The 2013-2014 NCAA Coaching Carousel - Page 13

JonInMiddleGA · 01-09-2014, 12:44 PM

If the rumors about Kiffy to Bama as the new OC come true, let's just go ahead and circle October 25, 2014 on the calendar:

Alabama at Tennessee

Likely to produce the largest noise in the history of Knoxville, perhaps in the history of the east coast.

BillJasper · 01-09-2014, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I don't think you should be worrying about Louisville's ability to get out of anything with Petrino (beyond likely having good lawyers, at the very least, they have the kind of money where the next move wouldn't be a concern) but by what would be left behind if/when he leaves. Your team and Arkansas were in complete shambles when he left, with players who could play in no other system. That plus Jurich went on record post-Petrino talking about how many players he brought in that they had to kick off the team for various reasons.

That being said, he obviously wins.

It just feels like Louisville sold their soul to the Devil when there were other options available.

Butter · 01-09-2014, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsline article

Petrino also went on to say that Louisville was where he wanted to finish his career, saying "emotionally I'm tied to doing that and contractually I'm tied to doing that."

Wow, I'm getting all choked up after reading that.

Logan · 01-09-2014, 12:57 PM

Franklin to PSU appears done.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-09-2014, 01:57 PM

Michigan hiring Nussmeier is huge. Not only getting a well respected coordinator who should put together a solid offense, but it finally is some good news to stop all the negativity surrounding the program. Frankly, this past season had been tough.

BillJasper · 01-09-2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Michigan hiring Nussmeier is huge. Not only getting a well respected coordinator who should put together a solid offense, but it finally is some good news to stop all the negativity surrounding the program. Frankly, this past season had been tough.

Plus, you have a built in replacement for Hoke should Michigan struggle again next year.

dawgfan · 01-09-2014, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Michigan hiring Nussmeier is huge. Not only getting a well respected coordinator who should put together a solid offense, but it finally is some good news to stop all the negativity surrounding the program. Frankly, this past season had been tough.

Nussmeier is a really good coach. I'm not sure exactly what prompted what appears to be a lateral move from Alabama, but it's good news for you guys. He's a terrific QB mentor, and I think he's got a really good mind for offense. The only downside with him is he's on the doorstep of getting good head coaching offers, so if he's a success there next year, there's a good chance he's one and done and off to a head coaching gig.

Kodos · 01-09-2014, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Frankly, this past season had been tough.

Try being a Hoosier football fan. The past couple of decades have been tough.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-09-2014, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Try being a Hoosier football fan. The past couple of decades have been tough.

I can't even imagine what that's like... Oh wait, I'm also a Detroit Lions fan. Guess I don't have to imagine.

Kodos · 01-09-2014, 05:37 PM

RomaGoth · 01-09-2014, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Nussmeier is a really good coach. I'm not sure exactly what prompted what appears to be a lateral move from Alabama, but it's good news for you guys. He's a terrific QB mentor, and I think he's got a really good mind for offense. The only downside with him is he's on the doorstep of getting good head coaching offers, so if he's a success there next year, there's a good chance he's one and done and off to a head coaching gig.

Perhaps he can take over for Hoke after he gets fired.

RomaGoth · 01-09-2014, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Plus, you have a built in replacement for Hoke should Michigan struggle again next year.

Didn't see this until after I posted essentially the same thing. I wonder if the Michigan AD is smart enough to have made this hire with this in mind...not sure about that but it could end up that way in any case.

RomaGoth · 01-09-2014, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsline article
Petrino also went on to say that Louisville was where he wanted to finish his career, saying "emotionally I'm tied to doing that and contractually I'm tied to doing that."

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Wow, I'm getting all choked up after reading that.

Same here. In fact, I feel like drowning my sorrows in some alcohol.

MrBug708 · 01-09-2014, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

If the rumors about Kiffy to Bama as the new OC come true, let's just go ahead and circle October 25, 2014 on the calendar:

Alabama at Tennessee

Likely to produce the largest noise in the history of Knoxville, perhaps in the history of the east coast.

Saban and Sexton throwing Kif a bone

BishopMVP · 01-09-2014, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Didn't see this until after I posted essentially the same thing. I wonder if the Michigan AD is smart enough to have made this hire with this in mind...not sure about that but it could end up that way in any case.

Has that ever worked where a school fired its head coach and promoted a current staff member? I know I advocated it for Auburn when Malzahn was OC and Chizik HC (and for once, I got one right!), but they didn't try to do it. I guess Oregon kind of did it for Chip Kelly, but that involved an older coach you could plausibly push into a "promotion" to AD.

britrock88 · 01-09-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

If the rumors about Kiffy to Bama as the new OC come true, let's just go ahead and circle October 25, 2014 on the calendar:

Alabama at Tennessee

Likely to produce the largest noise in the history of Knoxville, perhaps in the history of the east coast.

Why do they always schedule the Third Saturday in October on the fourth Saturday in October?

britrock88 · 01-09-2014, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Has that ever worked where a school fired its head coach and promoted a current staff member? I know I advocated it for Auburn when Malzahn was OC and Chizik HC (and for once, I got one right!), but they didn't try to do it. I guess Oregon kind of did it for Chip Kelly, but that involved an older coach you could plausibly push into a "promotion" to AD.

Bielema succeeded Alvarez at Wisconsin, as Alvarez retired and took the AD gig.

MrBug708 · 01-09-2014, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Has that ever worked where a school fired its head coach and promoted a current staff member? I know I advocated it for Auburn when Malzahn was OC and Chizik HC (and for once, I got one right!), but they didn't try to do it. I guess Oregon kind of did it for Chip Kelly, but that involved an older coach you could plausibly push into a "promotion" to AD.

Boise State

There are older instances with coaches

Matthean · 01-09-2014, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

I'm not sure exactly what prompted what appears to be a lateral move from Alabama

Kiffin shows up, and he might not have enjoyed that.

dawgfan · 01-10-2014, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Boise State

Who did Boise State fire?

MrBug708 · 01-10-2014, 02:00 AM

I missed the fired part

Breeze · 01-10-2014, 09:57 AM

Not a head coaching gig...but apparently Kevin Steele is going to Louisville as the DC...

BishopMVP · 01-10-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by britrock88

Bielema succeeded Alvarez at Wisconsin, as Alvarez retired and took the AD gig.

Yeah, we've seen it with an older coach that was willing to be pushed upstairs, but somehow I doubt Hoke wants to be an AD at this time (or that Michigan people want him to be). Barring some sort of off-field scandal I don't see any way you can fire the head coach and promote the assistant. Either Nussmeier does well enough that Hoke stays on or they're both looking for new jobs - even if the D is the real problem.

Lathum · 01-10-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Has that ever worked where a school fired its head coach and promoted a current staff member? I know I advocated it for Auburn when Malzahn was OC and Chizik HC (and for once, I got one right!), but they didn't try to do it. I guess Oregon kind of did it for Chip Kelly, but that involved an older coach you could plausibly push into a "promotion" to AD.

Ed O did pretty well when he took over for Kiffen at USC.

BishopMVP · 01-10-2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Ed O did pretty well when he took over for Kiffen at USC.

That's an in-season interim gig where you basically have to keep it within the current staff, and he didn't get the job in the end. But that probably is the closest scenario - a school like USC where drama thrives and you have coaches with outlandish personalities.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-10-2014, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by britrock88

Why do they always schedule the Third Saturday in October on the fourth Saturday in October?

Always a fun question

Prior to 1992 (and the introduction of divisions within the conference) the game was always the 3rd Saturday.

Since then it's happened only 6 times.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-10-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I missed the fired part

I almost did the same thing. I was about to name Ken Niumatalolo at Navy, who followed Paul Johnson (and actually has a slightly better winning percentage .620 to .609, which I didn't realize before looking it up)

digamma · 01-10-2014, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Has that ever worked where a school fired its head coach and promoted a current staff member? I know I advocated it for Auburn when Malzahn was OC and Chizik HC (and for once, I got one right!), but they didn't try to do it. I guess Oregon kind of did it for Chip Kelly, but that involved an older coach you could plausibly push into a "promotion" to AD.

Jimbo?

digamma · 01-10-2014, 11:46 AM

Oh, and Dabo.

digamma · 01-10-2014, 11:46 AM

So, you pretty much have to have an -o at the end of your name for it to work.

BishopMVP · 01-10-2014, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

Jimbo?

Bobby Bowden falls under the same category of old legend who "retired". Now, we can argue about how strongly he was encouraged to retire, but he at least acquiesced publicly to the transition and gave it his blessing, similar to Alvarez/Bellotti. (That may have worked at Michigan with Lloyd Carr if there was a good candidate on staff. But Hoke will need to be fired.)

Dabo works. What's interesting in his case is that he wasn't even OC - he was the WR coach (and recruiting coordinator), and his first move was to fire the OC who had technically been his boss the previous week.

digamma · 01-10-2014, 12:32 PM

I think the only question with Bowden's ouster was how long prior to his being forced out he was only acting as a puppet head coach. It was not a choice for him.

lungs · 01-10-2014, 12:40 PM

I never got the impression that Barry Alvarez was forced out or even gently pushed. He was the Athletic Director when he stepped down.

Matthean · 01-10-2014, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

even if the D is the real problem.

My hunch is Mattison will be gone soon enough. The defense had the least excuses and still ended up 67th in points against.

RomaGoth · 01-10-2014, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

My hunch is Mattison will be gone soon enough. The defense had the least excuses and still ended up 67th in points against.

This.

Kodos · 01-10-2014, 01:16 PM

Christmas finally comes!!!!! Mallory's defense was terrible and showed no signs of improving. Now, I have real hope for IU football once more. Curious to see who they will get to replace him. Would love to see us go after one of the top assistants from the Michigan State defensive staff.

Wilson Announces Coaching Staff Changes - Indiana University Official Athletic Site

Jan. 10, 2014

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. - Indiana head football coach Kevin Wilson announced Friday that defensive coordinator Doug Mallory and defensive line coach Jon Fabris will not return to the coaching staff for the 2014 season.

"Doug and Jon are solid coaches and good men," Wilson said. "We appreciate everything they have done for IU Football and wish them both the very best moving forward. We are excited about the future as we continue to build our program in a positive way."

JonInMiddleGA · 01-10-2014, 07:43 PM

Lane Kiffin hired as Alabama Crimson Tide offensive coordinator - ESPN

Matthean · 01-10-2014, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Lane Kiffin hired as Alabama Crimson Tide offensive coordinator - ESPN

I'm wait and see on this. For as much flack as he gets, I think it will benefit him not being the head coach. I'm still not sure what advantage he brings compared to Nussmeier who by all accounts did a rather good job.

Klinglerware · 01-10-2014, 08:28 PM

http://www.gazettenet.com/home/10154...d-coaching-job

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Whipple is reportedly the last candidate to interview. It is unclear how many candidates met with UMass officials on or off campus. Boston College defensive coordinator Don Brown and Louisville special teams coordinator Kenny Carter are believed to have been interviewed.

As of Friday evening, Whipple had not been offered the job, but was still believed to be the leading candidate.

Whipple and Brown are known quantities. I don't know much about Carter--does he have any New England ties or offer a comparative advantage?

Otherwise, I've read that UMass was also interested in Sean McDonnell but the interest wasn't mutual. Also Ambrose's contract extension seemingly puts an end to speculation over him.

tarcone · 01-10-2014, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Christmas finally comes!!!!! Mallory's defense was terrible and showed no signs of improving. Now, I have real hope for IU football once more. Curious to see who they will get to replace him. Would love to see us go after one of the top assistants from the Michigan State defensive staff.

Wilson Announces Coaching Staff Changes - Indiana University Official Athletic Site

Jan. 10, 2014

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. - Indiana head football coach Kevin Wilson announced Friday that defensive coordinator Doug Mallory and defensive line coach Jon Fabris will not return to the coaching staff for the 2014 season.

"Doug and Jon are solid coaches and good men," Wilson said. "We appreciate everything they have done for IU Football and wish them both the very best moving forward. We are excited about the future as we continue to build our program in a positive way."

I swear you say this (bolded) every offseason.

ISiddiqui · 01-10-2014, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Lane Kiffin hired as Alabama Crimson Tide offensive coordinator - ESPN

This has gotta be one of the greatest trolls in college football history.

Klinglerware · 01-11-2014, 12:01 AM

UMass hires Mark Whipple as football coach | Boston Herald

Whipple to UMass appears to be a done deal. But then again, we've been down this road before at BC and UConn--I'll believe it when we see him at the presser...

sterlingice · 01-11-2014, 10:14 AM

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I swear you say this (bolded) every offseason.

Hope springs eternal!

SI

Kodos · 01-11-2014, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

I swear you say this (bolded) every offseason.

Hope springs eternal. If Mallory had been allowed to stay, I would have been very unenthusiastic. I have been very unenthusiastic.

Look, Indiana has been a historically bad program. Under Wilson, they have improved every season. But the defense has been putrid and not improving. If we can combine even an adequate defense with a very good offense, more wins will come.

Don't you make similar comments about Iowa basketball?

JonInMiddleGA · 01-11-2014, 11:00 AM

Random trivia: the last Vandy coach to leave on his own accord for another job was 20 years ago, when Gerry DiNardo took over at LSU.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-11-2014, 11:04 AM

On the heels of Franklin's departure from Nashville I see where Mike Bobo's name is starting to pop up ... from UGA fans hoping & praying he goes elsewhere

tarcone · 01-11-2014, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Hope springs eternal. If Mallory had been allowed to stay, I would have been very unenthusiastic. I have been very unenthusiastic.

Look, Indiana has been a historically bad program. Under Wilson, they have improved every season. But the defense has been putrid and not improving. If we can combine even an adequate defense with a very good offense, more wins will come.

Don't you make similar comments about Iowa basketball?

And its finally here. We are back, baby!

CU Tiger · 01-11-2014, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

On the heels of Franklin's departure from Nashville I see where Mike Bobo's name is starting to pop up ... from UGA fans hoping & praying he goes elsewhere

Sounding like Chad Morris may have legs here. Kinda surprising hire but he'll be a good one for somebody soon.

CU Tiger · 01-12-2014, 09:30 AM

Dola
And a bigger deal than it may sound like at first glance, but DE coach Chris Rumph has left Alabama for the same gig with Texas.

Rumph is a good recruiter and relates well to players but rumor mill suggests Saban may have advised him to find another gig before he was unemployed.

CU Tiger · 01-13-2014, 07:16 AM

Taking over the thread?
Feel kinda dirty posting 3 in a row..

But sounds like the other shoe has now dropped and Ed Oregron has now agreed to be D-Line coach at Bama...

01-09-2014, 12:44 PM	#601
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	If the rumors about Kiffy to Bama as the new OC come true, let's just go ahead and circle October 25, 2014 on the calendar: Alabama at Tennessee Likely to produce the largest noise in the history of Knoxville, perhaps in the history of the east coast. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

01-09-2014, 05:37 PM	#610
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	__________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 01-09-2014 at 05:37 PM.

01-10-2014, 01:16 PM	#636
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Christmas finally comes!!!!! Mallory's defense was terrible and showed no signs of improving. Now, I have real hope for IU football once more. Curious to see who they will get to replace him. Would love to see us go after one of the top assistants from the Michigan State defensive staff. Wilson Announces Coaching Staff Changes - Indiana University Official Athletic Site Jan. 10, 2014 BLOOMINGTON, Ind. - Indiana head football coach Kevin Wilson announced Friday that defensive coordinator Doug Mallory and defensive line coach Jon Fabris will not return to the coaching staff for the 2014 season. "Doug and Jon are solid coaches and good men," Wilson said. "We appreciate everything they have done for IU Football and wish them both the very best moving forward. We are excited about the future as we continue to build our program in a positive way." __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

01-10-2014, 07:43 PM	#637
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Lane Kiffin hired as Alabama Crimson Tide offensive coordinator - ESPN __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

01-11-2014, 11:00 AM	#645
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Random trivia: the last Vandy coach to leave on his own accord for another job was 20 years ago, when Gerry DiNardo took over at LSU. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

01-09-2014, 12:57 PM	#604
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Franklin to PSU appears done.

01-09-2014, 01:57 PM	#605
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Michigan hiring Nussmeier is huge. Not only getting a well respected coordinator who should put together a solid offense, but it finally is some good news to stop all the negativity surrounding the program. Frankly, this past season had been tough.

01-10-2014, 02:00 AM	#621
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I missed the fired part

01-10-2014, 09:57 AM	#622
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Not a head coaching gig...but apparently Kevin Steele is going to Louisville as the DC...

01-10-2014, 11:46 AM	#629
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Oh, and Dabo.

01-10-2014, 11:46 AM	#630
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	So, you pretty much have to have an -o at the end of your name for it to work.

01-10-2014, 12:32 PM	#632
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	I think the only question with Bowden's ouster was how long prior to his being forced out he was only acting as a puppet head coach. It was not a choice for him.

01-10-2014, 12:40 PM	#633
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	I never got the impression that Barry Alvarez was forced out or even gently pushed. He was the Athletic Director when he stepped down.

01-11-2014, 12:01 AM	#642
Klinglerware College Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The DMV	UMass hires Mark Whipple as football coach \| Boston Herald Whipple to UMass appears to be a done deal. But then again, we've been down this road before at BC and UConn--I'll believe it when we see him at the presser...

01-11-2014, 11:04 AM	#646
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	On the heels of Franklin's departure from Nashville I see where Mike Bobo's name is starting to pop up ... from UGA fans hoping & praying he goes elsewhere __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

01-12-2014, 09:30 AM	#649
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	Dola And a bigger deal than it may sound like at first glance, but DE coach Chris Rumph has left Alabama for the same gig with Texas. Rumph is a good recruiter and relates well to players but rumor mill suggests Saban may have advised him to find another gig before he was unemployed.

01-13-2014, 07:16 AM	#650
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	Taking over the thread? Feel kinda dirty posting 3 in a row.. But sounds like the other shoe has now dropped and Ed Oregron has now agreed to be D-Line coach at Bama...

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