2020 NFL Offseason Thread?

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

dola to get away from COVID talk:

This might be the year that I get rid of Sunday Ticket. The two Saints/Panthers games will be televised here. And then the Saints have so many primetime and late window games that they will be on regular TV more often than not.

Not sure if it is worth $300+ for the few games that I wouldn't be able to see otherwise.

I did that a couple of years ago and I really haven't minded. The Eagles were just on so much, between prime time, games vs the Redskins, games which were shown anyway because either WAS already played or wasn't playing so they put the Eagles on because they are a divisional rival, etc. I saw plenty of their games.

Add to that being able to watch Ravens games or to hate-watch the Redskins, plus Sunday/Monday/Thursday, I was fine. The only time I got annoyed was when the only game available involved the Patriots.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I did that a couple of years ago and I really haven't minded. The Eagles were just on so much, between prime time, games vs the Redskins, games which were shown anyway because either WAS already played or wasn't playing so they put the Eagles on because they are a divisional rival, etc. I saw plenty of their games.

Add to that being able to watch Ravens games or to hate-watch the Redskins, plus Sunday/Monday/Thursday, I was fine. The only time I got annoyed was when the only game available involved the Patriots.

You wouldn't like living in CT then. Pats, Jets, Giants on all the time.

I'd love to see more Falcons games, but when they're not good, I don't get to see them more than a few times a season.

[thesloppy]

This seems like an opportune time to mention the NUMBER ONE BIG SECRET SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS & NETWORKS DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW: streaming unlicensed sporting events is technically not illegal, as you are not making a full, permanent copy of the content and you are not making that performance public.

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. Is it obvious?

[NobodyHere]

By streaming it aren't you making the performance public? Edited: Actually I guess that would on the streamer.

Disclaimer: I am a fan of extra toasted Cheeze-Its

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

The NFL makes so much money off the TV contracts that they will (IMO) play no matter what. They would take a hell of a hit if they can't sell tickets, but I think that they could survive.

Also, aren't most teams 100% season tickets? The teams already have the ticket money. Even if it isn't really safe to pack 70,000 people together, couldn't they just do it anyway, and if half the stadium is empty, they've still got the money.

I actually wonder if this will change the way people watch football. TBH I think it is pretty miserable to go to a game. Parking is a fortune, traffic, $20 beers, crowds, drunks, and you miss all the other games. My wife usually gets a suite for work once a year an I go then. When I lived in Seattle it wasn't too bad because we could use mass transit easily but in NY/NJ its a PITA and not worth it. I wonder if a lot of people who usually go to games will realize its a better experience from the couch.

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

dola to get away from COVID talk:

This might be the year that I get rid of Sunday Ticket. The two Saints/Panthers games will be televised here. And then the Saints have so many primetime and late window games that they will be on regular TV more often than not.

Not sure if it is worth $300+ for the few games that I wouldn't be able to see otherwise.

When I had direct TV I would usually call them and either threaten to cancel or sign another year contract and they would give it to me. I also got it for a few years by complaining about no PAC 12 network

[Lathum]

The Giants are so bad I watch Red Zone 90% of the time

[molson]

I love the NFL Rewind, I catch up on a game or two after midnight on Sunday or early Monday with liberal use of the DVR. I know that's not a preferred experience for most, but I very rarely watch sports live anyway unless I'm at a bar or something and then I'm not really paying attention.

[Kodos]

Yeah, watching sports live is an exercise in torture when you consider the volume of commercials. I much prefer to record, let the game get ahead, and then try to catch up to live near the end. Now that PS Vue is dead, that method is pretty much out the window. Hulu is not as friendly with allowing you to zip through commercials.

[thesloppy]

Dov Kleiman on Twitter: "I found the exact moment from last year when @RobGronkowski decided he wants to quit retirement and come back to the NFL.

https://t.co/Z7MxlR46OU"

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

By streaming it aren't you making the performance public? Edited: Actually I guess that would on the streamer.

Disclaimer: I am a fan of extra toasted Cheeze-Its

Disclaimer: I am too

[stevew]

The Rams wore those ridiculous mis-toned uniforms for 2 years so they could wait and unveil these FCS level uniforms. Shame

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by stevew

The Rams wore those ridiculous mis-toned uniforms for 2 years so they could wait and unveil these FCS level uniforms. Shame

Yeah, what a shit show. All of the uniforms suck ass. And the worst thing is how\why do you fuck up the horns?

[stevew]

Los Angeles Rams on Twitter: "🔥🔥🔥… "

[stevew]

The blue on blue look is horrid. Blue with gold pants is hard to mess up but the number looks dumb. White on white looks like a pro bowl jersey. Maybe use white horns with that set and it’s merely dumb instead of ridiculous. The horn logo on the helmets is probably the least objectionable thing in the setup

[albionmoonlight]

The Rams went from "These guys are going to win 30 Super Bowls with McVay and be the coolest team on the planet" to whatever the hell they are now in 2 years.

The uniform thing was so easy for them to not screw up. Just wear what you wore in 1984.

Or, if you want to go real retro, go 1968 Merlin Olsen style.

That's it. That's all you needed to do.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

whatever the hell they are now

lol

[QuikSand]

Honestly, when I get that misguided urge to play a "real NFL" eff-around career in FOF, that typically lasts about two seasons worth... I like to pick a team that just seems hopeless. Like Cincinnati or Miami or Jacksonville today, you know, a team that has a terrible foundation where I can come in and lay down the law and turn it all around.

A SuperBowl team from two seasons ago should not be on that list. But hell, they almost seem like one of those old SimCity scenario plays, where you were guaranteed to have a monster attack every so often. "Okay, challenge FOF career. Here, try to run a competitive football team, but twice or more a season your front office will make a horrible trade, or commit to a crippling and miserable contract. Go!"

[Warhammer]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

The Rams went from "These guys are going to win 30 Super Bowls with McVay and be the coolest team on the planet" to whatever the hell they are now in 2 years.

The uniform thing was so easy for them to not screw up. Just wear what you wore in 1984.

Or, if you want to go real retro, go 1968 Merlin Olsen style.

That's it. That's all you needed to do.

Its amazing what a difference a contrasting color on the collars would do, or even some stripes on the socks. It is like they were going for a color rush uniform and didn't go all the way. At least they didn't mess with the helmets, oh hell, they did...

As a fan, their front office is clueless.

It is incredible to me to think they were a missed last second FG against the Seahawks and a non-botched rookie assignment against the 49ers from making the playoffs last year, and seeing how there is now so much doom and gloom around the franchise.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Honestly, when I get that misguided urge to play a "real NFL" eff-around career in FOF, that typically lasts about two seasons worth... I like to pick a team that just seems hopeless. Like Cincinnati or Miami or Jacksonville today, you know, a team that has a terrible foundation where I can come in and lay down the law and turn it all around.

A SuperBowl team from two seasons ago should not be on that list. But hell, they almost seem like one of those old SimCity scenario plays, where you were guaranteed to have a monster attack every so often. "Okay, challenge FOF career. Here, try to run a competitive football team, but twice or more a season your front office will make a horrible trade, or commit to a crippling and miserable contract. Go!"

FOF Challenge Idea:

You play an SP career. And at some regularly occurring point, you get a FOF-savvy friend to come in as the "owner" and make one horrible front office move for you.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

FOF Challenge Idea:

You play an SP career. And at some regularly occurring point, you get a FOF-savvy friend to come in as the "owner" and make one horrible front office move for you.

Heh. Long long ago, the first (I think) edition of the GroupThink exercise (several of us on this forum dividing roles and jointly running a FOF franchise) included me nominally in the role of Team Owner, and I did a bit of that. I recall playing an Al Davis card and saying that we HAD to go out and sign the low-ratings scrub QB who by happenstance had been the Bowl MVP the season before our challenge started. Good times.

Wyoming Wildfire, baby. (Even though I wanted a Cheyenne Cutthroat Trout tbh) There's even a still-active user account styled after a player from that career, if I'm not mixing up my ages-ago references.

(Exercise for the reader: does anyone know what FOFCer is named for a player from a long-ago multi-person career?)

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

A SuperBowl team from two seasons ago should not be on that list. But hell, they almost seem like one of those old SimCity scenario plays, where you were guaranteed to have a monster attack every so often.

Ah, memories

SI

[tarcone]

You know who owns the Rams, right? Enos buries every sports team he owns. He just wants the land that the stadiums are built on. That is the investment, not the team.

[sabotai]

NFL's Deandre Baker & Quinton Dunbar Accused Of Armed Robbery, Warrants Issued

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa da fuck?

[RendeR]

idjits

[albionmoonlight]

Two thoughts:

1. How did they expect to get away with it? People knew them personally. They weren't robbing strangers.

2. I wonder if we might see a few more stories like this this offseason because of the lack of offseason programs, etc.. Less structure might not be good for some guys.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

(Exercise for the reader: does anyone know what FOFCer is named for a player from a long-ago multi-person career?)

I finally looked it up out of curiosity. That's really neat.

[Lathum]

I have to wonder if this robbery is one of those situations of guys stealing back their own stuff.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I have to wonder if this robbery is one of those situations of guys stealing back their own stuff.

That worked out well for OJ.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Two thoughts:

1. How did they expect to get away with it? People knew them personally. They weren't robbing strangers.

2. I wonder if we might see a few more stories like this this offseason because of the lack of offseason programs, etc.. Less structure might not be good for some guys.

1. The players expected their victims to act in a similar manner as the players did when they were robbed. I would bet the players can identify who robbed them. The rules of the game say you don't go to the police you handle things yourself.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

1. The players expected their victims to act in a similar manner as the players did when they were robbed. I would bet the players can identify who robbed them. The rules of the game say you don't go to the police you handle things yourself.

That makes sense. It's still pretty stupid/risky. But it's a least a plan.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

1. The players expected their victims to act in a similar manner as the players did when they were robbed. I would bet the players can identify who robbed them. The rules of the game say you don't go to the police you handle things yourself.

According to the article the players lost their stuff due to gambling, not robbed at gunpoint like they allegedly perpetrated. Not sure if "similar manner" applies here.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

According to the article the players lost their stuff due to gambling, not robbed at gunpoint like they allegedly perpetrated. Not sure if "similar manner" applies here.

One witness told cops they had met Baker and Dunbar at a party a few days earlier in Miami -- at which the NFL players had "lost" around $70,000.

Our sources tell us the men had "lost" the money in high-stakes card games and other forms of gambling.

Emphasis is mine.

Ummm, what is the best way to put this?

"Local sources" familiar with the first party have told me that there are reasons why the word lost is in quotation marks in this article.

YMMV

[NobodyHere]

NFL to propose Rooney Rule change that includes draft-pick incentives for minority hiring, per report - CBSSports.com

Seriously? So NFL owners are basically admitting that they are so racist that they need extra draft picks to hire minorities?

[JPhillips]

wait did Tom Brady split his pants pic.twitter.com/eti68iLO9g

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) May 24, 2020

[albionmoonlight]

I did not have Josh Allen pegged as the woke liberal in the Bills QB room. But 2020 is weird:

Bills QB Jake Fromm is Trending After Alleged Text Messages of Him Saying Only "Elite White People" Should Own Guns are Posted on Social Media; His Reps Have Hung Up on People Asking if That's How He Truly Feels (Leaked Text Messages) https://t.co/r1oCfb0js1 pic.twitter.com/Ui7rvDCiop

— Robert Littal (@BSO) June 4, 2020

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I did not have Josh Allen pegged as the woke liberal in the Bills QB room. But 2020 is weird:

Can I be angry and not surprised at the same time?

[AlexB]

A few training camps will be extra-interesting this year.

[thesloppy]

I will put this here, rather than the other thread:



Cold blooded.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Heh. Long long ago, the first (I think) edition of the GroupThink exercise (several of us on this forum dividing roles and jointly running a FOF franchise) included me nominally in the role of Team Owner, and I did a bit of that. I recall playing an Al Davis card and saying that we HAD to go out and sign the low-ratings scrub QB who by happenstance had been the Bowl MVP the season before our challenge started. Good times.

Wyoming Wildfire, baby. (Even though I wanted a Cheyenne Cutthroat Trout tbh) There's even a still-active user account styled after a player from that career, if I'm not mixing up my ages-ago references.

(Exercise for the reader: does anyone know what FOFCer is named for a player from a long-ago multi-person career?)

Okay, non-requested spoiler. The total bum SuperBowl MVP QB from some team who was a must-sign by the fledgling Wyoming Wildfire was... Julio Riddols.

[cuervo72]

Oh right, I forgot to answer. Knew that, even though it predated me.

[thesloppy]

Of course Trump comes out in vocal support for Brees, long after Brees has apologized.

I am reminded again of those heady days, like two weeks ago, when Trump was going to court the black vote. So far so good.

[miami_fan]

We, the NFL, condemn racism and the systematic oppression of Black People. We, the NFL, admit we were wrong for not listening to NFL players earlier and encourage all to speak out and peacefully protest. We, the NFL, believe Black Lives Matter. #InspireChange pic.twitter.com/ENWQP8A0sv

— NFL (@NFL) June 5, 2020

Who is "we", Rog?

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Who is "we", Rog?

Heh, when you put it that way, it really doesn't sound so good.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

Heh, when you put it that way, it really doesn't sound so goo.

Uncomfortable conversations my friend

[albionmoonlight]

The NFL does not blow its nose without seeing how it will play with the public.

I wonder what their internal numbers are showing them.

[miami_fan]

The cynic in me says the owners threw this out there now so that it can be referred to by the owners when they have to get back in front of the press. Then, they will direct all questions that will come about Kapernick, protests on the field, etc. to their GMs and coaching staffs because it would be irresponsible for the owners to get involved with on field football decisions.

[rjolley]

They put that out there because the players put out their version earlier. Otherwise, I don't think you get a statement like that from the league.

[kingfc22]

I don’t even know which thread to put this anymore as they are blending together but Drew Brees on Instagram this evening to Trump:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBE4y_9H...d=e6jf1k8ijvbg

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by rjolley

They put that out there because the players put out their version earlier. Otherwise, I don't think you get a statement like that from the league.

The statement was almost word for word what the players video wanted them to say. Including "We, the NFL..."

[albionmoonlight]

Football fans, be honest.

Did you know this story about D’Brickashaw Ferguson? This is wild. pic.twitter.com/weFvXDtUvg

— Kyle Brandt (@KyleBrandt) June 8, 2020