WW LXXXVII Terror at the University :Game over, Wolves win! - Page 13

hoopsguy · 01-12-2009, 03:30 PM

So, looking back over the first couple of days:
- really, really screwed the pooch on D1 vote. I do not think Jackal was around near the deadline, was he? Man, wish that we could have gotten some movement on votes to change that vote. I think EF would have had fun gloating on D2 right up to the Nightfall.
- I'm glad I didn't waste a lot of effort earlier today trying to create momentum around a Barkeep vote. Definitely a bummer that he was the first scan target, though. He has kept an extremely low profile in this game and I think we could have made hay with this later in the game.
- I'm glad to see some conversation around putting pressure/votes on the low participation players. I'm not telling if this is a good strategy or not for this particular game, but I think it is a winning play overall. It is good to have opponents who are actively (not just passively) competing against you and it makes the game more fun to have actual conversations in the thread.
- I've been impressed by the play of a couple of people this game, but it would kind of be telling for me to call them out at this point.

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I knew you wouldn't think I was a villager for long.

Anyhow, why would I be a wolf and post this and say that Jackal, the friggin Seer, can verify it?

I wasn't going to post it today. My initial plan was to let RPI answer about it in PM, but if people are going to start digging into RPI I thought it best to say it now.

just laying out possibilities man... chil!!!! we do need jackyl to corobroate tho.

jeheinz72 · 01-12-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

I'm leaning towards B and C there. That's what sprung to mind with me. Heh, that's a fair amount of information there actually.

Yeah, my guess was B.

Then maybe A since Lathum is tricky like that.

I really didn't want to post this, but RPI's only sent maybe 3 PM's all game and he's been brought up enough to warrant it's inclusion.

Still, I'm not voting for him until he at least explains himself (or has a chance to).

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Yeah, my guess was B.

Then maybe A since Lathum is tricky like that.

I really didn't want to post this, but RPI's only sent maybe 3 PM's all game and he's been brought up enough to warrant it's inclusion.

Still, I'm not voting for him until he at least explains himself (or has a chance to).

i think if lathum says its a simple game it probably is.. its usually a noive GM move to include rolls and not tell people about them...

hoopsguy · 01-12-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter

hmm. interesting.... some possible evidence on RPI... plus a RendeR meltdown...... this has possibilities people!

Indeed. Let me live one more day and then we can all PM RendeR at the deadline to tell him to read the thread. A good time would be had by all.

Well, Telle lives with him so it would either be extremely high comedy or not good at all for her, depending on her perspective. But everyone else would be amused by this, right?

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 03:33 PM

right!

jeff061 · 01-12-2009, 03:36 PM

Yeah, I would be pretty upset if there are hidden roles or anything not defined in the rules. That's how I'm working on.

Now will someone else please agree with me on gaining us a another night with a seer? Or prove me wrong either way... Don't stay quiet because it's easy.

I hope it's not lost on people that Hoops, the admitted wolf, is who put the nightfall movement in place today.

jeheinz72 · 01-12-2009, 03:37 PM

if not now, when praytell do we actually kill hoops then?

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 03:40 PM

i think there is a benefit if we knew something... but we dont! lets just get him out fo the way, and move on from there!

jeff061 · 01-12-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

if not now, when praytell do we actually kill hoops then?

Tomorrow, absolutely without question.

jeff061 · 01-12-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter

i think there is a benefit if we knew something... but we dont! lets just get him out fo the way, and move on from there!

We aren't going to know anymore tomorrow. Unless we get another seer view...

hoopsguy · 01-12-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Game will be vanilla WW with no real twists.

Here is what our moderator has to say on the topic.

But don't mind me, I'm just here to sow confusion.

The Jackal · 01-12-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Well if you're going down that road, then I think I should share what I know on RPI.

Basically, Day One, RPI PM's Jackal and I and says that he has a special role and wanted feedback on it from us. But didn't know what info to give up or if he should post in the thread about it. I then replied, well you might as well tell us now, since you've spilled the beans. THen you better pray we're both villagers. Then he never mentions it again.

Later, once Danny revealed as the BG and JE was dead as the President, I PM'd again, saying, I presume you're the Seer, you may want to tell us you're scans so they don't die with you. At that point, I figured that if Jackal was a wolf, he'd have night-killed RPI.

So now, here we are and either

A) RPI has some sort of unlisted role
B) RPI's role is the janitor and he didn't realize that he's not really a good guy
C) RPI made it up as a wolf
D) RPI made it up as a villager (why the hell he'd do this, is beyond me)

Jackal can confirm all this

Yessir.

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 03:55 PM

Jackyl... so which choice do you think? and why did you not then scan RPI?

jeheinz72 · 01-12-2009, 03:56 PM

It wasn't clear which role RPI was alluding to until JE died Night 2

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

It wasn't clear which role RPI was alluding to until JE died Night 2

oh so you thought he might have been a good roll then? CArry on.

The Jackal · 01-12-2009, 03:57 PM

I'm certainly leaning towards C.

The Jackal · 01-12-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter

Jackyl... so which choice do you think? and why did you not then scan RPI?

I made the BK scan choice in a rush, because I had thought the night deadline was at 10 PM when it was at 7, and Lathum let my order be a little late, and since I rushed to make a decision I just looked at the voting and picked someone who had voted for me early, and completely forgot about the message. Plus I wanted to know if he was a wolf or not.

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 03:58 PM

so why do you think he didnt just bumble as the Janitor? that is more plausible..... (not saying I have any evidence... )

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

I made the BK scan choice in a rush, because I had thought the night deadline was at 10 PM when it was at 7, and Lathum let my order be a little late, and since I rushed to make a decision I just looked at the voting and picked someone who had voted for me early, and completely forgot about the message. Plus I wanted to know if he was a wolf or not.

ok.... that's certainly a valid reason!

The Jackal · 01-12-2009, 03:59 PM

He may have done that, but I think C is more likely.

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 03:59 PM

just off of gut feeling?

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 04:00 PM

assuming you survive the night... who will you be scanning? is there a reason to not share that info?

Barkeep49 · 01-12-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

- I'm glad to see some conversation around putting pressure/votes on the low participation players. I'm not telling if this is a good strategy or not for this particular game, but I think it is a winning play overall. It is good to have opponents who are actively (not just passively) competing against you and it makes the game more fun to have actual conversations in the thread.

I 100% agree with this. About the only thing out of his wolfy mouth I agree with.

hoopsguy · 01-12-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter

assuming you survive the night... who will you be scanning? is there a reason to not share that info?

Jackal should scan me again just to be sure.

Barkeep49 · 01-12-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter

assuming you survive the night... who will you be scanning? is there a reason to not share that info?

Yes. The wolves could kill that person.

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 04:04 PM

dont you think they will go ahead and you know try to kill jackyl?

hoopsguy · 01-12-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I 100% agree with this. About the only thing out of his wolfy mouth I agree with.

If you re-read my posts later you'll see more that you should have agreed with, I bet.

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 04:04 PM

but we have a BG... so we might get a block..... hmm. ok

The Jackal · 01-12-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter

assuming you survive the night... who will you be scanning? is there a reason to not share that info?

I'm not sure yet, but I have a conditional in if nightfall goes. I don't really see a reason to share it.

hoopsguy · 01-12-2009, 04:06 PM

Jackal, please PM me with that info.

K, thx.

DaddyTorgo · 01-12-2009, 04:08 PM

as far as RPI - that's some interesting information. I'm leaning towards B or C for certain. I think after we get rid of our furry-Illinoisian we turn our eyes toward RPI and he's probably the most likely target for tomorrow then

DaddyTorgo · 01-12-2009, 04:08 PM

hoopsie - stop being a PITA before we put a silver bullet in your head

Lathum · 01-12-2009, 04:09 PM

No nightfall, I have class until about 8:30 anyway.

There are no hidden roles/ mechanics except one.

That is I forgot to mention Eaglefan is a hermaphordite slut who actualy drown in his/her own pus from ghonorea sores.

Carry on.

hoopsguy · 01-12-2009, 04:10 PM

that is common knowledge about eagles fans, not hidden at all

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 04:11 PM

ic ic, good to know!

jeheinz72 · 01-12-2009, 04:12 PM

So there is one hidden thing. That could be what RPI meant.

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 04:13 PM

I think the hidden thing is about EF being a hermafrodite

jeheinz72 · 01-12-2009, 04:15 PM

oh ok, I get it now.

Barkeep49 · 01-12-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter

I think the hidden thing is about EF being a hermafrodite

I'm sure. Lathum is upset that his Giants lost to the Iggles.

Barkeep49 · 01-12-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

as far as RPI - that's some interesting information. I'm leaning towards B or C for certain. I think after we get rid of our furry-Illinoisian we turn our eyes toward RPI and he's probably the most likely target for tomorrow then

Can we stop using letters and state the scenario we see likely? So personally I think at this point we're looking at a high likelihood of RPI having slipped with the Janitor role more than anything.

jeff061 · 01-12-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

as far as RPI - that's some interesting information. I'm leaning towards B or C for certain. I think after we get rid of our furry-Illinoisian we turn our eyes toward RPI and he's probably the most likely target for tomorrow then

Or we could have Hoops tomorrow, RIP today and accomplish the same, but with an additional see.

Sorry, I'm almost assuming Hoops is the Brutal at this point. Maybe it's my cynicism.

Barkeep49 · 01-12-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

Or we could have Hoops tomorrow, RIP today and accomplish the same, but with an additional see.

Sorry, I'm almost assuming Hoops is the Brutal at this point. Maybe it's my cynicism.

I think presuming hoops to be the brutal is a good one. I'm just trying to game out the conclusion of this and am not sure. Am further not sure that any sort of candidate could emerge in time to swing the vote, even if moving off of hoops is the correct move there.

jeff061 · 01-12-2009, 04:19 PM

Well RPI, too me, seems as certain as you are going to get without a direct reveal.

hoopsguy · 01-12-2009, 04:20 PM

Don't think to hard, boys.

hoopsguy · 01-12-2009, 04:20 PM

Damn no editing.

Don't think too hard, boys.

DaddyTorgo · 01-12-2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Damn no editing.

Don't think too hard, boys.

bite me wolf-man

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 04:56 PM

I assume he is eating the chicken now....

hoopsguy · 01-12-2009, 05:18 PM

K, meant what I said earlier about being under the weather. I'm not sure how much more I'll be around between now and deadline. If you have any really interesting last minute questions post them and I'll try to get on one more time before deadline, assuming family (in another couple of hours) + medication (now) don't keep me away.

Hannibal Lecter · 01-12-2009, 05:21 PM

Why do wolves kill innocent villegars?

01-12-2009, 03:36 PM	#607
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Yeah, I would be pretty upset if there are hidden roles or anything not defined in the rules. That's how I'm working on. Now will someone else please agree with me on gaining us a another night with a seer? Or prove me wrong either way... Don't stay quiet because it's easy. I hope it's not lost on people that Hoops, the admitted wolf, is who put the nightfall movement in place today. __________________

01-12-2009, 04:09 PM	#634
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	No nightfall, I have class until about 8:30 anyway. There are no hidden roles/ mechanics except one. That is I forgot to mention Eaglefan is a hermaphordite slut who actualy drown in his/her own pus from ghonorea sores. Carry on. Last edited by Lathum : 01-12-2009 at 04:19 PM.

01-12-2009, 04:19 PM	#644
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Well RPI, too me, seems as certain as you are going to get without a direct reveal. __________________

01-12-2009, 03:30 PM	#601
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	So, looking back over the first couple of days: - really, really screwed the pooch on D1 vote. I do not think Jackal was around near the deadline, was he? Man, wish that we could have gotten some movement on votes to change that vote. I think EF would have had fun gloating on D2 right up to the Nightfall. - I'm glad I didn't waste a lot of effort earlier today trying to create momentum around a Barkeep vote. Definitely a bummer that he was the first scan target, though. He has kept an extremely low profile in this game and I think we could have made hay with this later in the game. - I'm glad to see some conversation around putting pressure/votes on the low participation players. I'm not telling if this is a good strategy or not for this particular game, but I think it is a winning play overall. It is good to have opponents who are actively (not just passively) competing against you and it makes the game more fun to have actual conversations in the thread. - I've been impressed by the play of a couple of people this game, but it would kind of be telling for me to call them out at this point.

01-12-2009, 03:33 PM	#606
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	right!

01-12-2009, 03:40 PM	#609
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	i think there is a benefit if we knew something... but we dont! lets just get him out fo the way, and move on from there!

01-12-2009, 03:55 PM	#614
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	Jackyl... so which choice do you think? and why did you not then scan RPI?

01-12-2009, 03:57 PM	#617
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm certainly leaning towards C.

01-12-2009, 03:58 PM	#619
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	so why do you think he didnt just bumble as the Janitor? that is more plausible..... (not saying I have any evidence... )

01-12-2009, 03:59 PM	#621
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	He may have done that, but I think C is more likely.

01-12-2009, 03:59 PM	#622
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	just off of gut feeling?

01-12-2009, 04:00 PM	#623
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	assuming you survive the night... who will you be scanning? is there a reason to not share that info?

01-12-2009, 04:04 PM	#627
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	dont you think they will go ahead and you know try to kill jackyl?

01-12-2009, 04:04 PM	#629
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	but we have a BG... so we might get a block..... hmm. ok

01-12-2009, 04:06 PM	#631
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Jackal, please PM me with that info. K, thx.

01-12-2009, 04:08 PM	#632
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	as far as RPI - that's some interesting information. I'm leaning towards B or C for certain. I think after we get rid of our furry-Illinoisian we turn our eyes toward RPI and he's probably the most likely target for tomorrow then

01-12-2009, 04:08 PM	#633
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	hoopsie - stop being a PITA before we put a silver bullet in your head

01-12-2009, 04:10 PM	#635
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	that is common knowledge about eagles fans, not hidden at all

01-12-2009, 04:11 PM	#636
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	ic ic, good to know!

01-12-2009, 04:13 PM	#638
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	I think the hidden thing is about EF being a hermafrodite

01-12-2009, 04:20 PM	#645
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Don't think to hard, boys.

01-12-2009, 04:20 PM	#646
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Damn no editing. Don't think too hard, boys.

01-12-2009, 04:56 PM	#648
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	I assume he is eating the chicken now....

01-12-2009, 05:18 PM	#649
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	K, meant what I said earlier about being under the weather. I'm not sure how much more I'll be around between now and deadline. If you have any really interesting last minute questions post them and I'll try to get on one more time before deadline, assuming family (in another couple of hours) + medication (now) don't keep me away.

01-12-2009, 05:21 PM	#650
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	Why do wolves kill innocent villegars?

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