2020 NFL Offseason Thread?

[miami_fan]

That is amazing!

[stevew]

I’m pretty sure that David Tepper just won by getting that stupid (“immovable “) Jerry Richardson statue removed forever.

[sabotai]

Giants' Aldrick Rosas Arrested For Hit-&-Run, Allegedly T-Boned Car And Ran

And tomorrow's headline, "NY Giants to try out several new kickers".

[Lathum]

Jesus what a cheap shot...

Here is video of Eagles’ TE Dallas Goedert being sucker-punched at the Zoo Bar in Aberdeen, S.D., via ⁦@SamStompy⁩. pic.twitter.com/2DeuvDy67s

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) June 21, 2020

[albionmoonlight]

I didn't see "Bar" for a second after "Zoo" and was really confused.

[BYU 14]

Holy shit, that was bad

[Lathum]

Cowboys-Steelers Hall of Fall Game called off; enshrinement ceremony postponed

[Thomkal]

Cam Newton signs 1 year deal with the Patriots.

[JPhillips]

Pats lose a third round pick in 2021 for sideline filming.

[Ksyrup]

The timing of Newton's signing was just coincidental to the announcement of the punishment, I'm sure.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Cam Newton signs 1 year deal with the Patriots.

Cam's a top-10 QB if he's healthy.

This could be the move of the offseason.

Both Cam and Belichick have a lot to prove. Cam wants one more mega deal. Belichick wants to prove he can win without Brady (which he already did with Matt Cassell, but that was a long time ago and no one seems to talk about it, which is honestly kind of weird considering how much we talk about the Patriots).

[albionmoonlight]

Chase Daniel has banked this for FIVE career starts. What a life. The American Dream. pic.twitter.com/Enj9Fum1OP

— Carrington Harrison (@cdotharrison) June 29, 2020

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Cam's a top-10 QB if he's healthy.

This could be the move of the offseason.

Both Cam and Belichick have a lot to prove. Cam wants one more mega deal. Belichick wants to prove he can win without Brady (which he already did with Matt Cassell, but that was a long time ago and no one seems to talk about it, which is honestly kind of weird considering how much we talk about the Patriots).

I don't think Cam's healthy, but there's plenty of evidence he (or the Panthers, but I think it was more on Cam) was hiding injuries & trying to play through them for years now, so I hope to be proven wrong! I still think it's just as likely Stidham is starting as Cam, but based off Scarnecchia's interview they were already planning to build back in parts of the offense that took advantage of Stidham's mobility vs Brady, so Newton isn't a stylistic deviation.

It really is crazy that a 31 year old former NFL MVP QB just signed a minsal deal where the incentives only go up to $7.5 million. If this happened in FOF we'd be saying the game was broken

[bhlloy]

Yeah, I can’t shake the feeling it would be a very Belichick thing to do to cut him before he ever sees the field for the Pats. Whether that’s because his shoulder is still completely shredded, he doesn’t fit the system after all or Bill’s coffee is cold one morning. I’m still thinking Stidham is the week one starter as planned and this is a zero risk roll of the dice.

[ISiddiqui]

The pressure is really strong on the Washington football team to change their name. FedEx, the sponsor of their stadium, has publicly asked for it, and Nike is refusing to sell their merch online.

So they have decided to thoroughly review the name (which people believe is a code that they've decided to change it):

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...198927360?s=19

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[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

It really is crazy that a 31 year old former NFL MVP QB just signed a minsal deal where the incentives only go up to $7.5 million. If this happened in FOF we'd be saying the game was broken

We wouldn't feel that way if he had a large ratings reduction from the injuries...

[stevew]

How much money could they get for changing the team name to “Washington Federal Express”. Let the fans have “redskins” on bootleg apparel you can ban from the stadium. Slightly redo the logos and put Washington’s profile instead of the Indian. Make bank.

[ISiddiqui]

FedEx probably wouldn't be a fan - they don't want to be tied that much to Snyder, lol. The USFL Washington Generals was a good name, I wonder if they can buy the rights.

Though if they did go with a generic Washington Federals, they could be nicknamed 'the Feds', which would be cool.

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[cuervo72]

The Federals were the USFL team - the patsies for the Harlem Globetrotters were the Generals.

[Warhammer]

It was the New Jersey Generals.

[ISiddiqui]

Oh that's right. Trump's team.

[molson]

D.C. Snyders.

[21C]

This was a page from 7 years ago with designs for a potential rebranding of the Redskins.
Presenting the winner of our Washington Redskins rebranding contest!

I like the name Pigskins with the ability to shorten it to the Skins or even Hogs.

[NobodyHere]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/sport...ntl/index.html

Are you fucking kidding me?

So beside the black anthem, will there a white, latino, asian, and somoa anthem playing too?

If the NFL does have a season this year I won't be watching it.

[ISiddiqui]

I find it incredible how many people have never heard of Lift Every Voice and Sing as the black national anthem. It's like y'all don't hang out with Black Church folk or something.

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[miked]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/sport...ntl/index.html

Are you fucking kidding me?

So beside the black anthem, will there a white, latino, asian, and somoa anthem playing too?

If the NFL does have a season this year I won't be watching it.

I love how what happens before a televised game that you likely do not see somehow dictates your enjoyment. It's like, man, they are putting black lives matters sign in the locker room, I'll never watch again. What if they start playing My Country Tis of Thee or This Land is Your Land? Will your aversion be similar?

[miked]

Also, the league is like 70% black, so, uhm...duh.

[albionmoonlight]

If D.C. becomes a state, they may rename it since we already have a Washington state. So I wouldn't focus too much on the alliteration with the W sound when coming up with a name.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by miked

I love how what happens before a televised game that you likely do not see somehow dictates your enjoyment. It's like, man, they are putting black lives matters sign in the locker room, I'll never watch again. What if they start playing My Country Tis of Thee or This Land is Your Land? Will your aversion be similar?

Progressing will not be costless for the NFL. For example, there was a local BBQ place out here with a lot of TVs that banned playing any NFL games a few years ago when Kapernick started protesting police brutality. These things really do happen.

On balance, I think that the NFL will gain and keep more fans by taking the progressive side on social justice issues as the decades go on. But there is a reason that the league has had to be reluctantly pulled in that direction. Because they are going to lose some long-time fans (who demographically have a lot of money to spend on things like the NFL) by doing it.

[miked]

I didn't mean it won't happen, I just question the sanity of people who judge whether or not a game is entertaining by what happens before you can even see it on TV.

[Kodos]

People like to get their panties in a bunch.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by miked

Also, the league is like 70% black, so, uhm...duh.

And probably 95% of the league, regardless of color, are Americans. That's their nationality. There is no black "National" anthem. Black is not a nation. The United States is a nation. Canada is a nation. All the countries in Africa are nations. You don't get a different national anthem based on what color your skin is.

It's absurd pandering at its finest.

edit: You want to play a song that is symbolic of supporting a cause at the beginning of a game, that's fine. Don't call it a national anthem, and don't put it on the same level as an actual national anthem.

[miked]

Yes, for people who complain about everyone being snowflakes and how stupid cancel culture is. Then "OMG they are doing something that has no impact on the game or anything but I'M DONE!"

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/sport...ntl/index.html

Are you fucking kidding me?

So beside the black anthem, will there a white, latino, asian, and somoa anthem playing too?

If the NFL does have a season this year I won't be watching it.

Bye, Felecia.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/sport...ntl/index.html

Are you fucking kidding me?

So beside the black anthem, will there a white, latino, asian, and somoa anthem playing too?

If the NFL does have a season this year I won't be watching it.

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

And probably 95% of the league, regardless of color, are Americans. That's their nationality. There is no black "National" anthem. Black is not a nation. The United States is a nation. Canada is a nation. All the countries in Africa are nations. You don't get a different national anthem based on what color your skin is.

It's absurd pandering at its finest.

edit: You want to play a song that is symbolic of supporting a cause at the beginning of a game, that's fine. Don't call it a national anthem, and don't put it on the same level as an actual national anthem.

First off, nobody is putting it on the level of the National Anthem and it is being played for 1 game before the National Anthem as a symbol of the struggle that is still going on in this country and should not be.

This song represents the resolve of Black America and their resolve to persevere. The designation as "Black National Anthem" is symbolic to that cause, which should not be so hard to understand. What you call pandering is merely an acknowledgement that work is not done and why it is so offensive to your sensibilities, when nobody is saying it should "replace" the National Anthem is mind boggling.

Maybe take a moment to put yourselves in someone else's shoes and allow a brief moment of dignity and acknowledgement. It won't destroy your way of life.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

And probably 95% of the league, regardless of color, are Americans. That's their nationality.

But do we treat them as such?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

It's absurd pandering at its finest.

So is playing the national anthem before sporting events.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Atocep

So is playing the national anthem before sporting events.

Only event that should have the national anthem is one with the national team. I'm all for the ending of the anthem before games. I get the idea of it during/immediately after wars, 4th of July, Memorial Day, Veteran's Day. But unless the United States is playing, it's not needed.

[cuervo72]

Washington Redspears

As good as anything else I've seen.

[ISiddiqui]

And probably 95% of the league, regardless of color, are Americans. That's their nationality. There is no black "National" anthem. Black is not a nation. The United States is a nation. Canada is a nation. All the countries in Africa are nations. You don't get a different national anthem based on what color your skin is.

This is some of the most ignorant shit I've ever heard. Lift Every Voice and Sing has been referred to as the Black National Anthem for over 100 years! Not to mention that countries and nations aren't the same thing. You've likely heard of the Seminole Nation or Cherokee Nation. The Arab Nation consists of 22 Arab speaking countries. The German Nation doesn't confine itself to the state of Germany (fwiw, this became an issue in the 1930s). Nations are groups of people. Countries are territories. Sometimes they overlap, but not always.

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[PilotMan]

This just came out. This discussion is nothing new.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

But do we treat them as such?

Nope.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Only event that should have the national anthem is one with the national team. I'm all for the ending of the anthem before games. I get the idea of it during/immediately after wars, 4th of July, Memorial Day, Veteran's Day. But unless the United States is playing, it's not needed.

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

This is some of the most ignorant shit I've ever heard. Lift Every Voice and Sing has been referred to as the Black National Anthem for over 100 years! Not to mention that countries and nations aren't the same thing. You've likely heard of the Seminole Nation or Cherokee Nation. The Arab Nation consists of 22 Arab speaking countries. The German Nation doesn't confine itself to the state of Germany (fwiw, this became an issue in the 1930s). Nations are groups of people. Countries are territories. Sometimes they overlap, but not always.

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Nope.

These are all excellent posts.


This country's national anthem is only the first couple stanzas of a ridiculously racist poem written by a compelte shitbag over 250 years ago.

The fact that anyone defends this song is absurd.

it represents everything wrong with this country from the beginning.

it needs to be replaced.

I also agree and fully support the ending of the singing/playing of the national anthem before sporting events that do NOT include some form of the American NATIONAL team.

Stop pandering to redneck flag waving hoo-haaas that think their ability to scream 'Murica" louder than anyone else makes them somehow superior.

nationalism like that leads to fascist states. And we're getting WAY too close to that lately.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by RendeR

This country's national anthem is only the first couple stanzas of a ridiculously racist poem written by a compelte shitbag over 250 years ago.

Quiet! If the MAGA Crowd ever gets to the

No refuge could save the hireling and slave'
From the terror of flight and the gloom of the grave

part then we will NEVER hear the end of them defending the song.

[Scarecrow]

EDIT: It's a 10 year EXTENSION, making it a 12 year contract.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

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EDIT: It's a 10 year EXTENSION, making it a 12 year contract.

It is going to be interesting to see how it is structured. I imagine there are roster bonus kicking in every so often. Can't imagine even half the contract is actually guaranteed.

[GrantDawg]

I don't know if this is what they did, but that is an interesting thought. The first half billion dollar contract?

Let’s say the #Chiefs built in a rider that ensures Mahomes makes 18% of the league cap each of the next 12 years. Let’s also assume the 2021 league cap remains at $198.2M, then increases $10M per year through 2031.

That would mean a 10 year $500M new money extension.

— Spotrac (@spotrac) July 6, 2020

[albionmoonlight]

That could be structured as a win/win.

Mahomes gets more guaranteed money than anyone in history by far.

But, assuming normal cap growth, he will be a bargain for the Chiefs for the second half of the deal.

Or, maybe they just made it a percentage of the cap, like some have suggested.

[bhlloy]

I need to see the analysis on when they could cut him and for how much but man... that’s a hell of a lot of money for a very long time to bet that he doesn’t get a bad shoulder or knee injury at any point in the next 4-5 years

[Scarecrow]

On my phone, so I can’t put up the image, but his contract (per over the cap):

Patrick Mahomes Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Salaries, Bonuses and Career Earnings | Over The Cap