2023 NFL Regular Season Thread - Page 14

SirFozzie · 10-08-2023, 03:55 PM

The opposite of loving the Patriots isn't hating the Patriots.

It's not caring about them.

They haven't really given folks a reason to care about them (Not just losing, but being BAD, Stupid and losing)

Thomkal · 10-08-2023, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Lots of New England fans already gone. I guess it’s what have you done for me lately.

TV gave up on them too-went to Steelers/Ravens game here

Thomkal · 10-08-2023, 04:09 PM

So got to see my bandwagon team the Lions play today against the Panthers. Glad I chose wisely. Go Lions

Brian Swartz · 10-08-2023, 04:11 PM

Stellar win for Detroit when you consider their injuries. Beats the snot out of last year's 'We should beat Carolina but how about we let them run for 400 yards instead' showing. Next two games @ Tampa Bay and @ Baltimore will be interesting. Expect to lose one, but as long as they don't lose both it's fine. Frankly they should win most of the rest of their schedule if they don't trip over their tails, that of course being an if of seismic proportions.

Atocep · 10-08-2023, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Stellar win for Detroit when you consider their injuries. Beats the snot out of last year's 'We should beat Carolina but how about we let them run for 400 yards instead' showing. Next two games @ Tampa Bay and @ Baltimore will be interesting. Expect to lose one, but as long as they don't lose both it's fine. Frankly they should win most of the rest of their schedule if they don't trip over their tails, that of course being an if of seismic proportions.

I don't see Mitch Trubisky on the schedule so you guys should be fine.

MIJB#19 · 10-08-2023, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

The fanbase of the loser of Saints/Pats this weekend is going to spiral down badly. Someone will come out of that game with a "We couldn't even beat them?" feeling.

Maybe it will be a 0-0 tie.

You were 50% spot on!

CrimsonFox · 10-08-2023, 07:18 PM

And again refs refuse to call penalties on the Chiefs in the last minutes of the game

CrimsonFox · 10-08-2023, 07:18 PM

Arizona Cards miss an extra point bahaha!

CrimsonFox · 10-08-2023, 07:19 PM

Good day for Chase fantasy owners!

Galaril · 10-08-2023, 07:29 PM

The Broncos LMFAO.
The Jets got revenge for Hacket on the Broncos Coach talking shit.

Ksyrup · 10-08-2023, 07:33 PM

I'm guessing Payton feeds Wilson to the Chiefs on Thursday and then Stidham takes over. This team is awful. Apparently they'll be looking to trade most of the decent pieces away, stock up on picks, and start from scratch.

larrymcg421 · 10-08-2023, 07:44 PM

Devon Achane has 460 yards rushing this season... on 38 carries.

JPhillips · 10-08-2023, 08:01 PM

I guess Jamarr is always fucking open.

Thomkal · 10-08-2023, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Good day for Chase fantasy owners!

Yes thank the Cards for not covering him all day

miami_fan · 10-08-2023, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

It won’t matter in 50 years, but Belichick is shitting on his legacy just so he can limp across the finish line and catch Shula

Are we sure he is going to catch George Halas? He needs 19 wins to move into second place before he can work on catching Shula.

I am kind of obsessed with NFL coaching staffs at the moment and the Patriots staff seems underwhelming. How does Belichick have not one but two sons on his staff? If Jerod Mayo is a possible heir to Belichick's job why is he sharing linebacker coaching duties with Steve Belichick? The staff is also small when compared to other staffs.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-08-2023, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

So got to see my bandwagon team the Lions play today against the Panthers. Glad I chose wisely. Go Lions

Very solid win. It’s the kind of win good teams have when they’re playing an 0-4 team with a rookie quarterback. We haven’t seen many games like that.

I hope you’re finding the bandwagon comfortable and to your liking. We’re happy to have you aboard!

Thomkal · 10-08-2023, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Very solid win. It’s the kind of win good teams have when they’re playing an 0-4 team with a rookie quarterback. We haven’t seen many games like that.

I hope you’re finding the bandwagon comfortable and to your liking. We’re happy to have you aboard!

No splinters so far

kingfc22 · 10-08-2023, 10:56 PM

Cowboys getting demolished. Just hate to see it.

CrimsonFox · 10-09-2023, 03:08 AM

Cowboys XRay Machine for MVP

CrimsonFox · 10-09-2023, 03:11 AM

Nice Foxy boxing near the end of 2nd quarter when 49er jabs a cowboy in the face. Just straight up punches him lol

CrimsonFox · 10-09-2023, 03:12 AM

see chiefs? it's possible to win games without the need to pay off the refs

tzach · 10-09-2023, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

The Broncos LMFAO.
The Jets got revenge for Hacket on the Broncos Coach talking shit.

jets and broncos was an horror movie for those that had the stomach to watch

CrimsonFox · 10-09-2023, 03:26 AM

man that 49ers team is SOOOOOOOOO good. both defenses were great but SF just have SOOOOOO many weapons...esp so many running weapons. If I had a fantasy team I'd pick up every SF back I could. They can run and screen pass all day long.

Monster day for Purdy

lol Picks all day long for Prescott. Wah wahhhhhhhh

flere-imsaho · 10-09-2023, 09:50 AM

Honolulu_Blue · 10-09-2023, 10:50 AM

Yeah, I think this debate is settled.

tzach · 10-09-2023, 11:10 AM

i think it's easier for a HOF QB to win without a HOF coach (let's say manning with kubiak/fox/caldwell, brady with arians) than the opposite (reid with mcnabb, belichick sans brady, rodgers with mccarthy).

Carman Bulldog · 10-09-2023, 11:19 AM

I could see the Lions losing a home playoff game to the Cowboys or the Seahawks (take the over). I think in those scenarios, the season could still be considered a success. A home playoff loss however to an NFC South team, or the Packers, would mean the season was still a failure.

JPhillips · 10-09-2023, 11:25 AM

You can't win consistently in the NFL without a good QB. I mean Zach Taylor is 26-20-1 with Joe Burrow and 3-19 without him.

albionmoonlight · 10-09-2023, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Yeah, I think this debate is settled.

Pats will bottom out and draft Caleb Williams who will drag Belichick to a Super Bowl.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-09-2023, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

I could see the Lions losing a home playoff game to the Cowboys or the Seahawks (take the over). I think in those scenarios, the season could still be considered a success. A home playoff loss however to an NFC South team, or the Packers, would mean the season was still a failure.

Yeah. While it's super early still, a home playoff game against Seattle or the Cowboys seems most likely at this point. The Lions could be the #3 seed behind the 49ers and Eagles. The Cowboys and the Seahawks seem the most likely candidates to be the top two wildcard teams.

Seattle has been Detroit's cryptonite the last three years - the Lions defense really struggles against Gino Smith and whatever Seattle does. The Cowboys are really good, but I think the Lions, at home, could be beat them.

Winning the NFC North for the first time (winning the NFC Central/North for the first time since 1993) and hosting a playoff game would be huge and a big step for the organization. There are many X-Factors to play out over the next 12-13 weeks, but it would be tough to lose that home playoff game. No shame, however, losing to the Eagles or 49ers on the road.

miami_fan · 10-09-2023, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tzach

i think it's easier for a HOF QB to win without a HOF coach (let's say manning with kubiak/fox/caldwell, brady with arians) than the opposite (reid with mcnabb, belichick sans brady, rodgers with mccarthy).

I think the list of HOF head coaches who did not coach HOF QBs include just Parcells and Gibbs. I think you can include George Allen and Steve Owen for HOFers at QB2.

bronconick · 10-09-2023, 01:31 PM

Emmanuel Moseley came back from a left Torn ACL last season week 5 and tore his right ACL after a few plays

Thomkal · 10-09-2023, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

Emmanuel Moseley came back from a left Torn ACL last season week 5 and tore his right ACL after a few plays

I saw when he got hurt and I was hoping it wasn't going to be anything major this time. Sad story.

Brian Swartz · 10-09-2023, 07:00 PM

On the Brady-Belichick thing, I've always thought it was weird for people to insist on making it 'either-or'. There's been a lot of discussions about things like how much good coaching helps a young quarterback develop (*cough* Tua *cough*), obviously it's important for them to have a certain amount of weapons to throw to and a line that's at least passable, etc.

It's not one or the other IMO, it's both. Any great dynasty needs both coaching and players. You don't get there without both elements.

Brian Swartz · 10-09-2023, 07:13 PM

On the Lions, I won't count it a success unless they win a playoff game. They were almost a playoff team last year; getting in and losing at the first hurdle isn't enough of a step up. If that happened I would call it a passable season, but not a successful one. They need to win one game. Not make the Super Bowl or anything, but they need to win one.

RainMaker · 10-09-2023, 07:16 PM

I think it's kind of silly to assume it was one or the other. Coaches over time sometimes just fall out of touch with the modern game.

I think the biggest issue with the Pats is that their talent evaluation is bad. They keep missing in the draft and this team should have way more talent when you consider they have a QB on a rookie deal. Maybe it's a situation where Bellichek takes a step back from that aspect.

molson · 10-09-2023, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

On the Brady-Belichick thing, I've always thought it was weird for people to insist on making it 'either-or'. There's been a lot of discussions about things like how much good coaching helps a young quarterback develop (*cough* Tua *cough*), obviously it's important for them to have a certain amount of weapons to throw to and a line that's at least passable, etc.

It's not one or the other IMO, it's both. Any great dynasty needs both coaching and players. You don't get there without both elements.

I just remember how much time I wasted on this board debating with people who insisted Brady was overrated and just a system QB, at least during the first part of the dynasty. Now he's almost universally beloved. That's kind of cool though, and weird.

GrantDawg · 10-09-2023, 07:29 PM

Not beloved in my house. Never. His name is used as a curse-word, or one to be spat upon.

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miami_fan · 10-09-2023, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I just remember how much time I wasted on this board debating with people who insisted Brady was overrated and just a system QB, at least during the first part of the dynasty. Now he's almost universally beloved. That's kind of cool though, and weird.

Now I need a five thousand word think piece on when exactly Brady went from overrated, to hated and finally to almost universally beloved. Finding out there was such a thing as Drunk Tom Brady after he was no longer under mean ol' Bill Belicheck's thumb is my guess for the point of almost universal love. Who doesn't like the drunk guy?

thesloppy · 10-09-2023, 09:03 PM

These Raiders stink

cuervo72 · 10-09-2023, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Not beloved in my house. Never. His name is used as a curse-word, or one to be spat upon.

Yes. GTFO with this "beloved" crap.

thesloppy · 10-09-2023, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy

These Raiders stink

I take back everything I said, baby.

Danny · 10-10-2023, 12:18 AM

Their defense is actually starting to play better but their offense stinks. Mcdaniels is a bad head coach.

RainMaker · 10-10-2023, 12:27 AM

I don't think either of those teams is very good.

Bobble · 10-10-2023, 09:16 AM

I hear a lot of (us) old-timers lament that young QBs these days don't get a chance to sit behind a veteran and learn the trade. Do we think that helped Love at all? I feel like that "waiting and learning" time is, like, 20% effective. As if Love was getting 20% of his experience points sitting behind Aaron. Not worth it.

albionmoonlight · 10-10-2023, 09:25 AM

There is some interesting cause and effect there, too.

Like, if Love had come into his first training camp and looked like a star, I imagine that the Packers would have traded Rodgers two years earlier.

The fact that he sat meant (IMO) that he wasn't blowing their socks off in camp.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-10-2023, 09:33 AM

The Lions currently have a 2 game lead in the NFC North!

Bobble · 10-10-2023, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

The Lions currently have a 2 game lead in the NFC North!

Feels weird, right?

Kodos · 10-10-2023, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Yes. GTFO with this "beloved" crap.

I'll say that I have to admit Brady was very talented and a fierce competitor. But I still think he is a douche who cares mainly about #12.

Ksyrup · 10-10-2023, 10:06 AM

Achane appears to be out multiple weeks, possibly headed to IR. As is Vikings WR Jefferson.

10-08-2023, 03:55 PM	#651
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The opposite of loving the Patriots isn't hating the Patriots. It's not caring about them. They haven't really given folks a reason to care about them (Not just losing, but being BAD, Stupid and losing) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-08-2023, 04:09 PM	#653
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	So got to see my bandwagon team the Lions play today against the Panthers. Glad I chose wisely. Go Lions __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

10-08-2023, 04:11 PM	#654
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Stellar win for Detroit when you consider their injuries. Beats the snot out of last year's 'We should beat Carolina but how about we let them run for 400 yards instead' showing. Next two games @ Tampa Bay and @ Baltimore will be interesting. Expect to lose one, but as long as they don't lose both it's fine. Frankly they should win most of the rest of their schedule if they don't trip over their tails, that of course being an if of seismic proportions. Last edited by Brian Swartz : 10-08-2023 at 04:12 PM.

10-08-2023, 07:33 PM	#661
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I'm guessing Payton feeds Wilson to the Chiefs on Thursday and then Stidham takes over. This team is awful. Apparently they'll be looking to trade most of the decent pieces away, stock up on picks, and start from scratch. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 10-08-2023 at 07:33 PM.

10-08-2023, 07:44 PM	#662
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Devon Achane has 460 yards rushing this season... on 38 carries. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

10-08-2023, 07:18 PM	#657
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	And again refs refuse to call penalties on the Chiefs in the last minutes of the game

10-08-2023, 07:18 PM	#658
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Arizona Cards miss an extra point bahaha!

10-08-2023, 07:19 PM	#659
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Good day for Chase fantasy owners!

10-08-2023, 07:29 PM	#660
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	The Broncos LMFAO. The Jets got revenge for Hacket on the Broncos Coach talking shit.

10-08-2023, 08:01 PM	#663
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I guess Jamarr is always fucking open. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

10-08-2023, 10:56 PM	#668
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Cowboys getting demolished. Just hate to see it. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-09-2023, 03:08 AM	#669
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Cowboys XRay Machine for MVP

10-09-2023, 03:11 AM	#670
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Nice Foxy boxing near the end of 2nd quarter when 49er jabs a cowboy in the face. Just straight up punches him lol Last edited by CrimsonFox : 10-09-2023 at 03:11 AM.

10-09-2023, 03:12 AM	#671
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	see chiefs? it's possible to win games without the need to pay off the refs

10-09-2023, 03:26 AM	#673
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	man that 49ers team is SOOOOOOOOO good. both defenses were great but SF just have SOOOOOO many weapons...esp so many running weapons. If I had a fantasy team I'd pick up every SF back I could. They can run and screen pass all day long. Monster day for Purdy lol Picks all day long for Prescott. Wah wahhhhhhhh

10-09-2023, 09:50 AM	#674
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland

10-09-2023, 10:50 AM	#675
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Yeah, I think this debate is settled. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

10-09-2023, 11:10 AM	#676
tzach High School JV Join Date: Mar 2015	i think it's easier for a HOF QB to win without a HOF coach (let's say manning with kubiak/fox/caldwell, brady with arians) than the opposite (reid with mcnabb, belichick sans brady, rodgers with mccarthy).

10-09-2023, 11:19 AM	#677
Carman Bulldog College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada	I could see the Lions losing a home playoff game to the Cowboys or the Seahawks (take the over). I think in those scenarios, the season could still be considered a success. A home playoff loss however to an NFC South team, or the Packers, would mean the season was still a failure.

10-09-2023, 11:25 AM	#678
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	You can't win consistently in the NFL without a good QB. I mean Zach Taylor is 26-20-1 with Joe Burrow and 3-19 without him. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

10-09-2023, 01:31 PM	#682
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Emmanuel Moseley came back from a left Torn ACL last season week 5 and tore his right ACL after a few plays

10-09-2023, 07:00 PM	#684
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	On the Brady-Belichick thing, I've always thought it was weird for people to insist on making it 'either-or'. There's been a lot of discussions about things like how much good coaching helps a young quarterback develop (cough Tua cough), obviously it's important for them to have a certain amount of weapons to throw to and a line that's at least passable, etc. It's not one or the other IMO, it's both. Any great dynasty needs both coaching and players. You don't get there without both elements.

10-09-2023, 07:13 PM	#685
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	On the Lions, I won't count it a success unless they win a playoff game. They were almost a playoff team last year; getting in and losing at the first hurdle isn't enough of a step up. If that happened I would call it a passable season, but not a successful one. They need to win one game. Not make the Super Bowl or anything, but they need to win one.

10-09-2023, 07:16 PM	#686
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I think it's kind of silly to assume it was one or the other. Coaches over time sometimes just fall out of touch with the modern game. I think the biggest issue with the Pats is that their talent evaluation is bad. They keep missing in the draft and this team should have way more talent when you consider they have a QB on a rookie deal. Maybe it's a situation where Bellichek takes a step back from that aspect.

10-09-2023, 07:29 PM	#688
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Not beloved in my house. Never. His name is used as a curse-word, or one to be spat upon. Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk

10-09-2023, 09:03 PM	#690
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	These Raiders stink __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

10-10-2023, 12:18 AM	#693
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Their defense is actually starting to play better but their offense stinks. Mcdaniels is a bad head coach.

10-10-2023, 12:27 AM	#694
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I don't think either of those teams is very good.

10-10-2023, 09:16 AM	#695
Bobble College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: High and outside	I hear a lot of (us) old-timers lament that young QBs these days don't get a chance to sit behind a veteran and learn the trade. Do we think that helped Love at all? I feel like that "waiting and learning" time is, like, 20% effective. As if Love was getting 20% of his experience points sitting behind Aaron. Not worth it.

10-10-2023, 09:25 AM	#696
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	There is some interesting cause and effect there, too. Like, if Love had come into his first training camp and looked like a star, I imagine that the Packers would have traded Rodgers two years earlier. The fact that he sat meant (IMO) that he wasn't blowing their socks off in camp.

10-10-2023, 09:33 AM	#697
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	The Lions currently have a 2 game lead in the NFC North! __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

10-10-2023, 10:06 AM	#700
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Achane appears to be out multiple weeks, possibly headed to IR. As is Vikings WR Jefferson. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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