Official 2023 College Football Thread

[tarcone]

Sad to say that I didnt miss Iowa playing all that much today..

[GrantDawg]

Sources -- Michigan staffer bought tickets for non-Big Ten games - ESPN

According to the source, the ticket was purchased across from the visiting sideline for a game against Ohio State. It's the fourth Ohio State-related game that ESPN has confirmed, three of which were in opposing stadiums where the tickets were purchased across from the visitor's sideline. The fourth was OSU's game against Penn State on Saturday, for which Stalions had purchased tickets across from both sidelines, according to sources. Michigan still must play both of those teams this season.

[bronconick]

UCLA turnover number 4. The game has not reached halftime. They are somehow winning.

[Thomkal]

Thought Coastal Carolina may have had a tough homecoming game tonight with McCall still out recovering from the late hit last week that sent him to the hospital (he's fine). But they didn't miss a step-and cruised to a win over Marshall 34-6, no doubt helped by the 4 INT they picked off.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Sports fandom builds character, that's really what I have to hope is true.

Today is the first time in 52 weeks that my child has had his primary three rooting interests all win a conference game on the same day. It's only the 3rd time it's happened since he arrived in Miami in 2021.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Sources -- Michigan staffer bought tickets for non-Big Ten games - ESPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQm2YXqkmAQ

[RainMaker]

Curious how long a rope he gets at Clemson. You win some national titles and are a powerhouse that long, it's tough to cut bait after a bad season or two.

On the other hand, it doesn't seem like they're recruiting nearly as well as they did in the recent past. And he doesn't seem keen on the transfer portal which puts them at a disadvantage.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Goodness gracious UNC is hot garbage.

[Ksyrup]

GT with 24 in the 2Q and 22 in the 4Q. Wow.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Could somebody sort me out about something?

I saw (in my social media) where UGA-Missouri will kickoff at 3p next week.
The way the person posted it I felt like that was just announced this morning.

Is that the norm now? That kickoff times are only set 6 days in advance?
I thought it was 13 days (i.e. two weeks basically)? Am I nuts? Did it change?

tldr version of why I care: I'm due to have out of state houseguests the following weekend (11/11) for UGA-Ole Miss, friends of Will's. That weekend is ALSO the first family reunion my dad's side has had in over 30 years ... on the opposite side of the friggin state from me basically. I've held out hope that I might be able to fulfill some hosting duties here AND at least make the 3+ hour drive for a reunion appearance ... but now apparently I ain't gonna know for another week?

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Could somebody sort me out about something?

I saw (in my social media) where UGA-Missouri will kickoff at 3p next week.
The way the person posted it I felt like that was just announced this morning.

Is that the norm now? That kickoff times are only set 6 days in advance?
I thought it was 13 days (i.e. two weeks basically)? Am I nuts? Did it change?

tldr version of why I care: I'm due to have out of state houseguests the following weekend (11/11) for UGA-Ole Miss, friends of Will's. That weekend is ALSO the first family reunion my dad's side has had in over 30 years ... on the opposite side of the friggin state from me basically. I've held out hope that I might be able to fulfill some hosting duties here AND at least make the 3+ hour drive for a reunion appearance ... but now apparently I ain't gonna know for another week?

Looks like that time was set last Monday, so it was 13 days.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Looks like that time was set last Monday, so it was 13 days.

Whew. Thanks. Restores some hope for me to sort it all out then.

No idea why some nitwit posted it this morning like it was f'n breaking news

[bob]

I don’t understand this GT team at all, but I’m ok if this lose one, win one thing continues given the remaining schedule.

[bronconick]

The Athletic
@TheAthletic
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Iowa's game vs. Northwestern on Saturday at Wrigley Field has an over/under set at 29.5.

It's the lowest over/under in history.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by bronconick

The Athletic
@TheAthletic
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2h
Iowa's game vs. Northwestern on Saturday at Wrigley Field has an over/under set at 29.5.

It's the lowest over/under in history.

Complimentary football

[Ksyrup]

The immovable force versus the stoppable object.

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by bronconick

The Athletic
@TheAthletic
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2h
Iowa's game vs. Northwestern on Saturday at Wrigley Field has an over/under set at 29.5.

It's the lowest over/under in history.

So far...

[GrantDawg]

Bad news, Jon. The SEC is flexing out the game time for UGA-Ole Miss to the 6 day window.

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[GrantDawg]

Brian Ferentz out as OC in Iowa.

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Bad news, Jon. The SEC is flexing out the game time for UGA-Ole Miss to the 6 day window.

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Well of fucking COURSE.

Thanks much.

[tarcone]

BF gets to finish the year. Im very happy.

He will take over the O line next year and hopefully we bring in a hot shot guy that KF rides into the sunset on.

[bob]

With last weeks results, not a single team in the Big Ten West is averaging the 25 ppg necessary to keep Brian Ferentz’s job.

[bob]

Originally Posted by bob

I don’t understand this GT team at all, but I’m ok if this lose one, win one thing continues given the remaining schedule.

More about the crazy GT season:

https://twitter.com/cfbkings/status/...OgBS0fstNAr3ww

[Swaggs]

Can anyone name the two active coaches that have more than 400 career games spent at the same school?

Hint - one has been entirely as a coach (in various capacities) and one has been a player, assistant, and head coach.

[tarcone]

Kirk Ferentz and I have no idea

[Swaggs]

Ferentz at Iowa and Mike Gundy at Okla St (he just hit it two weekends ago).

[RainMaker]

Dabo Swinney ripping into a fan who asks him why Clemson's paying him a huge salary just to go 4-4. "You're part of the problem." Also says to the fan, Tyler, "if you wanna apply for the job, go for it. And good luck to you" This is a lengthy, fiery answer here by Dabo

— Chapel Fowler (@chapelfowler) October 31, 2023

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Dabo Swinney ripping into a fan who asks him why Clemson's paying him a huge salary just to go 4-4. "You're part of the problem." Also says to the fan, Tyler, "if you wanna apply for the job, go for it. And good luck to you" This is a lengthy, fiery answer here by Dabo

— Chapel Fowler (@chapelfowler) October 31, 2023

Yeah, he's gonna be working elsewhere within just over a year. He's not going to suddenly, magically, figure out how to coach, remember how to hire, or how to manage the portal era. And without those things, mediocrity is assured.

The fanbase is gonna turn so hard that the administration won't have a choice.

[RainMaker]

His answer is 5 minutes long and worth a laugh. He sounded so flustered by a relatively benign question.

[Swaggs]

I don’t like Dabo, at all, but who is Clemson going to get that will be an upgrade? He’s one of two coaches, all-time, with twelve straight seasons of 10+ wins (Bowden and Saban are the others) and had multiple national championships. Literally went undefeated in conference and to the Orange Bowl just last season. He’s missed on his last few QBs, but had 45 wins over the past four seasons before coming back to earth this year. He is being childish with his comments to fans, but he’s not wrong

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

He is being childish with his comments to fans, but he’s not wrong

Lack of humility when you're being regularly humbled doesn't usually bode well.

[RainMaker]

Don't know if it's legit or not but why not have some fun with this story.

Well, well, well…

Is that Connor Stalions wearing CMU gear, on the CMU sidelines as they opened their season up against Michigan State? pic.twitter.com/Bxl8Bzeail

— AthletesInSpace (@AthletesInSpace) October 31, 2023

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I don’t like Dabo, at all, but who is Clemson going to get that will be an upgrade? He’s one of two coaches, all-time, with twelve straight seasons of 10+ wins (Bowden and Saban are the others) and had multiple national championships. Literally went undefeated in conference and to the Orange Bowl just last season. He’s missed on his last few QBs, but had 45 wins over the past four seasons before coming back to earth this year. He is being childish with his comments to fans, but he’s not wrong

I think it depends on how far you think the program will fall. He's not a great X's and O's guy and lost his top assistants. The program isn't recruiting at the level it was a few years ago. And they're completely neglecting the transfer portal which puts them at a massive disadvantage. So it's not like this is just some bad luck or a tough stretch of games.

No doubt Dabo was a successful coach. Maybe he still will be. But the game has changed and the program is trending toward mediocrity. $11.5 million should buy you more than that.

[Swaggs]

Clemson has played in the Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, and Sugar Bowls in 7 of the last 8 years with 4 championship appearances and went undefeated in the ACC last year. If this season sets off 3-4 years of hovering around 7-wins, then we can say they are headed to mediocrity.

Other programs are trying to win, too, and I would say the ascension of primarily Georgia, but also some of the other ACC schools taking things seriously (FSU, Miami, UNC) and Tennessee, LSU, and Ole Miss has been a factor. Along with them clearly missing the early boat on NIL, choosing poorly on QBs after having two generational ones, and having less money in the ACC versus the worst programs in the SEC and Big Ten are all factors.

He would still have his choice of jobs if he ever becomes available.

[Ghost Econ]

Self-righteous people tend to lash out at less powerful people when they meet adversity. He's no different than any other televangelist.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

He would still have his choice of jobs if he ever becomes available.

If by choice you mean Liberty and the service academies. The DII and DIII ranks too I guess.

Otherwise not sure who else gets in line for a thin skinned sanctimonius prick that is so far up his own ass with denial that he doesn't comprehend the reality of the world he lives in.

edit: Keep in mind here, I agree with a lot of what he says he wishes was so ... I'm just not so delusional that I believe you can be compete at a high level without functioning in the world that IS.

[cuervo72]

*shrug*

So he'll just run for Senate.

[Kodos]

Maybe he can block promotions for the military too!

[albionmoonlight]

He came in at the tail end of a college football world made for his style. And, as Jon notes, he isn't adapting to the new reality. And, more to the point, he's actively opposed to it, which implies that a change of heart isn't coming anytime soon (or ever).

[JPhillips]

Like at every big program, he's fine until the donors start turning on him.

[Ghost Econ]

Every time you think it can't get dumber

Central Michigan is investigating if the person on the right here is Connor Stalions on the CMU sideline at Michigan State earlier this season.

AD Amy Folan: “We became aware of these photos late yesterday and we are in the process of determining the facts surrounding them." pic.twitter.com/ncazAghBbS

— Chris Vannini (@ChrisVannini) October 31, 2023

[Ksyrup]

Someone should Photoshop Bobby Valentine with the fake mustache onto the body, but that would probably do nothing more than show how old I am.

[HerRealName]

ENHANCE pic.twitter.com/fGny8k39qf

— BUSTICLΞSΞ (@Busticlese) October 31, 2023

This cracked me up.

[Solecismic]

This is surreal. Someone please wake me up and tell me the last two months never happened.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Clemson has played in the Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, and Sugar Bowls in 7 of the last 8 years with 4 championship appearances and went undefeated in the ACC last year. If this season sets off 3-4 years of hovering around 7-wins, then we can say they are headed to mediocrity.

Other programs are trying to win, too, and I would say the ascension of primarily Georgia, but also some of the other ACC schools taking things seriously (FSU, Miami, UNC) and Tennessee, LSU, and Ole Miss has been a factor. Along with them clearly missing the early boat on NIL, choosing poorly on QBs after having two generational ones, and having less money in the ACC versus the worst programs in the SEC and Big Ten are all factors.

He would still have his choice of jobs if he ever becomes available.

Do you see them getting back to that level with considerably less talent? I'm not saying they should fire the guy or anything, but it's tough to see how he puts together a talented enough roster to overcome his coaching deficiencies without using the transfer portal or having a neverending train of 4-5 star recruits.


Just saying I don't really see the path toward Clemson being a powerhouse again anytime soon.

[Ghost Econ]

He's just mad because the money they used for pay players with was tax free when they funneled it through the church, now that it's out in the open they can't compete.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Do you see them getting back to that level with considerably less talent? I'm not saying they should fire the guy or anything, but it's tough to see how he puts together a talented enough roster to overcome his coaching deficiencies without using the transfer portal or having a neverending train of 4-5 star recruits.


Just saying I don't really see the path toward Clemson being a powerhouse again anytime soon.

I hear what you are saying, but with the way the ACC is structured right now, I don't think it is too much of a stretch to see them go undefeated again in their conference. There are really only 5 or 6 schools that take football seriously (Clemson, FSU, Miami, Virginia Tech, maybe NC State, UNC, Louisville?) and then they are adding Cal and Stanford and SMU. I assume they'll go to an 8 or 9 game conference schedule with that many teams, so maybe they have to beat 3 or 4 of those schools, beat one in the ACC championship, and then beat South Carolina (and maybe Notre Dame some years with their scheduling agreement).

With the expansion of teams, I honestly think things are pretty ripe for Clemson or FSU to have an easier path to the championship than a lot of SEC or Big Ten teams.

[HerRealName]

OSU probably belongs at 4, not 1. It doesn't matter at this point in the season but until the red zone issues are solved, they don't belong at 1. Georgia and FSU would be my top 2.

[GrantDawg]

The committee is obvious in its attempts to get people up in arms. It is boring at this point.

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[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

OSU probably belongs at 4, not 1. It doesn't matter at this point in the season but until the red zone issues are solved, they don't belong at 1. Georgia and FSU would be my top 2.

Ohio State actually beat good teams. You can make more of a case that Alabama should be ahead of Georgia than Georgia should be ahead of Ohio State.

All this will change with Georgia's upcoming schedule, but who you beat should matter.