WW CXXVI: Wolves in Asgard - Game Over (Result in Post 2538) - Page 15

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 04:54 PM

to piggyback on something I think J23 said this page...

which wolf do people think is most likely to have a duke like ability?

Barkeep49 · 08-10-2011, 04:55 PM

Chubby as you no doubt got sick of reading I'm definitely not sold on Danny's claim. But isn't the downside risk enough such that we should vote elsewhere
today?

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Chubby as you no doubt got sick of reading I'm definitely not sold on Danny's claim. But isn't the downside risk enough such that we should vote elsewhere
today?

heh, there was a lot to catch up on but at least I got a couple pages in on my blackberry on the way home from work

To your question: nope.

Zinto · 08-10-2011, 04:57 PM

Well I am slightly confused but it looks like my choice in candidates(baring both Chubby and Danny telling the truth) has been pretty poor so far this game.

Unvote J23

Autumn · 08-10-2011, 04:59 PM

Chubby makes sense to me.

unvote jheinz
vote danny

Lathum · 08-10-2011, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

lathum could certainly build trust with me if he said which item he passed me.

)

I see no reason to give the wolves extra info and how would that add trust?

Barkeep49 · 08-10-2011, 05:01 PM

Someone with familiarity of the Norse pantheon: Are there familial relations between evil characters and good characters? In other words could Chubby be telling the truth about being related to J23 and still be bad within the characters we have?

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I see no reason to give the wolves extra info and how would that add trust?

what info, that a particular item was in the game that they may or may not know about?

trust since what that item would have allowed me to do in case I was that character.

I mean, if you don't want to say that's fine. You'll be my lynch target tomorrow.

ntndeacon · 08-10-2011, 05:06 PM

unvote heinz
VOte Chubby

J23 · 08-10-2011, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Someone with familiarity of the Norse pantheon: Are there familial relations between evil characters and good characters? In other words could Chubby be telling the truth about being related to J23 and still be bad within the characters we have?

Without knowing the mythology particularly well, but knowing my role and reading the others in the game, I don't see this happening.

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 05:07 PM

and Lathum, since I believe you are lying about passing me the item.

good luck google searching and guessing correctly

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

unvote heinz
VOte Chubby

probably not the wisest vote, especially with no reasoning. but i fully expect the wolves to try and save Danny

Zinto · 08-10-2011, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

unvote heinz
VOte Chubby

Odd vote NTN it doesn't make sense unless you think Chubby and J23 are playing one of the worst games as wolves I have seen. I think there is only one thing to do at this point and that is to vote for Danny.

Vote Danny

mauchow · 08-10-2011, 05:22 PM

What a wild second day. I'm not sure I've seen this much action within the first two days as this.
vote danny

jeheinz72 · 08-10-2011, 05:23 PM

I don't get this wild swing back to Danny. I don't see it as a risk worth taking

Danny · 08-10-2011, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauboy1

What a wild second day. I'm not sure I've seen this much action within the first two days as this.
vote danny

When I am involved there is always action!

JAG · 08-10-2011, 05:25 PM

Day 2 Voting as of Post 716:

Chubby 5 - Lathum (501), Darth Vilus (644), EagleFan (670), mckerney (675), ntndeacon (709)
Danny 5 - Chubby (694), J23 (700), Autumn (706), Zinto (713), mauboy1 (714)
ntndeacon 2 - Narcizo (607), jheinz72 (694)
J23 1 - Racer (609)
Jeheinz72 1 - Danny (492)

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

When I am involved there is always action!

Are you trying to play like me again?

Danny · 08-10-2011, 05:25 PM

I don't understand this recent push towards me. Chubby makes some weird posts, votes me and then a whole load of people follow.

I agree that it is very unlikely both Chubby and J23 are wolves. In fact I feel really good about J23. But chubby could easily be a wolf trying to link himself to a villager and is acting pretty desperate to me right now and throwing around threats left and right.

jeheinz72 · 08-10-2011, 05:29 PM

I'm outta here, I think Chubby is just playing too strong of a villager right now and I'm not inclined to risk a BG lynch of Danny. Ergo, I stay where I am.

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I don't understand this recent push towards me. Chubby makes some weird posts, votes me and then a whole load of people follow.

I agree that it is very unlikely both Chubby and J23 are wolves. In fact I feel really good about J23. But chubby could easily be a wolf trying to link himself to a villager and is acting pretty desperate to me right now and throwing around threats left and right.

Why would I "clear" J23 when I thought I was going to get duked out if I was a wolf?

Wouldn't I have picked somebody with at least a smidge of heat on them to "fake" clear if that was my plan?

Fact is, I knew he was family and wanted to make sure I posted it before I died.

Racer · 08-10-2011, 05:31 PM

Unvote J23

Based on Chubby saying he's a family member.

Thomkal · 08-10-2011, 05:31 PM

Hey Chubby (or anyone else) can you confirm that the first time you spoke up about your feelings about J23 was post #347 at 10pm yesterday?

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Hey Chubby (or anyone else) can you confirm that the first time you spoke up about your feelings about J23 was post #347 at 10pm yesterday?

I believe so, but I will have somebody else confirm

bhlloy · 08-10-2011, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I'm outta here, I think Chubby is just playing too strong of a villager right now and I'm not inclined to risk a BG lynch of Danny. Ergo, I stay where I am.

This is certainly going to be the most interesting day I've ever been involved in. I can't remember a day where we've had 2 unchallenged reveals and it looks like they are going to be the 2 runaway vote getters.

Thomkal · 08-10-2011, 05:37 PM

item passing orders have to be sent in by lynching time correct?

Danny · 08-10-2011, 05:37 PM

We've had an impressive level of activity so far this game.

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal

item passing orders have to be sent in by lynching time correct?

yes, I believe JAG commented today that all orders are due at 10 PM EST for day and night actions.

Thomkal · 08-10-2011, 05:42 PM

thanks chubby, can someone besides him confirm that his first post about J23 was at lynch deadline yesterday?

mckerney · 08-10-2011, 05:44 PM

Feel like I can't move my vote off of Chubby right now for two reasons. One, he's basing his defense on, "Why would I clear J23?" when there's an obvious reason that by doing so he could also make himself look good (then mentioning he was worried about the duke offing him which he completely made up and attributed the idea to others). Second he's still insisting that lynching Danny is a good move when there's a risk associated with it and worst case scenario if Danny is a wolf we get him in a day or two when it's revealed he's lying.

Racer · 08-10-2011, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

Why would I "clear" J23 when I thought I was going to get duked out if I was a wolf?

Wouldn't I have picked somebody with at least a smidge of heat on them to "fake" clear if that was my plan?

Fact is, I knew he was family and wanted to make sure I posted it before I died.

Ugh, that might have been a bad move depending on whether he has any special role. Simply put, if he was in danger, he could have revealed himself later on to hopefully buy himself some time. Saying he's related to you could put a target on his back.

Granted if he was a vanilla villager, he could out you as a wolf now. So I'm inclined to believe either both of you are villagers or both of you are wolves (probably that both of you are villagers).

Lathum · 08-10-2011, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

and Lathum, since I believe you are lying about passing me the item.

don't you think that if someone else passed you the item they would have come out and said so, thus exposing me as a fraud?

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney

Feel like I can't move my vote off of Chubby right now for two reasons. One, he's basing his defense on, "Why would I clear J23?" when there's an obvious reason that by doing so he could also make himself look good (then mentioning he was worried about the duke offing him which he completely made up and attributed the idea to others). Second he's still insisting that lynching Danny is a good move when there's a risk associated with it and worst case scenario if Danny is a wolf we get him in a day or two when it's revealed he's lying.

1. Just to clarify, i'm not basing my defence solely on "Why would I clear J23".

2. There's no risk to lynching Danny.

Racer · 08-10-2011, 05:49 PM

I don't really want to vote for Danny or Chubby. Both because of their reveals.

Anyways, for now,

Vote Hoopsguy

Voted for EF and has been quiet. He said he wouldn't be busy this game and wouldn't be able to contribute much. Said he was a vanilla villager. Really could be a villager or a wolf.

What's the reason for the votes on ntndeacon again?

bhlloy · 08-10-2011, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

2. There's no risk to lynching Danny.

I'd love to hear the reason behind this

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

don't you think that if someone else passed you the item they would have come out and said so, thus exposing me as a fraud?

then by all means, tell me what you passed me.

I'll be happy to tell you what I have afterwards and anyone can feel free to expose me at that point when they have it.

or you can tell me and i'll be off your case when you are right as you claim.

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'd love to hear the reason behind this

Do you think the only information I have is that J23 is a family member?

mckerney · 08-10-2011, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'd love to hear the reason behind this

After his explanation for needing to clear J23 yesterday because he believed Lathum was the duke who would save himself by duking the lynch from Danny to Chubby because he was the second leading vote getter even though he was third in the voting, this one should be good.

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer

I don't really want to vote for Danny or Chubby. Both because of their reveals.

Anyways, for now,

Vote Hoopsguy

Voted for EF and has been quiet. He said he wouldn't be busy this game and wouldn't be able to contribute much. Said he was a vanilla villager. Really could be a villager or a wolf.

What's the reason for the votes on ntndeacon again?

Honestly, I'm much more suspicious of ntn than hoops at this stage of the game. Not saying I believe hoops is a villager but ntn's ninja vote on me with no explanation pings me bigtime.

Lathum · 08-10-2011, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

then by all means, tell me what you passed me.

I'll be happy to tell you what I have afterwards and anyone can feel free to expose me at that point when they have it.

or you can tell me and i'll be off your case when you are right as you claim.

I have no desire to give extra info, vote me if you like. If the fact that no one else is coming forward saying it was them that passed you the item isn't enough then there is no point in further discussion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

Do you think the only information I have is that J23 is a family member?

You are starting out the game with an aweful lot of information. Usually that advantage goes to wolves only.

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I have no desire to give extra info, vote me if you like. If the fact that no one else is coming forward saying it was them that passed you the item isn't enough then there is no point in further discussion

You are stating out the game with an aweful lot of information. Usually that advantage goes to wolves only.

You are clearly wolf then.

It pays to read the rules and history of the characters in the game. I'm curious if Danny knows his slipup.

mckerney · 08-10-2011, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

You are clearly wolf then.

It pays to read the rules and history of the characters in the game. I'm curious if Danny knows his slipup.

You seem to have a ton of super secret information you're not willing to share with everyone else. Seems to me sharing is something a villager would do.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2011, 06:05 PM

Caught up, and was already leaning towards voting Danny. Although his posts haven't struck me quite as over-the-top as Joker revealed (see a couple of games ago) they did give me an air of "bad guy in the open". I think the chances are quite high that he is putting this out there to bait Thor.

We still have no explanation for how Danny was saved, unless you believe Danny is Thor and has the combo BG/no lynch power. On top of Baldur not being able to be lynched. I find this to be a pretty straight-forward vote and I'm surprised the "too valuable to risk" argument got as much traction as it did.

VOTE DANNY

Danny · 08-10-2011, 06:05 PM

Frankly, you sound like as wolf in panic mode.

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney

You seem to have a ton of super secret information you're not willing to share with everyone else. Seems to me sharing is something a villager would do.

not really super secret, i shared my info on being a family member of J23 last night.

I read the rules and history of the characters, nothing secret there. There's no reason for Lathum to not tell me the item as it wouldn't help the wolves at all. hell, he doesn't even need to say what it does just it's name to prove it.

revealing more would reveal my role, something that I didn't think would help last night (when I thought I was going to die anyways) and I still don't think will help the village by doing so tonight.

mckerney · 08-10-2011, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Frankly, you sound like as wolf in panic mode.

At first I was ready to get on board with Chubby's sort of reveal, but the more he goes on the more and more he looks like a wolf.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2011, 06:08 PM

Also, this isn't coming from me being Thor - still a vanilla villager, like I claimed earlier. Just one that is going to push hard against what I feel is a bogus reveal rather than let it fester for days.

Finally, I'll go along with what EagleFan is suggesting but I'm not positive I'll be around right at deadline. Still, I'll try to make my pass early.

Bug saying he tried to pass the Mistletoe to Dubb, and no one countering him on it, leave me in a position where I would put him on a "more trusted" list since I expect that the wolves would have wanted to hold onto the item and use it to kill the guy who can't be hurt.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2011, 06:08 PM

Off to catch a train - back in a few hours.

Chubby · 08-10-2011, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Frankly, you sound like as wolf in panic mode.

Nice try but nope.

I do hope your wolf partners continue to out themselves tho

Racer · 08-10-2011, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

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Ragnarok: The specter of Ragnarok, the climactic battle between good and evil that will decide the fate of the world, hovers over all that happens this game. There is no guarantee that during the timeline of the game you will have to face it or what form it will take if you do, but you know being lynched or night-killed will lessen your influence on the final battle, should it occur.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

You are clearly wolf then.

It pays to read the rules and history of the characters in the game. I'm curious if Danny knows his slipup.

Is this it? It appears Thor should have influence on the final battle reading his bio and the Midgard Serpant's bio. It looks like others are involved in this as well.

It says he is fated to to slay and be slain by Midgard Serpant.

08-10-2011, 04:54 PM	#701
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	to piggyback on something I think J23 said this page... which wolf do people think is most likely to have a duke like ability?

08-10-2011, 04:55 PM	#702
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Chubby as you no doubt got sick of reading I'm definitely not sold on Danny's claim. But isn't the downside risk enough such that we should vote elsewhere today?

08-10-2011, 04:57 PM	#704
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	Well I am slightly confused but it looks like my choice in candidates(baring both Chubby and Danny telling the truth) has been pretty poor so far this game. Unvote J23

08-10-2011, 04:59 PM	#705
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Chubby makes sense to me. unvote jheinz vote danny

08-10-2011, 05:01 PM	#707
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Someone with familiarity of the Norse pantheon: Are there familial relations between evil characters and good characters? In other words could Chubby be telling the truth about being related to J23 and still be bad within the characters we have?

08-10-2011, 05:06 PM	#709
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	unvote heinz VOte Chubby

08-10-2011, 05:07 PM	#711
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	and Lathum, since I believe you are lying about passing me the item. good luck google searching and guessing correctly

08-10-2011, 05:22 PM	#714
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	What a wild second day. I'm not sure I've seen this much action within the first two days as this. vote danny

08-10-2011, 05:25 PM	#717
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Day 2 Voting as of Post 716: Chubby 5 - Lathum (501), Darth Vilus (644), EagleFan (670), mckerney (675), ntndeacon (709) Danny 5 - Chubby (694), J23 (700), Autumn (706), Zinto (713), mauboy1 (714) ntndeacon 2 - Narcizo (607), jheinz72 (694) J23 1 - Racer (609) Jeheinz72 1 - Danny (492)

08-10-2011, 05:25 PM	#719
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I don't understand this recent push towards me. Chubby makes some weird posts, votes me and then a whole load of people follow. I agree that it is very unlikely both Chubby and J23 are wolves. In fact I feel really good about J23. But chubby could easily be a wolf trying to link himself to a villager and is acting pretty desperate to me right now and throwing around threats left and right.

08-10-2011, 05:31 PM	#722
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Unvote J23 Based on Chubby saying he's a family member.

08-10-2011, 05:31 PM	#723
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Hey Chubby (or anyone else) can you confirm that the first time you spoke up about your feelings about J23 was post #347 at 10pm yesterday?

08-10-2011, 05:37 PM	#726
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	item passing orders have to be sent in by lynching time correct?

08-10-2011, 05:37 PM	#727
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	We've had an impressive level of activity so far this game.

08-10-2011, 05:42 PM	#729
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	thanks chubby, can someone besides him confirm that his first post about J23 was at lynch deadline yesterday?

08-10-2011, 05:44 PM	#730
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Feel like I can't move my vote off of Chubby right now for two reasons. One, he's basing his defense on, "Why would I clear J23?" when there's an obvious reason that by doing so he could also make himself look good (then mentioning he was worried about the duke offing him which he completely made up and attributed the idea to others). Second he's still insisting that lynching Danny is a good move when there's a risk associated with it and worst case scenario if Danny is a wolf we get him in a day or two when it's revealed he's lying.

08-10-2011, 05:49 PM	#734
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	I don't really want to vote for Danny or Chubby. Both because of their reveals. Anyways, for now, Vote Hoopsguy Voted for EF and has been quiet. He said he wouldn't be busy this game and wouldn't be able to contribute much. Said he was a vanilla villager. Really could be a villager or a wolf. What's the reason for the votes on ntndeacon again?

08-10-2011, 06:05 PM	#743
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Caught up, and was already leaning towards voting Danny. Although his posts haven't struck me quite as over-the-top as Joker revealed (see a couple of games ago) they did give me an air of "bad guy in the open". I think the chances are quite high that he is putting this out there to bait Thor. We still have no explanation for how Danny was saved, unless you believe Danny is Thor and has the combo BG/no lynch power. On top of Baldur not being able to be lynched. I find this to be a pretty straight-forward vote and I'm surprised the "too valuable to risk" argument got as much traction as it did. VOTE DANNY

08-10-2011, 06:05 PM	#744
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Frankly, you sound like as wolf in panic mode.

08-10-2011, 06:08 PM	#747
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Also, this isn't coming from me being Thor - still a vanilla villager, like I claimed earlier. Just one that is going to push hard against what I feel is a bogus reveal rather than let it fester for days. Finally, I'll go along with what EagleFan is suggesting but I'm not positive I'll be around right at deadline. Still, I'll try to make my pass early. Bug saying he tried to pass the Mistletoe to Dubb, and no one countering him on it, leave me in a position where I would put him on a "more trusted" list since I expect that the wolves would have wanted to hold onto the item and use it to kill the guy who can't be hurt.

08-10-2011, 06:08 PM	#748
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Off to catch a train - back in a few hours.

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