The Official 2014 NFL Draft Thread - Page 15

Julio Riddols · 05-09-2014, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

Well, I was one off on my OL, OL, OL guess for Miami. OL, WR, OL. That said I think Jarvis Landry is a great pickup after trading down twice, and he'll fit in well with as the #3 WR.

I thought Landry was a great pick as well.

I also think I like the RB pick by the Bengals, but I really hope they know what they're getting in a guy that has had violence issues off the field. That would have taken him off my board no matter how beastly he looks or how good his hands apparently are. I like his self confidence and production though, 6.9 a pop in the SEC as a soph is pretty damn stout.

BillJasper · 05-09-2014, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I thought Landry was a great pick as well.

I also think I like the RB pick by the Bengals, but I really hope they know what they're getting in a guy that has had violence issues off the field. That would have taken him off my board no matter how beastly he looks or how good his hands apparently are. I like his self confidence and production though, 6.9 a pop in the SEC as a soph is pretty damn stout.

Just what the Bengals need, Lawrence Phillips 2.0!

BillJasper · 05-09-2014, 10:50 PM

This could be bad...

Report: Josh Gordon fails drug test, could be facing lengthy suspension | National Football Post

Browns can't catch a break.

cartman · 05-09-2014, 10:54 PM

Maybe, like in hockey, they can designate someone to serve the penalty.

Buccaneer · 05-09-2014, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

It's so weird to think that the Patriots will have a new starting QB soon, and hey, he might be "Jimmy Garoppolo". Brady took over my first year of adulthood after college, I know no other Patriots QB as an adult Patriots fan. I mean, I thought of Bledsoe as something of a Patriots institution at the end of my college days. This is just going to be weird.

You don't remember Jim Plunkett starting for the Patriots when they changed their name from Boston to New England?!?

Truthfully, I became a Patriots fan when the Rams got rid of Kurt, so Brady too is the only QB when the Pats have been my favorite team.

Apathetic Lurker · 05-10-2014, 12:46 AM

Meh, every year the Patriots draft a qb as Brady's successor.... There is going to be at least one or two more drafted before Brady retires.

Desnudo · 05-10-2014, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

It's so weird to think that the Patriots will have a new starting QB soon, and hey, he might be "Jimmy Garoppolo". Brady took over my first year of adulthood after college, I know no other Patriots QB as an adult Patriots fan. I mean, I thought of Bledsoe as something of a Patriots institution at the end of my college days. This is just going to be weird.

It won't be grarppolo. It should have been bridgewater.

stevew · 05-10-2014, 01:08 AM

Who was most delusional this year, showed up for the first round and was drafted the lowest?

Matthean · 05-10-2014, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

It won't be grarppolo. It should have been bridgewater.

And yet obviously the Pats thought Grappolo was worth a pick.

Apathetic Lurker · 05-10-2014, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Who was most delusional this year, showed up for the first round and was drafted the lowest?

I dont blame the players...Its the NFL that invites them. I think they know that some of these players are going to fall but want the drama for their ratings...

Logan · 05-10-2014, 09:20 AM

I absolutely love what the Niners did last night. Of all the picks, Hyde might be the one I like the least. But Martin was a great value and could end up starting at center, Borland could be great against the run filling in for Bowman, and Brandon Thomas will get a year to rehab and could provide some insurance if they can't get a deal done with Iupati next year.

Vince, Pt. II · 05-10-2014, 09:26 AM

Yup. It's amazing how much Baalke has turned the franchise around. And hilarious how much Ralph Barbieri (local sports radio show host) hated him and thought he was terrible.

mckerney · 05-10-2014, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Who was most delusional this year, showed up for the first round and was drafted the lowest?

USC Center Marcus Martin who went to the 49ers at 70th overall.

Matthean · 05-10-2014, 10:06 AM

Interesting to see McCarron, Murray, and Mettenberger are all three sitting there on Day 3.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-10-2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Interesting to see McCarron, Murray, and Mettenberger are all three sitting there on Day 3.

A fact which suggests to me that maybe, just maybe, NFL GM's are getting a little smarter.

Logan · 05-10-2014, 11:24 AM

Ellington to the Niners. Nice.

albionmoonlight · 05-10-2014, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

USC Center Marcus Martin who went to the 49ers at 70th overall.

The Saints need a center, and a lot of people had him pegged to go there at pick 58.

BillJasper · 05-10-2014, 12:15 PM

Is Mortensen having a stroke on-air?

Kodos · 05-10-2014, 12:33 PM

Delighted to see IU's Cody Latimer go to the Broncos. I was thinking they'd nab Carlos Hyde with that pick.

PilotMan · 05-10-2014, 12:56 PM

Happy to see the big NDSU Tackle, Billy Turner go in the 3rd round. Probably the highest NFL draft pick out of NDSU.

Bigsmooth · 05-10-2014, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Is Mortensen having a stroke on-air?

Ha, yeah, Schefter was looking worried for a minute. Mort must be way older than he looks, right? He's been around forever.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-10-2014, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmooth

Ha, yeah, Schefter was looking worried for a minute. Mort must be way older than he looks, right? He's been around forever.

Will be 63 in November.

tarcone · 05-10-2014, 01:53 PM

I am SHOCKED McCarron is still available.
Whats going on there? Whomever picks him up may have a kid that will be a superstar. A winner with a chip on his shoulder.

BillJasper · 05-10-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

I am SHOCKED McCarron is still available.
Whats going on there? Whomever picks him up may have a kid that will be a superstar. A winner with a chip on his shoulder.

ESPN was just saying that the interview process with teams didn't go very well. That whenever there were mistakes he would blame other people for them.

JPhillips · 05-10-2014, 02:16 PM

Just saw a crazy stat on ESPN. The last time a QB drafted by the Chiefs won a game as a Chief was 1987!

Abe Sargent · 05-10-2014, 02:44 PM

I wish ESPN would have more stories like the ones they just told about OG John Urschel.

mauchow · 05-10-2014, 03:00 PM

James White to the Patriots and Jared Abbrederris to the Packers. Packers may have gotten pretty good value out of this pick if JA stays away from getting anymore concussions.

James White will be a steady figure for the Patriots. He's not excellent at anything but has good shiftiness and very good hands.

BillJasper · 05-10-2014, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I wish ESPN would have more stories like the ones they just told about OG John Urschel.

+1

stevew · 05-10-2014, 03:07 PM

Bengals can let the ginger play out the year and then can just see how McCarron looks. If the think he might get there they can either move on from Dalton or just transition/franchise Dalton for an extra year. Pretty sad that the Bengals are now run better than the Steelers

Thomkal · 05-10-2014, 03:33 PM

Nice to see two more Coastal Carolina Chanticleers make it to the NFL. WR Matt Hazel to the Dolphins in Round 6, and RB Lorenzo Taliaferro in the fourth round to the Ravens. I think both have a chance for success in the NFL, but then I'm biased.

a bit surprised to see LT go in the fourth.

Julio Riddols · 05-10-2014, 04:08 PM

I am interested to see what Duvernay-Tardif does in KC. Really wanted Cinci to get him as a developmental prospect, I think the Chiefs got a huge steal there.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-10-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Nice to see two more Coastal Carolina Chanticleers make it to the NFL. WR Matt Hazel to the Dolphins in Round 6, and RB Lorenzo Taliaferro in the fourth round to the Ravens. I think both have a chance for success in the NFL, but then I'm biased.

a bit surprised to see LT go in the fourth.

That they had the same number of draftees thus far as both Tennessee and Georgia Tech speaks volumes to me about the state of those programs.

And no, that's not intended as a slight to CC. I mean, the two I named do have a tad bit more football history behind them and should, by all rights, be better.

twothree · 05-10-2014, 04:33 PM

So, in three or four years, do we get to watch Johnny Manziel vs. AJ McCarron again?

Danny · 05-10-2014, 04:35 PM

Johnny will have retired due to injury and aj will be a career backup

bob · 05-10-2014, 04:41 PM

Wait, Tommy Rees is still available?

:-)

tarcone · 05-10-2014, 04:51 PM

Im a McCarron fanboy. Mark this post. He will win a Chmpionship!

Danny · 05-10-2014, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Im a McCarron fanboy. Mark this post. He will win a Chmpionship!

A backup qb wins a championship every year so you never know

JonInMiddleGA · 05-10-2014, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by twothree

So, in three or four years, do we get to watch Johnny Manziel vs. AJ McCarron again?

Only in arena or the CFL most likely.

Honestly, of all the QB's drafted out of the SEC the only one I see ever amounting to much might be Manziel and even that feels like an against-the-odds thing. Top 25 competition tended to bring out the worst in Murray and his teams, Mettenberger is just a spoiled punkass bitch, and McCarron -- for whatever reason I can't quite define -- feels like yet another Bama QB that was more the recipient of all the talent around him with a career arc similar to most of those before him (McElroy, JP Wilson)

edit to add: And yes, I know he looks different than those guys. I just don't know that he feels significantly different to me.

Izulde · 05-10-2014, 05:03 PM

Jaguars also picked up Storm Johnson, doubling down on UCF guys it appears.

BillJasper · 05-10-2014, 05:45 PM

Funny watching Bill Polian try to explain reasons why Michael Sam hasn't been drafted so far that doesn't have to do with him being gay.

Are people really this afraid of gay folks. Guy is a fucking SEC defensive player of the year.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-10-2014, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Funny watching Bill Polian try to explain reasons why Michael Sam hasn't been drafted so far that doesn't have to do with him being gay.

Are people really this afraid of gay folks. Guy is a fucking SEC defensive player of the year.

Guy was always considered a late round prospect for the NFL afaik. Who in their right mind would want the media circus he'll entail for a marginal prospect?

Tebow was "marginal" perhaps and certainly had the circus ... but he was also one of the most popular sports figures in recent memory after years of college success & hype. That's not the case with Sam in the slightest.

BillJasper · 05-10-2014, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Guy was always considered a late round prospect for the NFL afaik. Who in their right mind would want the media circus he'll entail for a marginal prospect?

Tebow was "marginal" perhaps and certainly had the circus ... but he was also one of the most popular sports figures in recent memory after years of college success & hype. That's not the case with Sam in the slightest.

Honestly, there hasn't been much of a circus around gay players in other sports. No former SEC Defensive POY has fallen this far in the draft.

St. Louis just took Sam and they likely got themselves a hell of a player.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-10-2014, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Honestly, there hasn't been much of a circus around gay players in other sports. No former SEC Defensive POY has fallen this far in the draft. St. Louis just took Sam and they likely got themselves a hell of a player.

His undrafted status was the top story on ESPN.com most of the day.

And when he's cut -- as is the usual case for late picks regardless of their sexual orientation -- God help the poor team that has to manage that p.r. nightmare and defend themselves against agendas that have nothing to do with football.

edit to add: As for "no former SEC DPOY falling this far" ... see how those SEC QB's fared in the draft? Maybe, just maybe, being the DPOY last year just isn't as impressive as it has been in some seasons past.

BillJasper · 05-10-2014, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

His undrafted status was the top story on ESPN.com most of the day.

And when he's cut -- as is the usual case for late picks regardless of their sexual orientation -- God help the poor team that has to manage that p.r. nightmare and defend themselves against agendas that have nothing to do with football.

This is the same non-sense teams used to use to say to keep from hiring black head coaches.

stevew · 05-10-2014, 06:02 PM

Sacks are a shitty stat to base a player's value off of. The only thing that matters is the ability to get to the QB at the NFL level. The guy seems like a tweener which is the worst place you can be.

stevew · 05-10-2014, 06:06 PM

If he was an exceptional prospect he would be drafted. Since he isn't he will get the same shot that everyone else does. He might need a passport to play professional football.

BillJasper · 05-10-2014, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Sacks are a shitty stat to base a player's value off of. The only thing that matters is the ability to get to the QB at the NFL level. The guy seems like a tweener which is the worst place you can be.

Clowney is 3 inches taller and 4 pounds heavier.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-10-2014, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

This is the same non-sense teams used to use to say to keep from hiring black head coaches.

More like common sense than nonsense afaic.

If multiple choices are roughly equal, the one with the fewest negatives often becomes the wiser choice.

stevew · 05-10-2014, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Clowney is 3 inches taller and 4 pounds heavier.

Not quick enough to play OLB and not strong and explosive enough to play DE is a tweeter.

Clowney is the most physically gifted defensive player in a generation

BillJasper · 05-10-2014, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

More like common sense than nonsense afaic.

If multiple choices are roughly equal, the one with the fewest negatives often becomes the wiser choice.

That should be our slogan for the 21st century: America, the path of least resistance!

05-09-2014, 10:50 PM	#703
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	This could be bad... Report: Josh Gordon fails drug test, could be facing lengthy suspension \| National Football Post Browns can't catch a break. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

05-09-2014, 10:54 PM	#704
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05-10-2014, 10:06 AM	#714
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Interesting to see McCarron, Murray, and Mettenberger are all three sitting there on Day 3. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

05-10-2014, 12:15 PM	#718
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Is Mortensen having a stroke on-air? __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

05-10-2014, 12:33 PM	#719
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Delighted to see IU's Cody Latimer go to the Broncos. I was thinking they'd nab Carlos Hyde with that pick. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

05-10-2014, 12:46 AM	#706
Apathetic Lurker College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo,NY	Meh, every year the Patriots draft a qb as Brady's successor.... There is going to be at least one or two more drafted before Brady retires.

05-10-2014, 01:08 AM	#708
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Who was most delusional this year, showed up for the first round and was drafted the lowest?

05-10-2014, 09:20 AM	#711
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I absolutely love what the Niners did last night. Of all the picks, Hyde might be the one I like the least. But Martin was a great value and could end up starting at center, Borland could be great against the run filling in for Bowman, and Brandon Thomas will get a year to rehab and could provide some insurance if they can't get a deal done with Iupati next year.

05-10-2014, 09:26 AM	#712
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Yup. It's amazing how much Baalke has turned the franchise around. And hilarious how much Ralph Barbieri (local sports radio show host) hated him and thought he was terrible.

05-10-2014, 11:24 AM	#716
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Ellington to the Niners. Nice.

05-10-2014, 12:56 PM	#720
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Happy to see the big NDSU Tackle, Billy Turner go in the 3rd round. Probably the highest NFL draft pick out of NDSU. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

05-10-2014, 01:53 PM	#723
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	I am SHOCKED McCarron is still available. Whats going on there? Whomever picks him up may have a kid that will be a superstar. A winner with a chip on his shoulder. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

05-10-2014, 02:16 PM	#725
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05-10-2014, 02:44 PM	#726
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05-10-2014, 03:00 PM	#727
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	James White to the Patriots and Jared Abbrederris to the Packers. Packers may have gotten pretty good value out of this pick if JA stays away from getting anymore concussions. James White will be a steady figure for the Patriots. He's not excellent at anything but has good shiftiness and very good hands.

05-10-2014, 03:07 PM	#729
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Bengals can let the ginger play out the year and then can just see how McCarron looks. If the think he might get there they can either move on from Dalton or just transition/franchise Dalton for an extra year. Pretty sad that the Bengals are now run better than the Steelers

05-10-2014, 03:33 PM	#730
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Nice to see two more Coastal Carolina Chanticleers make it to the NFL. WR Matt Hazel to the Dolphins in Round 6, and RB Lorenzo Taliaferro in the fourth round to the Ravens. I think both have a chance for success in the NFL, but then I'm biased. a bit surprised to see LT go in the fourth.

05-10-2014, 04:08 PM	#731
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05-10-2014, 04:33 PM	#733
twothree College Prospect Join Date: May 2005	So, in three or four years, do we get to watch Johnny Manziel vs. AJ McCarron again?

05-10-2014, 04:35 PM	#734
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Johnny will have retired due to injury and aj will be a career backup

05-10-2014, 04:41 PM	#735
bob College Starter Join Date: Oct 2004	Wait, Tommy Rees is still available? :-)

05-10-2014, 04:51 PM	#736
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Im a McCarron fanboy. Mark this post. He will win a Chmpionship! __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

05-10-2014, 05:03 PM	#739
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Jaguars also picked up Storm Johnson, doubling down on UCF guys it appears. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-10-2014, 05:45 PM	#740
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Funny watching Bill Polian try to explain reasons why Michael Sam hasn't been drafted so far that doesn't have to do with him being gay. Are people really this afraid of gay folks. Guy is a fucking SEC defensive player of the year. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

05-10-2014, 06:02 PM	#745
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Sacks are a shitty stat to base a player's value off of. The only thing that matters is the ability to get to the QB at the NFL level. The guy seems like a tweener which is the worst place you can be.

05-10-2014, 06:06 PM	#746
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	If he was an exceptional prospect he would be drafted. Since he isn't he will get the same shot that everyone else does. He might need a passport to play professional football.

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