Official 2021 College Football thread - Page 16

JPhillips · 10-23-2021, 02:59 PM

I'm going to be very interested in the playoff rankings. The AP rankings would make it very likely that three spots are taken by SEC/Cincy/Okla-OKSt with only one spot for B1G, SEC2, Pac10, and Notre Dame.

I expect Cincy will be fourth or out of the top four to start so that another P5 team can make it if it's still a logjam.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-23-2021, 02:59 PM

Wake Forest has given up 42 points to Army in just over three quarters today.
Rumors increasing the Wake will be invited to join the Big 12.

Or possibly the SEC West.

Brian Swartz · 10-23-2021, 03:03 PM

They seem to be the poster child, much more even than usual, for 'we're never all that impressive, but we just refuse to lose.' - meaning Oklahoma

sterlingice · 10-23-2021, 03:06 PM

Forward progress stopped?

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sterlingice · 10-23-2021, 03:09 PM

Yeah, that's some bullshit

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GrantDawg · 10-23-2021, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Yeah, that's some bullshit

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The question comes down to whether the runners body actually went past the LOS. If not, then it was legal.
the rulebook actually goes into great detail about forward handoffs. doesn't come up a lot pic.twitter.com/WIZKVleQRE — Rodger Sherman (@rodger) October 23, 2021

Brian Swartz · 10-23-2021, 03:28 PM

Kansas football was relevant today. That's an interesting development to be sure.

Overtime for PSU and Ill. I'm sure we'll end up with an entirely appropriate final score for a game that is 10-10 through 60 minutes. I'm calling 27-24 PSU in triple OT.

sterlingice · 10-23-2021, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The question comes down to whether the runners body actually went past the LOS. If not, then it was legal.
the rulebook actually goes into great detail about forward handoffs. doesn't come up a lot pic.twitter.com/WIZKVleQRE — Rodger Sherman (@rodger) October 23, 2021

I think the handoff was legit, near as the rules go - that's what it looks like per the rule book. But I think the runner should have been ruled down with forward progress stopped before the handoff occurred.

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SirFozzie · 10-23-2021, 03:40 PM

Geez. Wake-Army is the bananananananannas. 70-56. (no ot either)

GrantDawg · 10-23-2021, 03:52 PM

A kicker jump?

bronconick · 10-23-2021, 03:59 PM

I'd rather have ties than a 2 point contest

GrantDawg · 10-23-2021, 04:00 PM

I think the Illinois QB might have broke his arm,

GrantDawg · 10-23-2021, 04:03 PM

Can neither of these teams run an option?

GrantDawg · 10-23-2021, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

I'd rather have ties than a 2 point contest

Yeah, but it is pretty exciting.

Jas_lov · 10-23-2021, 04:04 PM

This 2 point off is so dumb. Can't they just play another quarter?

bronconick · 10-23-2021, 04:05 PM

Illinois has run for over 300 yards and hasn't tried to run it once during this overtime nonsense

GrantDawg · 10-23-2021, 04:07 PM

At least he caught that shovel pass.

Jas_lov · 10-23-2021, 04:10 PM

New rule: If neither team scores after 7 OTs both teams lose

GrantDawg · 10-23-2021, 04:10 PM

It was the game that never ends....it just goes on and on, my friends!!!...

GrantDawg · 10-23-2021, 04:16 PM

Finally, Illinois wins in 9 OT's.

Ksyrup · 10-23-2021, 04:16 PM

I didn't realize that was the rule change. I thought it had to do with going for 2 after you scored, not just going for 2. What a horrible rule from a gimmicky way to win/lose standpoint.

Edward64 · 10-23-2021, 04:18 PM

AR won both of its 7 OT games

2001 AR vs Ole Miss (I watched that one)
2003 AR vs KY (missed this one)

GrantDawg · 10-23-2021, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I didn't realize that was the rule change. I thought it had to do with going for 2 after you scored, not just going for 2. What a horrible rule from a gimmicky way to win/lose standpoint.

That was the old rule. They probably should go back to that.

tarcone · 10-23-2021, 04:20 PM

I couldnt figure out how each team had a safety to make it 18-18.

Stupid rule.

B1G is either very overrated or very underrated.

Edward64 · 10-23-2021, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Hogs getting it done 38-0. The 2nd team should be getting a lot of 2H playing time. Looking forward to that.

Yeah, we whupped them. Hogs were invincible ... now I know how AL (and GA and Clemson) fans feel like for at least one week.

HerRealName · 10-23-2021, 04:43 PM

The Illinois/PSU game summary is hilarious on several levels.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...reboard/BIG10/

My personal favorite is the Passing yardage by the winning team's QB.

Ksyrup · 10-23-2021, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

That was the old rule. They probably should go back to that.

Yeah, I thought they changed it from having to go for 2 after the 3rd OT to going for 2 after the 2nd OT. That's what I thought the rule change was.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-23-2021, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HerRealName

My personal favorite is the Passing yardage by the winning team's QB.

And because of the nutty new rules, the team that won the game with 357 rushing and only 38 passing yards all day did not run the ball after the 2nd OT.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-23-2021, 06:04 PM

I don't think the LSU players have all quit, but the "coaching" staff sure appears to have done so.

They haven't made an adjustment all day and it's starting to get them spanked.

Swaggs · 10-23-2021, 06:48 PM

Hard to believe how bad Clemson looks today. Getting physically manhandled and their skill players look so different from recent years.

Vegas Vic · 10-23-2021, 06:55 PM

Iowa State fans chant “Overrated! Overrated!” and then storm the field after the favored Cyclones defeat Oklahoma State.

Brian Swartz · 10-23-2021, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

I'd rather have ties than a 2 point contest

This. I'm in favor of ties at the end of regulation in non-playoff or conference championship games. It's the most appropriate result if an hour wasn't enough to decide the result.

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Originally Posted by KSyrup

I didn't realize that was the rule change. I thought it had to do with going for 2 after you scored, not just going for 2. What a horrible rule from a gimmicky way to win/lose standpoint.

Just a logical extension of the 'normal' overtime rules IMO. Essentially 'we cant be bothered to keep playing standard football until somebody wins, so we're just going to cut out the middleman'. I'd prefer they just keep playing additional quarters until somebody ends up winning.

bronconick · 10-23-2021, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

Iowa State fans chant “Overrated! Overrated!” and then storm the field after the favored Cyclones defeat Oklahoma State.

Some folks in the AP stuck Okie State at #8 so *shrug*

Brian Swartz · 10-23-2021, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

B1G is either very overrated or very underrated.

Could be the second one, but I'm taking a third option for now; parity in general. Outside of a very few elite teams (three at most this year), I think most teams are fully capable of losing almost any game at any location against any opponent.

Georgia is the only team I'm 100% sure belongs in the playoff based on performance so far. Everybody else is in some version of 'eh, depends on whether it's a good game for them or a bad game for them'.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-23-2021, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

Iowa State fans chant “Overrated! Overrated!” and then storm the field after the favored Cyclones defeat Oklahoma State.

Forgetting the first rule of cutting a promo: never bury the guy you beat.

If he sucks, then what did you really accomplish?

sterlingice · 10-23-2021, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Forgetting the first rule of cutting a promo: never bury the guy you beat.

If he sucks, then what did you really accomplish?

Exactly. Never understood that

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cuervo72 · 10-23-2021, 08:31 PM

I feel like this is not a very engaging set of late games.

Kodos · 10-23-2021, 08:33 PM

OSU game not going well so far.

Ksyrup · 10-23-2021, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

I feel like this is not a very engaging set of late games.

Tennessee hanging around, but yeah, I'm watching way more of the baseball game than I would have figured given it's an October Saturday night.

GrantDawg · 10-23-2021, 10:09 PM

Bama just looks so beatable.

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albionmoonlight · 10-24-2021, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

Iowa State fans chant “Overrated! Overrated!” and then storm the field after the favored Cyclones defeat Oklahoma State.

This is something I said a while back regarding college basketball:

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

When it was very rare and spontaneous, it was cool.

Now, when you see fans of the #23 team in the country planning to storm the court because their team is about to beat the #7 team in the country, it has just gotten silly and dangerous.

Storming the field/court should be a once every few seasons thing reserved for those "Can you believe it?!" major major upsets.

But now fans pretty much expect it, so it's just silly.

Jon had the right solution in that other thread. Fine the hell out of the home school and suspend the AD when it happens. Properly incentivized, the schools will put a stop to it right quick.

sterlingice · 10-24-2021, 11:21 AM

Kansas winning yesterday, after they even threw open the gates to let anyone and everyone in, would have merited storming the field

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Brian Swartz · 10-24-2021, 02:41 PM

Yep, that's a good example of when it would be appropriate.

Brian Swartz · 10-24-2021, 02:45 PM

Next week was going to be a huge one for the Big Ten; not so much now that Penn State lost again. Unless a different team shows up, it's hard to imagine them giving Ohio State much of a challenge.

Michigan-MSU will at least tell us who the Buckeyes top challenger is in the East. Loser of that one could have a very rough finish to the season. Spartans closing schedule esp. is painful.

Thomkal · 10-24-2021, 03:09 PM

Coastal Carolina stays in the Top 25 at #24 despite the loss this week

HomerSimpson98 · 10-24-2021, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Next week was going to be a huge one for the Big Ten; not so much now that Penn State lost again. Unless a different team shows up, it's hard to imagine them giving Ohio State much of a challenge.

Michigan-MSU will at least tell us who the Buckeyes top challenger is in the East. Loser of that one could have a very rough finish to the season. Spartans closing schedule esp. is painful.

I cant wait. Sparty is likely going to come back down to earth, but what a job Tucker has done there this year. Tough as nails team with total buy-in from the players. I hope he stays to build on what he's done, but the CU thing makes me think he is leaving shortly.

tarcone · 10-24-2021, 07:34 PM

Iowa State has little brother syndrome.

I think a buch of college kids running onto the field after a big win is awesome. College kids celebrating what their classmates accomplished. I rushed the field numerous times, tore down goal posts, Got my picture on the front page of the Cedar Rapids Gazette on the cross bar.

Great memories,

Swaggs · 10-24-2021, 07:38 PM

I think Ohio State is probably going to make the playoffs and think they will have earned it if they win out, but I think they are rated too high given who their wins are over and that they have that loss.

It also looks to me that an undefeated Cincy is going to need a lot of help to get in. Looking over the current top 10-15, it seems like a lot of other teams control their own destinies more so than they do.

Brian Swartz · 10-24-2021, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98

I cant wait. Sparty is likely going to come back down to earth, but what a job Tucker has done there this year. Tough as nails team with total buy-in from the players

Great year for MSU regardless of what happens the rest of the way.

Brian Swartz · 10-25-2021, 10:33 AM

Wisconsin opens as a 3-point favorite against Iowa. That ought to get tarcone fired up. Michigan favored by 4, that's at least in the right neighborhood although I see it more as a pick-em. I was curious what OSU-PSU would look like: OSU by 17.5. So they don't think that'll be much of a contest either.

10-23-2021, 02:59 PM	#751
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I'm going to be very interested in the playoff rankings. The AP rankings would make it very likely that three spots are taken by SEC/Cincy/Okla-OKSt with only one spot for B1G, SEC2, Pac10, and Notre Dame. I expect Cincy will be fourth or out of the top four to start so that another P5 team can make it if it's still a logjam. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

10-23-2021, 02:59 PM	#752
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Wake Forest has given up 42 points to Army in just over three quarters today. Rumors increasing the Wake will be invited to join the Big 12. Or possibly the SEC West. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

10-23-2021, 03:03 PM	#753
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	They seem to be the poster child, much more even than usual, for 'we're never all that impressive, but we just refuse to lose.' - meaning Oklahoma Last edited by Brian Swartz : 10-23-2021 at 03:03 PM.

10-23-2021, 03:06 PM	#754
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Forward progress stopped? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-23-2021, 03:09 PM	#755
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Yeah, that's some bullshit SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-23-2021, 03:28 PM	#757
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Kansas football was relevant today. That's an interesting development to be sure. Overtime for PSU and Ill. I'm sure we'll end up with an entirely appropriate final score for a game that is 10-10 through 60 minutes. I'm calling 27-24 PSU in triple OT.

10-23-2021, 03:40 PM	#759
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Geez. Wake-Army is the bananananananannas. 70-56. (no ot either) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-23-2021, 03:52 PM	#760
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	A kicker jump?

10-23-2021, 03:59 PM	#761
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	I'd rather have ties than a 2 point contest

10-23-2021, 04:00 PM	#762
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	I think the Illinois QB might have broke his arm,

10-23-2021, 04:03 PM	#763
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Can neither of these teams run an option?

10-23-2021, 04:04 PM	#765
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	This 2 point off is so dumb. Can't they just play another quarter?

10-23-2021, 04:05 PM	#766
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Illinois has run for over 300 yards and hasn't tried to run it once during this overtime nonsense

10-23-2021, 04:07 PM	#767
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	At least he caught that shovel pass.

10-23-2021, 04:10 PM	#768
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	New rule: If neither team scores after 7 OTs both teams lose

10-23-2021, 04:10 PM	#769
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	It was the game that never ends....it just goes on and on, my friends!!!...

10-23-2021, 04:16 PM	#770
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Finally, Illinois wins in 9 OT's.

10-23-2021, 04:16 PM	#771
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I didn't realize that was the rule change. I thought it had to do with going for 2 after you scored, not just going for 2. What a horrible rule from a gimmicky way to win/lose standpoint. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-23-2021, 04:18 PM	#772
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	AR won both of its 7 OT games 2001 AR vs Ole Miss (I watched that one) 2003 AR vs KY (missed this one)

10-23-2021, 04:20 PM	#774
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	I couldnt figure out how each team had a safety to make it 18-18. Stupid rule. B1G is either very overrated or very underrated. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

10-23-2021, 04:43 PM	#776
HerRealName College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	The Illinois/PSU game summary is hilarious on several levels. https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...reboard/BIG10/ My personal favorite is the Passing yardage by the winning team's QB.

10-23-2021, 06:04 PM	#779
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I don't think the LSU players have all quit, but the "coaching" staff sure appears to have done so. They haven't made an adjustment all day and it's starting to get them spanked. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

10-23-2021, 06:48 PM	#780
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Hard to believe how bad Clemson looks today. Getting physically manhandled and their skill players look so different from recent years. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-23-2021, 06:55 PM	#781
Vegas Vic Checkraising Tourists Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL	Iowa State fans chant “Overrated! Overrated!” and then storm the field after the favored Cyclones defeat Oklahoma State.

10-23-2021, 08:31 PM	#787
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	I feel like this is not a very engaging set of late games. __________________ null

10-23-2021, 08:33 PM	#788
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	OSU game not going well so far. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-23-2021, 10:09 PM	#790
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Bama just looks so beatable. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

10-24-2021, 11:21 AM	#792
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Kansas winning yesterday, after they even threw open the gates to let anyone and everyone in, would have merited storming the field SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 10-24-2021 at 11:21 AM.

10-24-2021, 02:41 PM	#793
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Yep, that's a good example of when it would be appropriate.

10-24-2021, 02:45 PM	#794
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Next week was going to be a huge one for the Big Ten; not so much now that Penn State lost again. Unless a different team shows up, it's hard to imagine them giving Ohio State much of a challenge. Michigan-MSU will at least tell us who the Buckeyes top challenger is in the East. Loser of that one could have a very rough finish to the season. Spartans closing schedule esp. is painful.

10-24-2021, 03:09 PM	#795
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Coastal Carolina stays in the Top 25 at #24 despite the loss this week __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

10-24-2021, 07:34 PM	#797
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Iowa State has little brother syndrome. I think a buch of college kids running onto the field after a big win is awesome. College kids celebrating what their classmates accomplished. I rushed the field numerous times, tore down goal posts, Got my picture on the front page of the Cedar Rapids Gazette on the cross bar. Great memories, __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

10-24-2021, 07:38 PM	#798
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I think Ohio State is probably going to make the playoffs and think they will have earned it if they win out, but I think they are rated too high given who their wins are over and that they have that loss. It also looks to me that an undefeated Cincy is going to need a lot of help to get in. Looking over the current top 10-15, it seems like a lot of other teams control their own destinies more so than they do. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-25-2021, 10:33 AM	#800
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Wisconsin opens as a 3-point favorite against Iowa. That ought to get tarcone fired up. Michigan favored by 4, that's at least in the right neighborhood although I see it more as a pick-em. I was curious what OSU-PSU would look like: OSU by 17.5. So they don't think that'll be much of a contest either.

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