The 2013 NBA Playoffs - Page 16

sterlingice · 06-20-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Young Drachma

Hell of a series, I have to say it.

Some of it was. For two teams that seemed evenly matched, 4 of the games were absolute dogs.

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EagleFan · 06-20-2013, 10:52 PM

That sucks, we may have watched the extinguishing of the last bit of team basketball in the NBA as the all-me all the time highlight junkies have taken over.

sterlingice · 06-20-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

That's really gotta suck for Tim Duncan. Not only do you miss the game tying bunny, but you get a piece of confetti stuck to your head going into the locker room.

I think he's done ok for himself

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JonInMiddleGA · 06-20-2013, 10:53 PM

Danny Green, just 8 points in the final two games.

EagleFan · 06-20-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Young Drachma

Hell of a series, I have to say it.

Not really, just a good games 1, 6 and 7. The others weren't close.

Even at that, much of game 7 was very sloppy so while it was close it wasn't great play.

Now the Stanley Cup finals, even though I don't care for either team, that has been one hell of a series so far with 3 of 4 games going to OT.

RedKingGold · 06-20-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

That sucks, we may have watched the extinguishing of the last bit of team basketball in the NBA as the all-me all the time highlight junkies have taken over.

It'll be anarchy! Dogs and cats living together!

Young Drachma · 06-20-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Not really, just a good games 1, 6 and 7. The others weren't close.

Even at that, much of game 7 was very sloppy so while it was close it wasn't great play.

Now the Stanley Cup finals, even though I don't care for either team, that has been one hell of a series so far with 3 of 4 games going to OT.

I always prefer hockey over basketball. And shrug. It was a battle between two evenly matched clubs and no, not perfectly executed ball but enough highlight moments to make it worthwhile.

Stanley Cup Finals this year, I don't care for either team either but it's a great series. But still, I liked the ending to this one. I only tuned in for the ends of 6 and most of 7, but it was generally worth it.

RedKingGold · 06-20-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

I think he's done ok for himself

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Sarcasm meter broken?

sterlingice · 06-20-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Now the Stanley Cup finals, even though I don't care for either team, that has been one hell of a series so far with 3 of 4 games going to OT.

And the other was a 2-0 game so it wasn't exactly a blowout, tho I don't know if Chicago would have scored a goal if that game had gone 120 minutes.

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Groundhog · 06-20-2013, 10:57 PM

I even enjoyed the blowouts of this series. Both teams did a good job of adjusting from games 1 through 6, where as tonight it was just a slugfest. As good as Lebron was in the 4th, it was really the shooting of Battier and the late game TOs of Manu that decided the game in the end.

Suicane75 · 06-20-2013, 10:57 PM

Now that that's over, and I don't feel like I'm needlessly shitting on anyones parade, I have to get this off my chest. The two games I watched, games 6 and 7, was some of the shittiest basketball I could have imagined seeing in an NBA finals. I have zero doubt in my mind that the 90's Bulls would have wiped the floor with either of these teams and the Suns, Jazz, Pacers, Knicks of that era would have probably won 75% the series they played against them.

Might as well just go 2 on 2 if that's what the game has become.

RedKingGold · 06-20-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Danny Green, just 8 points in the final two games.

...and they never saw him again.

SirFozzie · 06-20-2013, 10:57 PM

Get off my TV David Stern for the last time.

sterlingice · 06-20-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Sarcasm meter broken?

Probably. A bit tired so it's probably bedtime

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RedKingGold · 06-20-2013, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Now that that's over, and I don't feel like I'm needlessly shitting on anyones parade, I have to get this off my chest. The two games I watched, games 6 and 7, was some of the shittiest basketball I could have imagined seeing in an NBA finals. I have zero doubt in my mind that the 90's Bulls would have wiped the floor with either of these teams and the Suns, Jazz, Pacers, Knicks of that era would have probably won 75% the series they played against them.

Might as well just go 2 on 2 if that's what the game has become.

You're just an old fart. Back in my day, Jordan pulled a horse and buggy up the court with one leg, and still played solid defense.

yeah826 · 06-20-2013, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Now that that's over, and I don't feel like I'm needlessly shitting on anyones parade, I have to get this off my chest. The two games I watched, games 6 and 7, was some of the shittiest basketball I could have imagined seeing in an NBA finals. I have zero doubt in my mind that the 90's Bulls would have wiped the floor with either of these teams and the Suns, Jazz, Pacers, Knicks of that era would have probably won 75% the series they played against them.

Might as well just go 2 on 2 if that's what the game has become.

Keep telling yourself that Lebron just went ham on the Spurs and Im sure he can compete with those other teams you mentioned.

Groundhog · 06-20-2013, 10:59 PM

Green got about 3 open looks in the last 2 games. Great work by the Heat to shut him out... and with the way he put the ball on the floor tonight, he's clearly a spot-up shooter and little else.

Groundhog · 06-20-2013, 11:00 PM

A few brain-farts aside, Danny Green also played some good D.

Matthean · 06-20-2013, 11:08 PM

I was more impressed with Duncan in the series than anybody else really. Too bad Manu made a case for him betting on the Heat, and Green was one step above a corpse during the last two games. This felt maybe more like the Spurs lost it versus the Heat winning it. The boring part for me is that we all can vastly assume the Heat will do the seemingly mandatory three peat before things get interesting again. Outside of the occasional team to mix things up, the champs just seem like the champs on repeat. This is where the NFL gets it right.

Galaril · 06-20-2013, 11:16 PM

This fucking team is hard to like unless your are Miami fan. And sorry Lebron can keep telling himself whatever but he ain't no MJ.

Matthean · 06-20-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by yeah826

Keep telling yourself that Lebron just went ham on the Spurs and Im sure he can compete with those other teams you mentioned.

I think the Heat would do fine against a number of those teams. The difference with Chicago is the Heat would actually have to show up every game.

Simbo Klice · 06-20-2013, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Now that that's over, and I don't feel like I'm needlessly shitting on anyones parade, I have to get this off my chest. The two games I watched, games 6 and 7, was some of the shittiest basketball I could have imagined seeing in an NBA finals. I have zero doubt in my mind that the 90's Bulls would have wiped the floor with either of these teams and the Suns, Jazz, Pacers, Knicks of that era would have probably won 75% the series they played against them.

Might as well just go 2 on 2 if that's what the game has become.

I feel the opposite way, the NBA and NFL have both evolved dramatically since the late 90's. I don't feel like Jordan's Bulls would be a threat to the Heat or Spurs of this year. Of course, there's no real way of proving that one way or the other.

Noop · 06-20-2013, 11:28 PM

Legend. Best player in this era and definite top 3 of all time.

Matthean · 06-20-2013, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Simbo Klice

I feel the opposite way, the NBA and NFL have both evolved dramatically since the late 90's. I don't feel like Jordan's Bulls would be a threat to the Heat or Spurs of this year. Of course, there's no real way of proving that one way or the other.

I'm pretty sure Phil Jackson could coach in this league right now. I can't imagine a team with Jordan not being up to the task. The dude never needed a Game 7.

Neon_Chaos · 06-20-2013, 11:30 PM

I Feel bad for TD. No title and now a divorce to look forward to

Noop · 06-20-2013, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I'm pretty sure Phil Jackson could coach in this league right now. I can't imagine a team with Jordan not being up to the task. The dude never needed a Game 7.

So by beating a dynasty in 7 diminishes what the Heat have done?

miami_fan · 06-20-2013, 11:39 PM

Time to update the signature

Noop · 06-20-2013, 11:44 PM

He is legend and I feel bad for how this game ended for him. He appeared to be crushed.

Crapshoot · 06-20-2013, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Now that that's over, and I don't feel like I'm needlessly shitting on anyones parade, I have to get this off my chest. The two games I watched, games 6 and 7, was some of the shittiest basketball I could have imagined seeing in an NBA finals. I have zero doubt in my mind that the 90's Bulls would have wiped the floor with either of these teams and the Suns, Jazz, Pacers, Knicks of that era would have probably won 75% the series they played against them.

Might as well just go 2 on 2 if that's what the game has become.

Respectfully, this sounds like the typical back in my day, when men were men, and everyone walked 6 miles uphill type of speech. Lebron is one of the greatest of all time - the level of competition only gets better, not worse.

Crapshoot · 06-20-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I'm pretty sure Phil Jackson could coach in this league right now. I can't imagine a team with Jordan not being up to the task. The dude never needed a Game 7.

Here's my problem - this is nothing but conjecture, with a premise that is entirely made up. Jordan is the greatest player of all time and won every title when paired with another guy who was one of the 50 greatest of all time- your threshold for Lebron is that he should be better than that already? Seriously?

miami_fan · 06-20-2013, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

Nah, I respect the Spurs. I just feel that there's so much over-the-top criticism of the Heat (and specifically Lebron) that it gets a little silly. If Miami loses tonight, everyone in the national media is going to say that Miami "has to" break up the big 3 and do something different. Yet, this team has made it to 3 straight finals, one title and a game 7 at home.

No one says that Indiana needs to "blow it up" after getting beat two straight playoffs by the Heat or that Memphis needs to make massive changes after losing to the Spurs or even that the Thunder need to redo their roster after falling short in two straight playoffs. I also doubt that if SA loses tonight that the media will be like "well, they need to trade Manu and Duncan to get more help for Parker - he can't do it all himself".

Yet, with the Heat, people can't wait to try to break them up and have that team make massive changes - even though they've been by far the most successful NBA team the past 3 seasons (and it's not even close).

Sensible.

miami_fan · 06-20-2013, 11:58 PM

Oh yeah and the Heat finally won two games in a row.

RainMaker · 06-21-2013, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Here's my problem - this is nothing but conjecture, with a premise that is entirely made up. Jordan is the greatest player of all time and won every title when paired with another guy who was one of the 50 greatest of all time- your threshold for Lebron is that he should be better than that already? Seriously?

Lebron did lose a title with a couple stars, including a player better than Pippen just a couple years ago.

Danny · 06-21-2013, 12:36 AM

Lebrun is best player in the league but he still has a long way to go to come close to Jordan

Radii · 06-21-2013, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Legend. Best player in this era and definite top 3 of all time.

Maybe give him a few more years and a couple more titles for this? If his career ended today, Jordan, Russell and Kobe are my top three in that order. Again if his career ended today, then I'll create a second group with two players that were out there tonight, Lebron and Tim Duncan, add in Magic and Bird, and possibly Oscar Robertson and Kareem and have a fun debate about 4-9 between them.

I'm not knocking Lebron here, just saw "top 3 all time" mentioned and thought "oooo, lets make lists"

Karlifornia · 06-21-2013, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

That sucks, we may have watched the extinguishing of the last bit of team basketball in the NBA as the all-me all the time highlight junkies have taken over.

You do realize LeBron took a pay cut to join the Heat, right? You may just be very bitter and very out of touch with reality.

miami_fan · 06-21-2013, 05:09 AM

The Miami Heat's championship appeal - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN

RainMaker · 06-21-2013, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

You do realize LeBron took a pay cut to join the Heat, right? You may just be very bitter and very out of touch with reality.

I think he's more referring to the AAU mentality. Players as mercenaries who care only about themselves. Team accomplishments are only important if they boost someone's personal marketing appeal. This isn't a Heat championship, it's a Lebron championship. I don't think some of those players give two shits about the city or team.

That's not a knock on them, this is a business after all and there is a lot of money at stake. There is a reason why Tim Duncan and Tony Parker aren't in 20 commercials apiece and selling millions of shoes. They don't play that game. But I see the appeal as fans who want to root for players who talk about how "we" won a title instead of how "I" won a title.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-21-2013, 05:31 AM

Sounds like a great game. Too bad it started so late that I fell asleep early in the 3rd quarter.

Lathum · 06-21-2013, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Duncan makes a shot... he turns and runs back on defense like a professional.

LePunk makes a shot, he has to stand and pose... look at me.... look at me.... douchebag.

you couldn't sound anymore like an out of touch middle aged white guy

Matthean · 06-21-2013, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Lebron did lose a title with a couple stars, including a player better than Pippen just a couple years ago.

This. I don't expect LeBron to outdo Jordan. I don't think he's the equivalent either. The Heat treated the playoffs like they could simply show up when they needed to. The Bulls were actively trying to beat you every time.

Noop · 06-21-2013, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Maybe give him a few more years and a couple more titles for this? If his career ended today, Jordan, Russell and Kobe are my top three in that order. Again if his career ended today, then I'll create a second group with two players that were out there tonight, Lebron and Tim Duncan, add in Magic and Bird, and possibly Oscar Robertson and Kareem and have a fun debate about 4-9 between them.

I'm not knocking Lebron here, just saw "top 3 all time" mentioned and thought "oooo, lets make lists"

The fact that you would put Kobe in the top 3 makes me not want to argue with you. Kobe won 3 championships with one of the most dominant centers ever.

Lathum · 06-21-2013, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Noop

The fact that you would put Kobe in the top 3 makes me not want to argue with you. Kobe won 3 championships with one of the most dominant centers ever.

It is an argument people can have until they are blue in the face. The thing that cracks me up about Kobe, is while he is amazing, he never won shit without all stars around him either, yet people kill LeBron for the same thing.

I think I would put Duncan ahead of Kobe TBH, he was the best player on his team for every title and at 37 still plays at an amazing level.

heybrad · 06-21-2013, 07:11 AM

I think Chris Bosh should go down as the most unselfish player in NBA history since he realized he should allow Lebron and Wade to do all the scoring and not score a single point himself. Well done Chris Bosh!!!

Logan · 06-21-2013, 07:20 AM

LOL at Kobe over LeBron.

Easy Mac · 06-21-2013, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I think he's more referring to the AAU mentality. Players as mercenaries who care only about themselves. Team accomplishments are only important if they boost someone's personal marketing appeal. This isn't a Heat championship, it's a Lebron championship. I don't think some of those players give two shits about the city or team.

That's not a knock on them, this is a business after all and there is a lot of money at stake. There is a reason why Tim Duncan and Tony Parker aren't in 20 commercials apiece and selling millions of shoes. They don't play that game. But I see the appeal as fans who want to root for players who talk about how "we" won a title instead of how "I" won a title.

Yeah, cheating on your movie star wife with your teammates wife totally makes you a better person and teammate than a guy who does commercials.

Noop · 06-21-2013, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

It is an argument people can have until they are blue in the face. The thing that cracks me up about Kobe, is while he is amazing, he never won shit without all stars around him either, yet people kill LeBron for the same thing.

I think I would put Duncan ahead of Kobe TBH, he was the best player on his team for every title and at 37 still plays at an amazing level.

Correct observation.

murrayyyyy · 06-21-2013, 09:07 AM

Way too many things to quote in here but quick answers...

Jordan did play when it was 5 games in the first round... which he had to play in twice.

Jordan didn't win without Pippen, Jackson didn't win without Jordan, Pippen, Shaq or Kobe... Magic had Kareem, Worthy. Heck even Duncan had Parker or Robinson. But James is an ass for having Wade?

James has played in 4 of the last 7 NBA finals at the age of 28 in a league with more talent in the league than Jordan ever saw. That's the ocmparsion you should make to Jordan. James has plenty of years to add to his totals. Jordan said two years ago it's all about rings (which must mean that Russell is twice the player he was).

James now has more NBA finals triple doubles than Jordan for those keeping count. Only trails Magic now.

Team basketball died last night? Who made this horrible statement? You do realize that the Heat had more assists 6 out of 7 games in this series? Is there another measurement for team basketball than pure hatred for James?

Kodos · 06-21-2013, 09:07 AM

Very disappointed for Duncan. He is a class act. Would have loved to see him get another title.

Lathum · 06-21-2013, 09:15 AM

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Very disappointed for Duncan. He is a class act, on the court. Would have loved to see him get another title.

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Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I even enjoyed the blowouts of this series. Both teams did a good job of adjusting from games 1 through 6, where as tonight it was just a slugfest. As good as Lebron was in the 4th, it was really the shooting of Battier and the late game TOs of Manu that decided the game in the end. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

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06-20-2013, 10:59 PM	#767
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Green got about 3 open looks in the last 2 games. Great work by the Heat to shut him out... and with the way he put the ball on the floor tonight, he's clearly a spot-up shooter and little else. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-20-2013, 10:57 PM	#761
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Now that that's over, and I don't feel like I'm needlessly shitting on anyones parade, I have to get this off my chest. The two games I watched, games 6 and 7, was some of the shittiest basketball I could have imagined seeing in an NBA finals. I have zero doubt in my mind that the 90's Bulls would have wiped the floor with either of these teams and the Suns, Jazz, Pacers, Knicks of that era would have probably won 75% the series they played against them. Might as well just go 2 on 2 if that's what the game has become.

06-20-2013, 11:00 PM	#768
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06-20-2013, 11:08 PM	#769
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	I was more impressed with Duncan in the series than anybody else really. Too bad Manu made a case for him betting on the Heat, and Green was one step above a corpse during the last two games. This felt maybe more like the Spurs lost it versus the Heat winning it. The boring part for me is that we all can vastly assume the Heat will do the seemingly mandatory three peat before things get interesting again. Outside of the occasional team to mix things up, the champs just seem like the champs on repeat. This is where the NFL gets it right. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

06-20-2013, 11:16 PM	#770
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	This fucking team is hard to like unless your are Miami fan. And sorry Lebron can keep telling himself whatever but he ain't no MJ. Last edited by Galaril : 06-20-2013 at 11:17 PM.

06-20-2013, 11:28 PM	#773
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06-20-2013, 11:58 PM	#782
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Oh yeah and the Heat finally won two games in a row. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

06-21-2013, 12:36 AM	#784
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Lebrun is best player in the league but he still has a long way to go to come close to Jordan

06-21-2013, 05:09 AM	#787
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	The Miami Heat's championship appeal - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

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06-21-2013, 07:11 AM	#794
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	I think Chris Bosh should go down as the most unselfish player in NBA history since he realized he should allow Lebron and Wade to do all the scoring and not score a single point himself. Well done Chris Bosh!!!

06-21-2013, 07:20 AM	#795
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	LOL at Kobe over LeBron.

06-21-2013, 09:07 AM	#798
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Way too many things to quote in here but quick answers... Jordan did play when it was 5 games in the first round... which he had to play in twice. Jordan didn't win without Pippen, Jackson didn't win without Jordan, Pippen, Shaq or Kobe... Magic had Kareem, Worthy. Heck even Duncan had Parker or Robinson. But James is an ass for having Wade? James has played in 4 of the last 7 NBA finals at the age of 28 in a league with more talent in the league than Jordan ever saw. That's the ocmparsion you should make to Jordan. James has plenty of years to add to his totals. Jordan said two years ago it's all about rings (which must mean that Russell is twice the player he was). James now has more NBA finals triple doubles than Jordan for those keeping count. Only trails Magic now. Team basketball died last night? Who made this horrible statement? You do realize that the Heat had more assists 6 out of 7 games in this series? Is there another measurement for team basketball than pure hatred for James? Last edited by murrayyyyy : 06-21-2013 at 09:14 AM.

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