01-23-2024, 11:46 AM | #801 |
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They overnight are going to shift to every story being about Biden or Trump dropping out of the race because of health, mental issues, legal issues, etc...
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01-23-2024, 12:51 PM | #802 |
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All they have to do then is let them talk and record it.
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01-23-2024, 12:51 PM | #803 | |
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01-23-2024, 01:12 PM | #804 |
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I really can't see anything generating the excitement of a regular presidential campaign. Trump can say anything at this point, and still won't be crazier than anything he has already said. Biden could set himself on fire, and he still won't garner the attention of Trump. Really, it is mostly courtroom drama at this point that will be the ratings driver, and even that more and more looks like it will be pushed till after the election.
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01-23-2024, 01:48 PM | #805 |
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01-23-2024, 01:51 PM | #806 | |
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Well why wouldn't they? I mean, getting a fucking worthless two faced p.o.s. like Haley to be the November alternative to Biden is a wet dream for the lunatic left. They win either way.
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01-23-2024, 01:54 PM | #807 | |
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01-23-2024, 02:00 PM | #808 | |
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Pretty much ever poll, for what it is worth, has Haley destroying Biden. |
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01-23-2024, 02:22 PM | #809 |
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Yeah I don't think it's about 'they want Haley because Biden'll win' kind of thing for the media, I think they just want the drama and controversy of a competitive primary. It's rare that we don't get that for one side or the other, occasionally both.
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01-23-2024, 03:02 PM | #810 |
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I'm actively considering not following the news at all until after the election.
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01-23-2024, 03:46 PM | #811 |
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Already there. It's just not worth it.
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01-23-2024, 04:33 PM | #812 |
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01-23-2024, 05:40 PM | #813 |
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CNN interviewing a Trump supporter. Lady says she supports Trump because when he says he is going to do something he has a plan for doing it. The alternate reality these people live in is staggering.
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01-23-2024, 05:41 PM | #814 |
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dola- all these networks are trying to hard to make it seem like it could be close somehow. They are twisting themselves into a pretzel with ways it can happen.
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01-23-2024, 05:46 PM | #815 |
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The people with the exit polls on Twitter doing the same thing. Lots of "she could win" vibes going.
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01-23-2024, 05:55 PM | #816 |
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Even if she won (she won't), New Hampshire is a tiny, weird state that does not reflect the electorate all that much.
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01-23-2024, 06:06 PM | #817 | |
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What a lot of them are saying, and I do not agree, is that if Haley wins NH it somehow will show the GOP Trump isn't invincible and she will pick up momentum and chance the tide. |
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01-23-2024, 06:09 PM | #818 |
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01-23-2024, 06:09 PM | #819 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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If she gets within 15 points I'd be surprised. Not shocked since it's NH, but surprised. And agree that NH doesn't mean much for how the rest of the GOP will vote.
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01-23-2024, 06:11 PM | #820 |
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I don't think even Haley has delusions of winning the primary. She's just in it to be the "told you so" candidate if Trump loses. Puts her in a decent spot for 2028.
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01-23-2024, 06:23 PM | #821 |
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Her winning New Hampshire would keep her in the money to keep running till South Carolina. If she pulled off an upset there (that is a fully open primary), it could snowball. More likely though is if she wins or comes close here, the MAGA people are going to become hyper-energized and she loses South Carolina even worse than she would have before. Iowa numbers were pretty low. A win here would guarantee huge MAGA turnout in South Carolina.
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01-23-2024, 06:53 PM | #822 |
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Shes toast. You can see it all over Kornakis face. I'm sure the higher ups are telling him not to point out the obvious but you can see it all over him.
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01-23-2024, 07:04 PM | #823 |
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Wasserman called it at 7:20, the AP and NYT around 8.
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01-23-2024, 07:18 PM | #824 |
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CNN just called it
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01-23-2024, 07:21 PM | #825 |
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This sounds an awful lot like a concession speech from Haley
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01-23-2024, 07:37 PM | #826 |
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Joe Biden won the Democratic Primary even though he wasn't on the ballot.
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01-23-2024, 08:26 PM | #827 |
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Trump taking a few shots at Chris Sununu and getting booed pretty badly for it.
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01-23-2024, 09:27 PM | #828 |
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She did better than I expected, but if she can't win in NH there's no plausible path forward. How long will her donors fund her vanity campaign?
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01-23-2024, 09:36 PM | #829 |
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dola
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01-23-2024, 10:10 PM | #830 | |
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01-23-2024, 11:21 PM | #831 |
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Still rooting for you Nikki. Hope you stick it out at least through Feb 3.
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01-24-2024, 07:52 AM | #833 |
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Notice the couple of things she left out - the "who's" and "what's."
If I'm reading between the lines, maybe she meant that perhaps DeSantis wasn't giving her as cruel and/or entertaining a list of "who's" and "what's" as Trump.
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01-24-2024, 11:05 AM | #834 |
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I like all the articles that say how this is Trump's party now. Like, has that not been obvious for a better part of a decade? If anything Haley outperformed expectations last night
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01-24-2024, 11:18 AM | #835 |
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That being said, I think there's a non-insignificant amount of Haley donors who are funding this on the miniscule .000001% chance she might push to the end to build enough of a brand for a third party run. I actually think Christie would have been the perfect person for that, but I think there are some hoping she'd risk career suicide (or real murder) to do it.
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01-24-2024, 11:18 AM | #836 |
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There's definitely an inner circle mentality who have been watching numbers closely for some time, and for whom the actual outcome amounts to just a minor refinement of built-in expectations. That's me, and many in this thread. Of course Trump won... perhaps by a shade less than I might have guessed, but of course he won.
My wife is one of the TONS of people, including many who are at least fairly politically engaged, who just aren't into data or deep dive news analysis. She sat on twitter well into the night night watching the incremental NH results come in, speculating how Haley might be able to get there... at 7% reporting then 18%, and 26% and so on, without end. I told her when Wasserman said "I've seen enough" that I had seen enough (and that I didn't care what the final margin was), but she was there 'til the bitter end thinking Trump could lose if only those last (100-x)% of the NH voters could come through. And, I'll insist, she's neither a dummy nor an outlier. Actual events still really shape impressions, no matter how much as the data-embedded-class like us can't imagine that. So, I'm predicting that the real determinant whether she continues won't be her desire to spend more time with the family, or her personal belief that she can still win, it will be... as it always is... money. And a loss in NH means the money will dry up. Her not even contesting Nevada is baked in for us, but will sound like news to others. She's toast, and I think it's honestly likely she lose funding to where she won't even be able to remain credibly active through her home state SC primary. |
01-24-2024, 11:25 AM | #837 |
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Superpayaseria Crystalroc will be on the ballot in Nevada.
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01-24-2024, 02:20 PM | #839 |
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Jon Stewart is returning to host the Daily Show on Mondays through this election cycle. So that's good.
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01-24-2024, 04:14 PM | #840 | |
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01-24-2024, 04:39 PM | #841 |
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Based on the decline in air incidents over the past 20 years, DEI has been an incredible success and we should all be thankful.
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01-24-2024, 06:27 PM | #842 |
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In fairness, Trump lists his health care plans on his site (you probably won't like the plans). Biden doesn't even bother with having an issues section anymore. Just selling dark Brandon coffee or whatever. You can complain that Trump voters don't care about actual issues, but the Democrats aren't even pretending to care. |
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Not great news for Biden here. Curious to see what role RFK Jr plays with the youth vote and whether Biden's losses are going to Trump or end up with RFK Jr or just not voting at all.
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01-24-2024, 07:40 PM | #844 |
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The poll oversampled people over 45 by 3-5% with that MOE favoring Biden almost 2 to 1.
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01-24-2024, 07:42 PM | #845 |
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01-25-2024, 07:44 AM | #846 |
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01-25-2024, 09:21 AM | #848 |
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It's just going to be so humiliating when Haley endorses Trump.
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01-25-2024, 09:41 AM | #850 |
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A young Trump supporter was kicked out of Trump's victory celebration after he posted a picture of himself and Alina Habba at the party.
Earlier that day Habba had told a judge she was sick and needed to take precautions after a covid exposure so the trial was postponed. I can't wait to hear what the judge says about this.
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