The Official 2014 NFL Draft Thread

[stevew]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I agree 100%.

But if the goal is truly acceptance, and not simply trying to make a point, then why the media push?

Frankly Id have been offended if I was forced to watch JFF and his hot ass GF face paint each other with cake. Its just, TO ME, not appropriate for a sports broadcast.

What number is Watkins wearing? I was thinking of getting a jersey. I'd assume he would chose 12, but that's not an option. 13 or 16 would be options, but they just traded #13 so 16?

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by stevew

What number is Watkins wearing? I was thinking of getting a jersey. I'd assume he would chose 12, but that's not an option. 13 or 16 would be options, but they just traded #13 so 16?

Dont know.
Hadnt thought about it.

Just sent a text message to someone who should know ...Ill let ya know what I hear

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by stevew

What number is Watkins wearing? I was thinking of getting a jersey. I'd assume he would chose 12, but that's not an option. 13 or 16 would be options, but they just traded #13 so 16?

If they just traded #13 wouldn't that make #13 available?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I agree 100%.

But if the goal is truly acceptance, and not simply trying to make a point, then why the media push?

Frankly Id have been offended if I was forced to watch JFF and his hot ass GF face paint each other with cake. Its just, TO ME, not appropriate for a sports broadcast.

Okay maybe I'm dense. Who is JFF?

[chadritt]

Manziel.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Okay maybe I'm dense. Who is JFF?

fwiw, I didn't have the slightest idea either.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

If they just traded #13 wouldn't that make #13 available?

Generally you wouldn't replace a guy in a popular jersey with another guy wearing that exact same number. Or I'd think not, who knows.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by chadritt

Manziel.

As in Johnny Fucking Football?

Jeebus people, it's okay to be liberal with actual words. Not everyone is in the Secret Acronym Club.

(p.s. not aimed at chadritt, thank you chadritt)

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by stevew

Generally you wouldn't replace a guy in a popular jersey with another guy wearing that exact same number. Or I'd think not, who knows.

I can see the reasoning but was Stevie J really all that popular? He hasn't really done anything in three years. Not like Aaron Rodgers saying I'll take #4, had he done so.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I agree. I thought it was over the top and very staged.

Perhaps, but as I said on FB, it's still a very powerful image on a lot of levels, and for a lot of gay people, especially youth who may be struggling with their sexual orientation for any number of reasons, seeing something like that can be damned inspiring, motivational, and hope-granting.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Perhaps, but as I said on FB, it's still a very powerful image on a lot of levels, and for a lot of gay people, especially youth who may be struggling with their sexual orientation for any number of reasons, seeing something like that can be damned inspiring, motivational, and hope-granting.

+1

Excessive displays of emotion aren't my thing. But nothing ESPN has done in at least a decade has been. Let the folks have their moment in the sun, they've waited a really long time.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Perhaps, but as I said on FB, it's still a very powerful image on a lot of levels, and for a lot of gay people, especially youth who may be struggling with their sexual orientation for any number of reasons, seeing something like that can be damned inspiring, motivational, and hope-granting.

Originally Posted by BillJasper

+1

Excessive displays of emotion aren't my thing. But nothing ESPN has done in at least a decade has been. Let the folks have their moment in the sun, they've waited a really long time.

I just thought it was way over the top and staged.

I am as pro gay rights as you can be. I have a cousin who is gay, her and her wife have been together for years and have 2 black children, one adopted on in vetrio, covers the whole diversity spectrum. I love them to death and think they deserve every right I have in this world.

I was fine with the kiss nd the extra time given them that normaly wouldn't be spent on a 7th round pick, but if you don't think they drew it out and started forcing a moment with the cake, etc...then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[mrtourette]

And damn right they should have forced it, the more that the kind of mouthbreathers who object to this sort of thing are exposed to it and realise that it's just someone kissing someone else then maybe all the bullshit that surrounds it will die down.

When such an event becomes 'just another display of emotion' then I think it will be job done and should be as widely derided as the usual tears and hugs and 'thank you jesus' moments, but that's far from the case and I applaud the networks for actually showing it.

All we needed was Tim Tebow in the sudio being asked for his comment.

[Butter]

Am I the only one who mostly watched the draft via NFL Network? They spent a little bit of time on it as the draft was coming to a close, and had a nice adult conversation about it and then moved on.

General thought was "if Sam's dream is to be thought of as just another football player, then let's give him his wish and treat him like just another football player". They did spend some time on it, and did show his reaction, but I didn't even know that ESPN showed a kiss because NFLN only showed a little bit of his reaction shot.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I can see the reasoning but was Stevie J really all that popular? He hasn't really done anything in three years. Not like Aaron Rodgers saying I'll take #4, had he done so.

He was huge for them

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

As in Johnny Fucking Football?

Jeebus people, it's okay to be liberal with actual words. Not everyone is in the Secret Acronym Club.

(p.s. not aimed at chadritt, thank you chadritt)

Sorry.
I hate typing and will abbreviate wherever I can. and JFF has been a mainsty on college fb boards for over a year now.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by stevew

What number is Watkins wearing? I was thinking of getting a jersey. I'd assume he would chose 12, but that's not an option. 13 or 16 would be options, but they just traded #13 so 16?

Looks like a decision hasnt been made. But there is a conversation around Watkins, Hopkins and Bryant all wearing the same number. (So maybe #10....no idea if thats available for ClE or PIT just know Nuk wore it last year)

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Looks like a decision hasnt been made. But there is a conversation around Watkins, Hopkins and Bryant all wearing the same number. (So maybe #10....no idea if thats available for ClE or PIT just know Nuk wore it last year)

stevew, your Kordell jersey has a 2nd life!

[mrtourette]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Am I the only one who mostly watched the draft via NFL Network? They spent a little bit of time on it as the draft was coming to a close, and had a nice adult conversation about it and then moved on.

General thought was "if Sam's dream is to be thought of as just another football player, then let's give him his wish and treat him like just another football player". They did spend some time on it, and did show his reaction, but I didn't even know that ESPN showed a kiss because NFLN only showed a little bit of his reaction shot.

Yeah I watched it on NFLN, didnlt see the Sam selection so I only read about the kiss on Deadspin.

[sterlingice]

Wait? So you're saying that ESPN played this up so they can milk it for a couple more days of coverage? I'm shocked! It's almost as if they have a monetary interest in skewing their coverage a certain stupid way.

Spoiler

But keep the outrage coming; that's totally not fueling their fire.

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Wait? So you're saying that ESPN played this up so they can milk it for a couple more days of coverage?

Well don't just blame ESPN,it was the lead item on the AP wire's sports coverage last night as well.

Agendas, yadda yadda.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Oh, as for the whole ESPN vs NFLN thing, the only way I knew about the incident was because it was hyped here at the FOFC.

[Subby]

Two guys kissing after one of them is drafted in the NFL is an historic moment. Showing an historic moment over and over is completely reasonable and should be expected from a 24 hour news/entertainment channel. None of it seemed staged - it all seemed completely genuine.

Draft cake seemed weird, but I am a staunch supporter of cake for any special occasion.

/goes to eat I just posted cake

[Sun Tzu]

I hope one of Jon's kids comes out as being gay.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Subby

Two guys kissing after one of them is drafted in the NFL is an historic moment. Showing an historic moment over and over is completely reasonable and should be expected from a 24 hour news/entertainment channel. None of it seemed staged - it all seemed completely genuine.

Draft cake seemed weird, but I am a staunch supporter of cake for any special occasion.

/goes to eat I just posted cake

Pie over cake AINEC.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I hope one of Jon's kids comes out as being gay.

Didn't we go through this already? Or was that somebody else?

And, just FTR, I'm done with having kids so you missed your wish.

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Didn't we go through this already? Or was that somebody else?

And, just FTR, I'm done with having kids so you missed your wish.

I'm guessing that was somebody else, but I do find it funny that other people have wished for the same thing

When I said "come out" I didn't mean birth. I meant "come out" as in tell the world about their sexuality.

[DaddyTorgo]

It was me.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

It was me.

{nods} Yeah, I was thinking that sounded familiar.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I hope one of Jon's kids comes out as being gay.

I tend to agree with the person (not Jon) who reported this as trolling. One week.

[Subby]

Why would you wish anything but health and happiness for someone else's kid?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

When I said "come out" I didn't mean birth. I meant "come out" as in tell the world about their sexuality.

His taste in women is pretty well established at this point (and is he ever picky, sheesh). I'm pretty sure you're gonna wind up disappointed.

Jokes aside, that's some hateful shit to be wishing on somebody but hey, if that's how you roll then knock yourself out I reckon.

[nol]

Complain all you want about the coverage, but nothing will happen unless you stand up for your rights as a straight male and take action!

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[flounder]

Maybe it's just me, but I would rather watch two guys making out than Skip Bayless talking. In fact, I'd rather watch that than the vast majority of ESPN's programming.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by flounder

Maybe it's just me, but I would rather watch two guys making out than Skip Bayless talking. In fact, I'd rather watch that than the vast majority of ESPN's programming.

And there's a lot of things I'd rather watch than Skip Bayless (verb)ing. It's the rich Venn Diagram that is our lives

SI

[Danny]

Originally Posted by flounder

Maybe it's just me, but I would rather watch two guys making out than Skip Bayless talking. In fact, I'd rather watch that than the vast majority of ESPN's programming.

Well Skip talking is basically making out with himself, so are you saying you have an issue with asexuals? I find that a bit offensive

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

{nods} Yeah, I was thinking that sounded familiar.

Think we were in one of our heated periods then. And I'm not sure I used those exact words, more like I put it out there as a hypothetical.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Subby

Two guys kissing after one of them is drafted in the NFL is an historic moment. Showing an historic moment over and over is completely reasonable and should be expected from a 24 hour news/entertainment channel. None of it seemed staged - it all seemed completely genuine.

Draft cake seemed weird, but I am a staunch supporter of cake for any special occasion.

/goes to eat I just posted cake

Historic moment? Nah, nobody will remember Michael Sam or "the kiss" ten years from now.

[flounder]

Originally Posted by Danny

Well Skip talking is basically making out with himself, so are you saying you have an issue with asexuals? I find that a bit offensive

Sorry, but that's just the way I feel. If God had wanted people to act like Skip Bayless, he would have given us all massive brain damage. ESPN can force the moron agenda on us, but it doesn't make it moral.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Think we were in one of our heated periods then. And I'm not sure I used those exact words, more like I put it out there as a hypothetical.

You two have periods?
Together????


Ewwwww.....

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by flounder

Maybe it's just me, but I would rather watch two guys making out than Skip Bayless talking. In fact, I'd rather watch that than the vast majority of ESPN's programming.

+1

[Easy Mac]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

If I get this game on Steam, I will consider any new feature suggested by customers.

TCY had gay players, by the way. No one ever noticed.

That explains why my SEC all defensive linemen always fall in imported drafts.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

You two have periods?
Together????
Ewwwww.....

I believe I can disprove that one easily enough:

Imagine, if you will, how big a bitch I'd be in that scenario.

Do you really think for a second that would not be something that would be the subject of dire government warnings about the need to take seek shelter immediately?

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by Subby

Why would you wish anything but health and happiness for someone else's kid?

He wished him to be gay. Gay people can be happy and healthy, especially if their family and friends are tolerant!

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Imagine, if you will, how big a bitch I'd be in that scenario.

I am really, really, really glad that I swallowed the water I was drinking *before* I read this post.

[Subby]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Historic moment? Nah, nobody will remember Michael Sam or "the kiss" ten years from now.

I'll remember it and I would be willing to bet lots of other folks will, too. It was a groundbreaking moment. Unless a ton of other professional football players have kissed their boyfriends on national television and I happened to miss it.

[Kodos]

To paraphrase a quote from the best Simpson's episode (Homer's Phobia):

"Now we can never say only straight people have been in this league."

[Subby]

Originally Posted by Marmel

He wished him to be gay. Gay people can be happy and healthy, especially if their family and friends are tolerant!

Oh please. We are all just varying degrees of miserable.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by flounder

Sorry, but that's just the way I feel. If God had wanted people to act like Skip Bayless, he would have given us all massive brain damage. ESPN can force the moron agenda on us, but it doesn't make it moral.

I LOL'd

SI

[Kodos]