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Old 12-10-2008, 08:48 PM   #51
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Must remember: Only last game could I edit posts.... Saw the typo and started to click edit and then remembered I can't do that on this side.

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Old 12-10-2008, 09:17 PM   #52
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Checking in, deadline is bad for me too and I'll have to make a vote and keep it there tonight and other nights.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:36 PM   #53
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Vote Lathum

No reason at this point, but may switch before I end up having to leave for work tomorrow.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:49 PM   #54
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:21 PM   #55
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VOTE JACKAL

I realized I will not be around at all tomorrow (going to Madison for a peer group meeting) so I should get my self-defense vote in now. Go villagers go
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:46 PM   #56
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unvote PF

vote EF

i'm not a wolf guys, this won't help
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:20 AM   #57
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Jackal, care to make a case for why? Or give us another option?

I am leaning toward a vote on you, too, although, as with all Day One votes, there's little behind it (I'll admit). So it's not like I can't be swung another way, but that's where I am leaning right now.

I will be on the morning before the deadline comes.
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:25 AM   #58
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:55 AM   #59
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Have to get a vote in before I disappear for the day. I'll let the rest of you decide how Day 1 plays out and hopefully have better luck with participation starting with Day 2.

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Old 12-11-2008, 08:11 AM   #60
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Old 12-11-2008, 08:43 AM   #61
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That sucks. Was going to move my vote but now hoops has pretty much taken that option away from me.
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:20 AM   #62
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I'm leaving until well after deadline. I'm going to keep my vote where it is for today as I don't feel compelled to keep piling onto EF or the Jackal.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:36 PM   #63
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VOTE EAGLEFAN

really just a toss up day one vote, but someone has to break the tie.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:38 PM   #64
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dola- I will add I find it interesting Danny not moving his vote, it's almost like he wants to avoid any scrutiny.

People who vote for candidate C when it is pretty clear there is gonna be a runoff between candidates A and B always strike me as suspiscous.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:38 PM   #65
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:47 PM   #66
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EF, Jackal and anyone else around.

My vote isn't set in stone, I am always looking for a reason for a day 1 vote, no matter how small.

Danny's vote may give me that reason, I would be willing to move to him and at the very least I think he makes a good seer scan candidate.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:10 PM   #67
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I have nothing substantial against EF, like I said it was just self-defense since people piled on me for no reason other than a first day vote.

I'm fine with keeping an eye on Danny
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:10 PM   #68
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dola- I will add I find it interesting Danny not moving his vote, it's almost like he wants to avoid any scrutiny.

People who vote for candidate C when it is pretty clear there is gonna be a runoff between candidates A and B always strike me as suspiscous.
Personally, I like to cast my vote and leave it there. D1 is such a crapshoot that trying to decide between two people, of whom I have very little read, seems poor. So if people hadn't coalesced around EF, but instead someone else, my vote would be solitary and out there.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:12 PM   #69
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I'm not really seeing any motivation to change my vote really. Right now we know nothing on anyone, any change would just be another blind guess.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:12 PM   #70
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Personally, I like to cast my vote and leave it there. D1 is such a crapshoot that trying to decide between two people, of whom I have very little read, seems poor. So if people hadn't coalesced around EF, but instead someone else, my vote would be solitary and out there.

IMO that makes you look like you don't want that vote anilyzed later in the game.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:16 PM   #71
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Personally, I like to cast my vote and leave it there. D1 is such a crapshoot that trying to decide between two people, of whom I have very little read, seems poor. So if people hadn't coalesced around EF, but instead someone else, my vote would be solitary and out there.

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I'm not really seeing any motivation to change my vote really. Right now we know nothing on anyone, any change would just be another blind guess.

fair enough, just thought I would get some discussion going
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:39 PM   #72
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Looks like I'm screwed anyway so I might as well:

unvote The Jackal

vote Lathum

He has made the "deciding" vote so far so that's as good a reasn as any, especially since that deciding vote was against a villager. I guess if it has to be a bad day one lynch vote it might as well be me, I have no role so at least the village isn't losing a roled member. I'll take one for the team.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:43 PM   #73
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Sorry but somebody had to break the tie, I am fully aware we are likely villager vs villager. However, there is still 2 people left to vote, so my vote really didn't decide anything.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:45 PM   #74
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I must admit thats an unusual move by EF, one that I doubt a wolf would make putting himself in the lead when only down 1 vote.

Cunning wolf play or a villager giving up?
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:45 PM   #75
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wish there were more people around to discuss, maybe this mid day deadline isn't such a hot idea.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:47 PM   #76
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:50 PM   #77
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I must admit thats an unusual move by EF, one that I doubt a wolf would make putting himself in the lead when only down 1 vote.

Cunning wolf play or a villager giving up?

Villager taking a shot at the one who put him over the top. Hoping it gives The Jackal an incentive to move his vote off me and then everything is back up for grabs. Need to shake things up somehow.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:55 PM   #78
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well like I said I am willing to trust you are a villager at this point.

If you move your vote back to jackal I'll move mine.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:58 PM   #79
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Here's what we have.

I am not a wolf.

heinz and PF piled onto the vote on The Jackal, something worth looking into. I really don't think Lathum is a wolf as it wouldn't be a great move to make a tie breaking vote for a wolf or suspicion would be raised.

BK makes an early vote on me. Possibly a wolflike vote as he question my day one vote. With no PB in this game I had to vote someone so I went with what I saw the rules say at the time (the example vote has since been changed) .

The Jackal's vote is self defense at the time so maybe nothing to be made of that. hoops jumps in to tie things up (maybe a wolf vote if we believe that The Jackal is a wolf).

Danny's vote could either be an attempt to bring a 3rd party into the mix or as Lathum suggests a wolf trying to keep himself "in the clear".
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:58 PM   #80
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Show me that I can trust you then.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:59 PM   #81
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unvote Lathum

vote The Jackal
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:59 PM   #82
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unvote EF
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:00 PM   #83
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hmm, 2 non voters as well
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:00 PM   #84
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And you made a terrible move, I just got back.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:00 PM   #85
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I'm the cop.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:01 PM   #86
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I guess I should have revealed but I didn't think there'd be a deadline switch on day one.. smooth.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:02 PM   #87
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I wish you could have been on a bit earlier. I really didn't want to move back to you and was hoping for the non-voters to show up to see what happened.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:03 PM   #88
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I was on for a couple hours before, didn't look like I'd need to reveal, then I needed to run some errands and left at like 1:30
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:03 PM   #89
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it's not your fault EF, you switching back to me was as much self defense as my vote on you, I don't know if you're bad
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:05 PM   #90
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I should have just taken one for the team.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:11 PM   #91
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:12 PM   #92
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damn, just got back.

That sucks.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:12 PM   #93
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sorry, lost power again!

The Jackal is lynched. he was the cop!


Gonna go look for night night actions!
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:13 PM   #94
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IMO that makes you look like you don't want that vote anilyzed later in the game.
It's a day 1 vote. Either I know conclusively who the villagers are or I don't. I shouldn't be killed later on for something I couldn't really be expected to know D1. The way I look at it, saving or condemning a wolf on D1 deserves suspicion later on. Pretty much anything else? Not as much. So a close D1 vote is important, I will grant you that.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:14 PM   #95
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Well that was unfortunate. Didn't even get to that reveal part.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:14 PM   #96
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you wake up, hoops is dead he is a villegar!

hows that for a writeup!

Deadline is tommorow at 2!
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:15 PM   #97
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Well this isn't going well at all.

DId we have some non-voters too? Ick.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:16 PM   #98
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all pms should be out.... if i forgot you let me know!
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:16 PM   #99
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Sorry Jackal, and fellow villagers for that matter. I should have done my other plan, to try to work a no lynch (I gess I need to look at the rules to see if that is possible but I remember seeing a no lynch vote listed in the example so I assume it is). That is why I posted asking Lathum to show me I could trust him, I was hoping he would switch but then I saw the time was way too close to deadline to wait it out and made the move.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:17 PM   #100
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It's a day 1 vote. Either I know conclusively who the villagers are or I don't. I shouldn't be killed later on for something I couldn't really be expected to know D1. The way I look at it, saving or condemning a wolf on D1 deserves suspicion later on. Pretty much anything else? Not as much. So a close D1 vote is important, I will grant you that.

I understand that on day 1 the only people who know who a villager is are the wolves.

That being said by not giving anyone something to anylize later in the game you are hindering the process of finding wolves. The only ones that want to do that are the wolves
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