Survivor XXIX

[Autumn]

Yes, people aren't doing much surprising so far this season. A lot of episodes have just been, yep, that's what they should have done. Did it.

[chrisj]

I don't know - I understand wanting to get out the gay guys. They seemed to be the only one from that alliance trying to make a move. Then again its hard to judge based on the edits.

[EagleFan]

This season has jumped the shark. At least for the season.

[Draft Dodger]

yeah tough season - Jeremy is pretty much the only likeable person at all. Nor is there anyone really dislikeable. Everyone is just incredibly bland.

[Kodos]

Baylor is kinda cute.

[Autumn]

If you could combine Baylor's face with Jaclyn's body, then we'd be getting somewhere.

[Suicane75]

I want to punch Baylor in the face every time I see her.

This is an incredibly sexist thing to say, I realize, but a part of me died when Julies boobs quit.

[Autumn]

Jaclyn's boobs are much better. #forreal

[larrymcg421]

Memorable tribal council tonight. This season has really picked up after the merge.

[Simbo Klice]

Keith's IQ has to be somewhere in the 40-50 range. I'd love to see an all-dumb redneck Survivor.

[EagleFan]

It has gotten better and I can't believe I want to see Natalie do well. Couldn't stand her and her sister on Amazing Race. Of course, it could just be the combination of the two of them together that gets annoying.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

It has gotten better and I can't believe I want to see Natalie do well. Couldn't stand her and her sister on Amazing Race. Of course, it could just be the combination of the two of them together that gets annoying.

I didn't see the amazing Race but I also want to see her do well, she seems to be a level above everyone at playing except maybe Reid.

I feel bad for Keith, his son went home directly because of his stupid comment.

Maybe it is just me, but watching people jump off the poles for food so fast made me long for the old days of Survivor. Maybe I am misremembering, but I don't think in earlier seasons players would have given up like that for food.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I didn't see the amazing Race but I also want to see her do well, she seems to be a level above everyone at playing except maybe Reid.

I feel bad for Keith, his son went home directly because of his stupid comment.

Maybe it is just me, but watching people jump off the poles for food so fast made me long for the old days of Survivor. Maybe I am misremembering, but I don't think in earlier seasons players would have given up like that for food.

I thought that has been in play for a while now. Or a variety of that type of challenge where it sort of helps potentially blow up the game a bit to see where people think they stand. Though I think it was usually a choice of either eating or participating.

[EagleFan]

Though I will say, Natalie's approach was brilliant. She knew that she couldn't go much longer and still got a freaking feast for it. Major props to her for that.

(If you had seen The Amazing Race you would probably know why I throw up a little bit in my mouth each time I compliment her -- though it could still just be the combination of her and her sister together)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Though I will say, Natalie's approach was brilliant. She knew that she couldn't go much longer and still got a freaking feast for it. Major props to her for that.

(If you had seen The Amazing Race you would probably know why I throw up a little bit in my mouth each time I compliment her -- though it could still just be the combination of her and her sister together)

My wife and I have been talking about this for weeks. The combination is annoying, but she's very likeable when she's not playing off her sister all the time and comes across as much more intelligent.

[Maple Leafs]

The first half of that episode was one of the most frustrating hours of TV I've ever seen. I'm pretty sure 90% of couple who just watched that together ended up having a ridiculous fight.

[Suicane75]

My lord, every week I feel like I have a new rooting interest and then they go either get voted out or go back to the dark side.

Someone please explain to me Natalies move there. She pisses off her two alliance leaders just to keep Keith in the game, who even if he does win the next immunity, SHE KNOWS John has an idol. It felt completely like making a move just to make a move.

This season is really coming down to who's the least biggest asshole. I guess I'm rooting for Keith now, even though he doesn't deserve to win. But everyone else is both unlikeable and stupid. At least he's just stupid.

[larrymcg421]

I don't think there will be much blowback from this. I doubt it will be hard to smooth over. Tony made moves like this all last season and he was able to get his alliance back. And she's ensured a vote from Keith if she goes to the end. She was never getting Alec's vote.

But even if Jon and Jaclyn are pissed, Natalie still has Baylor and Keith on her side. That will make it 3-3 and it shouldn't be hard for Baylor to convince her mom to join them in order to avoid drawing rocks.

Spoiler

Also, based on scenes from next week, Missy might be going home, which would give Keith, Baylor, and Natalie a 3-2 edge.

I'm not saying it's an ideal move. It will depend on how she manages the fallout. But I think it can be a good move if she plays it right.

[Autumn]

Missy will be the key now, yeah. I assume she realizes she has to get rid of John eventually, but the editing has made it unclear if she's willing to pull the trigger. The fact that Natalie hasn't been blabbing all over about her idol, like John, gives her the edge at the moment.

I was so sure Jacyln was going to get pissed and vote her own boyfriend off. That guy kept digging his hole deeper.

[Autumn]

And Missy bringing Natalie on the reward was a real dumb move. Natalie wouldn't have been pissed to be left behind, and Jaclyn and Jon are suckers for stuff like that.

[Kodos]

If you can't vote Jon out, why not target his partner, Jaclyn?

[Autumn]

I've been thinking about whether it's better to get to the end as a couple or not. You would think it doubles your chances in the final three, but I think it would encourage some jury members to vote for the single as an underdog. Might be better to plan to sacrifice your partner before then, get a vote on the jury, and establish one partner as the player.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Kodos

If you can't vote Jon out, why not target his partner, Jaclyn?

Yeah, exactly. Really shows how well liked she is in camp I think that no one considers that. Could be important down the stretch. If Jon was smart, he'd get her to the final three, but I'm sure he thinks he's the champ. What a dunce.

[Kodos]

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I've been thinking about whether it's better to get to the end as a couple or not. You would think it doubles your chances in the final three, but I think it would encourage some jury members to vote for the single as an underdog. Might be better to plan to sacrifice your partner before then, get a vote on the jury, and establish one partner as the player.

I'd assume that any couple that got to the final three would pick one to win, and have the other throw all the support behind them. You'd basically get double the time for all the answers, and drop your odds from 1-in-3 to 1-in-2 at least.

Now, maybe that plays badly with the jury. Guess it would depend on how over-the-top it was.

[saldana]

that double episode was painful...i honestly cant stand watching all the crying this season...i also wont be surprised one bit if when they get to the finale, jon and jaclyn have broken up...i think once she sees the show and sees how much of douche he is the whole time, she is gonna be pissed.

[Kodos]

Yeah, they don't seem like a solid couple.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I'd assume that any couple that got to the final three would pick one to win, and have the other throw all the support behind them. You'd basically get double the time for all the answers, and drop your odds from 1-in-3 to 1-in-2 at least.

I think it would make more sense to make sure half the couple didn't make the F3 so you have a guaranteed vote and an advocate on the jury.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I think it would make more sense to make sure half the couple didn't make the F3 so you have a guaranteed vote and an advocate on the jury.

I don't know. Is having a 1-in-3 chance with one vote out of seven (nine?) locked up, a better deal than 1-in-2 with all votes in play? We may need QuikSand to weigh in.

[Mota]

Considering they're boyfriend / girlfriend and not even getting along that great at times, I would play hard regardless.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I don't know. Is having a 1-in-3 chance with one vote out of seven (nine?) locked up, a better deal than 1-in-2 with all votes in play? We may need QuikSand to weigh in.

If it's a F3, there will be 8. If it's a F2, there will be 9.

Usually in the F3 situations, it's down to 2 people anyways. Only twice have all three people received votes in a F3. Also, even if one of them threw the Final Tribal, there's no guarantee they still wouldn't split votes or that the obvious collusion wouldn't turn people off. I'm so competitive that if I was on Survivor, winning would be more important than the money.

Mota does bring up a great point that it wouldn't make sense for Jon and Jaclyn to collude since there's no guarantee they'll share the money. That would only be a guarantee for a married couple.

[saldana]

i dont think they would allow one of them to throw the final tribal.

a long time ago, i think it might have been when rupert stole everyone's shoes and sold them, Jeff told the players that there are really only two rules to survivor.

1. you cannot have any kind of physical altercation with another player
2. you cannot have any kind of deal to split the money

[Landshark44]

there are probably more rules then that...


like, if you find an immunity idol in someones bag, you can't use it yourself. right?

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Landshark44

there are probably more rules then that...


like, if you find an immunity idol in someones bag, you can't use it yourself. right?

This is correct. When you find an idol, it comes with a document that spells out all the rules for ownership. It cannot be used by someone else unless yo consent to give it to them.

As for the split money rule, I imagine that had to be relaxed for the Blood vs Water seasons.

[Draft Dodger]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Someone please explain to me Natalies move there. She pisses off her two alliance leaders just to keep Keith in the game, who even if he does win the next immunity, SHE KNOWS John has an idol. It felt completely like making a move just to make a move.

she's way late on making a move on John. Would have been much easier to do earlier.

for that matter, why not go after Jacqueline? Even without bringing Missy on board, Baylor, Nathalie, Keith and Alec had 4 votes.

can't remember so much whining ever about not being picked for the rewards. what a bunch of babies.

[larrymcg421]

When will people learn that giving up a reward means absolutely nothing? This is a game for a million dollars. If someone wants you out, a free massage isn't going to change that. You'd think people would've learned from the Brenda debacle in Caramoan.

What a great episode for Natalie: Selling people on her lie, winning immunity, and orchestrating a blindside. And she's the only person with an idol left.

[EagleFan]

Nice episode. No idea how Missy can carry on though.

[larrymcg421]

If Missy gets pulled, then it looks like a Natalie, Baylor, Keith F3 unless Jaclyn wins immunity.

Keith will get a vote from Wes (and maybe Alec). Baylor will get a vote from Missy. I think Natalie will get Josh, Jeremy, and Reed. No idea who Jon and Jaclyn vote for in that scenario.

[Suicane75]

Yet another idiot taking an idol home with them. For heck sakes.

[grdawg]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Yet another idiot taking an idol home with them. For heck sakes.

Couldn't John have given it to Jaqueline. I would think he knew when they revoted it was going to be him so he should have given it to her then.

[EagleFan]

No, once the idol isn't played it can't be given away.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by grdawg

Couldn't John have given it to Jaqueline. I would think he knew when they revoted it was going to be him so he should have given it to her then.

I'm pretty sure you can't pass the idol once voting has started.

[Draft Dodger]

I still say she should have done it sooner, but great, great move by Natalie. If she does make it to final 3 - which is looking pretty good at this point - she should win it handily.

[larrymcg421]

The only concern for Natalie is the final 4. If she doesn't win immunity, will Baylor and Missy take her out?

[grdawg]

Well if John wasn't going to play the idol then he should have left it hidden at camp so in case he or Jacqueline were voted out, the other would have it for the next tribal.

I don't really like anyone who is left at this point, come to think of it, I didn't really liked anyone that much this season at all. I think a final 3 of Baylor, Missy, and Natalie sucks. If Baylor and Missy were smart they would get back in Jacqueline's good graces because she has no shot of winning so it would be smart to take her to final 3.

[Lathum]

Is Wednesday the finale?

[Kodos]

Yes.

[Mota]

This could be the least likeable final 5 ever!

The season has been interesting, but at this point I'm just hoping for a random typhoon to hit...

[Draft Dodger]

Originally Posted by grdawg

Well if John wasn't going to play the idol then he should have left it hidden at camp so in case he or Jacqueline were voted out, the other would have it for the next tribal.

I don't think you can do that

[larrymcg421]

Yeah, one person has ownership of the idol. If it's buried at camp and he gets voted out, she can't dig it up and use it. Also, he didn't know he wasn't going to use it. You always bring your idol just in case. That paid off for him last time when Natalie talked him into playing the idol.