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He forcibly kissed her and then humiliated her for days. And I'll be shocked if this is a one time only thing. He deserves what he gets.
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I've been spending way too much time staring at Franken's hands and that lady's boobs, but it looks to me like he's making contact with some of fingertips, but that it's not a full "grab." And that's it's pretty likely he was making more physical contact immediately before or after the photo was taken. Because he's RIGHT there. It'd take some serious hand dexterity to get that close and not touch or grab on the way in or in the way out, and it would be some serious bad luck if this split second captured the very closest his hands got.
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Clean out congress. They are fat cats that only think about themselves and are drunk with power.
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To do what exactly? Replace them with identically self-interested power drunk folks? Not sure that going to accomplish much other than creating more work for the pages/guides who have to explain where the bathrooms are.
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I just don't really know where things are going politically. Trump did much worse than this, Clinton did much worse than this, even George H.W. Bush has been accused of stuff while in his wheelchair... it's good the pendulum has swung in this direction, but it's gone so far in the opposite direction that you see that huge bifurcation and backlash. No room in the internet/twitter echo chamber to try and make any nuanced argument at this point, it's just one people in the middle sit out and let the crazy people on both sides go to extremes. Last edited by BishopMVP : 11-16-2017 at 06:51 PM. |
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11-16-2017, 08:11 PM | #59 |
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If there was ever going to be a state to elect a pedophile, it would be Alabama. I want to know more about this. http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politi...ent/index.html |
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On top of that, he's doing it in front of a bunch of people, like the skit that he wrote for the tour. It's all in front of a bunch of people. He's not parking a car behind a dumpster. While he's guilty of the act, the context couldn't be further apart.
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11-17-2017, 07:47 AM | #62 | |
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Taking advantage of her in a rehearsal like that is waaaay out of line. He isn't the first to do it, but it's almost always a way for an older, more established actor to take advantage of a younger, inexperienced actress. It happens because the woman will probably be too scared to say anything, and if she does the man can always claim he was just really into the scene. It's predatory, plain and simple.
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It has been fascinating to see what the reaction has been to these incidents from friends and acquaintances while comparing it to their past reactions to real or perceived incidents of harassment involving their significant others. It makes sense I guess but still kinda fascinating.
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11-17-2017, 10:22 AM | #65 | |
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It was a completely bullshit thing to do, no question. And if you're going to clean house in all of Congress he is free to go, but behaving like a jackass is the sort of thing I'd expect to see in a comedy tour. It crossed a line and he should have realized then. It's still not parking behind a dumpster.
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11-17-2017, 10:25 AM | #66 |
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Maybe the USO can get rid of the eye candy/sex object role?
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11-17-2017, 10:45 AM | #67 |
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11-17-2017, 10:56 AM | #68 |
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Yes, let's replace it with, I dunno, some nice family board games or something. That'll put butts in seats.
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11-17-2017, 10:58 AM | #69 |
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Oh I have doubts. Then again, with any electorate, I always have some degree of doubt.
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I dunno - I'm thinking Steve Harvey putting on Family Feud would probably beat out some skit with an old SNL alum and an aging model/poker hostess. I guess what I've wondered for a while - and not having served, I have no idea, so any input from vets is appreciated - is how effective USO tours are for morale. Are they (like variety shows, telethons, etc) an entertainment format which has outlived its usefulness. Has communications and the ability to access other entertainment (including, oh, porn) obsoleted much of the content. I mean, I don't know if we're still in the era where troops are lusting after Betty Grable's legs taped to the top of their foot locker.
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Can't have that. Harvey uses suggestions of lechery as part of his humor after all.
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USO tours haven’t been like what you see in movies for a long time now. Closest I saw to anything like that over my career (1998-2016) was about 4 Redskins cheerleaders coming over with some former NFL players (Darren Woodson and 3 others) in 2012. They basically ran a “training camp” and signed some autographs. Otherwise, it’s mostly celebrities coming over to give a quick speech, bands/cover bands/military bands, or a few lower-rung comedians doing stand-up routines. The WWE does a show over there as well. Military has been hammered by sexual assaults over the past few decades so the culture is completely different than the days when you’d see Playboy playmates or “eye candy” at the shows. Even still, just about anything draws as there isn’t much else to do when you aren’t working or sleeping. |
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See, you had to know that bragging was going to eventually begin
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I had to read that, like, three times to realize that he wasn't bragging about making passionate love to Senator Bob Taft.
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I thought that as well. I like this guy.
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That may have scored a lot of votes in Ohio though...
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So I think by the time this is over, all sitting representatives and senators will have allegations about harassment against them, and none will be left to run the government. One way to clean up the swamp I guess.
Honestly I can see these things used in just about every election from now on whether its true or not. Sad.
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Count me in as another who read that as sexin' up Bob Taft....and reading it that way made me think the dude was being sarcastic and I was practically laughing along with him....until I was forced to re-read it and realize it was actually just some weird version of entirely humorless bragging.
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I don't know if Bob Taft is still around, but methinks if he is, he probably picked up a few votes for being so damn attractive.
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I was thinking Bob was an unusual name for a woman.
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He needs to go.
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Franken shouldn't resign unless Trump does. Trump and the Republicans have no moral authority on this issue.
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I hope in Franken's next apology he says he's groped far less woman than Donald Trump so we really shouldn't worry about it
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This is my perspective - I actually like(d) Franken a lot and he talks a lot of sense generally, however this undermines his influence and as such he'd be better off to leave with what dignity he has left. That Trump and some others don't do the right thing doesn't excuse him from doing so ... Last edited by Marc Vaughan : 11-20-2017 at 01:46 PM. |
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Isn't that a safe Dem seat in a state with a Dem governor? What's the downside for the Dems of losing Franken and putting someone else in?
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