Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899 - Page 2

Danny · 06-30-2009, 03:39 PM

I really do need more than one spot. With Poli not playing it is going to be harder to meet my post quota for this game.

hoopsguy · 06-30-2009, 03:41 PM

Danny, your 2nd role is "plutonium". Unfortunately, it is a non-posting role and it does not receive any PMs from the moderator. Not even a starting PM.

VOTE PLUTONIUM

Passacaglia · 06-30-2009, 03:57 PM

VOTE PLUTONIUM
VOTE NIGHTFALL

Passacaglia · 06-30-2009, 03:58 PM

This game is pretty easy so far.

Poli · 06-30-2009, 04:03 PM

VOTE PLUTONIUM

Just in case this counts.

Danny · 06-30-2009, 04:27 PM

Vote Damn moderation queue for new registration. Plutonium will have something to say about this soon!

hoopsguy · 06-30-2009, 04:27 PM

Hmm, I've seen who is the newest member at FOFC and I expect he is headed this way.

Barkeep49 · 06-30-2009, 04:57 PM

Just in case it wasn't clear, since there are two GMs this game, hoops and I decided that we would be eligible to vote as well.

Vote plutonium

saldana · 06-30-2009, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Bummer. If there was an interest in coming in as a replacement player upon your return I would love to slot you for that. For whatever reason, I find that my games usually need one before all is said and done.

thats because they last 4 weeks, and several people have strokes from trying to keep up with all the posts every single day

hoopsguy · 06-30-2009, 10:06 PM

I take some responsibility for the latter (game environments that foster high posting) but I really do try to accelerate the deaths enough so that the games don't run over two weeks. Heck, I don't want to moderate for that long!

hoopsguy · 07-01-2009, 08:06 AM

Had a very, very tough work day yesterday that prevented finishing up the rules. I'm looking to get the final version posted this evening at some point.

Poli · 07-01-2009, 02:17 PM

VOTE HOOPSGUY

hoopsguy · 07-01-2009, 02:22 PM

Poli, you may just end up with a worse role than Danny's secondary if you continue down this road.

nfg22 · 07-01-2009, 03:10 PM

Vote Barkeep?

hoopsguy · 07-01-2009, 03:18 PM

I think that is a better play, but the other mod may disagree.

Danny · 07-01-2009, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I think that is a better play, but the other mod may disagree.

You might want to rethink that as a better play. If BK gets voted out you have to do all the work yourself.

ntndeacon · 07-01-2009, 03:46 PM

ok I am in

hoopsguy · 07-01-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

You might want to rethink that as a better play. If BK gets voted out you have to do all the work yourself.

That is kind of an interesting point. The workload for this one is going to be very different than the Marvel games. Less math, less judgement calls, but the sheer coverage requirements for the mods in this game are going to be very high.

Barkeep49 · 07-01-2009, 04:27 PM

Expect the rules to be up shortly.

Barkeep49 · 07-01-2009, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

That is kind of an interesting point. The workload for this one is going to be very different than the Marvel games. Less math, less judgement calls, but the sheer coverage requirements for the mods in this game are going to be very high.

I think this post is just asking for nothing but trouble.

hoopsguy · 07-01-2009, 04:32 PM

Trouble = just asking for unexpected judgment calls to emerge?

Barkeep49 · 07-01-2009, 04:35 PM

hoopsguy · 07-01-2009, 04:37 PM

Eh - no "create a power" = not as many judgment calls. That was a crazy amount of work. Fun to try, fit the theme, but I'm not going to return to that mechanic anytime real soon.

hoopsguy · 07-01-2009, 04:42 PM

And rules are now in place. See Post #1.

Danny · 07-01-2009, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

And rules are now in place. See Post #1.

Sweet, game looks like a lot of fun! I hope we get the 25 players.

Autumn · 07-01-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Eh - no "create a power" = not as many judgment calls. That was a crazy amount of work. Fun to try, fit the theme, but I'm not going to return to that mechanic anytime real soon.

What?? But what about Doombots!!!

Danny · 07-01-2009, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Additional Notes: all characters begin the game with the ability to sent up to four PMs per day to anyone in the game. This is in addition to any role-specific PM abilities (Conspiracy members can PM each other freely, for example). The moderators must be included on all PMs. Players are on the honor system to not send PMs above and beyond the set limit.

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This sounds especially cool

Autumn · 07-01-2009, 05:04 PM

Wow, I really like the rule set. This should be a lot of fun.

hoopsguy · 07-01-2009, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

What?? But what about Doombots!!!

I would be stoked to play a game run by another moderator with this option

Passacaglia · 07-01-2009, 05:21 PM

There was math in the marvel game? I thought it was all just guesstimating

hoopsguy · 07-01-2009, 05:25 PM

Only when the math was too hard.

nfg22 · 07-01-2009, 05:32 PM

Shouldnt the max number of players be 24?

hoopsguy · 07-01-2009, 05:37 PM

Technically, there is not a maximum number of players. But BK and I created 31 roles initially and the Conspirators are going to know about two that are not in the game. So we could potentially support 29 players with what we've put together up to this point. I would be pretty surprised if we have enough interest to fill 29 spots between now and Monday, however.

Oh, wait - you were just making a funny there. Right? Oops.

Tyrith · 07-01-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

There was math in the marvel game? I thought it was all just guesstimating

No kidding, days 2-5 in that game we probably spent 90 minutes a day each adding and readding numbers to make sure we had it straight. Maybe more.

EagleFan · 07-01-2009, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

And rules are now in place. See Post #1.

I made it all the way to post 76 and now he wants me to go back to post 1?

vote hoops

EagleFan · 07-01-2009, 07:18 PM

I'm going to have to relinquish my spot. After looking over the rules there is no way I will be able to find enough time, especially with no set deadlines.

It looks like it should be a fun game though. Good luck to all.

Poli · 07-01-2009, 07:19 PM

Honor system? Speak English, please.

hoopsguy · 07-01-2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I'm going to have to relinquish my spot. After looking over the rules there is no way I will be able to find enough time, especially with no set deadlines.

It looks like it should be a fun game though. Good luck to all.

Just speaking towards this concern - and not to the availability of EagleFan - I do not think that the time commitment needs to be immense due to the real-time nature.

If your character has an action, it can be submitted whenever you are online. And you should see the results immediately, rather than having to check back in later after the standard day/night deadline. And then you can take your action again when it becomes available once more, after whatever time allotment is defined in the character PM.

If you have a vote to make, you don't have to try and get it in before a deadline. Make it when you are in the thread, when you are caught up on the reading, etc.

Now, is it really this simple? Well, my answer is that it can be. If someone has a lot of time they might find some greater advantages to the real-time element but I don't want to necessarily spell out all my thoughts on how this could play out before the game gets started.

Bottom line - I think that the lack of standard day/night deadlines could end up being more friendly to players with limited time than the rules in a conventional game. Similarly, I think these rules are likely to be more friendly to someone playing from a non EST/CST timezone.

I would be interested in hearing thoughts of others on this.

jeheinz72 · 07-02-2009, 09:21 AM

I'm still thinking on this. I may just be out of town too much to play

DaddyTorgo · 07-02-2009, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Just speaking towards this concern - and not to the availability of EagleFan - I do not think that the time commitment needs to be immense due to the real-time nature.

If your character has an action, it can be submitted whenever you are online. And you should see the results immediately, rather than having to check back in later after the standard day/night deadline. And then you can take your action again when it becomes available once more, after whatever time allotment is defined in the character PM.

If you have a vote to make, you don't have to try and get it in before a deadline. Make it when you are in the thread, when you are caught up on the reading, etc.

Now, is it really this simple? Well, my answer is that it can be. If someone has a lot of time they might find some greater advantages to the real-time element but I don't want to necessarily spell out all my thoughts on how this could play out before the game gets started.

Bottom line - I think that the lack of standard day/night deadlines could end up being more friendly to players with limited time than the rules in a conventional game. Similarly, I think these rules are likely to be more friendly to someone playing from a non EST/CST timezone.

I would be interested in hearing thoughts of others on this.

when you explained it to me this way the other day it eased some of my fears about it, so hopefully it does the same for others.

Passacaglia · 07-02-2009, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith

No kidding, days 2-5 in that game we probably spent 90 minutes a day each adding and readding numbers to make sure we had it straight. Maybe more.

To make sure we had what straight? Didn't we have a problem of not knowing anything about what our goals were, so we were just trying to guess at what a good amount was? Maybe I should re-read it, but it might enrage me too much.

hoopsguy · 07-02-2009, 11:18 AM

It was to make sure that Tyrith and I had calculated all the factors correctly in terms of attacks, defenses, and other variables that came into the "effective damage" which determined kills.

This game - with no Health, Energy, defensive powers, and variable attacks - is going to be much more standard werewolf than Marvel.

Passacaglia · 07-02-2009, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

It was to make sure that Tyrith and I had calculated all the factors correctly in terms of attacks, defenses, and other variables that came into the "effective damage" which determined kills.

This game - with no Health, Energy, defensive powers, and variable attacks - is going to be much more standard werewolf than Marvel.

Oh right, Tyrith was a mod -- I was thinking of it from a player's perspective.

saldana · 07-02-2009, 01:26 PM

i'm in.

Poli · 07-02-2009, 07:23 PM

Obligatory daily post.

hoopsguy · 07-02-2009, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

Obligatory daily post.

So when are you going to break down and join the game?

Surely your team wants you to serve your country in some capacity?

The Jackal · 07-02-2009, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I don't think the carpet matches the drapes.

Oh, I think it does.

Barkeep49 · 07-02-2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

So when are you going to break down and join the game?

Surely your team wants you to serve your country in some capacity?

Surely his team wants him to post a dynasty like he did last year.

Poli · 07-02-2009, 09:36 PM

I think I will be attending a different youth football camp held by former Ram and current HS head coach Mike Jones next week.

I will be managing a dynasty thread again this season.

Schmidty · 07-03-2009, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Oh, I think it does.

Look at the roots, not the jugs. Definitely not a natural blond.

Not that I care, since I'm a redhead guy.

06-30-2009, 04:03 PM	#55
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	VOTE PLUTONIUM Just in case this counts. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-01-2009, 02:17 PM	#62
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	VOTE HOOPSGUY __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-01-2009, 04:35 PM	#72
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Yup.

07-01-2009, 07:19 PM	#87
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Honor system? Speak English, please. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-02-2009, 07:23 PM	#95
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Obligatory daily post. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

06-30-2009, 03:41 PM	#52
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Danny, your 2nd role is "plutonium". Unfortunately, it is a non-posting role and it does not receive any PMs from the moderator. Not even a starting PM. VOTE PLUTONIUM

06-30-2009, 03:57 PM	#53
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	VOTE PLUTONIUM VOTE NIGHTFALL

06-30-2009, 03:58 PM	#54
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	This game is pretty easy so far.

06-30-2009, 04:27 PM	#56
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Vote Damn moderation queue for new registration. Plutonium will have something to say about this soon!

06-30-2009, 04:57 PM	#58
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Just in case it wasn't clear, since there are two GMs this game, hoops and I decided that we would be eligible to vote as well. Vote plutonium

06-30-2009, 10:06 PM	#60
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I take some responsibility for the latter (game environments that foster high posting) but I really do try to accelerate the deaths enough so that the games don't run over two weeks. Heck, I don't want to moderate for that long!

07-01-2009, 08:06 AM	#61
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Had a very, very tough work day yesterday that prevented finishing up the rules. I'm looking to get the final version posted this evening at some point.

07-01-2009, 02:22 PM	#63
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Poli, you may just end up with a worse role than Danny's secondary if you continue down this road.

07-01-2009, 03:10 PM	#64
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Vote Barkeep?

07-01-2009, 03:18 PM	#65
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I think that is a better play, but the other mod may disagree.

07-01-2009, 03:46 PM	#67
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	ok I am in

07-01-2009, 04:27 PM	#69
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Expect the rules to be up shortly.

07-01-2009, 04:32 PM	#71
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Trouble = just asking for unexpected judgment calls to emerge?

07-01-2009, 04:37 PM	#73
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Eh - no "create a power" = not as many judgment calls. That was a crazy amount of work. Fun to try, fit the theme, but I'm not going to return to that mechanic anytime real soon.

07-01-2009, 04:42 PM	#74
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	And rules are now in place. See Post #1.

07-01-2009, 05:04 PM	#78
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Wow, I really like the rule set. This should be a lot of fun.

07-01-2009, 05:21 PM	#80
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	There was math in the marvel game? I thought it was all just guesstimating

07-01-2009, 05:25 PM	#81
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Only when the math was too hard.

07-01-2009, 05:32 PM	#82
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Shouldnt the max number of players be 24?

07-01-2009, 05:37 PM	#83
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Technically, there is not a maximum number of players. But BK and I created 31 roles initially and the Conspirators are going to know about two that are not in the game. So we could potentially support 29 players with what we've put together up to this point. I would be pretty surprised if we have enough interest to fill 29 spots between now and Monday, however. Oh, wait - you were just making a funny there. Right? Oops.

07-01-2009, 07:18 PM	#86
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I'm going to have to relinquish my spot. After looking over the rules there is no way I will be able to find enough time, especially with no set deadlines. It looks like it should be a fun game though. Good luck to all.

07-02-2009, 11:18 AM	#92
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	It was to make sure that Tyrith and I had calculated all the factors correctly in terms of attacks, defenses, and other variables that came into the "effective damage" which determined kills. This game - with no Health, Energy, defensive powers, and variable attacks - is going to be much more standard werewolf than Marvel.

07-02-2009, 01:26 PM	#94
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i'm in.

07-02-2009, 09:36 PM	#99
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I think I will be attending a different youth football camp held by former Ram and current HS head coach Mike Jones next week. I will be managing a dynasty thread again this season. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

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