WW XCII Sparta -- Claimed by Villagers - Page 2

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 12:00 AM

Hi Danny.

Danny · 04-20-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I do think it would be funny if we both declared war and just swapped cities.

I think the wolves would win if both cities declared war.

I do see the argument for making it a one city game as that does mean Hades should be pretty easy to win. But I'm not sure Hades won't be something that is pretty winnable anyway, even with the two cities.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 12:02 AM

Can I vote for a player and vote declare war?

Danny · 04-20-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Hi Danny.

Hello, trying to get some homework done. I work for a minute, read the forums for four. I hate this paper I'm working on. I need four details summaries of research articles on reading interventions, an outline of California reading initiative, how the articles fit into that initiative, their implications for instruction and then how it is impacted by IDEA federal code.

Danny · 04-20-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Can I vote for a player and vote declare war?

Hmm, I'm not sure about this. I would think you could only do one.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 12:05 AM

I guess I'll wait for Pass to come in and tell me which one of my votes are valid or if both are then.

Danny · 04-20-2009, 01:04 AM

One article read and summarized down, three more and a bunch of other stuff to go!

Danny · 04-20-2009, 06:08 AM

Heck yeah, 15 pages later, I am done!!! Now I am going to do a quick 3 page paper before heading to bed for a couple hours and waking up to go videotape a counseling session. And yes, I am sharing with you guys because it's 3 in the morning, I'm excited that my most difficult paper left is done and I'm not going to wake my wife up

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Poli · 04-20-2009, 07:15 AM

I'm off to work/the casino. Sometimes life can be grand.

saldana · 04-20-2009, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I don't need to read anymore. I think I know where I'm going with this vote to start.

Vote Saldana

7 posts...it took you 7 posts...i am SOOOOOO disappointed in you

vote dubb93

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Can I vote for a player and vote declare war?

Yes. You MUST vote for a player (or no lynch) but declaring war is an optional and independent vote from that.

Danny · 04-20-2009, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Yes. You MUST vote for a player (or no lynch) but declaring war is an optional and independent vote from that.

I declare war!

Not really, but this just reminded me of the episode of the office where Michael thinks he declares bankruptcy just by saying it.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

7 posts...it took you 7 posts...i am SOOOOOO disappointed in you

vote dubb93

To be fair I have outstanding votes for you in both the game signup thread and the FOFC roll call thread.

The Jackal · 04-20-2009, 07:55 AM

I'm not sure I see the merit in going to war at this point but I'm listening.

I fully intended to contribute more yesterday evening but apparently I just passed out sitting up in bed with the computer on my lap. Mm, alcohol.

Danny · 04-20-2009, 07:56 AM

You probably can no longer have kids after the laptop sat there all night.

The Jackal · 04-20-2009, 07:58 AM

Thankfully I woke up at midnight and put the computer on the floor.

What time is the deadline? I'm heading to the train in an hour.

Barkeep49 · 04-20-2009, 08:07 AM

2 PM Central, I believe.

I think this war idea is a VERY bad idea as essentially we will be making it a traditional game of WW. Right now I think the wolves task is harder than normal. I don't think we should mess that up.

I have sent my PM to Pass with my vote for Danny.

Finally, assuming we do keep a 2 city structure, I will be voting for the Marathon runner automatically, as there's a 50/50 chance of them being a wolf.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 08:26 AM

I am not going to push for it but I actually think war may not be the worst idea. We get double the roles (and yes, double the wolves) but that means we have two seers scanning simultaneously which, while this becomes a big game of werewolf we would be at the advantage I believe with double roles.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 08:28 AM

There are 19 players, 9 and 10 per city.

With 9 players, I would assume 2 wolves (3 feels very high)
With 10 players, I would assume 2 wolves as well.

IF we go to one massive city, we have 19 players, 4 wolves (about standard) BUT we have double every other role. That's a pretty big advantage on our side IMHO.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 08:29 AM

Nevermind the above, just caught the part about the roles having evil counterparts. No war for me.

Hmmm, that was a waste of time and one of my few remaining brain cells.

Danny · 04-20-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I am not going to push for it but I actually think war may not be the worst idea. We get double the roles (and yes, double the wolves) but that means we have two seers scanning simultaneously which, while this becomes a big game of werewolf we would be at the advantage I believe with double roles.

Doesn't quite worth that way, per the rules, while both seers are villagers, one is evil and wins with the wolves. Also, one BG is a wolf and one marathon runner is a wolf.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 08:30 AM

Hehe, Danny, why weren't you in my head ten minutes ago when I thought of all that garbage!

Danny · 04-20-2009, 08:31 AM

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Hehe, Danny, why weren't you in my head ten minutes ago when I thought of all that garbage!

I was busy using the head! Really though, I've checked the rules about five times myself as I keep forgetting things.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Finally, assuming we do keep a 2 city structure, I will be voting for the Marathon runner automatically, as there's a 50/50 chance of them being a wolf.

BK, I agree with you, the 50/50 shot makes it worth it. It would be a disappointment to hit the wrong runner BUT we won't know anyway because the runner flees and we get no info, but at least we would remove them. If Athens does the same, they should be killed immediately upon their appearance because of that 50-50 shot.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 08:35 AM

My vote when for Claphamsa

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 08:35 AM

*went, not when

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I declare war!

Not really, but this just reminded me of the episode of the office where Michael thinks he declares bankruptcy just by saying it.

I loved that line!

claphamsa · 04-20-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I am not going to push for it but I actually think war may not be the worst idea. We get double the roles (and yes, double the wolves) but that means we have two seers scanning simultaneously which, while this becomes a big game of werewolf we would be at the advantage I believe with double roles.

except one of the seers is a wolf... right?

claphamsa · 04-20-2009, 08:46 AM

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except one of the seers is a wolf... right?

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NVM.. catch up THEN post!@

Danny · 04-20-2009, 09:05 AM

A question regarding being elected Elphor since I am up for discussion. Whoever is elected, do you think it is beneficial to reveal that they were elected or not, or is it best for the top candidates to stay silent about the result?

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

A question regarding being elected Elphor since I am up for discussion. Whoever is elected, do you think it is beneficial to reveal that they were elected or not, or is it best for the top candidates to stay silent about the result?

Silent

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 09:08 AM

No sense in pooling our brains to come up with candidates and then have him out himself to the wolves. That wouldn't make any sense at all.

Danny · 04-20-2009, 09:09 AM

I didn't want to possibly tip my hand afterwards, so wanted to clear this up beforehand.

jeheinz72 · 04-20-2009, 09:31 AM

Back online. I'd agree about being silent. I'll have to re-read about the war thing, I'll admit I just kinda glossed over that.

As far as an ephor vote, well, I'm certainly not voting for clap.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

As far as an ephor vote, well, I'm certainly not voting for clap.

Is this because you think I'm a wolf? I'm not a wolf.

jeheinz72 · 04-20-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Is this because you think I'm a wolf? I'm not a wolf.

No, not at all. Clap tends to just hounddog me in games, as evidenced by his vote on me. I'm just not of the ilk that I'd like to vote him to have the Duke power.

First game back in a long time and well, I'd prefer it if I didn't die due to the STD that is the clap.

claphamsa · 04-20-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Back online. I'd agree about being silent. I'll have to re-read about the war thing, I'll admit I just kinda glossed over that.

As far as an ephor vote, well, I'm certainly not voting for clap.

booo

claphamsa · 04-20-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

No, not at all. Clap tends to just hounddog me in games, as evidenced by his vote on me. I'm just not of the ilk that I'd like to vote him to have the Duke power.

First game back in a long time and well, I'd prefer it if I didn't die due to the STD that is the clap.

even boooer!

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 09:43 AM

How about a vote count? This look right to you guys?

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saldana -- dubb93 (7)
Danny -- PurdueBrad (23)
jeheinz72 -- claphamsa (14)
dubb93 -- jeheinz72 (19) saldana (60)
The Jackal -- Poli (25)
Poli -- The Jackal (26) Barkeep49 (41)

Danny · 04-20-2009, 09:45 AM

Looks right. Those votes are awfully spread out. I don't remember, what is the result of a tie?

Danny · 04-20-2009, 09:47 AM

Players without votes are DT and I. I don't think DT has even checked into the thread yet.

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Looks right. Those votes are awfully spread out. I don't remember, what is the result of a tie?

Forgot to mention them -- they're in the rules now.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 09:50 AM

Question for ya Heinz and how you answer this question determines if I move my vote or not. Why does Claps vote for you not strike you as odd after your comeback, however, my vote for Saldana strikes you as a possible wolf hiding his vote?

I've been voting for Saldana since before it was cool to vote for Saldana.

Danny · 04-20-2009, 09:51 AM

Ok, so in the case of a tie, all the top vote getters get lynched. This is a tie mechanic I have not seen before. Has anybody experienced this before. It almost seems like a tie might favor the village by making the lynch to night kill 2:1 ratio.

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 09:51 AM

Testing my vote spreadsheet, with numbers added:

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saldana -- 1 dubb93 (7)
Danny -- 1 PurdueBrad (23)
jeheinz72 -- 1 claphamsa (14)
dubb93 -- 2 jeheinz72 (19) saldana (60)
The Jackal -- 1 Poli (25)
Poli -- 2 The Jackal (26) Barkeep49 (41)

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Testing my vote spreadsheet, with numbers added:

Who hasn't voted yet? DT, and who is the other one?

Danny · 04-20-2009, 09:52 AM

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Ok, so in the case of a tie, all the top vote getters get lynched. This is a tie mechanic I have not seen before. Has anybody experienced this before. It almost seems like a tie might favor the village by making the lynch to night kill 2:1 ratio.

Eh....I think the longer the game goes on the more it favors the village. I could be wrong tho. If we do a 2 for 1 this mini game here will last 2 days if we are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, 3 days if we get one right at some point.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 09:54 AM

That is unless there are 3 wolves. In that case even if we get one right it is game over after two days if we go that route.

Danny · 04-20-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Eh....I think the longer the game goes on the more it favors the village. I could be wrong tho. If we do a 2 for 1 this mini game here will last 2 days if we are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, 3 days if we get one right at some point.

That's true. What it does do I think is in the event we do mess the lynches up, it puts hades in control of the village. I'm on very little sleep from doing homework, but it seems either way it could have a positive effect on hades. I'm still not sure though.

04-20-2009, 07:15 AM	#59
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm off to work/the casino. Sometimes life can be grand. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

04-20-2009, 09:52 AM	#97
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Me

04-20-2009, 12:02 AM	#53
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Can I vote for a player and vote declare war?

04-20-2009, 12:05 AM	#56
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	I guess I'll wait for Pass to come in and tell me which one of my votes are valid or if both are then.

04-20-2009, 01:04 AM	#57
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	One article read and summarized down, three more and a bunch of other stuff to go!

04-20-2009, 06:08 AM	#58
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Heck yeah, 15 pages later, I am done!!! Now I am going to do a quick 3 page paper before heading to bed for a couple hours and waking up to go videotape a counseling session. And yes, I am sharing with you guys because it's 3 in the morning, I'm excited that my most difficult paper left is done and I'm not going to wake my wife up .

04-20-2009, 07:55 AM	#64
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm not sure I see the merit in going to war at this point but I'm listening. I fully intended to contribute more yesterday evening but apparently I just passed out sitting up in bed with the computer on my lap. Mm, alcohol.

04-20-2009, 07:56 AM	#65
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	You probably can no longer have kids after the laptop sat there all night.

04-20-2009, 07:58 AM	#66
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Thankfully I woke up at midnight and put the computer on the floor. What time is the deadline? I'm heading to the train in an hour.

04-20-2009, 08:07 AM	#67
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	2 PM Central, I believe. I think this war idea is a VERY bad idea as essentially we will be making it a traditional game of WW. Right now I think the wolves task is harder than normal. I don't think we should mess that up. I have sent my PM to Pass with my vote for Danny. Finally, assuming we do keep a 2 city structure, I will be voting for the Marathon runner automatically, as there's a 50/50 chance of them being a wolf.

04-20-2009, 08:26 AM	#68
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I am not going to push for it but I actually think war may not be the worst idea. We get double the roles (and yes, double the wolves) but that means we have two seers scanning simultaneously which, while this becomes a big game of werewolf we would be at the advantage I believe with double roles.

04-20-2009, 08:28 AM	#69
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	There are 19 players, 9 and 10 per city. With 9 players, I would assume 2 wolves (3 feels very high) With 10 players, I would assume 2 wolves as well. IF we go to one massive city, we have 19 players, 4 wolves (about standard) BUT we have double every other role. That's a pretty big advantage on our side IMHO.

04-20-2009, 08:29 AM	#70
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Nevermind the above, just caught the part about the roles having evil counterparts. No war for me. Hmmm, that was a waste of time and one of my few remaining brain cells.

04-20-2009, 08:30 AM	#72
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Hehe, Danny, why weren't you in my head ten minutes ago when I thought of all that garbage!

04-20-2009, 08:35 AM	#75
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	My vote when for Claphamsa

04-20-2009, 09:05 AM	#80
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	A question regarding being elected Elphor since I am up for discussion. Whoever is elected, do you think it is beneficial to reveal that they were elected or not, or is it best for the top candidates to stay silent about the result?

04-20-2009, 09:08 AM	#82
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	No sense in pooling our brains to come up with candidates and then have him out himself to the wolves. That wouldn't make any sense at all.

04-20-2009, 09:09 AM	#83
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I didn't want to possibly tip my hand afterwards, so wanted to clear this up beforehand.

04-20-2009, 09:45 AM	#90
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Looks right. Those votes are awfully spread out. I don't remember, what is the result of a tie?

04-20-2009, 09:47 AM	#91
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Players without votes are DT and I. I don't think DT has even checked into the thread yet.

04-20-2009, 09:50 AM	#93
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Question for ya Heinz and how you answer this question determines if I move my vote or not. Why does Claps vote for you not strike you as odd after your comeback, however, my vote for Saldana strikes you as a possible wolf hiding his vote? I've been voting for Saldana since before it was cool to vote for Saldana.

04-20-2009, 09:51 AM	#94
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Ok, so in the case of a tie, all the top vote getters get lynched. This is a tie mechanic I have not seen before. Has anybody experienced this before. It almost seems like a tie might favor the village by making the lynch to night kill 2:1 ratio.

04-20-2009, 09:54 AM	#99
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	That is unless there are 3 wolves. In that case even if we get one right it is game over after two days if we go that route.

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