Shooting at Connecticut School

[mckerney]

Andy Carvin ‏@acarvin
Did CBS just say that the other parent may have been murdered in NJ as well? #newtown

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by Logan

They released the name of Ryan Lanza. Found a guy on FB going by that name, currently living in Hoboken, NJ, originally from Newtown.

And there is a RIP page dedicated to this fucker already.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

And there is a RIP page dedicated to this fucker already.

Don't chase the trolls.

[mckerney]

CBS News ‏@CBSNews
BREAKING: WCBS-TV reports that shooter's mother was teacher at school, many of the victims apparently her students @CBSNewYork

[molson]

Originally Posted by Logan

They released the name of Ryan Lanza. Found a guy on FB going by that name, currently living in Hoboken, NJ, originally from Newtown.

And this may be his twitter.

Ryan Lanza (Ryan__Lanza) on Twitter

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Because these cowards that do this kind of stuff know they will face little resistance when they go to a school. A school like this is just a sitting duck for crazy people. I just can't believe someone could shoot kids.

fixed

[GoldenEagle]

Why is CBS still running with the father of one of the students story?

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by molson

And this may be his twitter.

Ryan Lanza (Ryan__Lanza) on Twitter

Sure as hell reads like it.

[Comey]

What the fuck. What in the fucking fuck.

Seriously. What the fuck.

Tonight's going to be wine-addled. I know this now. What the fuck. Any of my students that asks me about this...I have nothing to tell them. Nothing. There is nothing but sadness in my face right now, and the only thing I have in common with those in Newtown is that the Sandy Hook community, and the Groton community, are essentially the same (and therefore, it's in the back of my head that this could *easily* be my school...but it could be *any* school). I do know that, when I left school today (I left a bit early), we were on lockdown. And we're across the state, and along the shoreline.

What. The. Fuck.

I'm going for a bike ride, because frankly, I don't know what else to do with myself.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

What the fuck is wrong with people!!! Shoot yourself in the fucking head if you are so miserable!

self centered nuts with unwarranted self worth couldnt imagine going out all alone like that, they want to be "something" before they die

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Sure as hell reads like it.

Yeah. It's kind of eerie. It's obvious reading it now that the guy had real problems, but seeing it on twitter, it sounds like a melodramatic teen.

[Kodos]

Seriously scary.

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by Comey

What the fuck. What in the fucking fuck.

Seriously. What the fuck.

Tonight's going to be wine-addled. I know this now. What the fuck. Any of my students that asks me about this...I have nothing to tell them. Nothing. There is nothing but sadness in my face right now, and the only thing I have in common with those in Newtown is that the Sandy Hook community, and the Groton community, are essentially the same (and therefore, it's in the back of my head that this could *easily* be my school...but it could be *any* school). I do know that, when I left school today (I left a bit early), we were on lockdown. And we're across the state, and along the shoreline.

What. The. Fuck.

I'm going for a bike ride, because frankly, I don't know what else to do with myself.

Take it easy and take a lot of big breaths. Not much else you can do. My heart goes out to these families.

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

self centered nuts with unwarranted self worth couldnt imagine going out all alone like that, they want to be "something" before they die

Completely agree.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Logan

They released the name of Ryan Lanza. Found a guy on FB going by that name, currently living in Hoboken, NJ, originally from Newtown.

The facebook page that people were saying was the shooters apparently isn't.

[GoldenEagle]

That is really weird that there are two Ryan Lanza's from Newport, CT.

I looked at the girl on twitter who may have been the gf that broke up with him. She looked young, like 15 or 16 young.

[BrianD]

Am I the only one who would prefer to not know the name of the shooter? I don't really see a benefit in identifying him and making him an actual person. Referring to him only as Fucked-Up Loser would be fine with me. There is nothing special about people who do this.

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by mckerney

The facebook page that people were saying was the shooters apparently isn't.

Uhhh...was the Jessica girl asking if he needed stuff to take with him on the run????? On Facebook?????

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Uhhh...was the Jessica girl asking if he needed stuff to take with him on the run????? On Facebook?????

Yea, that is kind of weird.

That poor guy though. There have been about 10 pages created with his face on it.

[molson]

If I was non-shooting Ryan Lanza from Newton I'd probably get an early start on my weekend away too.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by molson

If I was non-shooting Ryan Lanza from Newton I'd probably get an early start on my weekend away too.

Yeah, probably had a shitty day already and couldn't blame him if he wanted to get away with possibly being swarmed with attention being mistaken as someone who'd shot a bunch of kids.

[digamma]

Photoshop?

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by digamma

Photoshop?

duh

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by BrianD

Am I the only one who would prefer to not know the name of the shooter? I don't really see a benefit in identifying him and making him an actual person. Referring to him only as Fucked-Up Loser would be fine with me. There is nothing special about people who do this.

I'm not sure why they release it at this stage. Maybe it would get dug up anyway, but how is this useful information for the public to have? Maybe it made sense before the Internet, but now you're just giving the green light to a bunch of amateur detectives/trolls/voyeurs before the cops even get a chance to do anything.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by molson

And this may be his twitter.

Ryan Lanza (Ryan__Lanza) on Twitter

Ryan Lanza ‏@Ryan__Lanza
so aperently im getting spammed bc someone with the same name as me killed some ppl... wtf?

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by molson

And this may be his twitter.

Ryan Lanza (Ryan__Lanza) on Twitter

If it is, he's back from the grave.

People assume too much. That is how most of the late teen early 20 somethings act nowadays.

[GoldenEagle]

CNN is reporting that principal and guidance counselor were killed in the shooting

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by mckerney

Ryan Lanza ‏@Ryan__Lanza
so aperently im getting spammed bc someone with the same name as me killed some ppl... wtf?

Way to be a self-centered dick. Edit: I mean non-shooter RL.

[saldana]

obama presser at 3:15EST..possibly annoucing an intent to ban assault weapons

[Autumn]

No way Obama does that.

And that Twitter and Facebook stuff is exactly why these names shouldn't be released.

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by saldana

obama presser at 3:15EST..possibly annoucing an intent to ban assault weapons

I doubt that. His press officer said earlier that this was not the day to address gun control.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Autumn

No way Obama does that.

And that Twitter and Facebook stuff is exactly why these names shouldn't be released.

Yeah, I'd be extremely surprised if he were to do that now.

[SirFozzie]

Even I who thinks that we need to have a discussion on the issue (see other thread) thinks that this would be a horrible time for Obama to say anything more then "Our thoughts and prayers are with those who were killed today in a senseless tragedy. America Mourns with you".

[molson]

Originally Posted by mckerney

Ryan Lanza ‏@Ryan__Lanza
so aperently im getting spammed bc someone with the same name as me killed some ppl... wtf?

Oops...well, at last I'm not the Huffington Post.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Even I who thinks that we need to have a discussion on the issue (see other thread) thinks that this would be a horrible time for Obama to say anything more then "Our thoughts and prayers are with those who were killed today in a senseless tragedy. America Mourns with you".

I love how your attempt to start a thread to discuss the issue (complete with warning in title it might get heated) was closed within like 5 posts.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by BrianD

Am I the only one who would prefer to not know the name of the shooter? I don't really see a benefit in identifying him and making him an actual person. Referring to him only as Fucked-Up Loser would be fine with me. There is nothing special about people who do this.

We could name them like hurricanes or let little kids name them. For instance, the wikipedia entry could say "Terdbrain Boogerpants killed 24 people in a Connecticut school massacre on December 14th, 2012".

I love that whashisname is still known as the "underpants bomber". Doesn't make him sound scary or famous, just comically stupid.

SI

[cougarfreak]

Just getting to pick up my two elementary kids after a day of teaching. Could not even imagine this happening. Why don't pieces of shit like this just do themselves in?

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I love how your attempt to start a thread to discuss the issue (complete with warning in title it might get heated) was closed within like 5 posts.

That's why I started the other thread, DT. I certainly don't agree with the decision (and one of the reasons I created that thread was to have a safety valve release) , but let's keep it out of this thread.

[Arles]

I posted this on FB, but at what point do we consider having an armed "air marshall style" security person randomly assigned to schools (or even permanently stationed)? Armed guards are placed in numerous situations where "valuables" are stored: Museums, banks, Hotels with vaults,... Is it time that we consider using an armed guard at a school? What's more valuable to us as a society than 200-300 elementary school kids unable to protect themselves against this kind of threat?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Given that within a fairly short period of time, an entire town is going to know the name & that they aren't going to be held incommunicado ... better than the name be released than have it turned into an internet meme with a totally bogus name. And yeah, that's what would happen. At least this way if someone decides to mess with Billy Joe Bubblebrain, reasonably intelligent people are going to know he wasn't the shooter (since the name is out there).

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Arles

I posted this on FB, but at what point do we consider having an armed "air marshall style" security person randomly assigned to schools (or even permanently stationed)? Armed guards are placed in numerous situations where "valuables" are stored: Museums, banks, Hotels with vaults,... Is it time that we consider using an armed guard at a school? What's more valuable to us as a society than 200-300 elementary school kids unable to protect themselves against this kind of threat?

Those are not uncommon on a number of campuses already.

edit to add: School resource officers (or other generic names for campus cops) that are sworn & certified law enforcement personnel usually carry, at least in my experience.

[molson]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

We could name them like hurricanes or let little kids name them. For instance, the wikipedia entry could say "Terdbrain Boogerpants killed 24 people in a Connecticut school massacre on December 14th, 2012".

I love that whashisname is still known as the "underpants bomber". Doesn't make him sound scary or famous, just comically stupid.

SI

I think it's just one of those prices of freedom things. Maybe we'd all be safer if the media just didn't report on this story at all. I don't want to live in that country though.

[Noop]

Careful with all this talk about guns because Skydog will ban you.

[spleen1015]

I don't have any words, man. WTF?

[lungs]

Speaking of mistaken identity, I went to school with a guy with the same name as the Northern Illinois shooter. The principal of my High School must've wanted to get in the limelight as he volunteered information that the shooter had gone to high school here..... Only problem was it wasn't him.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Noop

Careful with all this talk about guns because Skydog will ban you.

I badly want to take this and run with it in a humerous way, but this isn't the thread for it.

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by Arles

I posted this on FB, but at what point do we consider having an armed "air marshall style" security person randomly assigned to schools (or even permanently stationed)? Armed guards are placed in numerous situations where "valuables" are stored: Museums, banks, Hotels with vaults,... Is it time that we consider using an armed guard at a school? What's more valuable to us as a society than 200-300 elementary school kids unable to protect themselves against this kind of threat?

This is one of the times I am glad that my wife teaches at an urban school. They have two full time police officers on the campus at all times. When we go to sporting events, they have cops in full body armor and strapped with automatic rifles.

[GoldenEagle]

The shooter's brother was found dead in the apartment, according to CNN.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by molson

Maybe we'd all be safer if the media just didn't report on this story at all.

I do not want to sidetrack into a full blown discussion of it in this thread, but I do think it's worth noting that one of the primary reasons that things likes names of suspects are arrested is to reduce the government's ability to just have people "disappear" without a trace.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

The shooter's brother was found dead in the apartment, according to CNN.

Depending on who is right the shooters brother is either in custody as a suspected second gunman or dead at their parent's residence, and the brother's girlfriend may new dead or missing with another friend in New Jersey. Not a lot of good information anywhere yet