Coach fired after his team wins Basketball game 100-0

[Axxon]

Originally Posted by Lathum

nobody knows what the facts are so how can I argue them?

I refuse to believe he was fired because of his letter, this continued to get A TON of media attention after the initial story and the schools desicion to initialy keep him.

If the losing school had just let it go he would still have his job, letter or not.

Find one cite showing the losing school making any noise at all about this. You can't. Didn't happen. Why lie about it? This all came from the winning school and the press.

This article has a good bit from the Dallas Academy coach.

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spectators said the Covenant School ran up the score, playing aggressive offense, even with their 59-0 lead at halftime. The girls kept on the pressure until they scored the 100th point.

"I was really frustrated, especially at halftime," Dallas Academy junior Lauren Click said. "I actually did ask my coach, 'Do we have to go back out there?'"
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The Dallas Academy has eight girls on the varsity team and is used to challenges on and off the court. Despite hours in the gym practicing each week, the Bulldogs haven't won a girls basketball game in five years.

"We are not quitters, and we don't give up," Click said. "And we try hard at whatever we do, even if we are losing 100 to 0."

The girls hold no illusion that they would be able to play varsity basketball at a more competitive school like Covenant, whose star player is featured in YouTube videos. But the girls still enjoy the chance to get out on the court and compete.

"I was frustrated, but we got through and we did it," said Eleanor Callan, a Dallas Academy player. "I think we did a really good job, and I'm proud that we did what we did. We played really hard, no matter what the score was."

The team decided to turn a losing situation into a learning one, starting with a lesson in defense.

"We figured it can't get worse so we might as well start learning from them," said Shelby Hyatt, a Dallas Academy player.

Above all, coach Jeremy Civello said he is proud that the Dallas Academy Bulldogs persevered.

"I told them at the game ... that I probably would have quit at their age," said Dallas Academy's athletic director Jeremy Civello. "The fact that they didn't, I don't think there's anything these girls will face in their lives that they are going to back down from."

Damn, dude just won't let it go will he?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I agree with Axxon, I think the firing came when the coach spoke out. If he had apologized whole heartidly, I think he'd still have a job.

why should he apologize if he doesn't think he did anything wrong?

Shouldn't he have a right to tell his side of the story?

also, his letter was well written and not overly critical of his school, he basicly said he disagrees with them.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Lathum

dola- I agree there is a certain level of messed up to this story, I'm just not sure the coach deserved to be fired over this. Everyone is saying this is a "Christian " school. Wouldn't the "Christian" thing to do be forgive the coach if they truly felt he did something wrong?

Depending on your particular beliefs, asking for forgiveness is the crucial action.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Lathum

why should he apologize if he doesn't think he did anything wrong?

Shouldn't he have a right to tell his side of the story?

also, his letter was well written and not overly critical of his school, he basicly said he disagrees with them.

And the school decided that they didn't want to employ someone who has a different view of the situation. He has the right to tell his side of the story, no one stopped him from that.

[Samdari]

Originally Posted by Lathum

So you are telling me this school has a zero tolerance policy and thats why he was fired and not because of a continued media outcry against what happened, despite people not nowing all the facts?

The school is making public statements that what happened in this game is inconsistent with the values and mission of the institution.

The coach is making public statements that, essentially, he does not agree with that.

I am telling you that you will get fired from any religious institution for making public statements that you do not agree with what the leaders of that institution say its values are. You would get fired from many secular organizations for doing the same thing, but, from religious institutions, I believe it would be 100%.

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by rowech

The kids are not disabled in that way...they have things like severe ADD, dyslexia. They are fine physically.

I said learning disabled in my post, and they are that.

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by MJ4H

I said learning disabled in my post, and they are that.

The term 'learning disabled' conveys a feeling of more severe mental retardation to me, and probably 90% of others, unless clarified.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

The term 'learning disabled' conveys a feeling of more severe mental retardation to me, and probably 90% of others, unless clarified.

Really? Learning disabled does not conjure images of mental retardation to me at all. I thought it was a pretty accepted term for much less severe learning issues.

[boberot]

Originally Posted by wade moore

Really? Learning disabled does not conjure images of mental retardation to me at all. I thought it was a pretty accepted term for much less severe learning issues.

I agree with this statement.

[I'm not an expert, but I've worked for an agency that assists people with disabilities for the past decade.]

[Noop]

The losing coach should have forfeited the game at half time. It is not the winning teams job to sandbag it because the other team sucks. I understand the sportsmanship but the losing teams should have asked for a stoppage and pack up and go home.

[rowech]

Originally Posted by Noop

The losing coach should have forfeited the game at half time. It is not the winning teams job to sandbag it because the other team sucks. I understand the sportsmanship but the losing teams should have asked for a stoppage and pack up and go home.

Most high school state rules say that if a team forefits they are not eligible for post-season tournament play.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by wade moore

Really? Learning disabled does not conjure images of mental retardation to me at all. I thought it was a pretty accepted term for much less severe learning issues.

I guess I'm somewhere in the middle, as context can provide clues to the degrees of disability. I will say that the way it was being used in connection to this story has me picturing it as being quite severe conditions, not something like (as someone referenced up the thread) ADD. Hell, I'd be shocked if there was a school in the country that didn't have at least one or two players with ADD on their roster at this point.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Noop

The losing coach should have forfeited the game at half time. It is not the winning teams job to sandbag it because the other team sucks. I understand the sportsmanship but the losing teams should have asked for a stoppage and pack up and go home.

Noop gets it in short order.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Samdari

but, from religious institutions, I believe it would be 100%.

Nope, not even close.

And to be honest, in at least the majority of non-Catholic schools here (where I believe there's a great deal more church institutional control than in other denominations; i.e. diocesean level or above) I'd say there's a very good chance that any conflict between administrators & a coach who can beat anybody 100-0 is going to go in favor of the coach more than half the time.

You can do what you want but I don't recommend bucking a successful coach (of anything) in this state unless you're willing to lose the battle, and especially not at small private schools where coaching talent is very hard to attract due to the lower salaries.

If they're caught banging a student or something that's one thing, but getting fired for winning? Could happen, but damned sure isn't likely.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by rowech

Most high school state rules say that if a team forefits they are not eligible for post-season tournament play.

That team wasn't going to the playoffs anyway.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Axxon

I agree and so did the school since they pulled the team from the league. The girls hadn't won in 4 years and had been totally blown out several times this season. They clearly didn't belong in that league but they had no problem with it until this loss.

Well at least something good comes out of this.

[Samdari]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

You can do what you want but I don't recommend bucking a successful coach (of anything) in this state unless you're willing to lose the battle, and especially not at small private schools where coaching talent is very hard to attract due to the lower salaries.

If they're caught banging a student or something that's one thing, but getting fired for winning? Could happen, but damned sure isn't likely.

I think this is pretty small time athletics here. Girls basketball at tiny parochial schools.

I need you to provide examples of coaches who have come out and said, "I fundamentally disagree with the values of the administration. I am going to ignore them and continue in my duties under a different set of values" I don't believe it has happened that often.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Noop

The losing coach should have forfeited the game at half time. It is not the winning teams job to sandbag it because the other team sucks. I understand the sportsmanship but the losing teams should have asked for a stoppage and pack up and go home.

This isn't fighting for a BCS spot and millions of dollars. It's women's high school basketball. It should be about girls going out there and having a good time. Playing a competitive sport and learning good sportsmanship.

And showing good sportsmanship is not "sandbagging it". No one is saying they should let them score or purposely miss shots. Just that they should have held the ball longer, cut off the press, and loosened the aggressiveness of their defense. Things that any coach in any sport would do, especially against a team that is clearly at a disadvantage.

In the end, the schools determine what they want taught to their students. The school felt that sportsmanship and class was more important than a meaningless milestone in a girl's high school basketball game. Good for them. The sport is in better shape getting rid of jagoffs like that.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I guess I'm somewhere in the middle, as context can provide clues to the degrees of disability. I will say that the way it was being used in connection to this story has me picturing it as being quite severe conditions, not something like (as someone referenced up the thread) ADD. Hell, I'd be shocked if there was a school in the country that didn't have at least one or two players with ADD on their roster at this point.

I don't think it's mental retardation, but a learning disability can be severe. I think we've all run across kids that were "slow". Not ADD slow, but mentally slow. Forrest Gump of sorts with a slower neurological system and lower overall IQs than the average high school student.

My guess is that it was a mix of different conditions. I'd guess that these conditions played an impact on how well they could play basketball.

[RainMaker]

While I think the coach should have been fired, another issue worth mentioning is why the school was allowed to participate this long on that level. They clearly had no business playing schools like that and were not remotely competitive.

I don't know if there is a lower level of high school sports, but shouldn't the state have done something. Perhaps setup games against similar schools in and out of state. Allowed them to team up with another school. I don't know, something creative could have been done.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

This isn't fighting for a BCS spot and millions of dollars. It's women's high school basketball. It should be about girls going out there and having a good time. Playing a competitive sport and learning good sportsmanship.

And showing good sportsmanship is not "sandbagging it". No one is saying they should let them score or purposely miss shots. Just that they should have held the ball longer, cut off the press, and loosened the aggressiveness of their defense. Things that any coach in any sport would do, especially against a team that is clearly at a disadvantage.

In the end, the schools determine what they want taught to their students. The school felt that sportsmanship and class was more important than a meaningless milestone in a girl's high school basketball game. Good for them. The sport is in better shape getting rid of jagoffs like that.

So women are suppose to be given special treatment because they are girls? I am sure feminist would disagree with you. You learn sportsmanship at the pre-highschool level, once you reach highschool and pass your "feelings" don't and shouldn't matter.

Also you must have never played sports in your life, just because you aren't playing for money doesn't mean its not worth kicking the other teams ass.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

While I think the coach should have been fired, another issue worth mentioning is why the school was allowed to participate this long on that level. They clearly had no business playing schools like that and were not remotely competitive.

I don't know if there is a lower level of high school sports, but shouldn't the state have done something. Perhaps setup games against similar schools in and out of state. Allowed them to team up with another school. I don't know, something creative could have been done.

Instead of that pussy footing how about telling the other team to suck it up and try harder.

[rowech]

Originally Posted by Noop

That team wasn't going to the playoffs anyway.

Most states, all basketball teams go to the tournament no matter what.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by rowech

Most states, all basketball teams go to the tournament no matter what.

I highly doubt that but whatever. Either way they weren't going to win any championship much less give a top seed a competitive game.

[Klinglerware]

It's not completely on topic, but...

This reminds me of when one of my younger brothers' played varsity baseball. One season, his team played a school for the deaf. My brother's team was probably a little over-confident and ended up blowing the lead they had (the game was eventually called on account of darkness).

Some of those schools for the deaf actually field some very competitive teams (e.g., Gallaudet at the college level). So it seems that in many cases, it is actually the low enrollment, rather than the fact that the athletes have disabilities, that are at the heart of poor performance.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by rowech

Most states, all basketball teams go to the tournament no matter what.

Umm ... huh?

In Georgia only 4 teams from each region go to the state tournament (albeit most have a region tournament or even sub-region tournament as part of the qualifying process). That'd be less than 1/3rd of all teams.

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

The term 'learning disabled' conveys a feeling of more severe mental retardation to me, and probably 90% of others, unless clarified.

Wow. That would surprise me a lot.

[Marc Vaughan]

Strange thing is I grew up playing soccer in England, I lived in a relatively rural area and in that era fair play was only kicking the opposition players when they were standing on their feet - anything else was fair game.

My scout troop regularly won matches with scores in double figures (I actually remember our keeper coming up to try and score during one match because he was the only one on the team who hadn't) ... I also played on a school (and eventually university) team who were bloody awful.

The peak of my university teams career was us drawing a match 1-1, with matches lost as badly as 14-0.

You know what it built character and taught me that you can't always win but should always try hard and be graceful even when losing.

I agree with not hammering a team into the ground from an adults perspective, but unless its proven that the coach demonstrated absusive sportsmanship I don't think he should be punished at all - losing and losing hard is part of life, protecting kids from it totally isn't a good thing at all.

PS - My eldest son has started playing soccer and his team got hammered a few times recently (10+ goal deficits), the coach in question was very graceful and it wasn't his fault that his comp team is playing in a rec league because their old league closed down - the coach eased off as much as possible during the match, but simply their players were better than ours.
The third time we played his team (its a small league) we tried instead to mix up the teams and find a balanced opposition and you know what - the kids hated it, they're not stupid and would prefer to lose in good spirit than be pandered to - an attitude I personally respect.

[muns]

im amazed this has gotten this much play.

The coach is an ass point blank and I have no problems with him being fired. Once you start winning in basketball by 30 you need to take the foot off the pedal and start showing some class. If you hit 100 with your subs in, press off, and your walking the ball up the court congrats, but no one can tell me he did that. I dont need to know the facts or not. Its impossible time wise in womens basketball to do that without pressing, and running and gunning.

You cant tell your players to stop playing and trying to score, (your bench kids need work too) however you as the coach do have a direct influence on how the game is being played and what is being run. So be the grown up, be the guy thats been beaten by 30 point before and realize its not fun for your own kids when it happens, and dont destory the other kids desire to play the game. Thats just BS and has no business being in sports period.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Noop

So women are suppose to be given special treatment because they are girls? I am sure feminist would disagree with you. You learn sportsmanship at the pre-highschool level, once you reach highschool and pass your "feelings" don't and shouldn't matter.

Also you must have never played sports in your life, just because you aren't playing for money doesn't mean its not worth kicking the other teams ass.

Difference in kicking a teams ass and embarassing them. 50-0 is kicking their ass. They accomplished that. They beat a team of disabled kids, yippee!

And you must have never played sports in your life if you've never heard of letting up when the game is out of hand.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Noop

Instead of that pussy footing how about telling the other team to suck it up and try harder.

That's usually not how sports are played. Like I said, this was a regular seasons women's high school basketball game. Not the Final Four. There is no reason to run up the score on a disadvantaged team.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Difference in kicking a teams ass and embarassing them. 50-0 is kicking their ass. They accomplished that. They beat a team of disabled kids, yippee!

And you must have never played sports in your life if you've never heard of letting up when the game is out of hand.

Actually I have played sports and have been blown out before and have been on teams that have blown out the other team. My coach always told us to play hard because if given the chance the other team would gladly kick our ass.

We need to stop pampering these kids and giving them delusions that they are better then what they are, if you suck you suck go find something else to do with your life.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Noop

Actually I have played sports and have been blown out before and have been on teams that have blown out the other team. My coach always told us to play hard because if given the chance the other team would gladly kick our ass.

We need to stop pampering these kids and giving them delusions that they are better then what they are, if you suck you suck go find something else to do with your life.

You would be in the extreme minority of opinion in the sports world. Most coaches in sports let up when their team has the game clearly in hand. It's a sign of sportsmanship and class.

And give it up with the "you suck go find something else to do with your life" crap. It's women's high school basketball, not competing executives at a Fortune 500 company.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Noop

Actually I have played sports and have been blown out before and have been on teams that have blown out the other team. My coach always told us to play hard because if given the chance the other team would gladly kick our ass.

We need to stop pampering these kids and giving them delusions that they are better then what they are, if you suck you suck go find something else to do with your life.

Your just not getting this. 50-0 is kicking someones ass. 100-0 is rubbing it in for no reason, showing no class, and needs to get fired. This isnt the WNBA where they are getting paid to play and could handle a beat down like that.

We arent pampering these kids. Sports isnt all about winning 100-0, and if you think that you are sadly mistaken. I guess if you suck sports cant teach you anything about life then?

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Strange thing is I grew up playing soccer in England, I lived in a relatively rural area and in that era fair play was only kicking the opposition players when they were standing on their feet - anything else was fair game.

My scout troop regularly won matches with scores in double figures (I actually remember our keeper coming up to try and score during one match because he was the only one on the team who hadn't) ... I also played on a school (and eventually university) team who were bloody awful.

The peak of my university teams career was us drawing a match 1-1, with matches lost as badly as 14-0.

You know what it built character and taught me that you can't always win but should always try hard and be graceful even when losing.

I agree with not hammering a team into the ground from an adults perspective, but unless its proven that the coach demonstrated absusive sportsmanship I don't think he should be punished at all - losing and losing hard is part of life, protecting kids from it totally isn't a good thing at all.

PS - My eldest son has started playing soccer and his team got hammered a few times recently (10+ goal deficits), the coach in question was very graceful and it wasn't his fault that his comp team is playing in a rec league because their old league closed down - the coach eased off as much as possible during the match, but simply their players were better than ours.
The third time we played his team (its a small league) we tried instead to mix up the teams and find a balanced opposition and you know what - the kids hated it, they're not stupid and would prefer to lose in good spirit than be pandered to - an attitude I personally respect.

Unfortunately, here in America, the "Everyone's a winner" crap is rampant. The way I was brought up, if you lose you lose, go out and get 'em next time and it actually made me try harder.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by JediKooter

Unfortunately, here in America, the "Everyone's a winner" crap is rampant. The way I was brought up, if you lose you lose, go out and get 'em next time and it actually made me try harder.

Pussy footed liberals like muns and rainmaker think everyone should be a winner and made to feel good.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Noop

Pussy footed liberals like muns and rainmaker think everyone should be a winner and made to feel good.

No, I just don't need to beat a group of disabled kids by 100 because I have low self esteem like you.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JediKooter

Unfortunately, here in America, the "Everyone's a winner" crap is rampant. The way I was brought up, if you lose you lose, go out and get 'em next time and it actually made me try harder.

This has nothing to do with the "Everyone's a winner" crap. No one is disputing the winner of the game or saying the other team shouldn't have tried to win the game. It's about basic sportsmanship, something found in every sport in every country.

[JPhillips]

Good to see social Darwinism making a comeback.

[Lathum]

I wonder if the losing team was trying their hardest until the end, if they were then what's wrong with the winning team continuing to try hard?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

This has nothing to do with the "Everyone's a winner" crap. No one is disputing the winner of the game or saying the other team shouldn't have tried to win the game. It's about basic sportsmanship, something found in every sport in every country.

Would you prefer high school sports shouldn't keep score, that way no ones feelings are hurt.

[Young Drachma]

In high school, my freshman year were decimated with a lack of players. Guys quit, some got kicked off the team and well, by the end of the year we had just 3 guys on our tennis team.

That meant each of us had to win in order for us for us to get the team win, since we showed up at matches down 0-2.

But we still traveled to those last few matches, in tow with our best player (who was always good for a win) me and this one guy who wasn't that great, but was a nice enough guy.

Well I recall showing up and telling my coach "Let me play #2 singles, so our #1 guy and the other guy who came could play #3 and might have a shot to win"

Coach was skeptical. I was a freshman and the guy playing me was gonna pound me. But he did it. We of course, did lose 4-1, but the guy I played -- who again, should've beat me into the ground -- came up to the net at one point and said "What do you want the score to be?"

I said "what?"

He said, "What do you want the score to be?"

I told him to let me have at least a game, because I never got to play singles and at least I could say I'd won a game at #2.

I ended up winning 2, one because he gave me one and one in the second set because I was serving well and aced him 3 times and then won a point on my own or at least, he made it look convincing.

I once coached a junior basketball team that won 74-14 in a game that lasted too long, but we didn't demoralize the other team, I had guys running slowly and trying not to score and played my scrubs who also just scored a lot.

I don't ever believe in pummeling someone into submission and I believe you have to put kids at their own ability levels.

But kids know what it's like to lose, most of them, and if you steer them in the right direction, they'll do the right thing.

This result isn't about whiny kids, it's about a coach who isn't very good at his craft and I'd have fired him too, because it it's the sort of attention the school didn't need.

I've coached (tennis) for years and there are a lot of ways to handle a matchup like that and none of them involve cheating, making your players not play anymore or any of that. You just give them their beating and then send them home. But he could've turned that game into a practice, rather than embarass them and it could've been a positive story of sportsmanship.

If that was their arch rival who was similarly matched? I say take it to 'em. But otherwise? You have to use discretion. I don't blame the kids at all, but the coach HAS to know better.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Noop

Pussy footed liberals like muns and rainmaker think everyone should be a winner and made to feel good.

lol right ya caught me!! Ive been outed as a pussy footed liberal.

Im actually impressed that the coach that ran up the score didnt get beaten up after the game. I mean cause in your world that would have been correct as well right???

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

We of course, did lose 4-1, but the guy I played -- who again, should've beat me into the ground -- came up to the net at one point and said "What do you want the score to be?"

I said "what?"

He said, "What do you want the score to be?"

I told him to let me have at least a game, because I never got to play singles and at least I could say I'd won a game at #2.

I ended up winning 2, one because he gave me one and one in the second set because I was serving well and aced him 3 times and then won a point on my own or at least, he made it look convincing.

I am probably gonna get hammered for this, but IMO thats kind of pathetic.

Did it really make you feel better about yourself knowing he laid down a game and made it look good in the process?

I would rather get killed then have someone take pity on me, maybe it's just how I was raised. My father played chess with me every night starting when I was 8. He never took it easy on me and never let me win, he would fix my mistakes and I would learn from them. It took me ubtil I was 12 to beat him.

I played sports my whole life, and have been on both sides of a beatdown.

We are obviously different people, but if that guy came to the net and asked me what I wanted the score to be, I would never have asked him for a game, that to me would be sacrifising my dignity. I would have told him to go fuck himself.

Sorry if that offends you in any way, it's just not how I would have reacted in that situation.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I am probably gonna get hammered for this, but IMO thats kind of pathetic.

Did it really make you feel better about yourself knowing he laid down a game and made it look good in the process?

I would rather get killed then have someone take pity on me, maybe it's just how I was raised. My father played chess with me every night starting when I was 8. He never took it easy on me and never let me win, he would fix my mistakes and I would learn from them. It took me ubtil I was 12 to beat him.

I played sports my whole life, and have been on both sides of a beatdown.

We are obviously different people, but if that guy came to the net and asked me what I wanted the score to be, I would never have asked him for a game, that to me would be sacrifising my dignity. I would have told him to go fuck himself.

Sorry if that offends you in any way, it's just not how I would have reacted in that situation.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Would you prefer high school sports shouldn't keep score, that way no ones feelings are hurt.

No. We aren't talking about winning and losing, we're talking about running up the score. Are NFL players and coaches pussies for taking a knee at the end of games? Are baseball players pussies for not stealing with a 10 run lead?

To constitute not running up the score with being pussies who don't want to keep score shows an ignorance to what is going on in sports.

[MJ4H]

In my opinion this is just a basic sportsmanship issue, and I am pretty disappointed that there are many that don't share this opinion.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

No. We aren't talking about winning and losing, we're talking about running up the score. Are NFL players and coaches pussies for taking a knee at the end of games? Are baseball players pussies for not stealing with a 10 run lead?

To constitute not running up the score with being pussies who don't want to keep score shows an ignorance to what is going on in sports.

NFL players take a knee so nothing crazy happens (Herm Edwards).

If you keep score there is the potential to run that score up. If we eliminate keeping score everyone can hug after the game and go pick flowers and eat cookies.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by MJ4H

In my opinion this is just a basic sportsmanship issue, and I am pretty disappointed that there are many that don't share this opinion.

I don't neccesaraly disagree with it, I just think it is BS the coach got fired when his account of what happend is very different.

They only scored 12 4th quarter points for example.

I would bet my house you can probably find scores from high school sports almost everyday where there are 60-80 point blow outs.

This one is being so blown out of preportion because a writer who wasn't even at the game is stating something as fact that the coach is saying never happened.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Lathum

NFL players take a knee so nothing crazy happens (Herm Edwards).

If you keep score there is the potential to run that score up. If we eliminate keeping score everyone can hug after the game and go pick flowers and eat cookies.

Who is this directed at? There's no one on this board arguing that the game should have ended in a tie.