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Old 12-02-2005, 08:13 PM   #51
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What about "bump" for old threads?

Also the Ping thread to alert the whole board that you have PM'd someone but their box is full?
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Old 12-02-2005, 08:40 PM   #52
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:33 PM   #53
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Don't forget the reverse threadkill. That's were you fire off a nice threadkill post, but in reality, you want it to backfire on purpose, which leads to any of the above things.

Have to be careful though, you fire off one that is too good, and it will kill the thread
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:35 PM   #54
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Paging flere...how about a diagram for this?
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:36 PM   #55
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Another great way to increase your thread count is to write a long drawn out post. Someone will surely call you out with a one-liner, and then you can bash them for it...
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:38 PM   #56
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dola: that last technique, is called "Small novel mode"
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:52 PM   #57
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Don't know if it's worth anything but whenever a certain poster makes a post about a historical event, the requisite reply is to say something along the lines of that poster having been there when it happened. What would you call it?
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Old 12-02-2005, 10:00 PM   #58
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Funny.
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:58 PM   #59
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Old 12-03-2005, 12:19 AM   #60
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Old 12-03-2005, 12:57 AM   #61
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:45 AM   #62
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You should change the title of this thread to WWJD? (What Would Jeeber Do?)

I think we should add it as a t-shirt in flere's cafe press store. I'd buy it. Maybe a thong too.
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:16 AM   #63
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I think we should add it as a t-shirt in flere's cafe press store. I'd buy it. Maybe a thong too.

pix plz, k thx
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:35 AM   #64
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Ant, also need to put "Sign up for a Werewolf thread" in there somewhere. That really pads the post count.
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:29 AM   #65
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:49 AM   #66
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In before the lock.

Why would this be locked?
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:49 AM   #67
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I think we should add it as a t-shirt in flere's cafe press store. I'd buy it. Maybe a thong too.

That just made my day...
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:23 AM   #68
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Why would this be locked?

I was kidding. Plus, I was post whoring.
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Old 12-03-2005, 12:59 PM   #69
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That just made my day...
Well its not as if you'd get to see it. You need at least 20,000 posts before I'd send pixplsthx.
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Old 12-03-2005, 01:06 PM   #70
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Old 12-03-2005, 01:23 PM   #71
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dola: that last technique, is called "Small novel mode"

I just call that Chief Rumming
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Old 12-03-2005, 02:04 PM   #72
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Ok I added Raiders Army, Farrah's and Airhog's.
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Old 12-03-2005, 02:24 PM   #73
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I was kidding. Plus, I was post whoring.

I'm so slow.

Duh...
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:12 PM   #74
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We need Heybrad to post, so somebody can "Hey Brad!"
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:34 PM   #75
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What? Seductive posting? I don't know if I should laugh or feign offense that someone thinks I use seductive posting.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:35 PM   #76
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What? Seductive posting? I don't know if I should laugh or feign offense that someone thinks I use seductive posting.

See, you are doing it again. You used the word seductive and laughing in the same post.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:37 PM   #77
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See, you are doing it again. You used the word seductive and laughing in the same post.
I always seductively laugh at patriotic panties, especially if they're worn by trout. Or worn with matching socks and ants.

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Old 12-03-2005, 04:43 PM   #78
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I always seductively laugh at patriotic panties, especially if they're worn by trout. Or worn with matching socks and ants.

Damn it! Falling for her post count trap, but I hope trout is not something you and Arlie use as a code word for something else. And when do you match socks with ants? That leaves you with only two colors to choose from.
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Old 12-03-2005, 05:03 PM   #79
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Damn it! Falling for her post count trap, but I hope trout is not something you and Arlie use as a code word for something else. And when do you match socks with ants? That leaves you with only two colors to choose from.
Damn. I got nothing.
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Old 12-03-2005, 05:32 PM   #80
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Old 12-03-2005, 05:44 PM   #81
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oooh, the Heybrad technique is a good one, but its main flaw is that it is limited to heybrad posting.

I think another technique would be called Hatricking. This is where you join Hattrick, and 90% of yours posts are in the hattrick forum. People call you a lurker when you post in the main forums, even though you have 4000 posts...
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:27 PM   #82
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:32 PM   #83
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Old 12-03-2005, 09:05 PM   #84
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oooh, the Heybrad technique is a good one, but its main flaw is that it is limited to heybrad posting.

A post is a post is a post.
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true, but you only get a heybrad post a few times a month.
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Old 12-04-2005, 12:38 AM   #90
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1980

Geoff Downes and Trevor Horn (The Buggles) are brought in to replace the departed Rick Wakeman and Jon Anderson in YES. They join forces with Steve Howe, Chris Squire and Alan White. The "Drama" album results from the coalition, and a world tour follows. It soon becomes apparent that the Yes-faithful will not accept Trevor Horn as a replacement for Jon Anderson. Yes dissolves, with Horn and Downes returning to the studio for work on The Buggles' second release "Adventures In Modern Recording."

Coincidentally, another British Prog Band, UK, has dissolved. John Wetton had been searching for a new sound ever since his days with Robert Fripp in King Crimson, and UK had been the logical next step in that search. Originally a quartet with Eddie Jobson (Keyboards), Bill Bruford (Drums), and Alan Holdsworth (Guitar), Bruford and Holdsworth leave UK after the band's debut album. Drummer Terry Bozzio is brought in, and UK continues as a trio. Two more albums, "Danger Money" and "Night After Night" result from this line-up before internal difficulties between Wetton & Jobson caused an irreparable split. It is time for John Wetton to reach for the top-40 success he has so longed for. Waiting for a project to come along, he records his first solo album--"Caught In The Crossfire."

On the heels of the "Love Beach" album, Emerson, Lake & Palmer have taken their final bow. Together with a group of American musicians, Carl Palmer forms a new band--PM. One album results before the band splits.

1981

January, 1981. Steve Howe and John Wetton meet and begin writing and playing with an eye towards doing a project together. Eventually, they decide to form a band. Downes & Palmer round out the quartet and a name--"ASIA" is chosen (rumoured to have been the suggestion of manager Brian Lane). Recording begins at a furious pace.

1982

"Asia," the debut record, is released. A modest tour begins. However, what happens next is unexpected. The album, along with the first single ("Heat of the Moment") rocket to the top of the charts. Nine million copies of the debut album are sold world-wide. The band is unprepared for such acclaim, given they only have 45 minutes of material for a live show.

A successful world tour follows. In order to round out a full show, individual solos and demo versions of songs for their next album are added into the mix. Two official videos--"Heat of the Moment" and "Only Time Will Tell" are also released. While on tour to support the album, a video is also shot for "Sole Survivor." It is rarely seen (simply a live shot of the band), and soon slips into obscurity. A video for "Wildest Dreams" is also commissioned, but it is deemed 'too extreme' by the band for it's graphic war footage.

As the tour wears on, some cracks begin to appear in the band's personal chemistry.

1983

In order to avoid the British tax man, the band is advised to spend some time outside of the UK. They turn to Morin Heights, just outside of Montreal, Quebec. It is very cold, and isolated from the outside world. Production begins once again with Mike Stone. Immediately, Downes & Wetton emerge as the 'writing team' for the album. Steve Howe, with five writing credits on the debut record, is completely shut out. Tensions begin to mount between Howe and Wetton.

"Alpha" is finally released. Two more official videos are produced--"'Don't Cry" and "The Smile Has Left Your Eyes." More touring continues. On September 10th, John Wetton unknowingly plays his last date with the band (for now) at the Pine Knob in Detroit, Michigan.

Behind the scenes, Geffen and Asia's management are outraged that "Alpha" is failing to meet the expectations set by the first record. Pressure is exerted for a major change, and John Wetton is removed from the band. Greg Lake (ex of ELP) is brought in to replace Wetton for the band's "ASIA IN ASIA" show for MTV in December.

1984

Lake departs when it becomes clear that his voice does not suit the band's material. Geffen and Asia's management realize Wetton's commercial value as lead singer, and lure him back into the fold. Unable to make things work with Wetton, Steve Howe leaves the band while writing for the third album. Mandy Meyer (ex of Krokus) comes in on guitar. Seemingly endless studio work continues.

1985

Third album, "Astra," finally released. One more video--"Go" is produced. "Astra" fails to live up to expectations commercially, and all tour plans are cancelled. For all intents and purposes, Asia is finished as a band.

Never to play with Asia in concert, Mandy Meyer goes on to form Katmandu in 1990, along with former Fastway singer Dave King, Mike Alonso on drums, and Caine Carruthers on bass.

1986

An EP, "Aurora" is released in Japan. It is a limited release with only 20,000 copies allegedly produced. It contains the song "Too Late" from "Astra," and three single b-sides--"Ride Easy," "Lying To Yourself" and "Daylight."

Following the collapse of Asia, Geoff Downes returns to the studio to begin recording his first solo album.

Steve Howe (with Geoff Downes producing) forms GTR with Steve Hackett (ex of Genesis) and Max Bacon. A world tour follows with mild success on the basis of a single--"When The Heart Rules The Mind."

Through GTR's bass player, Phil Spalding, Downes is introduced to bassist/vocalist John Payne.

John Wetton records a duo album with Phil Manzanera (ex of Roxy Music). Album is simply titled "Wetton/Manzanera."

John Wetton gathers a group of friends together at The Marquee Club in London, England. Wetton, Carl Palmer, Phil Manzanera, Robin George and Don Airey play two nights, June 4th & 5th. A wide variety of music is performed, including "Don't Cry," "Keep On Loving Yourself" and a few standards.

1987

Wetton records "Gypsy Soul" under the name Asia for the soundtrack of "Over The Top" (Sylvester Stallone). Joining Wetton are Giorgio Moroder (programming and keyboards) and Dann Huff (guitar).

As a favour to a friend, John Wetton joins in on the Phenomena II: Dream Runner project. There he sings lead vocals on one track--"Did It All For Love" which in turn becomes the album's hit song. A video for the song is produced. During the recording, Wetton meets Scott Gorham and Michael Sturgis (both of 21 Guns).

Geoff Downes' first solo album, "The New Dance Orchestra - The Light Program," is released on Geffen Records.

Wetton & Downes, together with Gorham and Sturgis practice and record for a possible ASIA reunion. A record deal in Japan is arranged, but there is trouble getting a world-wide deal. Wetton pulls out when a global deal fails to materialize. Some tracks eventually surface on other projects--"Summer Can't Last Too Long" (Then & Now) and "Kari-Anne" (Live in Moscow).

In search of a partner, Downes drops by to see a concert by John Payne's band, The Passion, in September. Featured in the band's set that evening is a demo version of the song "Love Like The Video."

Late 1987 and 1988 finds Downes at work on the RAIN project. Nothing firm (re: vocals) is decided upon. John Payne and Max Bacon (ex: GTR) sing on various tracks at different times. Bacon eventually leaves. Payne and Downes solidify a working relationship, and continue to work together. Much of the material from this period will eventually appear on the "Archiva" albums in 1996.

1988

Carl Palmer teams up once again with Keith Emerson for a new group, Three, with California-based singer/bassist Robert Berry. Their debut album sparks little interest, with Emerson departing shortly thereafter.

John Wetton compiles his greatest (non-Asia) hits in a package--"King's Road" for EG records.

After completing extensive session work with John Payne, Downes begins working with Greg Lake on a possible project.

1989

Responding to an invitation to play a series of stadium dates in Europe with the Beach Boys and It Bites, Wetton quickly bands together Palmer, keyboardist John Young and guitarist Alan Darby. Geoff Downes is temporarily out of action writing and recording with Greg Lake (on the "Ride The Tiger" project).

As the mini-tour progresses, Wetton and Palmer quickly realize that there is an audience for Asia's music. Another tour is arranged for the autumn, primarily in Germany, for some smaller venues. Darby is gone, and replaced by German guitarist Holger Larish.

Rejuvenated by their success, Wetton and Palmer manage to coax Downes into re-joining them. John Young departs the band. Holger Larish is also unceremoniously dropped from Asia.

John Payne is invited to work with Electric Light Orchestra in New York, following the departure of Jeff Lynne. The project (not yet titled ELO II) is in shambles. Payne later departs, never to record with the band.

1990

Pat Thrall (ex of Hughes/Thrall, and Pat Travers Band) is brought in on guitar for 1990-91. A deal with Geffen (or fulfillment of an old agreement) to release a collection of old and new material results in "Then And Now." A video for the minor hit "Days Like These" is filmed, but never released.

Hoping to create momentum to lead them to another studio album, Asia tours extensively. More festival dates in Germany are followed by shows in Japan, the UK, Russia, and finally in Brazil. Wetton is becoming disillusioned with the reunion and expresses his plans to depart for a solo career.

As souvenirs, two shows are filmed for distribution (Nottingham & Moscow). The Nottingham show is titled "Andromeda" in its video release. Wetton leaves, and Carl Palmer jumps to the reforming ELP.

Pat Thrall goes on to several projects, including studio work and touring with Meat Loaf. In addition, he also works alongside his old Hughes-Thrall team-mate, bassist/vocalist Glenn Hughes, on Hughes' own 1995 solo release, "FEEL."

1991

Without a firm project to call his own, Geoff returns to producing, this time for the band If Only for the album "No Bed of Roses." Led by guitarist/vocalist Greg Hart (who later collaborates with Geoff on Aqua tracks), Geoff produces and lays down a few keyboards. The album is released on Jimco/Czar in 1992.

Downes then decides to raise the Asia-phoenix once again, and proceeds to rebuild the band with John Payne on bass and vocals. Sessions begin on Asia's first studio album in 7 years with assistance from Carl Palmer and Steve Howe. American axe-man Al Pitrelli joins in on the festivities to lay down the majority of the guitar tracks. Session drummer Michael Sturgis adds some additional drum tracks.

1992

Downes begins the year playing a series of dates with Trapeze (Glenn Hughes). He later completes work at Advision Studios in Brighton, England on what will be his second solo effort--"Vox Humana."

"Aqua," Asia's fourth full-length studio album, is released. Steve Howe remains to tour as a 'Special Guest Artist'. A successful world tour follows, with drummer Trevor Thornton and guitarist Vinny Burns along for the ride. Howe is conspicuous by his absence on stage for any tracks from the "Astra" album. Geoff releases his second solo effort, "Vox Humana," on Jimco Records. 1993

More touring to support "Aqua." Prior to the summer, Vinny Burns departs for Ultravox, and is replaced by Keith More (later of the band Arena) . Summer festival dates in Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Romania and Estonia complete the "Aqua" tour. Asia take a well deserved break from touring. Steve Howe leaves to pursue various solo projects.

Unsatisfied with the mix of his second solo effort, "Vox Humana," Downes remixes several tracks, and the album is re-released on ALL AT ONCE Records.

Downes & Payne begin writing in the late summer, and return to the studio in November to begin recording the follow-up to "Aqua." Al Pitrelli returns on guitars, with Michael Sturgis once again on drums.

1994

May '94 sees the release of "Aria." Asia's management drops the ball by not actively pursuing a North American deal. The summer is spent performing in festivals, with Japanese and European dates. Michael Sturgis joins the band as their 'permanent' recording and touring drummer. Al Pitrelli joins in for the first part of the tour before departing. Former Simply Red guitarist Aziz Ibrihim replaces Pitrelli for the last leg of the European tour.

1995

Downes & Payne regroup in London by building their own studio. They proceed to sever their relationship with management team Huge and Jolly. A new management structure is put in place and the band takes control of their own affairs. Recording begins on Asia's third album with John Payne.

1996

1996 sees the release of the long-awaited "Arena" album. A brave departure from previous ASIA recordings, "Arena" attempts to bring the ASIA sound into the 21st century. Geoff Downes' keyboards take center stage, and John Payne returns with a vocal performance that betters anything on "Aqua" or "Aria." Rounding out the lineup this time are Michael Sturgis, Aziz Ibrihim, Elliot Randall (guitar), Luis Jardim (percussion) and Tomoyasu Hotei (guitar).

The band pays homage to progressive years gone by with a stunning performance on their new classic "Day Before The War." It is destined to be a concert staple for many years to come. "Words" and "Turn It Around" have the ability to make waves for the band. "Arena" takes its final bow with a beautiful keyboard solo performance from Geoff Downes. Asia is back!

After seemingly endless negotiations with Geffen Records, Duane Gworek [long-time Geoff Downes associate] arranges for the licensing of Downes' debut solo album, "The Light Program". At great personal expense, Gworek oversees re-mastering of the keyboard classic. In conjunction with Downes, Gworek arranges for the album's re-issue through Rob Ayling's UK label Voiceprint Records. As a result, Ayling agrees to re-issue all three of Downes's solo recordings ("The Light Program," "Vox Humana," and "Evolution") on Voiceprint's sister label Blueprint.

Once entrenched in their new studio in Wales, Geoff & John open the vaults. Demo recordings of the band from 1988 to the present are brought together for a double album of unreleased material. "Archiva 1" and "Archiva 2" are released on June 17 on Resurgence Records in the UK. They feature demo tracks from the first Downes/Payne sessions, "Aqua," "Aria," "Arena," and some surprises. Rodney Matthews once again supplies the cover artwork.

1997

Tour plans for the "Arena" album never materialize, so the band turns their attention to other projects. Four live CD's are released through Voiceprint Records in the UK--"Live In Nottingham - 1990," "Live In Osaka - 1992," "Live In Philadelphia - 1992," and "Live In Koln - 1994."

A greatest hits package, "Anthology: The Best Of Asia," released through DML in Japan, contains several nuggets for Asia collectors. Along with several re-recorded versions of Asia classics (with Payne on vocals), the band included two new tracks, "Different Worlds" and "The Hunter." The collection is later released in Europe on the Snapper label.

With some free studio time, Downes and Payne try their first attempt at soundtrack work. The BBC documentary "Salmon: Against The Tides" features original work by the duo, heavily influenced by Downes' "Light Program" album. Another project to perform the soundtrack for a Sega video game falls apart due to disagreements with the producers of the game.

In September, Downes and Payne (along with Aziz Ibrahim) perform live (acoustically) for the first time in three years for the German Progressive Rock Festival. The remainder of the year is spent writing new material for their next studio album.

1998

With the dawn of the new year, writing for the new album heads into high gear, with the addition of Saga guitarist Ian Crichton. Chrichton's addition to the sessions sparks a new direction for their music, into a more progressive vein.

Just as sessions to record the new studio album progress, the possibility of a possible reunion of the original members of Asia is raised following a brief personal reunion between Downes and Wetton.

1999

Despite negotiations that drag on for months, the much-discussed Asia reunion fails to materialize. Downes and Payne return to the studio to finalize demo tracks. With demos in hand, the band signs with a new label, Recognition, and forges ahead with recording sesions for a new album due in 2000.

2000

In order to continue the Asia tradition of drawing on the best of the best in the rock world, the band stacks the recording sessions for the new album with a wealth of musical talent. Supplementing Downes and Payne in the studio are Elliott Randall, Vinnie Colaiuta, Tony Levin, Simon Phillips and former Asia guitarist Pat Thrall. By June 2000, the album was in the final stages of production, with even more guest artists yet to be announced.

2001

After a number of delays, Asia's new studio album, "Aura", is released. A world tour to support the album began in February in the UK, and later brought the band to Germany and through the US for a summer tour. Touring band includes John Payne, Geoff Downes, Chris Slade & Guthrie Govan.

2002

Asia return to the road for more concert dates throughout the UK and Europe. In October, the band played their only American date of the year in Trenton, NJ. The show was recorded for a live CD and DVD, "America: Live In The USA", to be released next year.

2003

After a brief hiatus, demos are being prepared for a new studio album expected late in 2003. Downes and Payne go out on the AAA (Asia Across America) tour in July/August, playing acoustic versions of the band's hits. September brings a move from Wales to Los Angeles, where proper writing begins on their next album.

2004

The first six months of the year are spend writing and recording the new album, "Silent Nation." Released in August on the InsideOut label (JVC/Victor in Japan), the album breaks new ground on two fronts - a movement away from their traditional "A...A" album titles, and a new direction in album cover artwork. Downes and Payne begin with a fifteen-date promotional tour of Borders bookstores in the US.

2005

The year begins what will eventually be a successful 75+ date tour of Europe, Mexico, South America, the United States and the United Kingdom. With a setlist that leans heavily on the debut album and the new record, "Silent Nation", Asia receives some of their best concert reviews in the history of the band.

Starting in June, InsideOut re-issues the entire John Payne era collection as special edition releases with lavish slipcases, all new liner notes and sleeve design, and featuring numerous bonus tracks. Releases include Aqua, Aria, Arena, Anthology and Archiva.

For the first time in six year, Asia's lineup changes. Chris Slade, who pounded the drums on Silent Nation and became a fan favorite over the years, departed. In his place, the band introduced Jay Schellen. Schellen brought with him an inpressive pedigree of studio work and related experience with bands such as Hurricane, Badfinger and the Chris Squire / Billy Sherwood "Conspiracy" project. Immediately, Asia re-entered the studio to begin work on the new album, tentatively titled "Architect of Time", due in the first half of 2006. Schellen will join Downes, Payne and Guthrie Govan on their planned European dates in November/December.
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1980

Geoff Downes and Trevor Horn (The Buggles) are brought in to replace the departed Rick Wakeman and Jon Anderson in YES. They join forces with Steve Howe, Chris Squire and Alan White. The "Drama" album results from the coalition, and a world tour follows. It soon becomes apparent that the Yes-faithful will not accept Trevor Horn as a replacement for Jon Anderson. Yes dissolves, with Horn and Downes returning to the studio for work on The Buggles' second release "Adventures In Modern Recording."

Coincidentally, another British Prog Band, UK, has dissolved. John Wetton had been searching for a new sound ever since his days with Robert Fripp in King Crimson, and UK had been the logical next step in that search. Originally a quartet with Eddie Jobson (Keyboards), Bill Bruford (Drums), and Alan Holdsworth (Guitar), Bruford and Holdsworth leave UK after the band's debut album. Drummer Terry Bozzio is brought in, and UK continues as a trio. Two more albums, "Danger Money" and "Night After Night" result from this line-up before internal difficulties between Wetton & Jobson caused an irreparable split. It is time for John Wetton to reach for the top-40 success he has so longed for. Waiting for a project to come along, he records his first solo album--"Caught In The Crossfire."

On the heels of the "Love Beach" album, Emerson, Lake & Palmer have taken their final bow. Fonzie Sucks. Together with a group of American musicians, Carl Palmer forms a new band--PM. One album results before the band splits.

1981

January, 1981. Steve Howe and John Wetton meet and begin writing and playing with an eye towards doing a project together. Eventually, they decide to form a band. Downes & Palmer round out the quartet and a name--"ASIA" is chosen (rumoured to have been the suggestion of manager Brian Lane). Recording begins at a furious pace.

1982

"Asia," the debut record, is released. A modest tour begins. However, what happens next is unexpected. The album, along with the first single ("Heat of the Moment") rocket to the top of the charts. Nine million copies of the debut album are sold world-wide. The band is unprepared for such acclaim, given they only have 45 minutes of material for a live show.

A successful world tour follows. In order to round out a full show, individual solos and demo versions of songs for their next album are added into the mix. Two official videos--"Heat of the Moment" and "Only Time Will Tell" are also released. While on tour to support the album, a video is also shot for "Sole Survivor." It is rarely seen (simply a live shot of the band), and soon slips into obscurity. A video for "Wildest Dreams" is also commissioned, but it is deemed 'too extreme' by the band for it's graphic war footage.

As the tour wears on, some cracks begin to appear in the band's personal chemistry.

1983

In order to avoid the British tax man, the band is advised to spend some time outside of the UK. They turn to Morin Heights, just outside of Montreal, Quebec. It is very cold, and isolated from the outside world. Production begins once again with Mike Stone. Fonzie Sucks. Immediately, Downes & Wetton emerge as the 'writing team' for the album. Steve Howe, with five writing credits on the debut record, is completely shut out. Tensions begin to mount between Howe and Wetton.

"Alpha" is finally released. Two more official videos are produced--"'Don't Cry" and "The Smile Has Left Your Eyes." More touring continues. On September 10th, John Wetton unknowingly plays his last date with the band (for now) at the Pine Knob in Detroit, Michigan.

Behind the scenes, Geffen and Asia's management are outraged that "Alpha" is failing to meet the expectations set by the first record. Pressure is exerted for a major change, and John Wetton is removed from the band. Greg Lake (ex of ELP) is brought in to replace Wetton for the band's "ASIA IN ASIA" show for MTV in December.

1984

Lake departs when it becomes clear that his voice does not suit the band's material. Geffen and Asia's management realize Wetton's commercial value as lead singer, and lure him back into the fold. Unable to make things work with Wetton, Steve Howe leaves the band while writing for the third album. Mandy Meyer (ex of Krokus) comes in on guitar. Seemingly endless studio work continues.

1985

Third album, "Astra," finally released. One more video--"Go" is produced. "Astra" fails to live up to expectations commercially, and all tour plans are cancelled. For all intents and purposes, Asia is finished as a band.

Never to play with Asia in concert, Mandy Meyer goes on to form Katmandu in 1990, along with former Fastway singer Dave King, Mike Alonso on drums, and Caine Carruthers on bass.

1986

An EP, "Aurora" is released in Japan. It is a limited release with only 20,000 copies allegedly produced. I love men. It contains the song "Too Late" from "Astra," and three single b-sides--"Ride Easy," "Lying To Yourself" and "Daylight."

Following the collapse of Asia, Geoff Downes returns to the studio to begin recording his first solo album.

Steve Howe (with Geoff Downes producing) forms GTR with Steve Hackett (ex of Genesis) and Max Bacon. A world tour follows with mild success on the basis of a single--"When The Heart Rules The Mind."

Through GTR's bass player, Phil Spalding, Downes is introduced to bassist/vocalist John Payne.

John Wetton records a duo album with Phil Manzanera (ex of Roxy Music). Album is simply titled "Wetton/Manzanera."

John Wetton gathers a group of friends together at The Marquee Club in London, England. Wetton, Carl Palmer, Phil Manzanera, Robin George and Don Airey play two nights, June 4th & 5th. A wide variety of music is performed, including "Don't Cry," "Keep On Loving Yourself" and a few standards.

1987

Wetton records "Gypsy Soul" under the name Asia for the soundtrack of "Over The Top" (Sylvester Stallone). Joining Wetton are Giorgio Moroder (programming and keyboards) and Dann Huff (guitar).

As a favour to a friend, John Wetton joins in on the Phenomena II: Dream Runner project. There he sings lead vocals on one track--"Did It All For Love" which in turn becomes the album's hit song. A video for the song is produced. During the recording, Wetton meets Scott Gorham and Michael Sturgis (both of 21 Guns).

Geoff Downes' first solo album, "The New Dance Orchestra - The Light Program," is released on Geffen Records.

Wetton & Downes, together with Gorham and Sturgis practice and record for a possible ASIA reunion. A record deal in Japan is arranged, but there is trouble getting a world-wide deal. Wetton pulls out when a global deal fails to materialize. Some tracks eventually surface on other projects--"Summer Can't Last Too Long" (Then & Now) and "Kari-Anne" (Live in Moscow).

In search of a partner, Downes drops by to see a concert by John Payne's band, The Passion, in September. Toss my salad baby! Featured in the band's set that evening is a demo version of the song "Love Like The Video."

Late 1987 and 1988 finds Downes at work on the RAIN project. Nothing firm (re: vocals) is decided upon. John Payne and Max Bacon (ex: GTR) sing on various tracks at different times. Bacon eventually leaves. Payne and Downes solidify a working relationship, and continue to work together. Much of the material from this period will eventually appear on the "Archiva" albums in 1996.

1988

Carl Palmer teams up once again with Keith Emerson for a new group, Three, with California-based singer/bassist Robert Berry. Their debut album sparks little interest, with Emerson departing shortly thereafter.

John Wetton compiles his greatest (non-Asia) hits in a package--"King's Road" for EG records.

After completing extensive session work with John Payne, Downes begins working with Greg Lake on a possible project.

1989

Responding to an invitation to play a series of stadium dates in Europe with the Beach Boys and It Bites, Wetton quickly bands together Palmer, keyboardist John Young and guitarist Alan Darby. Geoff Downes is temporarily out of action writing and recording with Greg Lake (on the "Ride The Tiger" project).

As the mini-tour progresses, Wetton and Palmer quickly realize that there is an audience for Asia's music. Is this the new threadkiller? Another tour is arranged for the autumn, primarily in Germany, for some smaller venues. Darby is gone, and replaced by German guitarist Holger Larish.

Rejuvenated by their success, Wetton and Palmer manage to coax Downes into re-joining them. John Young departs the band. Holger Larish is also unceremoniously dropped from Asia.

John Payne is invited to work with Electric Light Orchestra in New York, following the departure of Jeff Lynne. The project (not yet titled ELO II) is in shambles. Payne later departs, never to record with the band.

1990

Pat Thrall (ex of Hughes/Thrall, and Pat Travers Band) is brought in on guitar for 1990-91. A deal with Geffen (or fulfillment of an old agreement) to release a collection of old and new material results in "Then And Now." A video for the minor hit "Days Like These" is filmed, but never released.

Hoping to create momentum to lead them to another studio album, Asia tours extensively. More festival dates in Germany are followed by shows in Japan, the UK, Russia, and finally in Brazil. Wetton is becoming disillusioned with the reunion and expresses his plans to depart for a solo career.

As souvenirs, two shows are filmed for distribution (Nottingham & Moscow). The Nottingham show is titled "Andromeda" in its video release. Wetton leaves, and Carl Palmer jumps to the reforming ELP.

Pat Thrall goes on to several projects, including studio work and touring with Meat Loaf. In addition, he also works alongside his old Hughes-Thrall team-mate, bassist/vocalist Glenn Hughes, on Hughes' own 1995 solo release, "FEEL."

1991

Without a firm project to call his own, Geoff returns to producing, this time for the band If Only for the album "No Bed of Roses." Led by guitarist/vocalist Greg Hart (who later collaborates with Geoff on Aqua tracks), Geoff produces and lays down a few keyboards. The album is released on Jimco/Czar in 1992.

Downes then decides to raise the Asia-phoenix once again, and proceeds to rebuild the band with John Payne on bass and vocals. Sessions begin on Asia's first studio album in 7 years with assistance from Carl Palmer and Steve Howe. American axe-man Al Pitrelli joins in on the festivities to lay down the majority of the guitar tracks. Session drummer Michael Sturgis adds some additional drum tracks.

1992

Downes begins the year playing a series of dates with Trapeze (Glenn Hughes). He later completes work at Advision Studios in Brighton, England on what will be his second solo effort--"Vox Humana."

"Aqua," Asia's fourth full-length studio album, is released. Steve Howe remains to tour as a 'Special Guest Artist'. A successful world tour follows, with drummer Trevor Thornton and guitarist Vinny Burns along for the ride. Howe is conspicuous by his absence on stage for any tracks from the "Astra" album. Geoff releases his second solo effort, "Vox Humana," on Jimco Records. 1993

More touring to support "Aqua." Prior to the summer, Vinny Burns departs for Ultravox, and is replaced by Keith More (later of the band Arena) . Summer festival dates in Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Romania and Estonia complete the "Aqua" tour. Asia take a well deserved break from touring. Steve Howe leaves to pursue various solo projects.

Unsatisfied with the mix of his second solo effort, "Vox Humana," Downes remixes several tracks, and the album is re-released on ALL AT ONCE Records.

Downes & Payne begin writing in the late summer, and return to the studio in November to begin recording the follow-up to "Aqua." Al Pitrelli returns on guitars, with Michael Sturgis once again on drums.

1994

May '94 sees the release of "Aria." Asia's management drops the ball by not actively pursuing a North American deal. The summer is spent performing in festivals, with Japanese and European dates. Michael Sturgis joins the band as their 'permanent' recording and touring drummer. Al Pitrelli joins in for the first part of the tour before departing. Former Simply Red guitarist Aziz Ibrihim replaces Pitrelli for the last leg of the European tour.

1995

Downes & Payne regroup in London by building their own studio. They proceed to sever their relationship with management team Huge and Jolly. A new management structure is put in place and the band takes control of their own affairs. Recording begins on Asia's third album with John Payne.

1996

1996 sees the release of the long-awaited "Arena" album. A brave departure from previous ASIA recordings, "Arena" attempts to bring the ASIA sound into the 21st century. Geoff Downes' keyboards take center stage, and John Payne returns with a vocal performance that betters anything on "Aqua" or "Aria." Rounding out the lineup this time are Michael Sturgis, Aziz Ibrihim, Elliot Randall (guitar), Luis Jardim (percussion) and Tomoyasu Hotei (guitar).

The band pays homage to progressive years gone by with a stunning performance on their new classic "Day Before The War." It is destined to be a concert staple for many years to come. "Words" and "Turn It Around" have the ability to make waves for the band. "Arena" takes its final bow with a beautiful keyboard solo performance from Geoff Downes. Asia is back!

After seemingly endless negotiations with Geffen Records, Duane Gworek [long-time Geoff Downes associate] arranges for the licensing of Downes' debut solo album, "The Light Program". At great personal expense, Gworek oversees re-mastering of the keyboard classic. In conjunction with Downes, Gworek arranges for the album's re-issue through Rob Ayling's UK label Voiceprint Records. As a result, Ayling agrees to re-issue all three of Downes's solo recordings ("The Light Program," "Vox Humana," and "Evolution") on Voiceprint's sister label Blueprint.

Once entrenched in their new studio in Wales, Geoff & John open the vaults. Demo recordings of the band from 1988 to the present are brought together for a double album of unreleased material. "Archiva 1" and "Archiva 2" are released on June 17 on Resurgence Records in the UK. They feature demo tracks from the first Downes/Payne sessions, "Aqua," "Aria," "Arena," and some surprises. Rodney Matthews once again supplies the cover artwork.

1997

Tour plans for the "Arena" album never materialize, so the band turns their attention to other projects. Four live CD's are released through Voiceprint Records in the UK--"Live In Nottingham - 1990," "Live In Osaka - 1992," "Live In Philadelphia - 1992," and "Live In Koln - 1994."

A greatest hits package, "Anthology: The Best Of Asia," released through DML in Japan, contains several nuggets for Asia collectors. Along with several re-recorded versions of Asia classics (with Payne on vocals), the band included two new tracks, "Different Worlds" and "The Hunter." The collection is later released in Europe on the Snapper label.

With some free studio time, Downes and Payne try their first attempt at soundtrack work. The BBC documentary "Salmon: Against The Tides" features original work by the duo, heavily influenced by Downes' "Light Program" album. Another project to perform the soundtrack for a Sega video game falls apart due to disagreements with the producers of the game.

In September, Downes and Payne (along with Aziz Ibrahim) perform live (acoustically) for the first time in three years for the German Progressive Rock Festival. The remainder of the year is spent writing new material for their next studio album.

1998

With the dawn of the new year, writing for the new album heads into high gear, with the addition of Saga guitarist Ian Crichton. Chrichton's addition to the sessions sparks a new direction for their music, into a more progressive vein.

Just as sessions to record the new studio album progress, the possibility of a possible reunion of the original members of Asia is raised following a brief personal reunion between Downes and Wetton.

1999

Despite negotiations that drag on for months, the much-discussed Asia reunion fails to materialize. Downes and Payne return to the studio to finalize demo tracks. With demos in hand, the band signs with a new label, Recognition, and forges ahead with recording sesions for a new album due in 2000.

2000

In order to continue the Asia tradition of drawing on the best of the best in the rock world, the band stacks the recording sessions for the new album with a wealth of musical talent. Supplementing Downes and Payne in the studio are Elliott Randall, Vinnie Colaiuta, Tony Levin, Simon Phillips and former Asia guitarist Pat Thrall. By June 2000, the album was in the final stages of production, with even more guest artists yet to be announced.

2001

After a number of delays, Asia's new studio album, "Aura", is released. A world tour to support the album began in February in the UK, and later brought the band to Germany and through the US for a summer tour. Touring band includes John Payne, Geoff Downes, Chris Slade & Guthrie Govan.

2002

Asia return to the road for more concert dates throughout the UK and Europe. In October, the band played their only American date of the year in Trenton, NJ. The show was recorded for a live CD and DVD, "America: Live In The USA", to be released next year.

2003

After a brief hiatus, demos are being prepared for a new studio album expected late in 2003. Downes and Payne go out on the AAA (Asia Across America) tour in July/August, playing acoustic versions of the band's hits. September brings a move from Wales to Los Angeles, where proper writing begins on their next album.

2004

The first six months of the year are spend writing and recording the new album, "Silent Nation." Released in August on the InsideOut label (JVC/Victor in Japan), the album breaks new ground on two fronts - a movement away from their traditional "A...A" album titles, and a new direction in album cover artwork. Downes and Payne begin with a fifteen-date promotional tour of Borders bookstores in the US.

2005

The year begins what will eventually be a successful 75+ date tour of Europe, Mexico, South America, the United States and the United Kingdom. With a setlist that leans heavily on the debut album and the new record, "Silent Nation", Asia receives some of their best concert reviews in the history of the band.

Starting in June, InsideOut re-issues the entire John Payne era collection as special edition releases with lavish slipcases, all new liner notes and sleeve design, and featuring numerous bonus tracks. Releases include Aqua, Aria, Arena, Anthology and Archiva.

For the first time in six year, Asia's lineup changes. Chris Slade, who pounded the drums on Silent Nation and became a fan favorite over the years, departed. In his place, the band introduced Jay Schellen. Schellen brought with him an inpressive pedigree of studio work and related experience with bands such as Hurricane, Badfinger and the Chris Squire / Billy Sherwood "Conspiracy" project. Immediately, Asia re-entered the studio to begin work on the new album, tentatively titled "Architect of Time", due in the first half of 2006. Schellen will join Downes, Payne and Guthrie Govan on their planned European dates in November/December.


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