NFL Week 9 - Page 2

Carman Bulldog · 11-08-2015, 09:44 PM

Peyton Manning over the past three seasons...

Prior to NFL HGH testing...
20 games, 555/817, 67.9%, 6770 yards, 12.2 ypc, 67 td, 13 int

Since HGH testing implemented...
20 games, 478/741, 64.5%' 5579 yards, 11.67 ypc, 36 td, 25 int

His career season at age 37 coming one year removed from neck surgery is starting to make a lot more sense. Especially knowing that Peyton had stem cell therapy and the recovery and healing process is more effective with HGH.

Atocep · 11-08-2015, 09:59 PM

The fact that he's playing in his first new offense since he was a rookie probably has something to do with his struggles.

Carman Bulldog · 11-08-2015, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

The fact that he's playing in his first new offense since he was a rookie probably has something to do with his struggles.

Twelve of those games were last season while eight came this season. Not sure the new offence has (nor should it have) that much of an impact on the player generally regarded as the best regular season quarterback ever.

dubb93 · 11-08-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

Twelve of those games were last season while eight came this season. Not sure the new offence has (nor should it have) that much of an impact on the player generally regarded as the best regular season quarterback ever.

13 of those interceptions are in the 8 games this season with the new offense. What do the numbers look like if you don't cherry pick a random drug test date?

Also, and this could be news to you....but the guy is 39 and came back from what was suspected to be a career ending injury. He's been playing on borrowed time since that injury. Don't let me get in the way of a good rant though.

Atocep · 11-08-2015, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

Twelve of those games were last season while eight came this season. Not sure the new offence has (nor should it have) that much of an impact on the player generally regarded as the best regular season quarterback ever.

The twelve games last season were games in which he played injured.

Do you really think a 39 year old QB isn't going to have trouble going from an up tempo, shotgun offense that he played in for 18 years to an under center power running offense?

He's looked much better the past 2 weeks and stated before the game last week he's just now starting to get comfortable with the offense and knowing where his receivers are supposed to be.

ColtCrazy · 11-08-2015, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

The twelve games last season were games in which he played injured.

Do you really think a 39 year old QB isn't going to have trouble going from an up tempo, shotgun offense that he played in for 18 years to an under center power running offense?

He's looked much better the past 2 weeks and stated before the game last week he's just now starting to get comfortable with the offense and knowing where his receivers are supposed to be.

Thanks for saying what I was thinking. Completely agree, coming from an injury at his age and then a new offense. He's looked much better. To think he's on HGH is ludicrous.

NobodyHere · 11-09-2015, 02:04 AM

Look's like the Bronco's D has been taking tips from Ndamukong Suh:

Watch Craig Stout's Vine "Von Miller putting his knee on the throat of a downed opponent."

and that's in addition to Talib's eyepoke.

Butter · 11-09-2015, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Talib should sit for a week or two over that eye poke.

Surprised he didn't get straight up ejected from the game. That was worse than a punch.

Dutch · 11-09-2015, 09:00 AM

He's a great football player, but he's pure douchebag otherwise. Thankfully, I can keep the two separated and just appreciate his skillz on the field of play.

But yeah, going for the career ending injury eye-poke deserves some recognition from the league office.

Dutch · 11-09-2015, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

Awww...lmao. Add another big one from Doug Martin and those were game changers. Thankfully, they will move on from this and find another goofy-assed way to lose next time. They are just getting all this "experience" out of their system while it doesn't matter.

MizzouRah · 11-09-2015, 10:26 AM

Goodnight Rams.. another season will go by without a playoff game.

TroyF · 11-09-2015, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Surprised he didn't get straight up ejected from the game. That was worse than a punch.

He should have been ejected. He won't be, but he should be suspended as well. Miller can join him.

I love this team, but I don't tolerate or make excuses when I see things I hate. They deserved to lose that game yesterday and after their actions on the field, I'm glad they did.

The refs in the Eagles/Cowboys game last night were comical. I think they blew 4 calls on the last Cowboys drive alone, including a critical illegal formation penalty which would have taken the play that put the Cowboys in field goal range taken away. On the Eagles final play, the WR was clearly held far worse than anything that happened to Bryant and no flags were dropped. That was, really, really poor work.

TroyF · 11-09-2015, 04:20 PM

Talib suspended 1 game and is appealing.

I've already said I wished he'd get two games. I hope he loses the appeal (I doubt he will)

I just don't understand hwo PacMan can rip a helmet off of someone and pound their head into it without a suspension, but this draws one.

What a freaking league.

By the way Talib, you say it's an accident? BS. Stop lying through your teeth.

Solecismic · 11-09-2015, 05:19 PM

Got to give Rex Ryan credit for extraordinary trolling expertise. IK Enemkpali is going to be a team captain against the Jets.

The act must wear thin after a while, but I'm sure the Bills love it right now.

Talib? I've never seen a more harmful self-destructive penalty. If that didn't wake him up, nothing will. One game, ten games, a hundred... it doesn't matter.

BishopMVP · 11-09-2015, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

Peyton Manning over the past three seasons...

Prior to NFL HGH testing...
20 games, 555/817, 67.9%, 6770 yards, 12.2 ypc, 67 td, 13 int

Since HGH testing implemented...
20 games, 478/741, 64.5%' 5579 yards, 11.67 ypc, 36 td, 25 int

His career season at age 37 coming one year removed from neck surgery is starting to make a lot more sense. Especially knowing that Peyton had stem cell therapy and the recovery and healing process is more effective with HGH.

Did he also perfectly time his HGH cycles so it still affected him weeks 1-4 last year, but he was clean by week 5 for testing? And did he just have residual affects for weeks 5-12 when he still looked elite? Sometimes 38/39 year olds are just old.

PS I'm also surprised Tom Brady hasn't been linked to HGH or steroids yet (I think one Boston talk radio guy tried to, but couldn't even get the usual thin-skinned callers to bite.)

NobodyHere · 11-09-2015, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Did he also perfectly time his HGH cycles so it still affected him weeks 1-4 last year, but he was clean by week 5 for testing? And did he just have residual affects for weeks 5-12 when he still looked elite? Sometimes 38/39 year olds are just old.

PS I'm also surprised Tom Brady hasn't been linked to HGH or steroids yet (I think one Boston talk radio guy tried to, but couldn't even get the usual thin-skinned callers to bite.)

The Patriots are being accused of something far more insidious

Patriots have no need for probability, win coin flip at impossible clip - CBSSports.com

BishopMVP · 11-09-2015, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Report: Reggie Bush to sue city of St. Louis for injury | FOX Sports

Good. I have no idea why stadiums have concrete tracks close to the playing surface, or even worse the ones that have walls that close - one of the SEC schools, I think Georgia's Sanfprd Stadium, has a brick wall like 3 feet from the corner of the end zone I've nearly seen WR's end up headfirst in after a pass.

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

The Patriots are being accused of something far more insidious

Patriots have no need for probability, win coin flip at impossible clip - CBSSports.com

I heard about that one... Apparently The Onion's gotten really good at spoofing URL's now.

miami_fan · 11-09-2015, 08:27 PM

Woot Woot Airman Doolittle!

EagleFan · 11-09-2015, 10:07 PM

The phrase "Jay Cutler, franchise leader in touchdown passes" should never be spoken.

cuervo72 · 11-09-2015, 10:34 PM

Looks like ESPN is using the JAX on-field arrow for down and distance, judging by the colors. They must have sold the SD one to raise a little extra cash.

Atocep · 11-09-2015, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

The phrase "Jay Cutler, franchise leader in touchdown passes" should never be spoken.

It's a huge improvement over a QB that last played 65 years ago.

stevew · 11-10-2015, 01:45 AM

Dion Lewis getting hurt kind of sucks. That was a good story.

stevew · 11-10-2015, 07:31 AM

So I'm barely following the Steelers this year but it appears that we are starting a former Army Ranger at LT and he's a mountain of a man 6'9", 340lbs. 3 tours of duty in Afghanistan. Once he was able to consistently eat and weight train, he went up from 270#

Dutch · 11-10-2015, 07:44 AM

Very cool.

stevew · 11-10-2015, 07:51 AM

Alejandro Villanueva (American football - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

One more thought... Isn't a 6'9" Ranger a pretty big liability on the battlefield? There's so much of him that can get hit by enemy fire. I'd suspect shorter guys make much better soldiers.

Dutch · 11-10-2015, 09:21 AM

Probably not ideal...but it doesn't really matter. In the day and age of marksmen (since about 100 years ago) any exposure is bad exposure...

Remember Dallas Cowboys stand-out, Chad Hennings? He was an A-10 pilot and quite larger than the ideal pilot...but he did just fine as well.

Chad Hennings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or to relate it even better....Mugsy Bogues didn't show the ideal NBA player characteristics, but found his niche and excelled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muggsy_Bogues

Julio Riddols · 11-10-2015, 12:04 PM

Villanueva shut down Cinci's pass rush pretty well in the game I saw. He was a camp body in Cinci before he went off to fulfill his duty in the military, they said good things about him then. I feel like that kind of height can be a liability against shorter pass rushers, but from what I've seen he has a bright future.

BishopMVP · 11-10-2015, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Dion Lewis getting hurt kind of sucks. That was a good story.

Yeah, too bad. I don't think it affects us too much - Bolden, maybe James White will just take over the passing back role. Maybe we re-sign Travaris Cadet if he's still an FA. And if we really wanted to twist that knife vs the Steelers, they just released Dri Archer, who I'm pretty sure could fill the same role.

Kodos · 11-10-2015, 12:57 PM

Talib should have a multi-game suspension. Heck, I'd be okay with him missing the rest of the season. You can't just poke someone in the eye.

Dutch · 11-10-2015, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Talib should have a multi-game suspension. Heck, I'd be okay with him missing the rest of the season. You can't just poke someone in the eye.

Suspensions are stupid. All this does is show how important he is to the team while he rests and the team suffers. They should make these dudes play but forfeit their paycheck to the disabled NFL players fund.

BillJasper · 11-10-2015, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Suspensions are stupid. All this does is show how important he is to the team while he rests and the team suffers. They should make these dudes play but forfeit their paycheck to the disabled NFL players fund.

I think the team is suppose to suffer for not keeping their player in line.

stevew · 11-10-2015, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Yeah, too bad. I don't think it affects us too much - Bolden, maybe James White will just take over the passing back role. Maybe we re-sign Travaris Cadet if he's still an FA. And if we really wanted to twist that knife vs the Steelers, they just released Dri Archer, who I'm pretty sure could fill the same role.

Dri waa garbage, but I'm sure we were just using him improperly

Dutch · 11-10-2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

I think the team is suppose to suffer for not keeping their player in line.

How does the team stop Talib from spontaneously poking a dude in the eye in a fit of anger?

miami_fan · 11-10-2015, 03:37 PM

Luck out 2-6 weeks with lacerated kidney.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...cerated-kidney

NobodyHere · 11-10-2015, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Luck out 2-6 weeks with lacerated kidney.

Kodos · 11-10-2015, 03:55 PM

"Luck out" has a new meaning now.

Solecismic · 11-10-2015, 04:01 PM

Watching Luck this season is like watching one of those old-school boxing movies.

We identify with him - nice kid from a tough area, finds he has a talent for boxing. He moves his way up the ranks, taking a terrific punishment for 14 rounds (somehow in these movies, even amateurs fight for 15 rounds), then delivering the last-second knockout. Mr. Miyagi and a random blonde invariably help them back to their apartments, where they cling to life only to rise for a new bout, against doctor's orders, a few days later.

Poor Luck. But he definitely exemplifies the importance of having a good (and healthy) quarterback in the NFL.

NobodyHere · 11-10-2015, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Watching Luck this season is like watching one of those old-school boxing movies.

We identify with him - nice kid from a tough area, finds he has a talent for boxing. He moves his way up the ranks, taking a terrific punishment for 14 rounds (somehow in these movies, even amateurs fight for 15 rounds), then delivering the last-second knockout. Mr. Miyagi and a random blonde invariably help them back to their apartments, where they cling to life only to rise for a new bout, against doctor's orders, a few days later.

Poor Luck. But he definitely exemplifies the importance of having a good (and healthy) quarterback in the NFL.

Not to mention a decent offensive line and a supporting running game.

Atocep · 11-10-2015, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

How does the team stop Talib from spontaneously poking a dude in the eye in a fit of anger?

He serves the punishment for not being able to control himself on the field. The fact that team is also punished as a result puts pressure on him to control himself in the future.

There are a lot of guys out there that have no problem writing a check to cover whatever stupid mistake they did, but every NFL player has the competitive desire to be out there playing each week (Wasn't it Deion that asked the league how much much to write the check for for his celebrations?). If you really want to send a message you make them sit.

Taking away playing time and punishing the group for 1 person's actions is a standard way of sending a message across all team sports at every level.

Dutch · 11-10-2015, 04:28 PM

I'm not saying that's not how it's always been done. Just looking for new ways to handle stupidity. I should stop thinking outside of the box....way too progressive for me.

stevew · 11-10-2015, 04:56 PM

Wow, the backup QB market is getting barren. Colts are going to need to sign someone, and the options are basically Ponder and ?

wustin · 11-10-2015, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Wow, the backup QB market is getting barren. Colts are going to need to sign someone, and the options are basically Ponder and ?

Time to call up good 'ole Jon Kitna again

Thomkal · 11-10-2015, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Wow, the backup QB market is getting barren. Colts are going to need to sign someone, and the options are basically Ponder and ?

Ryan Lindley and John Skelton are probably available. Better go with Ponder

BillJasper · 11-10-2015, 05:40 PM

I think Ryan Mallett is available!

TroyF · 11-10-2015, 05:52 PM

Suspension upheld. I am elated and shocked.

Four things:

1) I hope this means that any future player who beats the hell out of a women does not a get a reduced suspension.

2) I hope Talib doesn't go to court over this nonsense. He'd have a case. Simply show the Adam Jones incident from earlier in the year and point out the NFL is inconsistent. (Hey, I saw one guy take off a helmet and slam the other guys head into it, why would I think a simple eye gouge would get me suspended?)I really don't want to cheer for a player who is dirty or who cheats and then lies through his teeth about it. Actually getting away with it because of the past inconsistencies of the league office is/would be disgraceful.

3) I hope this sets the tone for the future. Jones should have been suspended and there are other incidents that deserve it as well. Time for the league to actually take action on this stuff.

4) I wish the suspension would have been for at least two games and NOT reduced. Talib is a jack ass. He deserves it. Period. Any Broncos fan who denies that fact is delusional.

bhlloy · 11-10-2015, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Wow, the backup QB market is getting barren. Colts are going to need to sign someone, and the options are basically Ponder and ?

I can think of someone... Rhymes with heblow

cuervo72 · 11-10-2015, 07:16 PM

Maybe McNabb can get in shape in the prison yard real fast.

BishopMVP · 11-10-2015, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Maybe McNabb can get in shape in the prison yard real fast.

Wow, shocked he got real jail time. Don't commit a crime in Maricopa County, because you're not going to jail for more than a weekend for a DUI with a .17 BAC pretty much anywhere else. Good for them.

stevew · 11-10-2015, 10:57 PM

How did I miss that the saints had 2QBs named "Billy Joe" that both started for them in the 90s

Suicane75 · 11-10-2015, 11:19 PM

Tolliver and ???

11-09-2015, 02:04 AM	#57
NobodyHere Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2013	Look's like the Bronco's D has been taking tips from Ndamukong Suh: Watch Craig Stout's Vine "Von Miller putting his knee on the throat of a downed opponent." and that's in addition to Talib's eyepoke. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

11-09-2015, 08:27 PM	#68
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Woot Woot Airman Doolittle! __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

11-09-2015, 10:07 PM	#69
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	The phrase "Jay Cutler, franchise leader in touchdown passes" should never be spoken. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

11-09-2015, 10:34 PM	#70
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Looks like ESPN is using the JAX on-field arrow for down and distance, judging by the colors. They must have sold the SD one to raise a little extra cash. __________________ null

11-10-2015, 09:21 AM	#76
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Probably not ideal...but it doesn't really matter. In the day and age of marksmen (since about 100 years ago) any exposure is bad exposure... Remember Dallas Cowboys stand-out, Chad Hennings? He was an A-10 pilot and quite larger than the ideal pilot...but he did just fine as well. Chad Hennings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Or to relate it even better....Mugsy Bogues didn't show the ideal NBA player characteristics, but found his niche and excelled. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muggsy_Bogues Last edited by Dutch : 11-10-2015 at 09:23 AM.

11-08-2015, 09:59 PM	#52
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	The fact that he's playing in his first new offense since he was a rookie probably has something to do with his struggles.

11-09-2015, 09:00 AM	#59
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	He's a great football player, but he's pure douchebag otherwise. Thankfully, I can keep the two separated and just appreciate his skillz on the field of play. But yeah, going for the career ending injury eye-poke deserves some recognition from the league office.

11-09-2015, 10:26 AM	#61
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Goodnight Rams.. another season will go by without a playoff game.

11-09-2015, 04:20 PM	#63
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Talib suspended 1 game and is appealing. I've already said I wished he'd get two games. I hope he loses the appeal (I doubt he will) I just don't understand hwo PacMan can rip a helmet off of someone and pound their head into it without a suspension, but this draws one. What a freaking league. By the way Talib, you say it's an accident? BS. Stop lying through your teeth.

11-09-2015, 05:19 PM	#64
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Got to give Rex Ryan credit for extraordinary trolling expertise. IK Enemkpali is going to be a team captain against the Jets. The act must wear thin after a while, but I'm sure the Bills love it right now. Talib? I've never seen a more harmful self-destructive penalty. If that didn't wake him up, nothing will. One game, ten games, a hundred... it doesn't matter.

11-10-2015, 01:45 AM	#72
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Dion Lewis getting hurt kind of sucks. That was a good story.

11-10-2015, 07:31 AM	#73
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	So I'm barely following the Steelers this year but it appears that we are starting a former Army Ranger at LT and he's a mountain of a man 6'9", 340lbs. 3 tours of duty in Afghanistan. Once he was able to consistently eat and weight train, he went up from 270#

11-10-2015, 07:44 AM	#74
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Very cool.

11-10-2015, 07:51 AM	#75
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Alejandro Villanueva (American football - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) One more thought... Isn't a 6'9" Ranger a pretty big liability on the battlefield? There's so much of him that can get hit by enemy fire. I'd suspect shorter guys make much better soldiers.

11-10-2015, 12:04 PM	#77
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Villanueva shut down Cinci's pass rush pretty well in the game I saw. He was a camp body in Cinci before he went off to fulfill his duty in the military, they said good things about him then. I feel like that kind of height can be a liability against shorter pass rushers, but from what I've seen he has a bright future. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

11-10-2015, 12:57 PM	#79
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Talib should have a multi-game suspension. Heck, I'd be okay with him missing the rest of the season. You can't just poke someone in the eye. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-10-2015, 03:37 PM	#84
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Luck out 2-6 weeks with lacerated kidney. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...cerated-kidney __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946 Last edited by miami_fan : 11-10-2015 at 03:54 PM. Reason: Added the link

11-10-2015, 03:55 PM	#86
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	"Luck out" has a new meaning now. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-10-2015, 04:01 PM	#87
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Watching Luck this season is like watching one of those old-school boxing movies. We identify with him - nice kid from a tough area, finds he has a talent for boxing. He moves his way up the ranks, taking a terrific punishment for 14 rounds (somehow in these movies, even amateurs fight for 15 rounds), then delivering the last-second knockout. Mr. Miyagi and a random blonde invariably help them back to their apartments, where they cling to life only to rise for a new bout, against doctor's orders, a few days later. Poor Luck. But he definitely exemplifies the importance of having a good (and healthy) quarterback in the NFL.

11-10-2015, 04:28 PM	#90
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I'm not saying that's not how it's always been done. Just looking for new ways to handle stupidity. I should stop thinking outside of the box....way too progressive for me.

11-10-2015, 04:56 PM	#91
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Wow, the backup QB market is getting barren. Colts are going to need to sign someone, and the options are basically Ponder and ?

11-10-2015, 05:40 PM	#94
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I think Ryan Mallett is available! __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

11-10-2015, 05:52 PM	#95
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Suspension upheld. I am elated and shocked. Four things: 1) I hope this means that any future player who beats the hell out of a women does not a get a reduced suspension. 2) I hope Talib doesn't go to court over this nonsense. He'd have a case. Simply show the Adam Jones incident from earlier in the year and point out the NFL is inconsistent. (Hey, I saw one guy take off a helmet and slam the other guys head into it, why would I think a simple eye gouge would get me suspended?)I really don't want to cheer for a player who is dirty or who cheats and then lies through his teeth about it. Actually getting away with it because of the past inconsistencies of the league office is/would be disgraceful. 3) I hope this sets the tone for the future. Jones should have been suspended and there are other incidents that deserve it as well. Time for the league to actually take action on this stuff. 4) I wish the suspension would have been for at least two games and NOT reduced. Talib is a jack ass. He deserves it. Period. Any Broncos fan who denies that fact is delusional.

11-10-2015, 07:16 PM	#97
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Maybe McNabb can get in shape in the prison yard real fast. __________________ null

11-10-2015, 10:57 PM	#99
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	How did I miss that the saints had 2QBs named "Billy Joe" that both started for them in the 90s

11-10-2015, 11:19 PM	#100
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Tolliver and ???

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