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I feel bad for my copies of Madden and NCAA.. this game is going to be a classic.. and get most of my free playing time.
Even on pro default the game has grown leaps and bounds imho.. I loved 2k's board play, but EA nailed it and it flows so nicely. Game is definitely "organic" and the atmosphere is really intense. Camera seems a bit closer to the ice and I love that. Goalies have a bunch of new animations and I actually like the fighting. This game can't come soon enough!!! Last edited by MizzouRah : 08-20-2009 at 11:05 PM. |
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08-20-2009, 11:06 PM | #52 |
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The Detroit crowd waving their towels.. great stuff!
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08-21-2009, 09:03 AM | #53 |
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OK, I think I've finally met my match with the NHL series, as I went with Superstar/Hardcore in the demo, and I finally felt a real challenge, even while my CPU teammates were playing better than they ever have in this series.
The best part of the game is the PUCK. I know that sounds funny, but it is the most realistic it has ever been. When players block the puck, it doesn't automatically go to the same places like it did last year. It deflects anywhere, sometimes closer to the goal, sometimes in the corner, sometimes out of the zone. As the Pens, I learned that its not worth it to pressure Lidstrom and Rafalski with the puck, but when Lilja has the puck, you notice a BIG difference. Lilja is slower and struggles handling the puck. One time, I pressed him in their own zone, so he tried to turn away and he lost the puck into the corner. I pinned him against the boards and a teammate picked up the puck and we had a good scoring chance. Something that's very realistic, but I've never seen in a hockey game before. Another first was when I was Detroit and Matt Cooke ended up with a breakaway, and I got called for a penalty, so a penalty shot for Cooke, who's not the most skilled player. He goes in for the penalty shot, makes a deke, then just COMPLETELY loses the puck in the corner w/o taking a shot! With these unskilled players, you really do need to keep it simple, stupid. My struggle is with the passing, especially back to the point. I either pass it right to the middle and the other team gets it, or I pass it out of the zone. Also passing through center ice is quite difficult as well, but I think that's just VERY realistic, even though the CPU does a much better job of it (hopefully that's something a slider can fix). Overall, it is difficult to learn and get used to, but I already like it better than 09. I've never been happier to have such a sloppy (realistic) game of hockey. |
08-21-2009, 11:12 AM | #54 |
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I'm with you Turner.. the puck physics are perfect.
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08-21-2009, 11:58 AM | #55 |
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PS3 demo comes out Thursday for those that were wondering.
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08-28-2009, 06:39 AM | #56 |
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Question from a hockey newb. I've always thought a good defense philosophy was to prevent a clear shot at the net (ie - standing between the puck and the goalie at a reasonable distance) but I've let up a couple goals using this philosophy because I've blocked the goalies vision. Is my philosophy flawed or are these just a consequence?
I've never got a good grasp on hockey strategy, probably since I've only ever play via video games. Last edited by Balldog : 08-28-2009 at 06:40 AM. |
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Good strategy but in NHL09 or 10, you need to hit the block button to lay down and either stop it or at least to not screen your goalie. If you just stand there in front of your goalie, you will screen him.
Usually you better position yourself in front of the goalie but at the side, letting him to see what is going on while you cover more the sides of the net and hitting any forward that tries to get in there to screen the goalie or to score from a deflection or rebound.
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08-28-2009, 09:15 AM | #58 |
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I thought the NHL 10 demo was due out on the PSN yesterday. What happened?
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08-28-2009, 09:25 AM | #60 |
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It is in the Euro store since yesterday, you can create an account and download it easily.
I loved nhl09, but nhl10 is almost perfect. It's slower & more dirty board gameplay make it way more NHL realistic, no more easy tape to tape passes, no more dangling all the opposite team, no more arcade hits, etc. you need to work hard for the puck, be physical and play good position.
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08-28-2009, 09:47 AM | #61 |
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I can't wait for this game to come out!
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08-28-2009, 11:40 AM | #62 |
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08-29-2009, 12:07 AM | #63 |
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Played the demo a lot tonight, I'm hooked! I think Madden is going to get shelved come September 15.
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08-29-2009, 04:22 PM | #64 |
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Played the demo a few times today and wow. This game is really amazing. I'm not a huge hockey fan but this is a game I don't think I can pass up. EA really knows how to build a game when they are pushed.
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09-07-2009, 02:58 PM | #65 |
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Anyone know of any good strategy websites? And a good website for a season preview? I haven't ever played hockey, I can't skate So I'm not certain of all the strategies that can be utilized. And I haven't paid much attention to the NHL for about 10 years so I've lost touch with who is who.
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09-15-2009, 10:32 AM | #66 |
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Heading out to Gamestop to pick up my copy...
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09-15-2009, 10:50 AM | #67 |
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I should have mine already but it was stopped in the customs and won't have it until tomorrow :/
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09-15-2009, 10:57 AM | #68 |
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I intend to buy the game tonight. I'm most excited about the "hardcore" mode and the improved board play. The only disappointing impression I've read is that it's still a pain in the ass to import music into the game because it is a slllloooooowww process. If that's the worst thing about the game, though, I'll definitely enjoy it!
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09-15-2009, 11:25 AM | #71 |
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I'll be picking this up on my way home from work tonight.
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09-15-2009, 11:32 AM | #72 |
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Hey Brad!
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09-15-2009, 12:55 PM | #73 |
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Wow.. only one game, but I am STOKED! I saw so many new things in just one game.
Board play flows so well, the whole game just feels like a hockey game throughout. New goalie animations look great, player AI is superb and makes great decisions. Getting rebound goals are a thing of beauty. So far everything is great... Be sure to download the roster update and new tuner version 1.1. |
09-15-2009, 01:07 PM | #74 |
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I think after a while, this would be enough to make me switch to a new username. |
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09-15-2009, 01:23 PM | #76 |
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This game is simply amazing. I am loving the online play. So far it's very smooth. The game itself just plays very well. It feels like real hockey.
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09-15-2009, 02:09 PM | #77 |
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OS review was mostly positive but it mentioned that the CPU opponents play much smarter than the AI of teammates. Also, it said that the CPU passes too often and too accurate even with slider adjustments. Howewver, the reviewer said this was pre tuning release. Anyone else seeing this?
As an aside, the tuning that doesn't require microsodt approval sounds brilliant. I hope this concept spreads to other games. |
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I would disagree, my CPU teammates seem to always be where I want them to be. I think the CPU sets up for better shots, which is why I'm seeing realistic shot totals so far - FINALLY! |
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All I care about: Are they still callimg Matt Stajan "Stay-an"?
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Sorry guys, game is broken.
Went to pick this up at lunch and Futureshop had the game on display. Picked up the controller to play and about 6 minutes in was able to score with Horcoff on a one timer. I'll let that sink in for a second. No, not a, stop the pass, look at the net, look back down, shovel it towards the net in a hope the goalie still hasn't gotten there yet manner, nor was this the 3rd or 4th one timer set up to him at the same spot on the ice in one shift where he'd finally get the timing down. It was a true one timer and he even went top shelf with it. I had high hopes, but with unrealistic play like this my dream of a true to life hockey game goes on hold for another year.
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09-15-2009, 03:41 PM | #84 |
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Played my first game as Columbus vs. Nashville. I won 2-1, with 29 shots for me and 23 against. I was 2/7 for PP and NSH was 1/8. Fantastic game, Chimera scored on a 5-3 PP on a garbage goal (Rebound came right to him and he scored 5-hole on Rinne).
BTW, this was on SuperStar and Current game style (edited Hardcore) Here's what I edited and some thoughts about each: Tuner Set: Latest - Didn't play w/ the original set, but gameplay was great with the latest set Game Length: 12 minutes - Feels like a pretty good length, at least in terms of stats and such. Gonna keep this. Game Speed: 1 Player Accel: 2 HUM/2 CPU - Seemed to be a good speed, faster players (Chimera) were noticeably fast Attribute Effects: Maxed - Definitely a great slider to have this year, felt like the best players were the best, and the 4th liners had little skill. Belak was in for the Preds and couldn't make a pass to save his life. Dump and chase is the way to go with those guys, as in real life. Fatigue Effect: 6 HUM/6 CPU Fatigue Recovery: 1 HUM/ 1 CPU Injury Occurrence: 6 (max) HUM/ 6 CPU I think the fatigue effect was a little much, so I'm going with 5/5 for my next set of games. I also didn't analyze the ice time, but I'll check that next game and see if ice time matches real life. Another thing is that fatigue definitely affects play, as guys who got stuck on the ice for a while had trouble making passes. Another awesome moment: Tyutin hurt his wrist from an attempted stick lift by Hornqvist. On top of that, Hornqvist got a game misconduct for it! As long as this doesn't happen every game and for every injury, I'm happy to see this in. Puck Control: 0/0 Stick Lift Effect: 5/5 Poke Check Effect: 5/5 - Seems excessive, but the top guys still keep the puck most of the time and it is easy to get the puck from the lower end guys. This makes the game sloppier with the unskilled players, but skill still prevails with the better players. CPU Difficulty: 3 CPU Faceoff Difficulty: 4 CPU and CPU Teammate Penalties: 6 - Good game from a middling team. I'm turning down penalties from 6 to 5 for both settings, as there are too many scrum penalties. I'm hoping to still see about 5 or 6 PP's each game. Manual Passing: On Pass Speed (and Saucer): 4 Pass Accuracy: 1 HUM/0 CPU Pass Interceptions: 6/6 - Accuracy is tough to gauge, and I think it will depend on how well you do with the manual passing. I had it at 1 for me, but I'm going up to 3, as I missed too many passes in my own zone, killing any offense. 0 is good for CPU, as they still complete plenty of their passes, but longer passes aren't as accurate, something that is very realistic. Also, fatigue effects accuracy as well. Shot (Wrist and Slap) Accuracy: 1/1 Shot (Wrist and Slap) Power: 1/1 One-Timer Accuracy: 1/1 - Power is a little too low, as there were too many weak shots, so I'm upping to 3/3 for both wrist and slapshots. Accuracy was fine for now, but I might go up to 2/2 for that. I don't remember any one timers for me, as it is too hard to pass into the slot with the manual passing. Hitting Difficulty: 5 Aggression: 5/5 Hitting Power: 2/2 - This is crazy to say, but there were not enough hits that knocked players off of the puck, even with the stronger players. So I'm upping the hitting power to 3/3. Goalie: Default Hardcore, except Cover Puck: 6 - Goalies played really well, Mason made a couple of fantastic saves to keep it 2-1 for me. Overall, I think this game, while not perfect, is much more realistic than any game I played of 09. |
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Nah, they already seem to have MacT out from behind the bench so I think this glitch has been taken care of.
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I'm holding off on this one until I read impressions here. I read too many reviews that said this is just NHL 09 with board play and stupid first person fighting. I have the demo and it feels a lot like NHL 09. Sometimes I feel like the game is sucking me into the board play simply because I'm near the boards before the puck gets there. NHL 09 is a fun game but I want a better, improved game rather than the same game with a couple of new features (it seems).
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Picked this up after work, went to sleep, and now am ready to play! Can't wait.
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Oh yea, quick question...
I need a team. I don't follow hockey at all, so I don't have a team that I root for that would make sense to play as. Anyone have any suggestions? I like good goalies and strong defenses. |
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Seems like Edmonton and Calgary have both decided that you only need 1-2 skill forwards if you have 4 top earning D and a solid goalie. Do you prefer mobile/offensive type D, big hitters or a balanced group?
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How about a good team to rebuild? Are the Coyotes still a mess?
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Yes. As are the Islanders. I think I read that you can do one of those Fantasy Drafts to start the game. I've always been a big fan of those. A fun way to start a game and build your team how you want.
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Detroit, Calgary, Edmonton, Nashville, Washington with some varying levels of rebuilding to be done with each depending on how much of a challenge you want and what other team strengths/weaknesses you like.
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And an excellent way to get rid of the cap headaches teams may have backed themselves into up to this point (yes Lowe, I'm looking at you).
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Yes. I'd suggest Nashville if you want a decent team with several good young players. The Predators are seemingly two or three players away from being very good.
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Yes, it was. This is the mode I'm most interested in trying out. Just had time to re-read the review and it was referring to that mode. Anyway, overall the review is very positive and with the positive impressions here so far, I'll likely pick this up this week. |
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