Official College Football Thread - Week 10 - Page 2

Eaglesfan27 · 11-05-2011, 12:31 AM

Colorado actually had a fairly full stadium, just arrived late. Read there were parking issues.

In any case, I know Colorado isn't very good, but it was still nice to see USC take care of business. Barkley set a USC record with 6 passing TD's tonight.

Suicane75 · 11-05-2011, 11:59 AM

Brian Wilson is being awesome on College Gameday right now.

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 12:12 PM

7-0 Iowa.

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 12:33 PM

Iowa fails on a 4 and 1. Michigan takes it down for a score with a nifty run by Toussaint. Robinson stays in the pocket long enough to where even I am screaming for him to run with it but finds Toussaint in the end zone. Bad snap on the extra point means it's 7-6.

I'm really starting to like Toussaint as a player. He's patient and reads blocks really well. His run had a great cut back in it. He won't power over people so he needs blocking but given a little space and he's effective.

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Iowa at least ran the ball last week and I don't think Michigan has that good of run defense yet, so I think it has a chance of being close. The key for Michigan offensively is the run blocking of the OL to help get the running game going outside of Robinson and if Robinson can throw even decently.

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Iowa lost to fucking Minnesota. Minnesota, who has lost to both New Mexico State and North Dakota State.

While I appreciate your attempt to not overplay your hand, if Michigan doesn't win by at least 2 touchdowns, it's kind of an embarrassment.

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

I have to agree, especially since Michigan beat Minnesota 58-0....

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I look at this much more from a match up point of view. It's why I knew MSU was beating Michigan. Michigan can be run on. Robinson will forever be a QB that can throw for under 50% completion percentage, and oh by the way, he still has 11 INTs to go with his 11 passing TDs. Let's not forget the utter and complete lack of quality road wins by Big Ten teams.

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Iowa has the worst pass defense in the B1G. Iowa has terrible STs. Iowa struggles passing the ball. Yeah, If Michigan doesnt beat us by at least 2 TDs, they are way overrated.

EDIT: I forgot to add that we cant stop a running QB.

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Yes, Minnesota IS that bad. See post #12 in this thread.

(whistles innocently)

14-6 Iowa.

RedKingGold · 11-05-2011, 01:16 PM

Really bad stuff coming out of Penn State about Jerry Sandusky (former long-time defensive coordinator), Joe Paterno, and the PSU Athletic Director:

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/press.aspx?id=6270

I think as time goes on, more will come out making the program look very, very bad. If any of this is true, the PSU athetic department, and its football program, needs a clean sweep.

DeToxRox · 11-05-2011, 01:20 PM

Michigan play calling is beyond atrocious today. Just giving this gamre away today.

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Michigan play calling is beyond atrocious today. Just giving this gamre away today.

As much as Spielman is annoying me by complaining every time Gardner goes in, that offense really isn't doing anything. If you are going to put in the QB who has an arm, use it.

I do find the Minnesota/MSU score rather entertaining. 17-14 Minnesota. It's at MSU as well.

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 01:40 PM

OU mailed in that game.

mckerney · 11-05-2011, 02:09 PM

I can't even believe Minnesota is still in this game.

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 02:29 PM

Unless Robinson flips some sort of switch, this game is over. 24-9 Iowa.

I still think MSU finds a way to win, but it's still 24-21 Minn.

RPI-Fan · 11-05-2011, 02:57 PM

UVA surging in the second half, up 28-13 on Maryland after trailing 13-7. Go Hoos!!!!!

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 03:12 PM

That was a great TD catch by Michigan that got ruled an incomplete.

mckerney · 11-05-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

That was a great TD catch that got ruled an incomplete by Michigan.

Wow, I was sure they'd overturn that. Looked like he clearly had his knee down with possession.

TroyF · 11-05-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

That was a great TD catch that got ruled an incomplete by Michigan.

No question. Every ref associated with the replay should be fired. And no, I'm not joking.

FWIW, Michigan was screwed repeatedly be the refs today. An INT near the goal line at the end of the first half was obvious PI (not even close)

Michigan blew plenty of chances to win the game (including a wide open bomb Denard missed near the end), but the refs took a sure fire 10 points away from Michigan in an 8 point game. They decided the outcome today, not the players.

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 03:25 PM

Bad calls happen, but it should have been overturned in the booth. Michigan's offense mailed in enough of this game I'm not going to simply blame the refs. The only time Michigan moved the ball was at the end when Iowa was up 24-9 and they knew they could bend decently but not break.

cartman · 11-05-2011, 03:27 PM

This is why I love college football:

OU 55 - Texas 17
Texas Tech 41 - OU 38
Texas 52 - Texas Tech 20

In the past two games, Texas has out-rushed their opponents 880 yards to 28 yards. Haven't seen that since the old wishbone days.

mckerney · 11-05-2011, 03:33 PM

Damn, too many mistakes for Minnesota in the second half, starting with the quick TD given up before the half.

bronconick · 11-05-2011, 03:38 PM

Ferentz post game: "It's nice to be leading whatever division we're in."

Hahahaha.

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

Ferentz post game: "It's nice to be leading whatever division we're in."

Hahahaha.

Which, they aren't.

RPI-Fan · 11-05-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

No question. Every ref associated with the replay should be fired. And no, I'm not joking.

FWIW, Michigan was screwed repeatedly be the refs today. An INT near the goal line at the end of the first half was obvious PI (not even close)

Michigan blew plenty of chances to win the game (including a wide open bomb Denard missed near the end), but the refs took a sure fire 10 points away from Michigan in an 8 point game. They decided the outcome today, not the players.

What on earth are you talking about? He trapped the ball against the ground. As much as I think the "go to the ground with possession" rule is stupid, as it exists that is an easy call - incomplete. And it certainly was not a matter of "incidental" contact with the ground - he used the ground in order to possess the ball.

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

What on earth are you talking about? He trapped the ball against the ground. As much as I think the "go to the ground with possession" rule is stupid, as it exists that is an easy call - incomplete. And it certainly was not a matter of "incidental" contact with the ground - he used the ground in order to possess the ball.

From what the announcers were saying, the ball hitting the ground didn't matter as long as he showed it being under control.

M GO BLUE!!! · 11-05-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

From what the announcers were saying, the ball hitting the ground didn't matter as long as he showed it being under control.

And it looked under control to me.

IT doesn't matter... if one bad call costs you the game, you didn't do what was needed to win. Michigan was outplayed all day and was lucky to even be there at the end.

RPI-Fan · 11-05-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

From what the announcers were saying, the ball hitting the ground didn't matter as long as he showed it being under control.

That might be a correct statement of the rule, but it is not applicable to the play. The ball was under control before he hit the ground, but he used the ground in order to maintain control.

As I said above, I am as big of a hater of the "maintain possession all the way through the catch rule" as anyone, but as the rule is written is was the correct call, no doubt in my mind.

Easy Mac · 11-05-2011, 04:07 PM

furman just beat app state! Beat the #4 and #3 teams in consecutive home games.

how did we lose to Coastal and Samford?

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

The ball was under control before he hit the ground,... but as the rule is written is was the correct call, no doubt in my mind.

Um....

Ksyrup · 11-05-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

The ball was sliding out and he used the ground to trap it. Incomplete pass.

Yep. I wanted it to be a TD, but it was ruled incomplete and there's no way that was enough evidence to overturn the call. There was just enough to show the ball coming out as he hit the ground. You can't have a catch by "securing" a pass that bounces back up into your stomach or arms, no matter how close it is.

BillJasper · 11-05-2011, 04:17 PM

Funny how a single throw can change your thinking on a quarterback. Just watched Landry Jones throw a pass to a receiver who had five defenders within three yards. Terrible throw when he was under absolutely no pressure and it should've been easily intercepted.

He'd slide right out of the first round of the draft after that throw on my draft board.

Ksyrup · 11-05-2011, 04:32 PM

Apparently Big 10 favorites are all in a race to the bottom. Nebraska down 7-0 mid-2nd quarter. Yeesh.

Ksyrup · 11-05-2011, 04:38 PM

BTW, is there no discussion of the Sandusky scandal? This is not only unfathomable and sickening, but could finally lead to JoePa being gone. It appears he had some knowledge of things, and if the timing suggests the guy was still a part of the football team after JoePa reported an incident, it might raise enough questions to force him to leave rather than stick around while reporters dig up more connections.

BTW, this whole thing is worse than SMU, USC, Miami, Ohio State, and Cam Newton combined, times a million.

To make matters worse, Sandusky has a book called "Touched - The Jerry Sandusky Story." Seriously.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-05-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

BTW, is there no discussion of the Sandusky scandal? This is not only unfathomable and sickening, but could finally lead to JoePa being gone. It appears he had some knowledge of things, and if the timing suggests the guy was still a part of the football team after JoePa reported an incident, it might raise enough questions to force him to leave rather than stick around while reporters dig up more connections.

BTW, this whole thing is worse than SMU, USC, Miami, Ohio State, and Cam Newton combined, times a million.

To make matters worse, Sandusky has a book called "Touched - The Jerry Sandusky Story." Seriously.

Agreed - this is sickening. It's a farce if the NCAA doesn't take action.

bhlloy · 11-05-2011, 04:51 PM

JoePa is a sacred institution. What do you expect to happen?

Ksyrup · 11-05-2011, 04:53 PM

This is on a whole other level, though. This isn't about academics vs. athletics, or pro vs. amateur. This is equivalent to the Catholic church stuff.

mckerney · 11-05-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Which, they aren't.

In his defense he never said that they were, just that it's nice when you are.

mauchow · 11-05-2011, 05:01 PM

Good to see Wisconsin continue its domination of sub-par teams. So damn close to a great season. Hope and pray we can get into the B1GCG.

cuervo72 · 11-05-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Gosh, hope this doesn't hurt the Dawgs too bad against mighty New Mexico State.

Seriously...NM State? I thought every NCAA game was of major importance, especially in the SEC.

RedKingGold · 11-05-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

This is on a whole other level, though. This isn't about academics vs. athletics, or pro vs. amateur. This is equivalent to the Catholic church stuff.

This. This is beyond NCAA type stuff. As I posted earlier in this thread, I think we've only scratched the surface. It was a pretty big surprise when Sandusky retired in 1999, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are instances back then that were known by PSU and not reported.

tucker rocky · 11-05-2011, 05:34 PM

Is Keith Jackson going to be in the booth for the LSU/Alabama game?

dawgfan · 11-05-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

BTW, is there no discussion of the Sandusky scandal? This is not only unfathomable and sickening, but could finally lead to JoePa being gone. It appears he had some knowledge of things, and if the timing suggests the guy was still a part of the football team after JoePa reported an incident, it might raise enough questions to force him to leave rather than stick around while reporters dig up more connections.

BTW, this whole thing is worse than SMU, USC, Miami, Ohio State, and Cam Newton combined, times a million.

To make matters worse, Sandusky has a book called "Touched - The Jerry Sandusky Story." Seriously.

It really deserves its own thread. I'd like to hear from some Penn State fans to know what the story was with him "retiring" at age 55 in '99 - sounds fishy to me in light of these allegations.

RomaGoth · 11-05-2011, 05:37 PM

Oregon State making things interesting against Stanford and Nebraska now losing 14-3 to Northwestern.

cartman · 11-05-2011, 05:41 PM

I could have sworn I saw a thread with the Penn State stuff earlier today.

bronconick · 11-05-2011, 05:42 PM

Yeah, Penn State's not a NCAA issue. It's a new President/Board of Regents burning the athletic department to the ground and starting anew type of issue.

Kodos · 11-05-2011, 05:49 PM

That article about Penn State is just plain sickening. They are my second-favorite college football team, but what occurred there is unforgivable.

Matthean · 11-05-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I could have sworn I saw a thread with the Penn State stuff earlier today.

Post #57. It will be interesting to see how the fall out of this happens. Joe Pa is one of the most respected college football coaches ever and could be deemed invincible outside of something of this nature.

11-05-2011, 12:12 PM	#54
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	7-0 Iowa. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

11-05-2011, 12:33 PM	#55
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Iowa fails on a 4 and 1. Michigan takes it down for a score with a nifty run by Toussaint. Robinson stays in the pocket long enough to where even I am screaming for him to run with it but finds Toussaint in the end zone. Bad snap on the extra point means it's 7-6. I'm really starting to like Toussaint as a player. He's patient and reads blocks really well. His run had a great cut back in it. He won't power over people so he needs blocking but given a little space and he's effective. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

11-05-2011, 01:40 PM	#61
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	OU mailed in that game. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

11-05-2011, 02:29 PM	#63
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Unless Robinson flips some sort of switch, this game is over. 24-9 Iowa. I still think MSU finds a way to win, but it's still 24-21 Minn. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

11-05-2011, 02:57 PM	#64
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	UVA surging in the second half, up 28-13 on Maryland after trailing 13-7. Go Hoos!!!!! __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

11-05-2011, 11:59 AM	#53
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Brian Wilson is being awesome on College Gameday right now.

11-05-2011, 01:16 PM	#57
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Really bad stuff coming out of Penn State about Jerry Sandusky (former long-time defensive coordinator), Joe Paterno, and the PSU Athletic Director: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/press.aspx?id=6270 I think as time goes on, more will come out making the program look very, very bad. If any of this is true, the PSU athetic department, and its football program, needs a clean sweep.

11-05-2011, 01:20 PM	#58
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Michigan play calling is beyond atrocious today. Just giving this gamre away today.

11-05-2011, 02:09 PM	#62
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I can't even believe Minnesota is still in this game.

11-05-2011, 03:12 PM	#65
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	That was a great TD catch by Michigan that got ruled an incomplete. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 11-05-2011 at 03:15 PM.

11-05-2011, 03:25 PM	#69
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Bad calls happen, but it should have been overturned in the booth. Michigan's offense mailed in enough of this game I'm not going to simply blame the refs. The only time Michigan moved the ball was at the end when Iowa was up 24-9 and they knew they could bend decently but not break. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 11-05-2011 at 03:25 PM.

11-05-2011, 03:27 PM	#70
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	This is why I love college football: OU 55 - Texas 17 Texas Tech 41 - OU 38 Texas 52 - Texas Tech 20 In the past two games, Texas has out-rushed their opponents 880 yards to 28 yards. Haven't seen that since the old wishbone days. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 11-05-2011 at 03:39 PM. Reason: 880 yards, not 480

11-05-2011, 03:33 PM	#71
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Damn, too many mistakes for Minnesota in the second half, starting with the quick TD given up before the half.

11-05-2011, 03:38 PM	#72
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Ferentz post game: "It's nice to be leading whatever division we're in." Hahahaha.

11-05-2011, 04:07 PM	#78
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	furman just beat app state! Beat the #4 and #3 teams in consecutive home games. how did we lose to Coastal and Samford?

11-05-2011, 04:17 PM	#82
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Funny how a single throw can change your thinking on a quarterback. Just watched Landry Jones throw a pass to a receiver who had five defenders within three yards. Terrible throw when he was under absolutely no pressure and it should've been easily intercepted. He'd slide right out of the first round of the draft after that throw on my draft board. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

11-05-2011, 04:32 PM	#84
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Apparently Big 10 favorites are all in a race to the bottom. Nebraska down 7-0 mid-2nd quarter. Yeesh. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-05-2011, 04:38 PM	#85
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	BTW, is there no discussion of the Sandusky scandal? This is not only unfathomable and sickening, but could finally lead to JoePa being gone. It appears he had some knowledge of things, and if the timing suggests the guy was still a part of the football team after JoePa reported an incident, it might raise enough questions to force him to leave rather than stick around while reporters dig up more connections. BTW, this whole thing is worse than SMU, USC, Miami, Ohio State, and Cam Newton combined, times a million. To make matters worse, Sandusky has a book called "Touched - The Jerry Sandusky Story." Seriously. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-05-2011, 04:51 PM	#87
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	JoePa is a sacred institution. What do you expect to happen?

11-05-2011, 04:53 PM	#89
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	This is on a whole other level, though. This isn't about academics vs. athletics, or pro vs. amateur. This is equivalent to the Catholic church stuff. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-05-2011, 05:01 PM	#91
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Good to see Wisconsin continue its domination of sub-par teams. So damn close to a great season. Hope and pray we can get into the B1GCG.

11-05-2011, 05:34 PM	#94
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Is Keith Jackson going to be in the booth for the LSU/Alabama game?

11-05-2011, 05:41 PM	#97
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I could have sworn I saw a thread with the Penn State stuff earlier today. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

11-05-2011, 05:42 PM	#98
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Yeah, Penn State's not a NCAA issue. It's a new President/Board of Regents burning the athletic department to the ground and starting anew type of issue.

11-05-2011, 05:49 PM	#99
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	That article about Penn State is just plain sickening. They are my second-favorite college football team, but what occurred there is unforgivable. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

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