Werewolf LXXXVIII: Game Thread - Page 20

Barkeep49 · 01-26-2009, 09:06 PM

You all do hate such riff-raff running around your town. Such vileness. So you find the guy wearing Gold and Green (doesn't he know how ugly that looks?) and take him to the gallows. When you find his stash you find nothing except evidence that he was one stinking filthy drunk. Which you already knew.

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Beer, ale, whiskey, you don’t care. As long as it’s a drink you like it. Who needs a house? Not you. You just need something good to drink. Due to your homelessness once per game you may block all night actions as you roam the city creating a ruckus. You may not use this ability until Night 3 at the earliest.

Walls - Repaired
Roof - Reapired
Windows - 5 shifts
Artwork - 4 shifts
Carpentry - Repaired

Packer – CR (879), CR (879), KWhit (932), Render (933), DT (934), DT (934)
Chief – Packer (912), Packer (912), JH (915)

Roof – JH (907), Jackal (920), Jackal (920), Tyrith (Roof), Tyrith (Roof), JE (943), JE (943), Danny (944)
Walls – Real (914), Real (914), Real (914)
Windows – Kwhit (932), Danny (944)

Danny · 01-26-2009, 09:08 PM

Is that Windows number accurate Barkeep?

Barkeep49 · 01-26-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Is that Windows number accurate Barkeep?

It is now.

Tyrith · 01-26-2009, 09:13 PM

Well, this will probably make tomorrow pretty simple.

Danny · 01-26-2009, 09:13 PM

I'm not sure if it is time for us villagers to consider a minor victory, but the wolves have now used one night to cause damage. They can only do this one more consecutive night.

I think we should consider using all of our actions tomorrow for repair to make sure all of the work gets done. This will force the wolves to cause damage and we won't lose anyone. Then the following night we again go full on repairs and as long as we get them done, we secure a victory, albeit a minor one.

RealDeal · 01-26-2009, 09:16 PM

So if Packer had a role, why didn't he reveal it, considering he was on the chopping block? Makes no sense at all. That would seem to be pretty useful information to tell people when they are deciding to kill you.

Danny · 01-26-2009, 09:17 PM

Yeah, especially since it wouldn't have made him a primary target anyway.

RealDeal · 01-26-2009, 09:20 PM

For future reference, if you are about to die, reveal whatever role you have, be it important or not. It might save your life.

Danny · 01-26-2009, 09:21 PM

I really think we should consider going for the minor victory (or major if you're an angel?) for tomorrow. We need 9 repair actions and and should have 16 total actions for tomorrow, so if we mandate that everyone split their work 1/1 on windows/artwork, we will finish even if wolves fake it.

RendeR · 01-26-2009, 09:48 PM

He didn't have a role, he was just a vagrant who could cause a ruckus.

After CR's analysis who would have listened to PF had he revealed that was his sole ability? I doubt any of us would.

Sorry PF.

RealDeal · 01-26-2009, 10:35 PM

This may be the night during which I die, so let me get my last word out (again).

Kwhit is top of my list now. Jheinz is second.

Also, thanks to angels being able to accomplish a significant portion of spiritual health maintenance last night, there is a new angel. I don't want to reveal who it is or what powers they have, and I ask at this time that you not do what you did to Alan and ferret him out, but I did want to say it in advance, so that if this person needs to come out, you will not think it is total bs.

Chief Rum · 01-27-2009, 01:07 AM

Sorry, PF. The reasoning was sound, but nothing was certain. Wish you would have come out with your role (not that I could have changed, but others could have).

I understand the desire now to do some counter-lynch on me because of this, and if that's what people choose to do, so be it. That said, it gains you nothing--I don't even have a role to announce. I wish someone had bothered to question my analysis or come up with theories of their own. We're a village, people, not just one guy, and I am out all day as it is.

I still think the reasoning I put up is sound--it just ended up on the wrong guy. The other two suspects on my list based on that reasoning were KWhit and The Jackal.

I should be able to get back on before deadline tomorrow, so I won't have to vote or do work now. I am open to doing all work to finish the cathedral, [articularly since we have another new angel (way to go, angels).

Danny · 01-27-2009, 01:22 AM

I think finishing the work shifts the power back to the village. It basically puts us in the same position we are in tonight, but with work finished and a lot of pressure on the demons.

As of the next morning, we will have 8 people alive, so 16 units of available work to fill 9 units.

5 units on windows, 4 on artwork.

I believe we should divide the work up using the following (assuming RealDeal is the night kill at this point)

Jackal works on Windows
Jackal works on Artwork

Kwhit works on Windows
Kwhit works on Artwork

Tyrith works on Windows
Tyrith works on Artwork

Chief Rum works on Windows
Chief Rum works on Artwork

Jonathan works on Windows
Jonathan works on Artwork

Danny works on Windows
Danny works on Artwork

Render works on Windows
Render works on Artwork

DaddyTorgo works on Windows
DaddyTorgo works on Artwork

This way, no matter whether there are the likely two demons or a possible 3rd, our work will be done.

I know this might cause the village to only get a normal victory, but right now we are on dangerous ground. If there are 2 demons and now 3 angels. that puts us at only 3 or 4 (depending if Real Deal is the one to go) remaining villagers and a possible end game scenario if we get the lynch wrong tomorrow.

Danny · 01-27-2009, 01:26 AM

I think the above play is by far our strongest strategy at this point and I think any quick votes in the morning instead of doing work would only be done by a demon. So if you're a villager or angel lets stick to this strategy unless as a group we decide to do something else.

Danny · 01-27-2009, 02:00 AM

I just realized I forgot Jeheinz, so we will have 18 units of work actually. I still think this strategy is our best bet, but it does put more doubt whether or not a bad lynch tomorrow is end game

Barkeep49 · 01-27-2009, 06:28 AM

This morning the damage is more spread out than what you saw yesterday, and is somewhat substantial. You're so close you can taste it, but you're not quite there yet.

Walls - Repaired
Roof - 6 Shifts
Windows - 5 shifts
Artwork - 4 shifts
Carpentry - 3 shifts

Danny · 01-27-2009, 08:31 AM

That last strategy is thrown out now. Obviously we should go for a combo of repairs and votes today. Today is a very important lynch.

jeheinz72 · 01-27-2009, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I think finishing the work shifts the power back to the village. It basically puts us in the same position we are in tonight, but with work finished and a lot of pressure on the demons.

As of the next morning, we will have 8 people alive, so 16 units of available work to fill 9 units.

5 units on windows, 4 on artwork.

I believe we should divide the work up using the following (assuming RealDeal is the night kill at this point)

Jackal works on Windows
Jackal works on Artwork

Kwhit works on Windows
Kwhit works on Artwork

Tyrith works on Windows
Tyrith works on Artwork

Chief Rum works on Windows
Chief Rum works on Artwork

Jonathan works on Windows
Jonathan works on Artwork

Danny works on Windows
Danny works on Artwork

Render works on Windows
Render works on Artwork

DaddyTorgo works on Windows
DaddyTorgo works on Artwork

This way, no matter whether there are the likely two demons or a possible 3rd, our work will be done.

I know this might cause the village to only get a normal victory, but right now we are on dangerous ground. If there are 2 demons and now 3 angels. that puts us at only 3 or 4 (depending if Real Deal is the one to go) remaining villagers and a possible end game scenario if we get the lynch wrong tomorrow.

I haven't caught up yet, but am I dead or sumpin?

Danny · 01-27-2009, 09:15 AM

Keep reading :P.

I'm off to work, will be on around 5:30eastern.

jeheinz72 · 01-27-2009, 09:44 AM

Haha, yeah, my bad!

The Jackal · 01-27-2009, 11:07 AM

Hmm. So are we thinking of pursuing CR here? I'll abstain on actions till later in the day so that we have a proper spread, but we're thinking most people should work on the cathedral, and we'll have just enough votes to lynch someone?

Tyrith · 01-27-2009, 11:26 AM

Eh, I don't know anymore. I'm hesitant to lynch CR just for the sake of it at this point, even though I know I advertised that way previously. RD's instincts have been pretty good so far in the game - I'd be interested to hear why he thinks we should lynch KWhit.

KWhit · 01-27-2009, 11:32 AM

Me too.

I'm totally in the dark on where to go with my vote next, but I'm no demon.

hoopsguy · 01-27-2009, 02:06 PM

This is riveting.

Hannibal Lecter · 01-27-2009, 02:06 PM

Yeah no kidding! you alls are LAME!

jeheinz72 · 01-27-2009, 02:11 PM

Haha, shush dead people!

Seriously though, I don't have a great read on this entire game.

If we have 18 units left to do though, and 9 people, why wouldn't we just knock out all 18 on work and get the minor win?

I'm thinking for the first time I may just work twice.

Tyrith · 01-27-2009, 02:14 PM

Keeping one in reserve.

WORK ON CARPENTRY

RendeR · 01-27-2009, 03:34 PM

I am the Baron and as the prosecutor, judge and jury in this land I will be voting for SOMEONE tonight.

I have but one unit of work to give to the cathedral tonight.

Passacaglia · 01-27-2009, 04:01 PM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Danny · 01-27-2009, 04:07 PM

Wow nothing happened today

Danny · 01-27-2009, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Haha, shush dead people!

Seriously though, I don't have a great read on this entire game.

If we have 18 units left to do though, and 9 people, why wouldn't we just knock out all 18 on work and get the minor win?

I'm thinking for the first time I may just work twice.

At least one wolf would be sure to fake.

jeheinz72 · 01-27-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

At least one wolf would be sure to fake.

True, there is that. But the balance would be that we wouldn't lynch anyone. Considering we're not overflowing with great leads...

Tyrith · 01-27-2009, 04:35 PM

Because, if nothing else, it makes the game end faster.

VOTE KWHIT

Danny · 01-27-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

True, there is that. But the balance would be that we wouldn't lynch anyone. Considering we're not overflowing with great leads...

It gives the wolves a free night kill though, I think we should lynch someone.

Danny · 01-27-2009, 05:06 PM

WORK IN WINDOWS
VOTE KWHIT

I'd rather there not be funny business, so now someone besides Kwhit would have to throw their vote on someone besides him. If you're a villager, you should using the rest of your points to do work. If we can try and finish the windows and roof. It's going to look real bad if someone go with Kwhit and the person you lynch turns up villager.

Danny · 01-27-2009, 05:07 PM

Poorly typed, but I was saying is it will look really bad if someone votes along with Kwhit and that lynch choice turns up to be someone good.

Danny · 01-27-2009, 05:36 PM

Off to class. Again, it would be best for the village if every villager puts in work and we either lynch Kwhit or force the last wolf to reveal if they try to save him. If he does turn up good, we are still in decent shape with an almost completed cathedral heading into tomorrow.

I think priority is on the windows and roof.

RendeR · 01-27-2009, 05:49 PM

WORK on WINDOWS

The Jackal · 01-27-2009, 05:53 PM

WORK ON ROOF

DaddyTorgo · 01-27-2009, 06:39 PM

home and around. hell of a crazy day kept me away

DaddyTorgo · 01-27-2009, 06:41 PM

wow - i can see i missed nothing

DaddyTorgo · 01-27-2009, 06:56 PM

WORK ON ROOF
WORK ON ARTWORK

Barkeep49 · 01-27-2009, 07:12 PM

I apologize, but I am not feeling well and simply can't muster the energy to stay-up until deadline. I therefore will be running the night and day tomorrow morning around 7 AM, as usual. If you have a night action and would like to send in conditionals based on the results of the lynch and/or progress of the cathedral, send them my way.

RendeR · 01-27-2009, 07:37 PM

Feel better BK.

KWhit · 01-27-2009, 07:41 PM

Not much of a reveal, but here goes, since it looks like I'm target #1.

I'm the Master Carpenter, and NOT a demon. My role states that of the things that I work on, I can choose one per night to make extra strong. Meaning if a demon attacks it, it only takes half damage.

Chief Rum · 01-27-2009, 08:31 PM

What have you been choosing to reinforce? I haven't really seen much evidence of the presence of your abilities in the game to this point. Of course, never saw any evidence of PF's powers either, but he had them.

Speaking of which, BK (and hope you feel better), was I the only player who didn't get any powers? Sheesh!

Back to KWhit:

Even demons get the powers of their roles, so just being Master Carpenter doesn't mean you're not a demon. Just sayin', you know.

Jonathan Ezarik · 01-27-2009, 08:42 PM

WORK ON ROOF

WORK ON ROOF

The Jackal · 01-27-2009, 08:45 PM

WORK ON ROOF

Chief Rum · 01-27-2009, 08:49 PM

Not sure if the deadline is now, and the sim is just run tomorrow, or if we can keep voting. So I will get my work in now.

VOTE WINDOWS
VOTE ARTWORK

DaddyTorgo · 01-27-2009, 08:56 PM

deadline is now i assume.

i've been wondering where the heck everyone is - dreaming up scenarios where i'm the only villager left (with the angels) and all the rest of you are demons

01-26-2009, 09:48 PM	#960
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	He didn't have a role, he was just a vagrant who could cause a ruckus. After CR's analysis who would have listened to PF had he revealed that was his sole ability? I doubt any of us would. Sorry PF. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-27-2009, 01:07 AM	#962
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Sorry, PF. The reasoning was sound, but nothing was certain. Wish you would have come out with your role (not that I could have changed, but others could have). I understand the desire now to do some counter-lynch on me because of this, and if that's what people choose to do, so be it. That said, it gains you nothing--I don't even have a role to announce. I wish someone had bothered to question my analysis or come up with theories of their own. We're a village, people, not just one guy, and I am out all day as it is. I still think the reasoning I put up is sound--it just ended up on the wrong guy. The other two suspects on my list based on that reasoning were KWhit and The Jackal. I should be able to get back on before deadline tomorrow, so I won't have to vote or do work now. I am open to doing all work to finish the cathedral, [articularly since we have another new angel (way to go, angels). __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

01-27-2009, 06:28 AM	#966
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	This morning the damage is more spread out than what you saw yesterday, and is somewhat substantial. You're so close you can taste it, but you're not quite there yet. Walls - Repaired Roof - 6 Shifts Windows - 5 shifts Artwork - 4 shifts Carpentry - 3 shifts Last edited by Barkeep49 : 01-27-2009 at 06:42 AM.

01-27-2009, 03:34 PM	#978
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I am the Baron and as the prosecutor, judge and jury in this land I will be voting for SOMEONE tonight. I have but one unit of work to give to the cathedral tonight. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-27-2009, 05:49 PM	#988
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	WORK on WINDOWS __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-26-2009, 09:08 PM	#952
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Is that Windows number accurate Barkeep?

01-26-2009, 09:13 PM	#954
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Well, this will probably make tomorrow pretty simple.

01-26-2009, 09:13 PM	#955
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm not sure if it is time for us villagers to consider a minor victory, but the wolves have now used one night to cause damage. They can only do this one more consecutive night. I think we should consider using all of our actions tomorrow for repair to make sure all of the work gets done. This will force the wolves to cause damage and we won't lose anyone. Then the following night we again go full on repairs and as long as we get them done, we secure a victory, albeit a minor one.

01-26-2009, 09:16 PM	#956
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	So if Packer had a role, why didn't he reveal it, considering he was on the chopping block? Makes no sense at all. That would seem to be pretty useful information to tell people when they are deciding to kill you.

01-26-2009, 09:17 PM	#957
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Yeah, especially since it wouldn't have made him a primary target anyway.

01-26-2009, 09:20 PM	#958
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	For future reference, if you are about to die, reveal whatever role you have, be it important or not. It might save your life.

01-26-2009, 09:21 PM	#959
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I really think we should consider going for the minor victory (or major if you're an angel?) for tomorrow. We need 9 repair actions and and should have 16 total actions for tomorrow, so if we mandate that everyone split their work 1/1 on windows/artwork, we will finish even if wolves fake it.

01-26-2009, 10:35 PM	#961
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	This may be the night during which I die, so let me get my last word out (again). Kwhit is top of my list now. Jheinz is second. Also, thanks to angels being able to accomplish a significant portion of spiritual health maintenance last night, there is a new angel. I don't want to reveal who it is or what powers they have, and I ask at this time that you not do what you did to Alan and ferret him out, but I did want to say it in advance, so that if this person needs to come out, you will not think it is total bs.

01-27-2009, 01:22 AM	#963
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think finishing the work shifts the power back to the village. It basically puts us in the same position we are in tonight, but with work finished and a lot of pressure on the demons. As of the next morning, we will have 8 people alive, so 16 units of available work to fill 9 units. 5 units on windows, 4 on artwork. I believe we should divide the work up using the following (assuming RealDeal is the night kill at this point) Jackal works on Windows Jackal works on Artwork Kwhit works on Windows Kwhit works on Artwork Tyrith works on Windows Tyrith works on Artwork Chief Rum works on Windows Chief Rum works on Artwork Jonathan works on Windows Jonathan works on Artwork Danny works on Windows Danny works on Artwork Render works on Windows Render works on Artwork DaddyTorgo works on Windows DaddyTorgo works on Artwork This way, no matter whether there are the likely two demons or a possible 3rd, our work will be done. I know this might cause the village to only get a normal victory, but right now we are on dangerous ground. If there are 2 demons and now 3 angels. that puts us at only 3 or 4 (depending if Real Deal is the one to go) remaining villagers and a possible end game scenario if we get the lynch wrong tomorrow.

01-27-2009, 01:26 AM	#964
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think the above play is by far our strongest strategy at this point and I think any quick votes in the morning instead of doing work would only be done by a demon. So if you're a villager or angel lets stick to this strategy unless as a group we decide to do something else.

01-27-2009, 02:00 AM	#965
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I just realized I forgot Jeheinz, so we will have 18 units of work actually. I still think this strategy is our best bet, but it does put more doubt whether or not a bad lynch tomorrow is end game

01-27-2009, 08:31 AM	#967
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	That last strategy is thrown out now. Obviously we should go for a combo of repairs and votes today. Today is a very important lynch.

01-27-2009, 09:15 AM	#969
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Keep reading :P. I'm off to work, will be on around 5:30eastern.

01-27-2009, 11:07 AM	#971
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Hmm. So are we thinking of pursuing CR here? I'll abstain on actions till later in the day so that we have a proper spread, but we're thinking most people should work on the cathedral, and we'll have just enough votes to lynch someone?

01-27-2009, 11:26 AM	#972
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Eh, I don't know anymore. I'm hesitant to lynch CR just for the sake of it at this point, even though I know I advertised that way previously. RD's instincts have been pretty good so far in the game - I'd be interested to hear why he thinks we should lynch KWhit.

01-27-2009, 11:32 AM	#973
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Me too. I'm totally in the dark on where to go with my vote next, but I'm no demon.

01-27-2009, 02:06 PM	#974
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	This is riveting.

01-27-2009, 02:06 PM	#975
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	Yeah no kidding! you alls are LAME!

01-27-2009, 02:14 PM	#977
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Keeping one in reserve. WORK ON CARPENTRY

01-27-2009, 04:01 PM	#979
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

01-27-2009, 04:07 PM	#980
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Wow nothing happened today

01-27-2009, 04:35 PM	#983
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Because, if nothing else, it makes the game end faster. VOTE KWHIT

01-27-2009, 05:06 PM	#985
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	WORK IN WINDOWS VOTE KWHIT I'd rather there not be funny business, so now someone besides Kwhit would have to throw their vote on someone besides him. If you're a villager, you should using the rest of your points to do work. If we can try and finish the windows and roof. It's going to look real bad if someone go with Kwhit and the person you lynch turns up villager.

01-27-2009, 05:07 PM	#986
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Poorly typed, but I was saying is it will look really bad if someone votes along with Kwhit and that lynch choice turns up to be someone good.

01-27-2009, 05:36 PM	#987
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Off to class. Again, it would be best for the village if every villager puts in work and we either lynch Kwhit or force the last wolf to reveal if they try to save him. If he does turn up good, we are still in decent shape with an almost completed cathedral heading into tomorrow. I think priority is on the windows and roof.

01-27-2009, 05:53 PM	#989
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	WORK ON ROOF

01-27-2009, 06:39 PM	#990
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	home and around. hell of a crazy day kept me away

01-27-2009, 06:41 PM	#991
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	wow - i can see i missed nothing

01-27-2009, 06:56 PM	#992
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	WORK ON ROOF WORK ON ARTWORK

01-27-2009, 07:12 PM	#993
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I apologize, but I am not feeling well and simply can't muster the energy to stay-up until deadline. I therefore will be running the night and day tomorrow morning around 7 AM, as usual. If you have a night action and would like to send in conditionals based on the results of the lynch and/or progress of the cathedral, send them my way.