2024 NFL Offseason, Free Agency, and Draft Talk

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Not a fan of the hype around the schedule release, but bonus points to the Chargers for their Sims schedule:


https://twitter.com/chargers/status/...serId=12743780

omg I am being spammed with articles about schedules now. WTF? When will the clickbait stop???

[Bobble]

I was trying to find some perspective on the Goff deal because the goal posts are always moving (get it?). I thought this from a tweet was a valid comparison:

Spotrac
QB Average Salary vs. League Salary Cap at Signing
1. J. Burrow, 24.4%
2. J. Allen, 23.5%
3. J. Herbert, 23.3%
4. L. Jackson, 23.1%
5. P. Mahomes, 22.7%
6. J. Hurts, 22.6%
7. K. Murray, 22.1%
8. D. Watson, 22%
9. D. Prescott, 21.9%
10. J. Goff, 20.7%

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

What were the Lions realistic options if they didn't sign Goff?

This is the key point. Goff is known, Goff works (with this OC, especially). Are you going to go through the season with the distraction of his contract looming and maybe make a run at Prescott (who may or may not be an upgrade anyway)?

I think it's the right choice and in two years with cap rises it's not going to look outlandish anyway.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

omg I am being spammed with articles about schedules now. WTF? When will the clickbait stop???

with all due respect, and all... are you, like, a nine year old girl?

you bring to a football forum such a range of things that seem out of place here, it's like you just typed in random characters into a search engine to get here as if you lost a bet or something

anyway... yes, professional football is a huge money making machine, it has various rules and stuff, and teams do things all year long that make for news for those of us who are fans of it all... that's kinda what we do here (among other things)

best of luck

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

with all due respect, and all... are you, like, a nine year old girl?

you bring to a football forum such a range of things that seem out of place here, it's like you just typed in random characters into a search engine to get here as if you lost a bet or something

anyway... yes, professional football is a huge money making machine, it has various rules and stuff, and teams do things all year long that make for news for those of us who are fans of it all... that's kinda what we do here (among other things)

best of luck

heh it was meant more comically than you took it but I've said before that I haven't really followed football really closely for more than a decade and I don't think I've ever followed offseason this closely. And that's pretty much thanks to you guys peaking my interest. I'm really enjoying it actually.
But lemme guess. It may be possible you think you know everything and thus people like me that know nothing about it, you'd rather ridicule than actually answer or casually chat with. Seems to me ThAT's more the 9 year old behavior you're referring to. So like chill out. That said I really am enjoying reading your off season stuff especially with the cardinals

As for what I was specficially referring to, On my desktop in the lower right corner there is a news feed that pops up and I guess since I have read a bunch of football articles it gives me more. That happened before with the mock draft stuff and that confusedc me. Even you guys complained about those. And now it's doing the same with the schedules. Like not just one but many articles every day lately rating schedules. Just surprised there are just so many which all amount to opinions. Facebook too is doing that. But you guys said it before and probably will say it again that most of that is just garbage. That was kinda my point.

[QuikSand]

will chill out, thanks

[flere-imsaho]

Time to replace QS's heat sink, it would appear.

[albionmoonlight]

[Kodos]

That’s pretty sad.

[stevew]

I love that stat. It’s like when Big Ben had the most qb wins in Browns stadium. Currently second I believe.

[Swaggs]

The best one about the Browns is that six teams have finished first in their division since their last 1st place finish in 1989 (and they actually won (4 out of 5 between '85-'89).

Baltimore (last won in '23), Cincinnati ('22), Pittsburgh ('20), Tennessee Titans ('00), Jacksonville ('99), and the Houston Oilers ('93).

The Titans and Oilers are the same franchise, but technically so are the '89 Browns and Baltimore Ravens.

[Passacaglia]

I saw a dude with a Jets hat last night and thought about telling him this stat.

[albionmoonlight]

Joe Burrow looks like he is going to go back to 1985 to sleep with your girlfriend and there isn't a thing you can do about it, nerd!

[CrimsonFox]

Saw on facebook with the tagline "It's early, but accurate". Made me laugh.

[Passacaglia]

CF, I'm with you about the scheduling -- my google feed was filled with articles like "this team's schedule came out and what it means" for a few days. It's been a while since I've paid attention to how scheduling works, but...WTF? You've got 6 games against your division, 4 games against a division in the other conference, then I think it's 4 games against a division in the same conference, and then probably 3 games based on your rank in your division, now that we're at 17 games instead of 16? And this is all known in advance. Why is there so much freak-out about the schedule all over? Or is it just the social media world, combined with the fact that I'm finally paying attention to the NFL again?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

CF, I'm with you about the scheduling -- my google feed was filled with articles like "this team's schedule came out and what it means" for a few days. It's been a while since I've paid attention to how scheduling works, but...WTF? You've got 6 games against your division, 4 games against a division in the other conference, then I think it's 4 games against a division in the same conference, and then probably 3 games based on your rank in your division, now that we're at 17 games instead of 16? And this is all known in advance. Why is there so much freak-out about the schedule all over? Or is it just the social media world, combined with the fact that I'm finally paying attention to the NFL again?

i think both. Social media world writes articles about things they see written in the bathroom stalls nowadays. And what's worse they take like 1 bit of content and stretch that into multiple pages. And yeah same I'm hyper paying attention now and what's worse things are at a bit of a lull. After the draft I DO want more content and there really isn't much. I think they are making a big deal about the schedules because there's nothing else to write about. As for myself, I'm like...it's a schedule...they will play games. whatever. When they play the games then i will be interested. We don't know how good or bad any of these teams will be yet but that's the fun of it.

Granted I am always interested in anything you guys write here. Just not a hundred facebook articles.

[CrimsonFox]

NFL network is playing an old Super bowl with the Redskins killing the Bills. Am surprised there isn't a mass protest outside their offices.

[Passacaglia]

At least now I don't have to think about how that was the last time the Lions won a playoff game.

[CrimsonFox]

I'm both annoyed and laughing at the several articles in the past week with headlines of
"Harrison Butker Breaks His Silence on Commencement Speech Backlash"

lol no! Seriously he has not ever shut up about it...

[albionmoonlight]

"Butker furious at Woke Mob for not cancelling him yet."

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

"Butker furious at Woke Mob for not cancelling him yet."

It's the soft launch of a post playing political career. Gotta keep it in the headlines as long as possible.

[albionmoonlight]

So I've noticed something. The explosion of online NFL content roughly corresponded to the Drew Brees Saints being good and (more to the point) relative and interesting. You got actual analysis from the national talking heads because it was a team worth discussing.

No more. I have noticed the difference as I've listened to national coverage of the Saints based on the draft, free agency, offseason analysis, etc. It has all been very mailed-in. Clearly just google the team so you can say something generic and then move on to the next team.

I don't blame the national media. A small-market team with a QB with negative rizz expected to win 5-ish games *isn't* nationally interesting. If you are looking for corners to cut, I can see why you do it there.

But it's another post-Brees bummer. It isn't that they suck. It's that they aren't even interesting enough to decide whether they suck.

[QuikSand]

My enjoyment of football on a level well beyond fantasy leagues, DFS, etc has greatly grown in the last few years, in large part to committing to well-done and insightful podcasts.

This episode of the Athletic's pod is a great example of my jam, now.

��️New Athletic Football Show!��️@theStevenRuiz joins me for some lingering questions from 2023 about the AFC North.

How good is the *rest* of Pittsburgh's roster? What happened to Big Lou's defense? Was Watson's late "improvement" real? And more. https://t.co/75oCPB9HNa

— Robert Mays (@robertmays) May 30, 2024

Please do go on, and tell me more about whether the Ravens' 2024 plan at right guard is adequate. You have my drive time attention, fellas.

[GrantDawg]

Chicago Bears are going to be the team for Hard Knocks this season. Good choice.

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[albionmoonlight]

Justin Jefferson 4 years for $140 with $110 guaranteed.

Feels right.

[albionmoonlight]

So in terms of paying players, the S tier is QB. And the A tier is WR, Edge, OT, and CB.

All of these positions, of course, involving either passing or stopping the pass.

I wonder if there is going to be any sort of moneyball-esq reaction where some teams start to try to pick up undervalued positions. The best run-blocking guard in the league, or the best run-stuffing DT in the league have to be worth *something* right? Can a smart team make a run by finding enough value there?

Or is the pass just so much better of a strategy than the run that it really is impossible to build a successful team another way?

[Danny]

Guards went for crazy money this offseason. Linebacker and safety seem to be some solid value posotions.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

My enjoyment of football on a level well beyond fantasy leagues, DFS, etc has greatly grown in the last few years, in large part to committing to well-done and insightful podcasts.

This episode of the Athletic's pod is a great example of my jam, now.

��️New Athletic Football Show!��️@theStevenRuiz joins me for some lingering questions from 2023 about the AFC North.

How good is the *rest* of Pittsburgh's roster? What happened to Big Lou's defense? Was Watson's late "improvement" real? And more. https://t.co/75oCPB9HNa

— Robert Mays (@robertmays) May 30, 2024

Please do go on, and tell me more about whether the Ravens' 2024 plan at right guard is adequate. You have my drive time attention, fellas.

Yes! I love the Athletic Football show. That and The Ringer NFL show tend to be my go-to’s for the NFL along with the Bill Barnwell and Mina Kimes shows. There are a couple of local Lions podcasts I enjoy, as well.

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I think they are making a big deal about the schedules because there's nothing else to write about. As for myself, I'm like...it's a schedule...they will play games. whatever. When they play the games then i will be interested. We don't know how good or bad any of these teams will be yet but that's the fun of it.

I agree with this. It's like the Too Early Top 25 in college, or doing power rankings for the next year immediately after the Super Bowl, and then again after the draft ... filling the appetite of people like some of my former co-workers who were depressed most of the year. Football season is the only time they felt good about life, the rest was just the tragedy you had to live through until it was time again.

[dubb93]

Pre-season is the only time most of my favorite sports teams have a shot at a championship.

[sovereignstar v2]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Pre-season is the only time most of my favorite sports teams have a shot at a championship.

Hope springs eternal

[CrimsonFox]

lol

[albionmoonlight]

A lot of us grew up rooting for teams where the phrase "not yet mathematically eliminated" was a common late season refrain.

[Brian Swartz]

If the Lions could have a good year, then it can happen for any franchise ... eventually. Just sayin'.

[JPhillips]

I'm a Bengals/Reds fan, so yeah I understand the pain.

But miracles (Joe Burrow) do happen!

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'm a Bengals/Reds fan, so yeah I understand the pain.

But miracles (Joe Burrow) do happen!

I went from Bengals/Reds to Lions/Tigers. Oh, my!

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

If the Lions could have a good year, then it can happen for any franchise ... eventually. Just sayin'.

except the Washington Generals

[Danny]

The key to turn it around is to bite them knee caps

[Brian Swartz]

I thought it was to wear a diaper ...

[QuikSand]

#Browns announce they've extended the contracts of Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry. Details coming soon.

— Mary Kay Cabot (@MaryKayCabot) June 5, 2024

Well, I think that I happen to more or less agree with this move and agree it's the right thing for the franchise right now, but... there's an interesting adn compelling case that this front office has just recently executed the worst combination of trade-and-contract in NFL history, and they are getting extensions for it?

[Danny]

Obviously a terrible move but theyve been winning in spite of it. They deserve extensions I think given this is the Browns

[GrantDawg]

This is an impressive stat:

If Corey Linsley retires, he finishes his career with 1,572 straight pass block snaps without allowing a sack, including playoffs (PFF).

It’s the longest active streak in the NFL without allowing a sack

His last sack allowed was in Week 10 of 2020 https://t.co/wrfnkIDIVq

— Doug Clawson (@doug_clawson) June 5, 2024

[GrantDawg]

The Falcons get a slap on the wrist for the "tampering" charges. The league took a 5th round pick for next year and a $250,000 fine for the team making travel arraignments to come to the Falcon's facilities with Cousins and two other players that had already agreed to contracts. To call that tampering when the players had already agreed to terms is a real stretch of the word, but whatever. But whoever the source was (and it was definitely Mike Flourio ass) that kept saying the Falcons where getting "big penalties" and putting this on the level of the Miami Dolphins tampering look like the idiots they are. Mike Florio's crush on Kirk and his butt-hurt over him leaving the Vikings I think may have warped his brain.

[thesloppy]

Florio seems like a tool. It is impressive that he somehow managed to parlay a crappy gossip site into an actual gig as a talking head.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Very true, but I have been visiting his site multiple times a day for decades, so he's doing something right!

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Very true, but I have been visiting his site multiple times a day for decades, so he's doing something right!

Oh me too, I've got it bookmarked, even though it's been like a decade since that site had anything resembling a 'scoop'. Somewhere in there he convinced himself (and whomever pulls the strings) that his opinion was actually what people were coming for.

[albionmoonlight]

Trevor Lawrence extension.

275/5

142 fully guaranteed.

[albionmoonlight]

dola:

Makes the Goff deal look pretty much where you would expect.

And the price for Dak keeps climbing higher with each QB that inks before him.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

dola:

Makes the Goff deal look pretty much where you would expect.

And the price for Dak keeps climbing higher with each QB that inks before him.

Dak eventual deal is going to be fascinating.

[flere-imsaho]

By this time next year, Goff's deal is going to look like an absolute bargain.