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Old 02-01-2010, 01:42 PM   #951
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*yawn* i hate NSD. It's such a circus and gives so much attention to these guys, just further feeding their already inflated ego's and making them think that they are special. and that thinking that they are special is what leads the to make fucked-up decisions later in life.

I was composing a reply about how it has turned into a bit much of a televised circus in recent years ... until I remembered that the network afflliates in Atlanta broke into programming with a live shot from Wrightsville, GA the night Herschel Walker signed with UGA nearly 30 years ago.

Point being that the phenomenon isn't really new, it's just amplified.

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How about a NSD for valedictorians with full scholarship offers for academics hmm?

Samdari beat me to the punch on this one, exams & term papers & the like aren't really much as spectator sports. Kind of logical then that we don't turn the entry into them into a spectator event either.

I mean, the real answer is that no one other than the parents & an administrator would attend the signing/declaration ceremony. And you'd still get no media coverage since virtually no one would read or watch meaning there's no revenue to be generated by covering it. And afaik there's no national signing deadline for academic scholarships so there isn't really a unified focal point even if there was a demand for coverage.

But in simple terms, there isn't an NSD for them largely because nobody really gives a fuck outside the parents who don't have to spend money on 4+ years of college.
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Old 02-01-2010, 01:43 PM   #952
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How about a NSD for valedictorians with full scholarship offers for academics hmm?

Didn't Ben or another of the Georgia contingent have a post with the pic of the girl that got the schollie to Georgia and the pic of the guy that got the schollie to Georgia Tech? I tried searching, but couldn't find the post. It was very enlightening.
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Old 02-01-2010, 01:56 PM   #953
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FWIW, I got a fairly big local newspaper article when I got my academic scholarship to USC back in the day.

As far as the latest rumors, I'm hearing USC is still in the mix for Anderson and that he twittered that it is between WVU, Ohio State, and USC. He may wait to see what USC gets on signing day and then come out for a visit after NSD.

Bug, I'll be surprised if Riley doesn't end up a Bruin. The rumor is that USC has filled their slots at safety and Riley played his games for too long...
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Old 02-01-2010, 02:29 PM   #954
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I don't think USC is legitimately in it for Latwan Anderson. He had the opportunity to visit this past weekend and did not go.

This one will come down to whether or not his feelings were hurt enough by OSU failing to offer him until this late in the game. If his ego is big enough to be offended by not being option A for Ohio State, he will go to WVU, who has been after him and had him at the top of their board for over a year. I think he chooses WVU, but is getting a lot of pressure from family and his coaches (who are in OSU's pockets).
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Old 02-01-2010, 02:31 PM   #955
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But in simple terms, there isn't an NSD for them largely because nobody really gives a fuck outside the parents who don't have to spend money on 4+ years of college.

one could say the same about college football - at least if one wasn't living/wasn't raised in a "college football hotbed."
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Old 02-01-2010, 02:31 PM   #956
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FWIW, I got a fairly big local newspaper article when I got my academic scholarship to USC back in the day.

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Old 02-01-2010, 02:32 PM   #957
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I don't think USC is legitimately in it for Latwan Anderson. He had the opportunity to visit this past weekend and did not go.

This one will come down to whether or not his feelings were hurt enough by OSU failing to offer him until this late in the game. If his ego is big enough to be offended by not being option A for Ohio State, he will go to WVU, who has been after him and had him at the top of their board for over a year. I think he chooses WVU, but is getting a lot of pressure from family and his coaches (who are in OSU's pockets).

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Old 02-01-2010, 02:37 PM   #958
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one could say the same about college football - at least if one wasn't living/wasn't raised in a "college football hotbed."

Completely false. Media attention is much more amplified when a kid from a place that never produces D-I talent is committing to a major program.

Look at what happened with that kid who lied about his offers to Cal and Oregon, and that was BEFORE there was a national controversy.

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Old 02-01-2010, 02:47 PM   #959
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A USC guy posted on a Michigan forum saying multiple people are saying USC and UM are out for Parker. Sounds like UW's late push may have worked.
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Old 02-01-2010, 02:50 PM   #960
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DT Jeff Whitaker (Warner Robins, GA) commits to Auburn this afternoon. He's the #4 prospect in the state on the AJC Top 50.

I mention this because he did something I think was kind of cool, announcing today in order to avoid turning the NSD ceremony for their other commitments into a three-ring circus about him. If it's like usual, there'll be an assortment of players from the school heading to elsewhere, including some smaller programs.
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Old 02-01-2010, 03:14 PM   #961
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I don't think USC is legitimately in it for Latwan Anderson. He had the opportunity to visit this past weekend and did not go.

This one will come down to whether or not his feelings were hurt enough by OSU failing to offer him until this late in the game. If his ego is big enough to be offended by not being option A for Ohio State, he will go to WVU, who has been after him and had him at the top of their board for over a year. I think he chooses WVU, but is getting a lot of pressure from family and his coaches (who are in OSU's pockets).

Are you saying OSU bribes coaches? Just being clear here, as that sounded like quite the accusation
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Old 02-01-2010, 03:26 PM   #962
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Are you saying OSU bribes coaches? Just being clear here, as that sounded like quite the accusation

Their coach is Ted Ginn Sr. Now I am not saying he is dirty because he does a lot of work with other schools, but it's rare any elite talents from Glenville ever go anywhere but OSU.

Those kids OSU doesn't want? Sure they can go wherever.
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Old 02-01-2010, 03:33 PM   #963
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Their coach is Ted Ginn Sr. Now I am not saying he is dirty because he does a lot of work with other schools, but it's rare any elite talents from Glenville ever go anywhere but OSU.

Those kids OSU doesn't want? Sure they can go wherever.

Thats fair, and if I remember correctly he had a son go to OSU. I didnt know the details of the situation, just saw the comment and had to raise a note of question. Did Ginn Sr. go to OSU as well?
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Old 02-01-2010, 03:36 PM   #964
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A USC guy posted on a Michigan forum saying multiple people are saying USC and UM are out for Parker. Sounds like UW's late push may have worked.
Brandon Huffman of Scout.com has been suggesting that Washington has been very successful with their late push for Parker and are at least even with Michigan and USC, if not leading.

The Scout.com guys are also giving the Huskies a good shot at landing Ricky Heimuli.

Should be a very interesting Signing Day.
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Old 02-01-2010, 03:50 PM   #965
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Old 02-01-2010, 04:06 PM   #966
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Which Scout guys?
I'll have to scan the Dawgman.com board again to see - I know that Chris Fetters has a strong positive feeling on Heimuli, but given his association with Dawgman I'm sure outsiders would just mark that down as homerism. I can't recall if Huffman also shares Fetters' view.

It's definitely Huffman that is pushing the view that Washington is looking good for Parker...
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Old 02-01-2010, 04:23 PM   #967
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Are you saying OSU bribes coaches? Just being clear here, as that sounded like quite the accusation

Not at all. But, it is no secret that Ginn Sr. steers his players towards Ohio State. I believe Glenville has sent as many as 7 players to the Buckeyes in a single season.

Back to the original thread, the folks I trust are indicating that it has been suggested to Anderson that he not send in a LOI until Ohio State counts up the LOIs that it receives and that the Buckeyes expect to have an opening for him. I haven't seen him comment on anything yet.

Nickell Robey is reportedly down to USC and WVU (he had been considering USF, as well) and will decide tonight with family and his HS coach (who is a WVU guy). Really hoping to get him.
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Old 02-01-2010, 05:34 PM   #968
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Reports out there that USC lost punter Matt Darr to Fresno State. Rumors are that the staff never contacted him and didn't feel they wanted to use a scholarship on a punter in this class. Assuming that this is true, I feel like this is the first mistake by the new staff. Darr was killing the ball consistently during the all-star week and has a consistent history of hitting it 50 plus yards.
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Old 02-01-2010, 05:56 PM   #969
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4* OL Arie Koundijlo dropped Cal and has added New Mexico to his list.

I'll leave that speculation to everyone else.
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Old 02-01-2010, 06:01 PM   #970
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Also, Bama fans are hearing Keenan Allen may decide to go to Cal now. He had been rumored to possibly flipping to Clemson. Should be interesting to see that one play out.
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Old 02-01-2010, 06:02 PM   #971
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Old 02-01-2010, 06:20 PM   #972
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Old 02-01-2010, 07:15 PM   #973
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So I guess Parker and Shirley aren't top-100 in the Rivals rankings?

Heimuli to Utah certainly wouldn't be a surprise. I think the optimism the Dawgman guys have is that fact that Washington got his last visit and that he was high enough on them to keep them on his list without having visited until this weekend.

I guess we'll see on Wednesday.
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Old 02-01-2010, 07:37 PM   #974
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Despite that and what some boards are saying, Arkansas is in the mix for Shon Coleman.

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Old 02-01-2010, 07:47 PM   #975
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Shirley looks to be #137 and Parker doesnt have a ranking
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Old 02-01-2010, 07:52 PM   #976
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Really hoping the U can snap up some of these late deciders (especially Henderson). A #20 recruiting class ain't gonna cut it.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:05 PM   #977
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Also, Bama fans are hearing Keenan Allen may decide to go to Cal now. He had been rumored to possibly flipping to Clemson. Should be interesting to see that one play out.


This one is getting dirty...

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The name that will come up in the contact is none other than Athletic Director - Otis "my man" Yelverton. Now, you may ask how could the AD at a private military school have anything to do with the recruitment of Kennan Allen, Zack Maynard, Cousins, Gabe King and Chris McCain? Well, it would seem that OY was an assistant coach at Northern Guilford in the 08-09 season. That is where he befriended these kids and their families. He is now AD at Oakridge where none other than Stan Kowalewski is the basketball coach. SK is former Ivy League Basketball player that parlayed his education into a very profitable stay on Wall Street and took early retirement to Greensboro where bored with sitting at home decided to coach the Northern Guilford Boy's Basketball team. He won the State Title at Northern Guilford last year, but had the title stripped away very quickly. Seems SK did not think much of the "no recruitment" rules that apply to high school athletics and was caught moving parents into rental homes within the district so they could play for him at N Guilford. Problem was he got reported on very quickly and the Guilford County School Board was ask to investigate and turn the investigation over to the principal and the AD. Knowing he was getting investigated he offered to pay for both the principal and the AD and their wives to accompany his basketball team on a Christmas Trip to NY and OBTW he picked up the tab. It was also decided on this trip that he had not violated any rules. However, The Guilford school board did their own investigation and the principal, AD and coach were fired and the title was stripped. Then SK had the audacity to hold his own awards night where he paid for and presented each member of the team their State Championship Rings. Now I am not accusing SK of having anything to do with the KA situation. I only related this to show you the type of characters Otis Yelverton associates with and learns from.

Now back to Otis "my man" Yelverton. He is a recruiting pimp extraordinaire.He has had his hand out on every campus he has visited with recruits. In fact, NCSU, told him not to come back. Any wonder the KA/ZM trip to NCSU never materialized? If you go to his facebook site he is dressed head to toe in Cal Bear clothing.

I can promise you all these kids from Greensboro will not end up at Cal because they have a coach with connections and a history in Greensboro. No, the connection is none other than Otis "the pimp" Yelverton. It will be very interesting to see if he is not relocating to California next year as well. It is a known fact he is looking for a gig at a university in return for "services rendered".

Just thought you might want to know if these guys do not end up at Clemson, you know who was responsible. Of course, AL can say the same thing!

There are rumors of a Hummer limo taking them to the airport in g'boro last Friday and supposedly pictures etc.
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There are rumors of a Hummer limo taking them to the airport in g'boro last Friday and supposedly pictures etc.

Very interesting. Kinda surprised this would happen at Cal but in recruiting nothing is terribly shocking.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:54 PM   #980
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I don't think USC is legitimately in it for Latwan Anderson. He had the opportunity to visit this past weekend and did not go.

This one will come down to whether or not his feelings were hurt enough by OSU failing to offer him until this late in the game. If his ego is big enough to be offended by not being option A for Ohio State, he will go to WVU, who has been after him and had him at the top of their board for over a year. I think he chooses WVU, but is getting a lot of pressure from family and his coaches (who are in OSU's pockets).


From what I've heard it comes down to whether he does what he wants or what everyone close to him is telling him to do. He's still telling our staff he wants to be a mountaineer, but there's a lot of pressure from friends, family, and his coaches to pick OSU.
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Notre Dame picks up ATH Danny Spond (6'2, 240 4.69) QB Luke Massa, QB/ATH Derek Roback, TE/DE Bruce Heggie. Looking good on OT Matt James, S Jeremy Ioane and DE Kona Schwenke. Outside hope of LB Christian Jones or DE JR Ferguson. Seantrel Henderson, Dietrich Riley and Corey Cooper are the other 3 names still uncommitted, but nobody is giving ND any chance on them.

Brian Kelly definitely seems to go more for projection, with an eye to switching guys positions around later. Heggie (6'6, 240) reportedly did not have a D1 offer before ND. Sure it sounds good in theory, he's won elsewhere without 5*, and you can always point to specific examples of NFL stars who weren't highly recruited or drafted, but this table was posted elsewhere.

A 2-star player has a 0.5% chance of being a 1st round draft pick.
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:37 AM   #982
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Pullard seems to be leaning towards usc and zumwalt towards ucla
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Pullard seems to be leaning towards usc and zumwalt towards ucla

I've heard the same. I'm very happy about that, mainly because of the Black Mamba implications. Of course, I'd be even happier if USC got both of them.
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:56 AM   #985
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Rashad Knight becomes a Scarlet Knight, citing Schiano reminding him of his mom as a reason...hahaha.

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Did he promise to chop wood for his mom?
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For that talent, I hope he promised to lay the wood for his mom.
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I've heard the same. I'm very happy about that, mainly because of the Black Mamba implications. Of course, I'd be even happier if USC got both of them.

Zumwalt's the one to watch here. Supposedly, his decision factors into Pullard's decision. If Zumwalt goes to the Furd, Pullard will almost certainly be a Bruin. If Zumwalt goes to Westwood, Pullard seems to be a toss up, with a lean toward USC.

From what I have seen, Pullard wants to be a Bruin, but he also wants to play, and he thinks Zumwalt/Olaniyan/Barr and others is a lot of competition, whereas at USC he would be the unquestioned high profile recruit at the top of their list at that position, at least among HS recruits.
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Looks like the pullard domino is gonna falll
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It does appear that way. I don't like to lose a good player, and especially to USC. That said, there is a bittersweet sort of irony that it appears UCLA's going to lose this guy because he's "afraid to compete".

I really hope we nail down Zumwalt, though.
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6'6" 4* WR Brandon Coleman to RU. Great day for the program with him and Knight, hopefully being topped off with Jeremy Deering choosing us over Florida State tonight.
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It does appear that way. I don't like to lose a good player, and especially to USC. That said, there is a bittersweet sort of irony that it appears UCLA's going to lose this guy because he's "afraid to compete".

I really hope we nail down Zumwalt, though.

That's a nice spin, but it doesn't hold water if USC gets all of the linebackers that they are now rumored to have in the fold. Especially if they add Zumwalt to those they are already expecting.

By the way, is Tracy still on her rampage, threatening to ban people from BRO?
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A while back, a national recruiting expert said that Pullard was "All USC" when he was at the all star game before Pete left. Multiple people are now claiming that Pullard was a silent to USC the whole year and that "he and Black Mamba were determined to blaze their own path and break the Crenshaw pipeline."
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:05 PM   #994
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Keenan Allen called the Penn State staff yesterday to see if their scholarship offer was still on the table.

Interesting. Still a big long-shot, but that signing would probably put PSU back into the Rivals Top Ten, would it not?
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:10 PM   #995
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That's a nice spin, but it doesn't hold water if USC gets all of the linebackers that they are now rumored to have in the fold. Especially if they add Zumwalt to those they are already expecting.

By the way, is Tracy still on her rampage, threatening to ban people from BRO?

Ucla has taken/will take 8 lbers in this year and last years class (if zum comes and pullard doesn't). I think that was only a slight issue, but one that probably still plays a part.

Tracy was banning peope for stealing info. A lot of sites were taking his info and calling kids to find out if it was true. Grimble was called 22 times by USC writers in a 8 hour window and the pressure freom them, the usc recruits, and the coaches ended his visit. He doesn't want to do a disservice to the staff of UCLA
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:15 PM   #996
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Interesting. Still a big long-shot, but that signing would probably put PSU back into the Rivals Top Ten, would it not?

Right now they are #8 so if Allen commits I think they would stay in the top 10. But like you I think it is a long shot because I think he already "silently" committed to Cal.

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Old 02-02-2010, 01:20 PM   #997
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Kona Schwenke is strongly considering holding off on signing on Wednesday so he can take an official visit to Washington this weekend.

Greg Biggins is reporting that he hears Ricky Heimuli is a UCLA lean due to Norm Chow and his perception he can play right away there before heading out on his mission.

Biggins also confirms what others have said that Washington is coming on strong for Sean Parker, and that the Huskies are right there for Josh Shirley.

I'd love for the Huskies to land Heimuli, but given that he's going to take a mission and we already have Sione Potoae and Lawrence Lagafuaina committed, it's not a major blow if he chooses UCLA.
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:43 PM   #998
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It is my understanding (and this is not on any boards but here fwiw) after a phone conversation I just finished with that Keenan Allen nor Maynard now have a commitable offer to Clemson.

Apparently information has surfaced that has made CU coaches very nervous, and they have informed the family they are no longer able to offer.

I am also told that whatever information led to this decision has been forwarded to the ACC and NCAA clearinghouses.

I can not get what they found, but I have to wonder how bad it must bee for the staff to take this measure. I was also told that the coaches did not wait for the league to weigh in on the information before contacting the family.....

Bryce Brown times 5 anyone?
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:45 PM   #999
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Biggins thinks riley ends up at usc
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CU Tiger, does this have to do with the whole "package deal" info that is floating around?
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