2012 MLB Thread (Cabrera Gets Triple Crown, first since Yaz 1967)

[Scoobz0202]

Right now the Reds are the worst major league baseball* team in the National league.


*pirates are not a major league baseball team

[cartman]

It wasn't my mind playing tricks on me. One of my friends captured it and put it on YouTube. In the Rangers-Red Sox game, Bobby V came out to pull Morales. When he did, he tapped Morales' cup, took the ball, hit him in the butt with the ball when Morales walked back to the dugout, then sniffed the ball. WTF!!!??!

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Right now the Reds are the worst major league baseball* team in the National league.


*pirates are not a major league baseball team

Royals now 3-9, tied with the Cubs and Padres for awful

SI

[lungs]

Umps gift Brewers a game.

[Grover]

Apparently Reds "fans" were harassing Latos' wife on twitter tonight.

[Scoobz0202]

Originally Posted by Grover

Apparently Reds "fans" were harassing Latos' wife on twitter tonight.

Sooner these fools stop following the Reds the better.


Meanwhile, incredible game happening in San Fran.

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Sooner these fools stop following the Reds the better.


Meanwhile, incredible game happening in San Fran.

Yeah, first team to score wins. Right now, does not look likely at all.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by TroyF

OK, so I need some help here.

Watching the Rockies game. 2 outs, Nicasio pitching to Venable.

Nicasio gets him to an 0-2 count. On the next pitch, Venable hits a routine grounder to first. NIcasio runs over to cover and Helton waives him off "i got this" Helton, being the speed demon he is at 38 doesn't get to the bag in time.

The play is ruled a hit. Am I off base in saying this should be an error on Helton? How can you blame the pitcher who did everything he was supposed to do on the play? The runner is only on because Helton doesn't throw the ball.

A little confused.

I think for it to be an error, it has to be some physical mistake like bobbling the ball or throwing wide. I'm not sure I've seen them call an error on a mental mistake like that. Similarly, they don't call errors if the fielder misplays the ball and it goes over his head.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by cartman

It wasn't my mind playing tricks on me. One of my friends captured it and put it on YouTube. In the Rangers-Red Sox game, Bobby V came out to pull Morales. When he did, he tapped Morales' cup, took the ball, hit him in the butt with the ball when Morales walked back to the dugout, then sniffed the ball. WTF!!!??!

WTF? There's some skeletons in that closet?

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by cartman

It wasn't my mind playing tricks on me. One of my friends captured it and put it on YouTube. In the Rangers-Red Sox game, Bobby V came out to pull Morales. When he did, he tapped Morales' cup, took the ball, hit him in the butt with the ball when Morales walked back to the dugout, then sniffed the ball. WTF!!!??!

Oh man.. WTF is right!

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I think for it to be an error, it has to be some physical mistake like bobbling the ball or throwing wide. I'm not sure I've seen them call an error on a mental mistake like that. Similarly, they don't call errors if the fielder misplays the ball and it goes over his head.

I understand on balls where a fielder misplays it. Just seems brutal for a pitcher to get credited with a hit given up on something like that.

Watching MLB Tonight, evidently Bartolo Colon threw 38 consecutive strikes. Wow.

[stevew]

So glad the Pirates knocked out the majority of their West Coast play out already. 10:15 starts suck.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Yeah, first team to score wins. Right now, does not look likely at all.

What a game!

[EagleFan]

Crap...

[Shkspr]

Originally Posted by TroyF

The other Moyer stat I find fascinating: He's made over 86 million in his career. . . and he didn't have his first million dollar contract until he was 32 years old. He didn't earn 2 million until age 35.

On the other hand, NOBODY had their first million dollar contract until Moyer was 17 years old.

[larrymcg421]

In Jamie Moyer's first inning, he got Mike Schmidt to ground into a double play. The opposing pitcher was Steve Carlton.

[rowech]

Originally Posted by Grover

Apparently Reds "fans" were harassing Latos' wife on twitter tonight.

Probably the same ones who ran Carson Palmer's wife out of town taking Carson with her.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Watching MLB Tonight, evidently Bartolo Colon threw 38 consecutive strikes. Wow.

Even more impressive is that the Angels couldn't do crap when they knew he was throwing strikes (unless it was some bizarro strike zone)

SI

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

In Jamie Moyer's first inning, he got Mike Schmidt to ground into a double play. The opposing pitcher was Steve Carlton.

And the Cubs had only gone 77 years since winning a World Series

SI

[Easy Mac]

Assuming Moyer pitches in the last week of the season, my daughter will be at least 3 years, 17 days old.

My wife was 3 years, 69 days old when he pitched in his first major league game.

[Ksyrup]

I have really mixed feelings about the Phillies right now. On one hand, this is the team I've spent the past 30+ years rooting for. OTOH, I became a fan mainly because of Steve Carlton (to tie in the Jamie Moyer talk) and don't have any other connections to the team or city, and I've become increasingly annoyed by the way they've run the team over the past number of years. It's just about 180 degrees from everything I believe to be true about baseball. So in some ways, I'm taking a perverse pleasure in seeing them suck. I've started watching the Tigers (my hometown) and Rays (model franchise and fun team to watch) before I'll turn on a Phillies game.

In other words... I now know at least part of what it's like to be a Royals fan (minus the money to make mistakes). In fact, I think Joe Poz once wrote a blog about how bad it sucked to root for a team that was run in a completely opposite way to what you believe. That's where I am right now, mentally, with the Phillies. Enjoy Ryan Howard, Rueben Amaro. The worst part is he probably thinks the contract is OK, but you just can't predict injuries.

[lordscarlet]

I just need to post every now and then so that I can enjoy the National's success while I can. First team to 10 wins!

[PilotMan]

Yesterday was Vin Scully's anniversary of his first game with the Dodgers. He started in 62 years ago. Think about that. My mom wasn't even 2 years old yet, and he started doing PBP for the Dodgers. I wonder what percentage of all MLB players' names he has called?

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I have really mixed feelings about the Phillies right now. On one hand, this is the team I've spent the past 30+ years rooting for. OTOH, I became a fan mainly because of Steve Carlton (to tie in the Jamie Moyer talk) and don't have any other connections to the team or city, and I've become increasingly annoyed by the way they've run the team over the past number of years. It's just about 180 degrees from everything I believe to be true about baseball. So in some ways, I'm taking a perverse pleasure in seeing them suck. I've started watching the Tigers (my hometown) and Rays (model franchise and fun team to watch) before I'll turn on a Phillies game.

In other words... I now know at least part of what it's like to be a Royals fan (minus the money to make mistakes). In fact, I think Joe Poz once wrote a blog about how bad it sucked to root for a team that was run in a completely opposite way to what you believe. That's where I am right now, mentally, with the Phillies. Enjoy Ryan Howard, Rueben Amaro. The worst part is he probably thinks the contract is OK, but you just can't predict injuries.

I have struggled over the years with my allegiance to the Orioles. My love for the Orioles grew from the fact that my father was born and raised in Baltimore. He got me interested in baseball. You guys know how this works. Your dad says you're a fan of this team so you are. With the fact that they have sucked for so long, I can't stand what Angelos has done to the team and considering I haven't spoken to my father in more than 9 years, I don't really see any reason to keep rooting for them. Something just feels wrong about finding another team to root for though and I'm not sure who I would start rooting for at this point. I thought about becoming a Reds fan since they are the closest to Indy, but I'm not really that interested in them.

[kingfc22]

Was lucky enough to be at the Giants game last night. I've never been to a game where both pitchers brought their A++ game.

Cain is a stud and I'm very glad the Giants wrapped up his contract before the season.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

I just need to post every now and then so that I can enjoy the National's success while I can. First team to 10 wins!

Yep, they beat the Rangers by 15 minutes.

[DeToxRox]

Granderson has 3 HR on the night and it's only been four innings.

[cuervo72]

Just catching up on WAS/HOU, where Edwin Jackson had a rocky first (but has settled down some). Locally they've been saying for a while how much improved the Nats rotation has been, to the extent that John Lannan - who in some years might have been at the top of their rotation - has totally squeezed out.

Jackson has been cited as being a big part of this and they seem high on him, but I keep wondering - are they overestimating his ability? Or is he better than I think he is?

[PilotMan]

Jackson was once a rising star in the Dodgers organization. By now, he's been around the block a time or two, but he is finally settling in. I think he has the stuff to be a solid 3 pitcher, and his no-hitter shows that he can have good stuff. He's been a trade deadline mover, so other teams see him as a valuable stretch pitcher.

He is still just coming into his prime, and he could give any team 3-4 solid years at least.

[stevew]

He's with his 7th team since like 2004. I wonder if he's a real piece of work to deal with or something. I was hoping the Pirates could get him for 3 years, but he's doing the Boras one year establish value plan. I'm guessing a reall good season could be good for him.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by stevew

He's with his 7th team since like 2004. I wonder if he's a real piece of work to deal with or something. I was hoping the Pirates could get him for 3 years, but he's doing the Boras one year establish value plan. I'm guessing a reall good season could be good for him.

That's not really accurate. He has been traded 6 times, it's not like its only one and done deals. He was traded at the deadline back to back years, as well. His contract with the Nats is the biggest of his career at 11M/per. He's pitched 200 innings 3 season's in a row, he was an All Star in '09 in Detroit, threw a no-hitter in '10, and got a World Series ring last year. I'd take a flyer on him if he was in OOTP.

[Izulde]

To me Edwin Jackson is like those guys that get traded a ton in MP sim leagues who are good to really good, but not great players who have enough attractive about them that they become solid trade pieces for something that fits your team situation better.

[cartman]

Yu Darvish keeps improving. Tonight, against the Tigers, he gave up 1 run and 2 hits over 6 1/3 in a 10-3 Rangers win.

The Rangers as a whole have been pretty damn impressive to start the season. If not for two blown saves by Joe Nathan, they'd be 13-0. No sign of a World Series hangover thus far.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

That's not really accurate. He has been traded 6 times, it's not like its only one and done deals. He was traded at the deadline back to back years, as well. His contract with the Nats is the biggest of his career at 11M/per. He's pitched 200 innings 3 season's in a row, he was an All Star in '09 in Detroit, threw a no-hitter in '10, and got a World Series ring last year. I'd take a flyer on him if he was in OOTP.

I suppose I was vague. If you get traded 6 times, then it's gotta raise some sort of flag?

The one year establish value thing was referring to the current deal with the Nats. I think Pittsburgh offered about 3/30 but he didn't want it.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by cartman

Yu Darvish keeps improving. Tonight, against the Tigers, he gave up 1 run and 2 hits over 6 1/3 in a 10-3 Rangers win.

The Rangers as a whole have been pretty damn impressive to start the season. If not for two blown saves by Joe Nathan, they'd be 13-0. No sign of a World Series hangover thus far.

The look ridiculously impressive. And with Darvish looking like he may be everything Texas hoped he'd be and this team is super scary.

[Ksyrup]

121 pitches in just over 6 innings, 5 walks...I'm starting to think we're getting a clear picture of the effectiveness of Japanese pitchers in the MLB.

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

121 pitches in just over 6 innings, 5 walks...I'm starting to think we're getting a clear picture of the effectiveness of Japanese pitchers in the MLB.

That's my take as well. Nibble, nibble. Dice K clone.

Disclaimer: I haven't seen him pitch, but from looking at the stat lines, it's got that same feel.

[spleen1015]

Cool stuff going on at Fenway today. We may not ever see a ballpark celebrate a 100th anniversary.

[JPhillips]

Looking at the Reds' stats sure is depressing. Only three players are OPSing over .700.

[Grover]

"If you played at least one year in Boston, will pay for your own hotel and drive yourself to Fenway, you can walk on the field for this celebration!"

[ISiddiqui]

Fenway at 100: Love it, revere it, blow it up - CNN.com

*Runs*

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Cool stuff going on at Fenway today. We may not ever see a ballpark celebrate a 100th anniversary.

Well you know, aside from 4 years from now .

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Well you know, aside from 4 years from now .

Yeah, I didn't think about Wrigley.

[ISiddiqui]

Make that 2 years from now!

Though I don't hear as many horror stories about Wrigley - though I do know it is cramped as well.

[stevew]

What are you supposed to do when your 678 hitters are batting .067, .067 and .103? We're almost a 10th of the way through the season.

At least Alex Presley hit the easiest inside the park homer you'll see tonight. He didn't even have to slide.

[larrymcg421]

Braves with 42 runs in their last 4 games.

[cartman]

Rangers score 8 in the top of the 1st off of Porcello. They are playing a double header today, due to last night's rainout.

[Scoobz0202]

Oh god, that poor Mets centerfielder.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Oh god that's an awful way to lose a game. Way to crap on a gift by the centerfielder.

[AENeuman]

Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Oh god that's an awful way to lose a game. Way to crap on a gift by the centerfielder.

Huff is worthless. 2 big miss plays and weak ground out double play.