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View Poll Results: Who will take the White House?
Obama 151 68.95%
McCain 63 28.77%
Surprise? (Maybe Mr. Trout?) 5 2.28%
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:09 PM   #10151
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All of the news websites already have long articles written and posted. I would love to read the "McCain won" articles, just to see what they said.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:10 PM   #10152
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youporn.com just called it.

Appropriate, considering how screwed the nation is.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:11 PM   #10153
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I would guess that less than 20% of the electorate can say without looking what McCain's middle name is. (Sidney)

First time I had heard of McCain's middle name.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:11 PM   #10154
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All of the news websites already have long articles written and posted. I would love to read the "McCain won" articles, just to see what they said.

Those are with the Tampa Rays World Series Champs shirts in Senegal.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:11 PM   #10155
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eh, it's a huge moment for black americans, let them have their moment. you see plenty of white people celebrating too

Well, that's how he glad elected...so naturally it's a multiracial coalition of happy people. I was just noting how MSNBC has shown tons of footage of black students at historically black colleges and at black churches and lots of crowds of specifically all black or whatever...so I could imagine the horror in a hilariously cynical way.

I'm not enjoying what the commentators are saying, but I guess that's the only approach they can take...
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:12 PM   #10156
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Unlike football, there's only a finite number of "points" (electoral votes) available. Once you have locked up more than half of them, it's over. All that's left at that point is the final score.

But since it's all projections, couldn't the votes that are yet to be counted be so heavily McCain-ized that he would then win? See, I literally don't understand. Epic brain fail.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:12 PM   #10157
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Proving once & for all that P.T. Barnum was correct.

in which quote? should i even bother asking?
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:12 PM   #10158
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Appropriate, considering how screwed the nation is.

Relax, Chicken Little. If this country survived the "leadership" we had to suffer through for the last 8 years, we'll be fine, just fine...

Well done, America. Well done.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:12 PM   #10159
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Those are with the Tampa Rays World Series Champs shirts in Senegal.

They don't do that anymore. They just destroy the shirts now.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:12 PM   #10160
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Does anyone have voter turnout numbers yet?
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:12 PM   #10161
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All of the news websites already have long articles written and posted. I would love to read the "McCain won" articles, just to see what they said.

"Rioters take control of all major cities as civil unrest spreads faster than the National Guard can handle"?
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:13 PM   #10162
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Well, that's how he glad elected...so naturally it's a multiracial coalition of happy people. I was just noting how MSNBC has shown tons of footage of black students at historically black colleges and at black churches and lots of crowds of specifically all black or whatever...so I could imagine the horror in a hilariously cynical way.

I'm not enjoying what the commentators are saying, but I guess that's the only approach they can take...

exactly. They are making it very much about a black achievment thing. And don't get me wrng, It is a huge accomplishment and I think Obama will serve us well.

But it really seems to me like and old vs. young thing.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:14 PM   #10163
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"Rioters take control of all major cities as civil unrest spreads faster than the National Guard can handle"?

Really? Fuck, I wanted McCain to win then!
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:14 PM   #10164
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I'll be watching the mailbox for my "black president" check to show up... unless I don't get one because I didn't vote. Then I'm just gonna be pissed.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:14 PM   #10165
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:14 PM   #10166
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in which quote? should i even bother asking?

my guess would be " a sucker is born every minute"
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:15 PM   #10167
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they are going wild in the streets of Seattle right now
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:15 PM   #10168
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I'll be watching the mailbox for my "black president" check to show up... unless I don't get one because I didn't vote. Then I'm just gonna be pissed.

I think Danny Glover has your check.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:16 PM   #10169
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Oh, Carl Rove just said the Cosby family was a "black" America's First Family, so this isn't a first. Yeah, same thing.....
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:16 PM   #10170
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I think Danny Glover has your check.
I feel the need to make another video for YouTube.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:17 PM   #10171
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I think Danny Glover has your check.

nope.

Kevin Weeks does, and the fucker better earn it.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:17 PM   #10172
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:17 PM   #10173
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CNN had stats earlier showing that age was a bigger factor than race - just FYI.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:17 PM   #10174
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We surpassed that long ago, as has every industrialized country I can think of.
I meant to say receiving more in government programs than they pay in taxes.
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The Senate likely won't change greatly in 2010 as the 04 elections left a pretty Dem favorable map in 2010. But things will eventually swing back, likely in 2012 and 2014 when the Dems have to defend their recent gains.
Senate, no, but the House will shift 25-30 seats minimum, unless the fight for control of the Republican Party between Fiscal and Social Conservatives is still ongoing and they're tearing each other apart.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:18 PM   #10175
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You'd have enjoyed the young Rep from Wisconsin, Ryan, on FXNC a little while ago I imagine.

I liked the fact that he at least seemed to have some spirit about him & talked about the need to start standing for things again. Even if the stands he chooses aren't the ones I'd prefer, at least he seemed like an (R) that still had a pair. And that was a damned nice change of pace to see/hear.

He might be one to watch. The fact that he is a (R) in a district that contains Janesville (GM plant that is closing) Racine and Kenosha (pretty much Milwaukee) is telling.

I wonder if he'll someday look to succeed Jim Doyle as Governor or maybe waiting for Herb Kohl to retire from the Senate. Feingold is unbeatable in Wisconsin so he'd be crazy to run against him.

He would even possibly be an (R) I could get behind, so that tells me he's probably not your kind of (R), Jon.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:18 PM   #10176
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Yeah, this is a nice moment for the country. I think Obama is a good person and will try to be a good leader. I hope he succeeds.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:18 PM   #10177
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how amazing must it be for the older generation of black people to see this.

Despite what side you fall on, we are witnessing a form of history tonight that comes along once in a lifetime.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:18 PM   #10178
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nope.

Kevin Weeks does, and the fucker better earn it.
Times are changing. Two black players in New Jersey and now a black president-elect. I can already see the Jamaican bobsled team winning the gold in 2010.

Yep, this check had better show up soon.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:18 PM   #10179
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:19 PM   #10180
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You stay classy, McCain camp boo'ers

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Old 11-04-2008, 10:19 PM   #10181
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Florida's Gay Marriage ban amendment: 75% reporting, 62% "Yes" (needs 60% to pass)
Arizona Gay marriage ban amendment: 58% reporting, 56% "Yes" (don't know what it needs to pass).

California is just 2% reporting, but 56% "yes".

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Old 11-04-2008, 10:20 PM   #10182
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Wow, McCain seems quick with the concession speech
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:20 PM   #10183
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And for the first time I can recall in television history, they didn't announce the president elect's full name when he went over the top.

My guess is that your memory is pretty selective.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:20 PM   #10184
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Is McCain going to cry?

I have all the respect in the world for John McCain.

I am however glad Sarah Palin will not be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:21 PM   #10185
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they're booing Obama during mccain's concession. You stay classy republicans.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:21 PM   #10186
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That said, McCain, extremely classy

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Old 11-04-2008, 10:21 PM   #10187
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OK. This has bothered me the ENTIRE election. Maybe I am remembering wrong, but I don't recall any election, and I haven't seen anything on the Obama side during this election, where there is so much booing from the crowd. McCain is doing his concession speech, and says "I just had the pleasure of speaking to Barack Obama a few moments ago" and people start boing. What the hell is wrong with these people?

On another note, for those that don't know, I live in downtown Washington, DC. There are tons of cars driving by with a cheerful honking. There's also a lot of local footage of people cheering in the streets (only 6 or so blocks from me, but I have already settled in for the night. )
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:22 PM   #10188
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Damn good speech by McCain. It shows the part of him that I like.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:22 PM   #10189
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What's is the popular vote right now?
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:22 PM   #10190
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classy speech by McCain here I gotta say. kudos
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:22 PM   #10191
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I kinda wish McCain would've come out with a "F*%k that guy! You voters are morons!" speech
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:22 PM   #10192
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:22 PM   #10193
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I don't agree with McCain politically, but I certainly respect him.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:23 PM   #10194
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They're chanting "Mumble John?"
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:23 PM   #10195
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:23 PM   #10196
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What's is the popular vote right now?

41.8 - 39.2 (million)

51% - 48%
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:23 PM   #10197
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That said, McCain, extremely classy

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Old 11-04-2008, 10:24 PM   #10198
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exactly. They are making it very much about a black achievment thing. And don't get me wrng, It is a huge accomplishment and I think Obama will serve us well.

But it really seems to me like and old vs. young thing.

Young versus old and frankly, a very well run campaign versus one that wasn't done quite as well and against a candidate who had a very, very hard task ahead of him. Sad to see McCain have to go out like this, honestly...but at the same time, this is an Obama victory borne out of sheer will and tactical organization.

I'd hate for this thing to turn into something more than just a "OMGZ! Black folks win," because if were only about that...this would've happened a lot sooner.

He seems calmer right now, McCain in this speech. I think he expected that this thing would go a little longer into the night.

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McCain's mom is alive?! Wow.
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