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Old 02-18-2013, 03:16 PM   #1051
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I would find that very encouraging. Especially since you got more than a courtesy " me too". You should shoot her back a text that says something like " have fun on vaca, can't wait to see the new shoes when you get back"
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:39 PM   #1052
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I would find that very encouraging. Especially since you got more than a courtesy " me too". You should shoot her back a text that says something like " have fun on vaca, can't wait to see the new shoes when you get back"

Well played sir.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:10 PM   #1053
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Real men don't talk about shoes, send the same message but say bikini wax instead of shoes
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:12 PM   #1054
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Though in seriousness I would actually type out vacation unless you are in college or something. I find women usually like it when a man talks like they are educated and not like a college frat guy
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:14 PM   #1055
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Though in seriousness I would actually type out vacation unless you are in college or something. I find women usually like it when a man talks like they are educated and not like a college frat guy

Well of course.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:16 PM   #1056
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Though in seriousness I would actually type out vacation unless you are in college or something. I find women usually like it when a man talks like they are educated and not like a college frat guy

Meh. IMO using shorthand in a text is perfectly fine. Ymmv.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:20 PM   #1057
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Meh. IMO using shorthand in a text is perfectly fine. Ymmv.

It's fine, but I think being thoughtful enough to not text like that helps set you apart a little bit.

It's also a pet peeve of mine so any of you who are trying to woo me, remember to use full words
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:43 PM   #1058
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It's fine, but I think being thoughtful enough to not text like that helps set you apart a little bit.

It's also a pet peeve of mine so any of you who are trying to woo me, remember to use full words

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Old 02-18-2013, 07:20 PM   #1059
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It's fine, but I think being thoughtful enough to not text like that helps set you apart a little bit.

It's also a pet peeve of mine so any of you who are trying to woo me, remember to use full words

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Old 02-18-2013, 08:01 PM   #1060
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I would find that very encouraging. Especially since you got more than a courtesy " me too". You should shoot her back a text that says something like " have fun on vaca, can't wait to see the new shoes when you get back"

Smooth...just smooth.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:13 PM   #1061
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you could always tell her to have fun on holiday.

it's that british thing. chicks dig a british text accent.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:36 PM   #1062
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Well I shot her that last night (bout 3-4 hours after getting home) - she got back to me at lunchtime (which is also normal I suppose), to respond "Hi! It was nice getting to know you better as well. I did have success (a little too much)! Hope you do not work too hard today!"

Success = shoe shopping after our date (she had just broken her foot and was headed off on vacation this coming friday).

So I guess we won't be able to do anything until she gets back, but presumably since she got back to me at all it didn't go horribly. So that's encouraging.

I'd say that's progress. That's about when I heard from my girlfriend after our first date. Then Sandy came along.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:33 AM   #1063
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3 exclamation points in a cellophane politeness text. Weird.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:30 AM   #1064
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I'd say that's progress. That's about when I heard from my girlfriend after our first date. Then Sandy came along.

Hey bro we just a invite to the wedding! Glad stuffs still going well for you!
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:39 AM   #1065
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Hey bro we just a invite to the wedding! Glad stuffs still going well for you!

Danke. Been four months, and we've won each other over, it would appear. So, that's progress.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:20 PM   #1066
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I just heard that men supposedly have commitment issues.

This is untrue. I have no commitment issues.

No commitments, no issues.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:31 PM   #1067
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it's that british thing. chicks dig a british text accent.

Sounds like a great app concept.
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Old 05-10-2013, 03:55 PM   #1068
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General question, do you guys list your incomes? Is it tacky when a female does it?
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:03 PM   #1069
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General question, do you guys list your incomes? Is it tacky when a female does it?

There is zero reason to do this unless you're trying to compensate for some flaw or some such. But no, there's nothing tacky about a woman doing it. I mean, if she makes a lot and she's online clearly not having any luck. And if she doesn't make a lot and is posting it, she doesn't care.

But again, absolutely no reason to do this unless you want to impress a particular kind of woman and even then, seems like if you make enough, there'd be other options with a higher degree of success.
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:06 PM   #1070
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Right now I don't even have pics up... I'm just a browser.
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:20 PM   #1071
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General question, do you guys list your incomes? Is it tacky when a female does it?

I don't think either party should. I honestly wouldn't even look at that line on somebody's profile...although I would look to see what their job is (just because that's usually something you can work into a conversation).
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:57 PM   #1072
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There is zero reason to do this unless you're trying to compensate for some flaw or some such. But no, there's nothing tacky about a woman doing it. I mean, if she makes a lot and she's online clearly not having any luck. And if she doesn't make a lot and is posting it, she doesn't care.

Martha should do it for kicks.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:48 PM   #1073
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Martha should do it for kicks.

Well, Match only allows you to select the $150,000+ level as the highest bracket. I remember reading she had her date "preference" at $150,000+.

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Old 06-10-2013, 02:05 AM   #1074
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I know this article is two years old, but I had to laugh at it:

Why Do Smart Men Date Less Intelligent Women? - Uri Friedman - The Atlantic Wire

"CNBC's Nicole Lapin doesn't think Carney's onto anything. Smart women have the same incentives as less intelligent women to date smart men, she contends: "First, if there is indeed more competition for [smart men] ... we all know that we 'Type A' working women love a good fight. Second, smart women don't shut their brains off on the weekend. (Shocker: Smart men don't either.)." To prove her case, Lapin recalls being turned off by a guy on a recent date because he didn't get an allusion to Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart's "I know it when I see it" ruling on pornography in Jacobellis v. Ohio (1964). I mean, c'mon! How do you expect to win the girl without a firm understanding of legal precedent?"

To the linked article (Counterpoint: Smart Chicks Date Smart Guys ) within the original linked article:

"I'll give you a personal example to back that up. I went on a fantastic, fun first date recently. After dinner, we started talking about what he looked for in a woman. And he said, "I know it when I see it." And I said, "like obscenity?" And then there were the crickets. "Huh?" he said. And, that, my smart NetNet friends, is when the date was over for me."

Dear lord...is this the standard men have to deal with these days?
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:05 AM   #1075
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So the first time you meet someone from an online dating site - does that count as a "first date?" Or is that more a "first encounter to verify you are who you say you are" and the second time is a first date?

Does the length of the first time you meet matter? Like 30min-1hr would be an encounter and 2hrs+ would be a date?

Have another dinner with the girl I had tapas with for 3hrs on Thursday tonight. There was no physicality on Thursday and although I have zero skills even I know that there needs to be at least some level of physical contact tonight (guiding her to the table, a hug when I see her, potentially a kiss after dinner?), but trying to get a handle on what would be right (and yes, obviously I'm going to keep my clueless eyes open for signals and not do anything that doesn't feel "right", but just trying to get a sense of what...ballpark.

Be nice - remember I'm a dating-noob.

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Old 08-12-2013, 09:03 AM   #1076
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So the first time you meet someone from an online dating site - does that count as a "first date?" Or is that more a "first encounter to verify you are who you say you are" and the second time is a first date?

Does the length of the first time you meet matter? Like 30min-1hr would be an encounter and 2hrs+ would be a date?

Have another dinner with the girl I had tapas with for 3hrs on Thursday tonight. There was no physicality on Thursday and although I have zero skills even I know that there needs to be at least some level of physical contact tonight (guiding her to the table, a hug when I see her, potentially a kiss after dinner?), but trying to get a handle on what would be right (and yes, obviously I'm going to keep my clueless eyes open for signals and not do anything that doesn't feel "right", but just trying to get a sense of what...ballpark.

Be nice - remember I'm a dating-noob.

Just do what feels natural.If you start looking for signs and over analyzing everything it will make you crazy. Maybe pull her chair out and put your hand on her back and guide her into the chair, or a walk after dinner and hold her hand.

The other tactic you can take is right at the beginning of the date just tell her you are going to be thinking about it all night so instead you are going to kiss her now.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:24 AM   #1077
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:08 AM   #1078
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Just do what feels natural.If you start looking for signs and over analyzing everything it will make you crazy. Maybe pull her chair out and put your hand on her back and guide her into the chair, or a walk after dinner and hold her hand.

The other tactic you can take is right at the beginning of the date just tell her you are going to be thinking about it all night so instead you are going to kiss her now.

Yes - I shall attempt not to be crazy over-thinking (which if you knew me you'd realize is an insane thing to say). Chair thing very classy yes.
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:10 AM   #1079
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:18 AM   #1080
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Casually let a condom fall out of your wallet when you go to pay for dinner. Then she'll know you mean business!

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Old 08-12-2013, 11:19 AM   #1081
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So the first time you meet someone from an online dating site - does that count as a "first date?" Or is that more a "first encounter to verify you are who you say you are" and the second time is a first date?

Does the length of the first time you meet matter? Like 30min-1hr would be an encounter and 2hrs+ would be a date?

Have another dinner with the girl I had tapas with for 3hrs on Thursday tonight. There was no physicality on Thursday and although I have zero skills even I know that there needs to be at least some level of physical contact tonight (guiding her to the table, a hug when I see her, potentially a kiss after dinner?), but trying to get a handle on what would be right (and yes, obviously I'm going to keep my clueless eyes open for signals and not do anything that doesn't feel "right", but just trying to get a sense of what...ballpark.

Be nice - remember I'm a dating-noob.

You should go for a kiss at some point.
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:33 PM   #1082
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:01 PM   #1083
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:37 PM   #1084
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Yes, be yourself, but be your best possible self. Let the crazy come out later.

Oh I fully intend to be myself. Like I said...I just have zero skills (beyond whatever is innate in me) so looking to shoot the shit and maybe help my thoughts out some little bit. Because having zero skills is a dent in my self-confidence ya know? Although my self-confidence is at an all-time high due to life in general these days, so that does counteract the dent to some degree.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:32 PM   #1085
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Just had my one yr anniversary with my wife that I met on eHarmony. Our first "date" went like this.

1) She drove to my town (60 mi away) and we met at Starbucks.
2) We had gotten to know each other over the phone so I tried to think of a little something to bring that wouldn't be too much but that she would appreciate. She's a big Blackhawks fan so I brought her a B-Hawks scarf (it was early January). It wasn't over the top and if things didn't work out, I wasn't out much.
3) We went to dinner at a little pub/grill. Ate and chatted.
4) Shot some pool.
5) Went back to Starbucks for a little while.

In this case, the "date" lasted about 7 hrs. lol

Outside of the scarf, the main thing I tried to do was focus on her. She mentioned on the phone that she did some scrapbooking...I told her I'd like to see a book. She brought one and we looked through it.

I'm quite a bit older than you so I imagine the details would be different but show interest in what she likes and pay attention to her. I think a hug is a good end of date thing no matter what (unless things went horribly wrong). A kiss on the cheek is good if things seemed to go well. And the, "I really had a good time...would like to see you again," is also good if things went well.

One other thing...if you don't have a lot of confidence...look at it as practice. If one date doesn't work out, it's not a failure. You got some experience and that will help you down the road.

Having said all that...if she wants to hop right in the sack and you're good with that....go for it!!! :-) Good luck man!
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:33 PM   #1086
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As you open the door for her to the restaurant and she passes by, the guiding hand in the small of the back for a second or two works.

Just don't give her a "Good Game" slap on the butt.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:45 PM   #1087
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I love the idea that think of this date as practice for the next with or without her. That way there's no pressure, you're just practicing. For me, when I was dating, a long long time ago. I ruled out a kiss period that way the pressure was completely off... Then when a kiss actually happened it was cuz, well it just happened. Then again, I met my wife while she was dating some guy and while playing pool apparently I said that she would someday have my children. When she looked at me I said, "what? you're tall and I want to have a basketball team." I dont recall saying any of that but apparently I did and now we're about to have our second kid...
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:48 PM   #1088
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did you fuck her?
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:41 AM   #1089
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LOL no lathum.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:48 AM   #1090
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Yeah - no it went well. Good 2 hours of dinner, closed the place down basically.

I started the night off by going for a little hug, which was like a half-to-3/4 hug that caught her a bit by surprise. She ended it by initiating a full hug, so that's progression.

Still had good flowing convo and everything, so that was good. She sneakily picked up the check when I was in the bathroom (I picked up the last one).

Crashed when I got home, but shot her a text this morning thanking her and leaving things sort of...open-ended. I want to see if she comes back to me about a next step at all (not a plan, but dates or something). I think she will. That will give me some sort of like...indication of how well I'm able to read these sorts of things.

Want to give myself some time to process because I'm a bit concerned about overreacting to the first tug on the line (to use a fishing metaphor) and reeling in my other lines. I think it would feel like...settling.

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Old 08-13-2013, 11:02 AM   #1091
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Your over thinking it. If you like her and want to go out again just ask her. You don't need a sign or signal for everything. If she likes you, and it seems she does she will say yes.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:17 AM   #1092
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:19 AM   #1093
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Your over thinking it. If you like her and want to go out again just ask her. You don't need a sign or signal for everything. If she likes you, and it seems she does she will say yes.

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Old 08-13-2013, 11:27 AM   #1094
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How exactly did you leave it open ended? The way I would do it, I would just ask her out again. I wouldn't text either; I would call (but you kids and your ways... ).

Although since you reached out already, I am not sure if asking her out now before she responds is a good idea. She should hit you back sometime today and I guess you will see.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:29 AM   #1095
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But, really, it doesn't matter. Don't do any stressing (not that you are). Just leave it alone, and if it works out, great. If not, move on to the next. My last date didn't work out. I shrugged after it happened. Move on to the next.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:39 AM   #1096
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Speaking of the last date I had, funny thing happened. I feel like I shared this somewhere on FOFC already, but just in case I haven't...

I went to El Torito with my date, and she recently moved to LA from France (Latvian by birth, raised in France, moved to LA last year). So we get our chips and salsa, and then she decides she wants the tableside guac for an app.

So the waitress makes the guac and brings a second bowl for me (date was abit iffy about sharing the same guac) and then leaves.

My date looks after her in consternation and wonders why she didn't bring us silverware. While we certainly do need the silverware at some point, I pointed out that we have the chips for the guac. To which she said, she does not want any more chips.

So I call over the waitress and ask for silverware, which she brings.

And then I watch as my date unrolls her silverware and proceeds to eat her tableside quac straight out of the bowl with a knife and fork!

So what do I do?

The gentlemanly thing, of course--I did the same thing.
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:32 PM   #1097
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How exactly did you leave it open ended? The way I would do it, I would just ask her out again. I wouldn't text either; I would call (but you kids and your ways... ).

Although since you reached out already, I am not sure if asking her out now before she responds is a good idea. She should hit you back sometime today and I guess you will see.

My phone's all the way across my office, but I think it was along the lines of "look forward to seeing you again soon."
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:34 PM   #1098
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Your over thinking it. If you like her and want to go out again just ask her. You don't need a sign or signal for everything. If she likes you, and it seems she does she will say yes.

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Wanted to think about it before advancing.

Think about what?
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:55 PM   #1100
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My phone's all the way across my office, but I think it was along the lines of "look forward to seeing you again soon."

That doesn't really encourage her to respond to you, IMO. But the good news is that it kinda comes off as a promise that you will be in touch.

I would wait a day (assuming you want to), then call her up and ask her out for sometime this weekend.
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