LXXVIII: Politicus Lupus (GAME OVER!! SEE POST #2593 FOR RESULTS)

[path12]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I'm not trying to play a partisan game here, but since frankly the tone of you Dems up to this point aggrivated me to the point of barely caring about the game yesterday, this deserves pointing out.

It's funny because I've seriously felt the exact same way about your side. Just like real politics!

[KWhit]

Hey - you repubs:

Was there anything in your writeup this morning on popularity or power to suggest who we have been sending slurries to?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by path12

It's funny because I've seriously felt the exact same way about your side. Just like real politics!

Let's just all have a giant battle royale on the floor of Congress and be done with it. I have plenty of guns for everyone!

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Hey - you repubs:

Was there anything in your writeup this morning on popularity or power to suggest who we have been sending slurries to?

Yes.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by path12

It's funny because I've seriously felt the exact same way about your side. Just like real politics!

Really Path? Just to lay it out there, I essentially felt like a red-headed step-child from your party on Day One (not really you though). Just completely condescended to. I don't think our party has taken that same tact, but hey I could have blinders on.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Yes.

Thank you. That answer gives me all that I need to know.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Yes.

Would you mind sharing that with the thread? I have a congressman in my party that seems to think I'm lying about who I slurried.

[path12]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Well..... I've shared a good bit already, so I'd prefer it if someone else from the dem party took a look at the way the votes played out on our side and answer that if they want.

I think you've been accurate. There was no concerted effort that I saw (I was really in and out yesterday) -- clap voted for our party leader and so got my vote in return. I don't even think I checked in our party thread before making my vote.

[Tyrith]

Heinz and illinfan.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Heinz and illinfan.

Thank you.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Hey - you repubs:

Was there anything in your writeup this morning on popularity or power to suggest who we have been sending slurries to?

Yep, sure do. And thanks by the way. Way to do a real solid for the person who crossed party lines and handed you guys the Speaker position. Really motivates me to do that again today.

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Heinz and illinfan.

Could some other GOP members verify this for us? Preferably more than one other GOP member?

[jeheinz72]

I'll verify it.

Again, thanks for that.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

Could some other GOP members verify this for us? Preferably more than one other GOP member?

Yes.

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Yep, sure do. And thanks by the way. Way to do a real solid for the person who crossed party lines and handed you guys the Speaker position. Really motivates me to do that again today.

I don't think we harbor any realistic expectations of retaining the Speakership -- especially since we are in the minority. I think the only way we would expect a crossover vote is if there were grounds for you to conclude that your candidate were a wolf. I am making no allegation of this whatsoever. The only complaint I have about PB is that he doesn't appear much in the main thread.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

The only complaint I have about PB is that he doesn't appear much in the main thread.

Well, the problem with that is the only people on our side of the aisle that really have been in here much are me, Pass, and heinz, and none of us want it :P

[path12]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Really Path? Just to lay it out there, I essentially felt like a red-headed step-child from your party on Day One (not really you though). Just completely condescended to. I don't think our party has taken that same tact, but hey I could have blinders on.

Yeah, really. I think you got extra pressure because of being the most centrist but I got nothing but an obstructionist/condescending vibe from your side day 1 which certainly factored in my reaction to clap's vote for KWhit. It'll be interesting to read this back after the game......

I'm more than willing to think that I might have blinders on also......

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

I don't think we harbor any realistic expectations of retaining the Speakership -- especially since we are in the minority. I think the only way we would expect a crossover vote is if there were grounds for you to conclude that your candidate were a wolf. I am making no allegation of this whatsoever. The only complaint I have about PB is that he doesn't appear much in the main thread.

Great, even better. So you're saying you used me and then slurried me after I helped you guys out. Man, you guys are just friggin AWESOME.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Well, the problem with that is the only people on our side of the aisle that really have been in here much are me, Pass, and heinz, and none of us want it :P

To clarify, I'd take it, but it'd be a bad idea. Since well, no bills would get signed since I'm not on.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Well, the problem with that is the only people on our side of the aisle that really have been in here much are me, Pass, and heinz, and none of us want it :P

The other thing is that heinz and I won't be around at night. We made sure to get someone who will be around during the night phase.

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

I agree that CR/Olie would need to clarify whether a wolf vote on the Prez would be trouble if he turns out to be a swell guy (despite being a Republican).

Yes, votes on the President also count politically, with the impact determimed by whether or not he’s a Wolf. So there’s risk in that vote. That said, it only counts when the President is out of the game—and it’s hard to remove a President from the game. You only get dinged on a bad Wolf vote if it’s publically known that that person is good, and the only way to know that for sure is by him dying/leaving the game. So it’s a risk, but not necessarily one people will feel the impact of for a while, if ever.

Copied directly from CR's email

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by path12

Yeah, really. I think you got extra pressure because of being the most centrist but I got nothing but an obstructionist/condescending vibe from your side day 1 which certainly factored in my reaction to clap's vote for KWhit. It'll be interesting to read this back after the game......

I'm more than willing to think that I might have blinders on also......

Interesting yeah. I'll definitely want to look that over post-game. Part of me wonders in-game though if these vibes you and I are getting of obstruction and what-not are of the wolf variety, youknowwhati"msayin

[EagleFan]

I actually forgot about PB for much of this game so far. Unfortunately the double thread thing seems to be keeping him mostly out of this thread. He is not pinging my wolf radar but it could be because he just isn't posting here.

vote PB wolf

Making that vote just to get a candidate out there and to see what shakes up. It could and probably will change as I have a couple other suspects who are far above him on my suspect list.

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Great, even better. So you're saying you used me and then slurried me after I helped you guys out. Man, you guys are just friggin AWESOME.

We eanted to add an element of political realism to the game

[KWhit]

I'd like to introduce Chesapeake as the new Democratic Liason to the Republican Party.

We know he will do a great job.

[Passacaglia]

So why was there doubt as to who you guys slurried, anyway?

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So why was there doubt as to who you guys slurried, anyway?

Everyone wants to know who the wolves are in the caucus. We needed to tie up some loose ends so that everyone could be comfortable (within reason) with our leadership structure.

[KWhit]

Hell if I know.

[jeheinz72]

Strange vote EF.

For one, do you think the rest of us repubs would think it to be a good idea to nominate for Speaker someone who we even slightly thought was a wolf?

I mean hell, I'd log on from home at midnight to be Speaker before I did that.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Strange vote EF.

For one, do you think the rest of us repubs would think it to be a good idea to nominate for Speaker someone who we even slightly thought was a wolf?

I mean hell, I'd log on from home at midnight to be Speaker before I did that.

Trying to get some wolf conversation going. We seem to be focussing too much on the political and getting roles and not enough on who may be a wolf.

[EagleFan]

dola: The wolves would want us to only speak politics as it keeps the heat off them. We need to think about protecting ourselves as a whole and not just our own political agendas.

[KWhit]

But why PurdueBrad?

[chesapeake]

The Democratic Party was taught a painful -- but valuable -- lesson in the elections last season. We discovered that we must return to the core ideals that made us democrats if we are to regain electoral relevancy.

One man in our party stood tall last season -- stood up for Americans everywhere -- and fought hard in the campaign so that good people can have good jobs at good wages. It is my pleasure to submit for consideration to this chamber that man to be the Speaker.

VOTE PACKERFAN FOR SPEAKER

[jeheinz72]

I get that EF, but it's just illogical. I mean yeah, PB could be a wolf, though from my POV he's done nothing here or in the Rep thread to make me think so yet.

I just don't see why you'd pick someone who has essentially been given the statement by a group of people who would be at least mostly comprised of villagers as good.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So why was there doubt as to who you guys slurried, anyway?

We did not know if it would show up in the party threads only or within the main thread in the write ups.

CR, our write up seems like a name was missing. It says both... but then has just one name.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by KWhit

But why PurdueBrad?

I've rarely seen him this quiet, or seems quiet to me.

Just tyring to get some dialogue going.

[mccollins]

VOTE PACKERFAN FOR SPEAKER

[jeheinz72]

Yeah, I can't see where wolf-wise PF being speaker is a good idea. I was even thinking about doing the Dems a solid again until you unveiled him as the plan.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Yeah, I can't see where wolf-wise PF being speaker is a good idea. I was even thinking about doing the Dems a solid again until you unveiled him as the plan.

I don't follow. Come again?

[chesapeake]

Pass may not be on much for the rest of the day. The GOP may get a new liaison.

[mccollins]

He's our most centrist candidate since Henry and Chubby lost our elections and he's one of our most popular members.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I don't follow. Come again?

Had you picked a different candidate, I might've come across the aisle for a Dem speaker.

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Yeah, I can't see where wolf-wise PF being speaker is a good idea. I was even thinking about doing the Dems a solid again until you unveiled him as the plan.

I know you are banging the "PF is a wolf" drum. There jsut doesn't seem to be anything to your argument.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by mccollins

He's our most centrist candidate since Henry and Chubby lost our elections and he's one of our most popular members.

I'm having a hard time coming to grips with the similar predicament that I was talking about in EF's vote for PB.

I personally think PF rates pretty high on my Dem-Wolf Radar. Though I'm conflicted with that you folks would actually put him up for speaker.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

I know you are banging the "PF is a wolf" drum. There jsut doesn't seem to be anything to your argument.

I know, and that's what I am wrestling with. I was prepared again today to be bi-partisan. Even against the wishes of my party. But I don't get a good vibe on PF, but that is conflicted by your actual putting forth of him as your speaker candidate.

Not sure how I'll decide.

[Passacaglia]

VOTE WOLF MRS. SCHMIDTY

No particular read, but under the radar, and I have to get going.

[KWhit]

I had postd in the dem thread earlier that that's where my vote was going. Now that I see that a member of her own party is voting that way, I'm certainly on board. That's who I originally voted for yesterday, and I do suspect her a bit.

Vote Wolf Mrs. Schmidty

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

We did not know if it would show up in the party threads only or within the main thread in the write ups.

CR, our write up seems like a name was missing. It says both... but then has just one name.

EF, please PM CR and myself about this...that way it will be sure to be addressed when CR gets back home tonight. Thanks...

[chesapeake]

Since there is currently no Speaker, is there any way the village can get a Speaker's bill today? If one candidate gets to the seven vote majority, can we just declare him Speaker and allow him to propose a bill?

[KWhit]

Dunno.