WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!! - Page 23

jeheinz72 · 04-30-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

dola, i find it very hard to believe everyone would have gotten an item

NO DOLA FOR YOU!

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

NO DOLA FOR YOU!

goddamn render

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

My thought is, advocating his idea sounds great now that we failed the camp.

Had we won the camp, some people probably would be voting for Danny for such a silly idea as to forgo trying for it at all.

I'm not knocking his idea, but really, it looks a lot better now given yesterday's events which were caused by something we had no idea was even possible.

You think we'd be in better shape if we'd completely ignored the camp? Perhaps it doesn't make a difference whether we miss converting them by 1 unit of work or 100, but what if it does?

USFLTecmo · 04-30-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

You think we'd be in better shape if we'd completely ignored the camp? Perhaps it doesn't make a difference whether we miss converting them by 1 unit of work or 100, but what if it does?

This is my line of thought as well. I fear if we would have went all-in on the mission yesterday, we'd have had to come back from too much of a hole to convert the next few camps.

jeheinz72 · 04-30-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

You think we'd be in better shape if we'd completely ignored the camp? Perhaps it doesn't make a difference whether we miss converting them by 1 unit of work or 100, but what if it does?

I'm not sure how I feel on the whole miss by a lot or miss by a little idea. I don't think I'll take that as a worry until I see the result of actually missing by a lot

My point there was just that Danny's idea sounds great *NOW*, given the fact that we know we missed the camp.

jeheinz72 · 04-30-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I'm not sure how I feel on the whole miss by a lot or miss by a little idea. I don't think I'll take that as a worry until I see the result of actually missing by a lot

My point there was just that Danny's idea sounds great *NOW*, given the fact that we know we missed the camp.

I should add, when I say the bolded I mean it in the light of "I'm not going to advocate completely ignoring a mission and missing it by a lot until we know that it doesn't hurt us extra to do so".

Thoguht I'd clear that up since it seemed ambiguous when I re-read it.

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I'm not sure how I feel on the whole miss by a lot or miss by a little idea. I don't think I'll take that as a worry until I see the result of actually missing by a lot

My point there was just that Danny's idea sounds great *NOW*, given the fact that we know we missed the camp.

I still don't really see how that idea would've been great. If that had happened, the wolves would've won the camp by default and we likely wouldn't have learned about the warrant or that division of work gets written up. Those are two kind of crucial pieces of information. We have a good chance to take this town - if we'd gone into this one not knowing about the warrant? Please.

Poli · 04-30-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

You can thank me for taking your spot under the Pass's bright light later Poli.

Thank you!

jeheinz72 · 04-30-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

I still don't really see how that idea would've been great. If that had happened, the wolves would've won the camp by default and we likely wouldn't have learned about the warrant or that division of work gets written up. Those are two kind of crucial pieces of information. We have a good chance to take this town - if we'd gone into this one not knowing about the warrant? Please.

Good points, no doubt.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm basically a whole lotta "meh" about that topic now. I'm not really keen on either loving or hating Danny and anyone who supported it.

jeheinz72 · 04-30-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

Thank you!

Looks like you either ran out the battery or he didn't find a wee little hole in my answer because I haven't had a follow up question!

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 02:27 PM

Yeah I'm not sure Danny or that line of argument is the way to go today.

Passacaglia · 04-30-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Yeah I'm not sure Danny or that line of argument is the way to go today.

Well, duh -- there's not even a mission to go on today! My thinking was that it was pretty obviously that it's the way we should have gone yesterday in hindsight. And I'm not sure what to make of that -- part of me wants to completely trust him, because why would a wolf have us abort the camps if they were going to prevent us from winning them anyway? But another part of me wonders how he got to be so clairvoyant about it.

jeheinz72 · 04-30-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Well, duh -- there's not even a mission to go on today! My thinking was that it was pretty obviously that it's the way we should have gone yesterday in hindsight. And I'm not sure what to make of that -- part of me wants to completely trust him, because why would a wolf have us abort the camps if they were going to prevent us from winning them anyway? But another part of me wonders how he got to be so clairvoyant about it.

Maybe the wolf would want to have us abort the camps for the reason you just gave yourself

Passacaglia · 04-30-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Looks like you either ran out the battery or he didn't find a wee little hole in my answer because I haven't had a follow up question!

I know you're just fucking with me, but.... :incazzato:

Passacaglia · 04-30-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Maybe the wolf would want to have us abort the camps for the reason you just gave yourself

Well yeah -- that all is wrapped up in the second half of my paragraph. Maybe he's not showing up because he heard about my fierce interrogations?

claphamsa · 04-30-2009, 02:39 PM

vote pass

hes pushing way too hard (although I cant read in detail as i would like)

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Well, duh -- there's not even a mission to go on today! My thinking was that it was pretty obviously that it's the way we should have gone yesterday in hindsight. And I'm not sure what to make of that -- part of me wants to completely trust him, because why would a wolf have us abort the camps if they were going to prevent us from winning them anyway? But another part of me wonders how he got to be so clairvoyant about it.

I don't think we can put this beyond a wolf. I would think the wolves would be happy wtih one of many ways to screw us up each day. If they could save their arrest for another time and have us screw up the camps all by our lonesome, why not? I would think they'd be happy with that. Then they could pull out the arrest another day.

Lathum · 04-30-2009, 02:49 PM

things are a little tense around here. Maybe it's because the lack of women miners.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

vote pass

hes pushing way too hard (although I cant read in detail as i would like)

Frankly, I don't think a wolf would be pushing today. There are no clear suspects, it's unlikely that we'll pull up a wolf until somebody does some digging and analysis. Why have a wolf running around making a show of himself and becoming a target?

PurdueBrad · 04-30-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

things are a little tense around here. Maybe it's because the lack of women miners.

That's a mission I would gladly go on!

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

things are a little tense around here. Maybe it's because the lack of women miners.

Hmm, maybe there's another ally waiting in the wings that could help with that.

RendeR · 04-30-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

things are a little tense around here. Maybe it's because the lack of women miners.

Miners are sorta like dwarfs, with the beards dust its hard to tell the men from the women.

RendeR · 04-30-2009, 02:51 PM

I'm out for a bit, gonna see if a nap will clear this migraine.

Passacaglia · 04-30-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

things are a little tense around here. Maybe it's because the lack of women miners.

Sounds like Lathum made the right choice today and decided to rub one out before entering the thread.

Poli · 04-30-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Frankly, I don't think a wolf would be pushing today. There are no clear suspects, it's unlikely that we'll pull up a wolf until somebody does some digging and analysis. Why have a wolf running around making a show of himself and becoming a target?

Yeah I'd have to agree.

Lathum · 04-30-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

And I wasn't saying it was a given that it would happen again, I simply said if it could happen once it COULD happen again, hence we could NOT ignore the mission.

still catching up but I think it is a stretch to assume we would win another camp by winning a mission, whats the point of winning camps then?

It just strikes me as convienent logic.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:14 PM

I especially think it's unlikely that an item would win us a camp.

I thought it was pretty clear from yesterday's setup that Abe was giving us a dilemma. We had a very hard camp to win, yet there were all kinds of tantalizing goodies over in the depot. It's like on Survivor when they tempt them with a bunch of food they can come eat if they cash out on the challenge.

Lathum · 04-30-2009, 03:17 PM

Vote Treasury

does that make sense?

Poli · 04-30-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

I especially think it's unlikely that an item would win us a camp.

I thought it was pretty clear from yesterday's setup that Abe was giving us a dilemma. We had a very hard camp to win, yet there were all kinds of tantalizing goodies over in the depot. It's like on Survivor when they tempt them with a bunch of food they can come eat if they cash out on the challenge.

I disagree with that. I think the items could be of great help at some point.

Lathum · 04-30-2009, 03:19 PM

one other thing I will mention.

Poli said he thinks there may have been a BG block last night then claimed he has a role today, seems like he could have been setting up for a fake reveal.

I have also seen him use the over the top pissed off person as a defense in the past when he was a wolf.

Passacaglia · 04-30-2009, 03:19 PM

I think most people have been bolding "Work ____" instead of vote, but it's probably fine.

Poli · 04-30-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

one other thing I will mention.

Poli said he thinks there may have been a BG block last night then claimed he has a role today, seems like he could have been setting up for a fake reveal.

I have also seen him use the over the top pissed off person as a defense in the past when he was a wolf.

Poli DID NOT say he thought there may have been a BG block last night.

Lathum · 04-30-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

Poli DID NOT say he thought there may have been a BG block last night.

you are 100% correct, it was Dubb. My bad, I have a hard time telling you guys apart for some reason.

Lathum · 04-30-2009, 03:27 PM

Vote Render

for reasons stated earlier.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

I disagree with that. I think the items could be of great help at some point.

I didn't say they wouldn't be of great help, but that they were unlikely to win us the camp yesterday.

Lathum · 04-30-2009, 03:27 PM

has anyone been keeping track of work?

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:28 PM

Yes, just a sec.

Poli · 04-30-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

I didn't say they wouldn't be of great help, but that they were unlikely to win us the camp yesterday.

Well, yeah, that I can agree with.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:30 PM

Gladhanding: dubbx3, clapx3, jeheinzx3 9/8
Oratory: Purduex3, Daddyx3, Autumn, Render 8/8
Treasury: Barkeepx3, EagleFan, USFL, Lathum 6/8
Organization: ntndeaconx3, Poli, Jackal 5/8

Passacaglia · 04-30-2009, 03:38 PM

Thanks Autumn. That leaves me, TheNorm, Schmidty, Chief Rum, Danny, and PB left. If Schmidty finishes organization, and two more finish treasury, we'll be able to use the other three as backup.

PurdueBrad · 04-30-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Thanks Autumn. That leaves me, TheNorm, Schmidty, Chief Rum, Danny, and PB left. If Schmidty finishes organization, and two more finish treasury, we'll be able to use the other three as backup.

Hey Helen Keller, check again.

PurdueBrad · 04-30-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Gladhanding: dubbx3, clapx3, jeheinzx3 9/8
Oratory: Purduex3, Daddyx3, Autumn, Render 8/8
Treasury: Barkeepx3, EagleFan, USFL, Lathum 6/8
Organization: ntndeaconx3, Poli, Jackal 5/8

Me

Passacaglia · 04-30-2009, 03:45 PM

Whoopsie. So we've only got five left, which means that after Schmidty finishes organizing for us, and two people finish treasury, we'll have two available as backups.

PurdueBrad · 04-30-2009, 03:46 PM

Apologize for forgetting me please.

PurdueBrad · 04-30-2009, 03:46 PM

And I am, of course, just kidding.

Passacaglia · 04-30-2009, 03:48 PM

Man, today is just not my day.

Poli · 04-30-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I demand you apologize for forgetting me.

Fixed.

Barkeep49 · 04-30-2009, 03:57 PM

How about votes? I know Poli is out there on Pass and Lathum on Render. Anything else?

Poli · 04-30-2009, 03:58 PM

UNVOTE PASS

I might as well get that out of the way.

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 03:59 PM

PB 1 (EF 914)
Poli 1 (Pass 991)
Autumn 1 (heinz 1063)
Pass 1 (clap 1116)
render 1 (lathum 1134)

04-30-2009, 02:39 PM	#1116
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	vote pass hes pushing way too hard (although I cant read in detail as i would like) __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-30-2009, 02:51 PM	#1123
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'm out for a bit, gonna see if a nap will clear this migraine. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

04-30-2009, 03:58 PM	#1149
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	UNVOTE PASS I might as well get that out of the way. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

04-30-2009, 02:27 PM	#1111
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Yeah I'm not sure Danny or that line of argument is the way to go today.

04-30-2009, 02:49 PM	#1118
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	things are a little tense around here. Maybe it's because the lack of women miners.

04-30-2009, 03:14 PM	#1127
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I especially think it's unlikely that an item would win us a camp. I thought it was pretty clear from yesterday's setup that Abe was giving us a dilemma. We had a very hard camp to win, yet there were all kinds of tantalizing goodies over in the depot. It's like on Survivor when they tempt them with a bunch of food they can come eat if they cash out on the challenge.

04-30-2009, 03:17 PM	#1128
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Vote Treasury does that make sense?

04-30-2009, 03:19 PM	#1130
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	one other thing I will mention. Poli said he thinks there may have been a BG block last night then claimed he has a role today, seems like he could have been setting up for a fake reveal. I have also seen him use the over the top pissed off person as a defense in the past when he was a wolf.

04-30-2009, 03:19 PM	#1131
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I think most people have been bolding "Work ____" instead of vote, but it's probably fine.

04-30-2009, 03:27 PM	#1134
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Vote Render for reasons stated earlier.

04-30-2009, 03:27 PM	#1136
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	has anyone been keeping track of work?

04-30-2009, 03:28 PM	#1137
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Yes, just a sec.

04-30-2009, 03:30 PM	#1139
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Gladhanding: dubbx3, clapx3, jeheinzx3 9/8 Oratory: Purduex3, Daddyx3, Autumn, Render 8/8 Treasury: Barkeepx3, EagleFan, USFL, Lathum 6/8 Organization: ntndeaconx3, Poli, Jackal 5/8

04-30-2009, 03:38 PM	#1140
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Thanks Autumn. That leaves me, TheNorm, Schmidty, Chief Rum, Danny, and PB left. If Schmidty finishes organization, and two more finish treasury, we'll be able to use the other three as backup.

04-30-2009, 03:45 PM	#1143
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Whoopsie. So we've only got five left, which means that after Schmidty finishes organizing for us, and two people finish treasury, we'll have two available as backups.

04-30-2009, 03:46 PM	#1144
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Apologize for forgetting me please.

04-30-2009, 03:46 PM	#1145
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	And I am, of course, just kidding.

04-30-2009, 03:48 PM	#1146
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Man, today is just not my day.

04-30-2009, 03:57 PM	#1148
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	How about votes? I know Poli is out there on Pass and Lathum on Render. Anything else?

04-30-2009, 03:59 PM	#1150
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	PB 1 (EF 914) Poli 1 (Pass 991) Autumn 1 (heinz 1063) Pass 1 (clap 1116) render 1 (lathum 1134)

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