Official 2022 College Football Thread

[RainMaker]

LSU just got fucked bad on that review.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

LSU just got fucked bad on that review.

Ball changed neither direction nor rotation, zero indication it was tipped.

[bob]

Seems to me you could see his finger bend back when it was tipped

[Solecismic]

You'd go for two here, right? Other team having the advantage in the second OT.

[GrantDawg]

Going for two. That's some kind of ballsy call.

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[GrantDawg]

Down goes Bama!

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[Lathum]

What a finish!

[cuervo72]

Ok LSU. I apologize for what I said earlier.

[HerRealName]

Brian Kelley may be a world-class asshole but he's such a good coach.

[Edward64]

Fantastic ending. Gutsy call by Kelly

[JonInMiddleGA]

Well fuck. What a magnificently craptacular day I've had.

Bill O'Brien might or might not make it to the non-playoff bowl game at Bama.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

Brian Kelley may be a world-class asshole but he's such a good coach.

Absolutely clowned Saban.

[Galaril]

Wow Kelly ballsy call.

[JPhillips]

Seems like Tennessee is in a really good spot even with the loss. To me it's currently GA, UM, OSU, and TN. One of UM/OSU is out, so even if TCU is in, TN still looks like the fourth team in and they won't have to win a championship game to get there.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Ball changed neither direction nor rotation, zero indication it was tipped.

His finger goes back. It's incredibly minor and would be ridiculous to negate an egregious pass interference, but I think it was tipped.

That was tipped you can see his finger go back slightly. I think. #LSU pic.twitter.com/UK0iVsBStH

— Tony Clements (@TonyCMKE) November 6, 2022

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Seems like Tennessee is in a really good spot even with the loss. To me it's currently GA, UM, OSU, and TN. One of UM/OSU is out, so even if TCU is in, TN still looks like the fourth team in and they won't have to win a championship game to get there.

Yeah, their schedule is pretty easy the rest of the way.

Very weird to have no Alabama or Clemson in a playoff.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Seems like Tennessee is in a really good spot even with the loss. To me it's currently GA, UM, OSU, and TN. One of UM/OSU is out, so even if TCU is in, TN still looks like the fourth team in and they won't have to win a championship game to get there.

I mean, I get why it is. But the parallel here:

One of UM/OSU is out, because one will lose HTH, and not make it to their conference championship.

TN is in good shape, because they lost HTH and will not make it to their conference championship.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Seems like Tennessee is in a really good spot even with the loss. To me it's currently GA, UM, OSU, and TN. One of UM/OSU is out, so even if TCU is in, TN still looks like the fourth team in and they won't have to win a championship game to get there.

Where they'll get rolled by any team with any physicality. Or coaching.

Their spot isn't nearly as secure as it was before Bama lost either, their signature win is now over LSU.

[Ksyrup]

So, FSU basically beat Alabama, right?

[bob]

Tennessee lost now, instead of the last game of the regular season.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I mean, I get why it is. But the parallel here:

One of UM/OSU is out, because one will lose HTH, and not make it to their conference championship.

TN is in good shape, because they lost HTH and will not make it to their conference championship.

Vols best win in that scenario is LSU and then Bama
The tOSU/UM loser's best win is Penn State

[Ksyrup]

Extra hour of sleep and 2 close Pac-12 games (at the moment). Might be a night to stay up.

[Lathum]

Jesus. forgot it was daylight savings

[Ksyrup]

Mike Leach balls - assuming the line drive onsides kick was intended.

[Solecismic]

The only thing I'd wonder about with the Big Ten is whether the UM/OSU winner gets in with a loss in the championship game. The west could be in a four-way tie at three conference losses next week. I could see Iowa getting through again. Though only Northwestern seems to be out of it completely.

The Pac-12 is eating its own, as usual. The Big 12 - no one is even under 3 losses other than TCU. Clemson has some decent wins, but none as highly ranked as Penn State. So there's plenty of room for a lucky non-division champ from the SEC.

We go into week 11 likely with four undefeateds and seven one-loss majors.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Mike Leach balls - assuming the line drive onsides kick was intended.

I wonder why this tactic isn't used more. If you miss, there is still a bit of chaos that can ensue 20 yards down the field for the ball.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

The only thing I'd wonder about with the Big Ten is whether the UM/OSU winner gets in with a loss in the championship game. The west could be in a four-way tie at three conference losses next week. I could see Iowa getting through again. Though only Northwestern seems to be out of it completely.

The Pac-12 is eating its own, as usual. The Big 12 - no one is even under 3 losses other than TCU. Clemson has some decent wins, but none as highly ranked as Penn State. So there's plenty of room for a lucky non-division champ from the SEC.

We go into week 11 likely with four undefeateds and seven one-loss majors.

I would say maybe for Ohio State if they lose but no for Michigan. That Michigan schedule is hilariously bad.

[miked]

I can't believe RU was beating Michigan 17-14 like halfway through the 3rd quarter, and ended up losing 52-17. A complete meltdown.

[Brian Swartz]

Parity on parade. Georgia was the only contender that impressed this week IMO.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

So, FSU basically beat Alabama, right?

Math don’t lie.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Parity on parade. Georgia was the only contender that impressed this week IMO.

Arguably, LSU is a contender (now)

[Brian Swartz]

I'm operating under the assumption that two losses is one too many, regardless of what conference you are from.

[Kodos]

I think I’ve reached the point of giving up on IU football ever being good.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by miked

I can't believe RU was beating Michigan 17-14 like halfway through the 3rd quarter, and ended up losing 52-17. A complete meltdown.

Yes. Michigan has had a really hard time getting things going in the first halves of games. That and the red zone have been issues almost all year. They’ve been able to overcome these because their schedule has been pretty weak. Could be big issues against tougher opponents.

[hoosierdude]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I think I’ve reached the point of giving up on IU football ever being good.

I have to agree. Definitely not a good decade or two for the Hoosiers in CFB.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I think I’ve reached the point of giving up on IU football ever being good.

Two words: Kansas football

If we can do it, so can you. Even after like 4 bad hires in a row. And 99 losses last decade. Sigh

(And we're not good, but hopefully competent)

SI

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Vols best win in that scenario is LSU and then Bama
The tOSU/UM loser's best win is Penn State

No, I mean like I said, I get it. But if Bama wins out, they are 2-loss. If LSU gets beat by UGA in the champ game, they are 3-loss. If PSU wins out, they are also 2-loss. So basically it boils down to "the SEC is the SEC and Alabama is still Alabama." Which isn't necessarily wrong, but still is in the realm of "our set of circular wins is better than your set of circular wins."

(All that said, I'm not convinced that PSU *does* finish out. And it would be rather amusing too if Arky pulls an upset. Of course then all that would probably lead to is Bama going to the SEC championship and winning it...or maybe LSU wins whatever tiebreaker, I dunno. In any case I am discounting Ole Miss, because fuck Lane Kiffin.)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Didn't win the fight with the cops either

Arkansas football players arrested following loss to Liberty, per report

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

No, I mean like I said, I get it. But if Bama wins out, they are 2-loss. If LSU gets beat by UGA in the champ game, they are 3-loss. If PSU wins out, they are also 2-loss. So basically it boils down to "the SEC is the SEC and Alabama is still Alabama." Which isn't necessarily wrong, but still is in the realm of "our set of circular wins is better than your set of circular wins."

(All that said, I'm not convinced that PSU *does* finish out. And it would be rather amusing too if Arky pulls an upset. Of course then all that would probably lead to is Bama going to the SEC championship and winning it...or maybe LSU wins whatever tiebreaker, I dunno. In any case I am discounting Ole Miss, because fuck Lane Kiffin.)

I don't see Arkansas or A&M pulling the necessary upsets of LSU to shake up the West so that's largely a moot point. Ole Miss does have the simplest path: win out (Bama, Arky, State) and LSU lose once. That would give the Tigers 2 losses in the conference, Rebs only 1 loss and the h2h wouldn't matter, that would get Ole Miss to the SEC itle game.

For Bama to get there, LSU has to lose both games AND Bama has to win out.

[albionmoonlight]

Tulane hosting UCF this weekend with both ranked in the top 25.

The last time Tulane hosted a game with both teams ranked?

Spoiler

1949

[Brian Swartz]

Seems to me the big question for Tuesday is how far they drop Tennessee. I'm guessing 4 with a ticked-off TCU at 5.

[Solecismic]

They have to think ahead with the ratings. With TCU, they have to be secure in the playoff if they remain undefeated. The decision is what to do if they don't go through that minefield of a remaining schedule without a major scratch (they probably won't).

Clemson not only took a nose-dive for its own performance, but their half-decent wins also look less impressive with yesterday's results and there's no way to make it up given a championship game against North Carolina, whose most impressive win is a home game against Pittsburgh. So the committee likely follows the polls and tells the ACC, "sorry, it's not happening this year."

I don't agree with the narrative that the Big Ten stumbled. As long as the winner of UM/OSU doesn't flat-line the following week against the western division winner (everyone but Northwestern is still very much alive), that's a two-seed. There were several weather games and Rutgers/Michigan had an uncomfortable score at half, but the stats were fine and the game was over midway through the third quarter. Michigan has outscored its last four opponents 100-3 in the second half. They've allowed 48 second-half points all season, which is only 8 more than North Carolina allowed in the fourth quarter alone to Appalachian State (they did win that game, though). Michigan's wear-em-out approach is even getting a couple of first-place votes away from Georgia, though I think Georgia is #1 until proven otherwise.

[tarcone]

Where has that offense been all year? Not very good but not shitty. I will take it.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

'97 ... but that team finished 5-6 with four of the losses coming to top 25 teams. 37th in PPG, 65th (of112)in points allowed. That team was unsuccesful.

This team spends extended periods looking like they've never seen a football game, nor a football, before.

Agree with this.

I checked out sports-reference where they have an SRS category that rates teams based on wins, losses, and adjusts for strength of schedule and margin of victory.

The 2022 Canes are -2.63 in that metric. The only other teams to be in the negative since 1970 (yes, not 70s, 1970) are the aforementioned 1997 team (-1.22) and the 2007 Randy Shannon disaster (-1.23).

That 1997 team would destroy this one. Imagine the 2022 defense trying to cover Reggie Wayne or stop Edgerrin James.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Didn't win the fight with the cops either

Arkansas football players arrested following loss to Liberty, per report

Our defense sucks.

It's going to get even worse with the inevitable suspensions (or worse).

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Seems to me the big question for Tuesday is how far they drop Tennessee. I'm guessing 4 with a ticked-off TCU at 5.

AP and Coaches have TN drop to #5 and TCU #4.

LSU is up to #7 and #8. Best 7-2 team.

(The Hogs, not surprisingly, lost all their votes)

[Ghost Econ]

I find all the "Alabama dynasty is dead" takes are weird. Feels like everyone just wants to be first on it.

They lost on a last second field goal after botching a 2 minute warning on the road to a maybe playoff team.

They lost on a 2 point conversion in OT on the road at night in LSU to a team probably going to the SEC championship.

Yeah, they don't normally lose 2 of these in a year, but it's not like these are world ending losses.

[Edward64]

Pretty much agree, I was thinking the same thing when I read this Georgia football: It's official. The Bulldogs are the new Alabama

Georgia is top "Dawg" right now but not quite the new Alabama. That will take at least another NC in short succession and a 3-4 years of being in the final 4.

[GrantDawg]

As a Georgia fan, I am absolutely not claiming to be the new Alabama. The new Clemson? Sure. But we would need a couple of decades to be Alabama.

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[HerRealName]

For Alabama, the true Saban dynasty is reliant on having a top tier offensive coordinator. Sarkisian and Kiffin were just home run hires that made Alabama near invincible. O'Brien is nowhere near that tier. Alabama's offense has become reliant on Young's ability to improvise and that's just not a consistent formula for success against good competition.

The most concerning thing for Alabama might be their reliance on transfers for their best offensive threats. It doesn't seem sustainable to pull a Gibbs or Jameson Williams every year.