NFL 2022-23 Season Thread

[Solecismic]

The NFL is considering moving the game, most likely to Detroit, where the Bills also play on Thanksgiving. They'll make that call tomorrow most likely.

This is a very focused lake-effect storm. Right now, Bills Stadium (just south of Buffalo) is dead center of a small area that is almost certain to receive eight-plus inches from the storm. And 50-60% chance of 18 inches. And 10-20% chance of 30 inches or more.

Most of it should be over by mid-day Saturday, so I think they'll stay in Buffalo. People take snow removal seriously in the snow belts.

[sterlingice]

So what I'm hearing is that they should move the game to Saturday, not the Detroit!

SI

[Solecismic]

It seems Detroit is the answer, after all. No change in the forecast. Maybe the snowplows are still in the shop, or the "free personal shovel to the first 20,000 people in attendance" promotion wasn't approved by the league.

[bhlloy]

Boooo. Snow games are one of the most fun throw backs IMO, but a 9-7 ending with 2 passes attempted over 15 yards the whole game doesn’t really align with what the league wants I guess.

[Solecismic]

It should be just a little windy by game time there. They could clear the field, but probably not the stands. But I see why they made the call. The forecast change an hour ago now calls for 31-47 inches over the next 48 hours for that area. A 50-60% chance of reaching the 30. This looks like a once-every-few-years one. Lake effect snows are common this time of year because Lake Erie hasn't frozen, but the angle of this one is lining up nicely for Buffalo.

[Ksyrup]

No Fun League!

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Boooo. Snow games are one of the most fun throw backs IMO,

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

No Fun League!

I agree. Give the people what they want!

Devin Singletary literally running through a snow canyon taller than he is sounds like very little fun for him and a WHOLE LOTTA LAUGHS for me

— B&G Dome Terrace Paper Airplane Competition Team (@BnGreview) November 17, 2022

[Ksyrup]

And then getting smashed out of the blue when a LB bursts through one side of the snow canyon.

Sounds like the NFL version of Wipeout. I'm all in!

[Ksyrup]

Titans OC arrested for DUI last night. Big win and reason to celebrate, sure, but doesn't the team pay for drivers, or is that just for players?

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Titans OC arrested for DUI last night. Big win and reason to celebrate, sure, but doesn't the team pay for drivers, or is that just for players?

Even if the team does not, I am pretty sure that NFL coordinators make high six/low seven figure salaries. The dude can pay for an Uber.

[NobodyHere]

To paraphrase a joke heard on reddit:

You'd think the OC would be able to put together a successful drive.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Even if the team does not, I am pretty sure that NFL coordinators make high six/low seven figure salaries. The dude can pay for an Uber.

It's not like he won't be back at the office in a few hours to pick up his car anyway!

[Ksyrup]

What could have been pic.twitter.com/20Dd6U8PBe

— Pardon My Take (@PardonMyTake) November 18, 2022

[albionmoonlight]

Thursday Night Football has really lost its luster, huh?

All talk of missed snow games and DUIs in here.

[Kodos]

At least for me, Thursday night football has always been the most skippable NFL coverage. Seems like the match-ups are rarely good.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Titans OC arrested for DUI last night. Big win and reason to celebrate, sure, but doesn't the team pay for drivers, or is that just for players?

Cropped from an ESPN and an USA article.

Downing went through the intake process at 4:36 a.m. and posted a $2,500 bail bond at 6:46 a.m. The Titans had returned to Nashville early Friday after their 27-17 win over the Green Bay Packers, with their team plane landing at 2:07 a.m.

Downing, 42, was stopped in Williamson County along Interstate 65 near Moores Lane, about 15 miles south of downtown Nashville. According to a preliminary report,*a*trooper was patrolling I-65 southbound about*2:30 a.m. when he observed a vehicle traveling at a high rate of speed.

1) He was putting a few away on the plane ride home and...
2) No one in the Titans organization should have let the guy in that mugshot leave the facility behind the wheel. And finally
3) I'm very happy this did not have a Britt Reid type of ending.

[miami_fan]

Source - Commanders discipline players for drinking on plane

Huh? This was a rule?

[miami_fan]

Sources - Klint Kubiak to call plays for Denver Broncos

So if you are the one deciding Nathaniel Hackett's job status and things turn around for the offense, does Hackett get credit for making the move or does he deserve blame for not making the move earlier?

[miami_fan]

Dola, and if I have a coach helping out with the in-game situations and now someone else is calling plays, what exactly is Hackett doing now?

[Coffee Warlord]

And what we've expected for awhile has happened - the endless pounding Fields has taken caught up to him today.

[SirFozzie]

Life finds a way. So do the Patriots over the Jets.

[bronconick]

None more Jets

[MIJB#19]

The season is shaping up to have all the wild cards coming from the two Eastern divisions. I suspect it's mathematically near impossible to hold up due to the truckload of divisional games still to be played between them. As of today we're a 49ers loss at the Cardinals, and to be fair also a Bengals non-win at the Steelers and a Chargers non-win vs Kansas, away from that virtual situation.

[bhlloy]

Give young QB's time, Peyton Manning sucked for a while, Justin Fields is turning it around, yadda yadda... Zach Wilson is absolutely horrific every time I watch him. There just doesn't seem to be anything close to an NFL QB there, he's supposedly athletic but has zero pocket presence and takes terrible sacks, he's inaccurate, he can't read a defense. It's ugly, even when you account for the lack of experience so far. I know he's coming off the best performance of his career in an impressive win against the Bills, but every time I watch him he looks completely lost.

I fully look forward to this being brought up in 4 years when he wins his second SB after outdueling Mahomes and winning MVP.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Give young QB's time, Peyton Manning sucked for a while, Justin Fields is turning it around, yadda yadda... Zach Wilson is absolutely horrific every time I watch him. There just doesn't seem to be anything close to an NFL QB there, he's supposedly athletic but has zero pocket presence and takes terrible sacks, he's inaccurate, he can't read a defense. It's ugly, even when you account for the lack of experience so far. I know he's coming off the best performance of his career in an impressive win against the Bills, but every time I watch him he looks completely lost.

I fully look forward to this being brought up in 4 years when he wins his second SB after outdueling Mahomes and winning MVP.

Yeah, I've seen enough. Wilson does not have it. Never will.

And comparing his awfulness to Peyton's rookie struggles with misreads and interceptions is very, very apples-to-kumquats.

[Swaggs]

I wish we’d see some signs of promise from Pickett. I feel like we are going to be in position to draft a good QB next draft and will almost have to pull the trigger because Pickett isn’t showing enough.

It sucks living in a world with a competently run Bengals and (semi-competently run?) Browns.

[Ksyrup]

We were driving this afternoon and I caught the last couple of minutes of this game and the NE announcers were assholes. Just dogging on Wilson and punting for OT, talking about how much better Jones is (despite a 3-3 score). I don't know who the commentator is but I can't imagine how insufferable he would have been to listen to when the Pats were great.

[molson]

Mac Jones completed 85% of his passes, but the Jets defense was great on their side of the field, had a great pass rush, and the Patriots missed some Field Goals. It's concerning that Mac seems to have regressed from last year, and he holds the ball too long, but, he was accurate and moved the ball to a point (before a sack ended just about every drive - obviously the pats have big offensive line problems too)

Zach Wilson is easily the worst QB in the NFL. The Jets had 2 yards of offense in the second half. Two. (And negative 21 yards passing if you count sacks).

Losing Breece Hall was huge but I'd love to see the Jets down the stretch with Flacco.

[JPhillips]

You don't see 24-27 and only three points very often.

[Carman Bulldog]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

We were driving this afternoon and I caught the last couple of minutes of this game and the NE announcers were assholes. Just dogging on Wilson and punting for OT, talking about how much better Jones is (despite a 3-3 score). I don't know who the commentator is but I can't imagine how insufferable he would have been to listen to when the Pats were great.

You're probably referring to Scott Zolak. The Around the NFL Podcast has radio clips on their weekly recap show. Zolak is the Patriots color guy and is the worst.

[molson]

Zolak is the worst, I agree. He does that thing where he obnoxiously over-reacts to every play (often incorrectly) before the play by play guy even has the chance to describe it. "Oh no!" "Yes!!", etc.

Fortunately today was a rare post-Brady era Sunday afternoon game where the Pats were actually the main national TV game in their time slot (and on in Idaho, in my case).

[miami_fan]

Ouch

If the season ended today, the Broncos would hand the 5th overall pick to Seattle.

Four teams projected to pick in the top 10 are slated to give those picks away. pic.twitter.com/Q0zANAwmpG

— Robert Mays (@robertmays) November 21, 2022

[molson]

Sidenote, I was watching the Vikings/Cowboys game in a neighbor's yard with some people - some sports fans, some not - I referred to Tony Romo as the "color commentator", and somebody thought I said "colored commentator" (because they weren't familiar with the former term, not being a sports fan I guess). Glad we straightened that out before I left!

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Ouch

If the season ended today, the Broncos would hand the 5th overall pick to Seattle.

Four teams projected to pick in the top 10 are slated to give those picks away. pic.twitter.com/Q0zANAwmpG

— Robert Mays (@robertmays) November 21, 2022

All I can say is thankfully, the Bears are not one of the teams slated to give away their first round pick.

[molson]

Sometimes you come across a team that isn't "your team", but you get into in a particular season because of circumstances. That's the Seahawks for me this year - I have a lot of Seahawks fan friends, I love Pete Carroll when he's all running around and happy, and the Russell Wilson/Geno Smith thing is just fantastic.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by molson

Sidenote, I was watching the Vikings/Cowboys game in a neighbor's yard with some people - some sports fans, some not - I referred to Tony Romo as the "color commentator", and somebody thought I said "colored commentator" (because they weren't familiar with the former term, not being a sports fan I guess). Glad we straightened that out before I left!

As I read this I immediately pictured this being an old Chappelle show skit.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Ouch

If the season ended today, the Broncos would hand the 5th overall pick to Seattle.

Four teams projected to pick in the top 10 are slated to give those picks away. pic.twitter.com/Q0zANAwmpG

— Robert Mays (@robertmays) November 21, 2022

The Rams won a Super Bowl out of the deal. So that's a win.

And the Browns knew what they were getting with the probable suspension. So that's TBD.

The Saints and Broncos really screwed this up.

[Ksyrup]

About freaking time. Gordon has absolutely not deserved all the carries he had this year - he shouldn't have even been resigned - but then he bitched after not being the starter a couple weeks ago, Hackett gives in, and he rewards him with a couple more debilitating fumbles. And FINALLY, he's released - on the same day Chase Edmonds is ruled out for multiple weeks, too.

Anyone want to audition?

Every Melvin Gordon fumble as a member of the Denver Broncos

Good riddance @Melvingordon25 pic.twitter.com/0dl5Q4jg5T

— Michael🇲🇽 (@Bronco_Hater) November 21, 2022

[Coffee Warlord]

Fields dislocated his non-throwing shoulder. No timetable yet on how long he's out.

As amazing of athlete as he is, and Dat Boy Run So Good (tm), I'm still not sold on him as an actual quarterback. He still misses wide open reads, and his accuracy is maddeningly inconsistent. Guy can scramble, he's an incredible runner, but he just can't throw when he has to.

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Fields dislocated his non-throwing shoulder. No timetable yet on how long he's out.

As amazing of athlete as he is, and Dat Boy Run So Good (tm), I'm still not sold on him as an actual quarterback. He still misses wide open reads, and his accuracy is maddeningly inconsistent. Guy can scramble, he's an incredible runner, but he just can't throw when he has to.

I would say at best, we don't know. He's made some great throws. He's missed some throws. But the Bears aren't throwing it enough to really know whether he can be a QB who can win a game with his arm.

I'll hold out that judgement until next season. If he looks like this next season, I'd be concerned.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by rjolley

I would say at best, we don't know. He's made some great throws. He's missed some throws. But the Bears aren't throwing it enough to really know whether he can be a QB who can win a game with his arm.

That's the problem - for every "holy shit" throw he makes, there's half a dozen missed reads or missed throws.

I'll hold out that judgement until next season. If he looks like this next season, I'd be concerned.

Problem is, next year, the Bears have a fuckload of cap space, and a top 5 pick. They COULD theoretically be something next year, but not if they're going to have to spend yet another season deciding if they have a QB or a running back.

[Edward64]

Falcons still in the playoff hunt with a 5-6 record. Not that big of a fan but did watch the game against the Bears. Entertaining game but definitely not a great performance.

Let's hope Tampa chokes against Cleveland to keep it interesting.

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

That's the problem - for every "holy shit" throw he makes, there's half a dozen missed reads or missed throws.



Problem is, next year, the Bears have a fuckload of cap space, and a top 5 pick. They COULD theoretically be something next year, but not if they're going to have to spend yet another season deciding if they have a QB or a running back.

Being something next year is a stretch, but possible. There's still a lot of holes on this roster that needs to be filled. Can Fields be the QB that team should build around? I think he is, but it's hard to tell. If he makes a jump, then they have a shot to go far. If he can't do the job, then you go get a QB in the next draft to fit into an already built up roster.

That is the ugly part of a rebuild. There's so much to fix, it's hard to tell if you have coal or diamonds in the rough.

[NobodyHere]

Report: Cardinals fire assistant coach Sean Kugler over incident in Mexico City - ProFootballTalk

I wonder what this this one is about.

[miami_fan]

Cardinals assistant coach Sean Kugler fired for groping woman, sources say

[bhlloy]

Is being benched for Mike White good for a QB's development? Asking for a friend.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by rjolley

Being something next year is a stretch, but possible. There's still a lot of holes on this roster that needs to be filled. Can Fields be the QB that team should build around? I think he is, but it's hard to tell. If he makes a jump, then they have a shot to go far. If he can't do the job, then you go get a QB in the next draft to fit into an already built up roster.

That is the ugly part of a rebuild. There's so much to fix, it's hard to tell if you have coal or diamonds in the rough.

I think you look at every other QB in the draft the last couple years, including the can't miss of the decade, you are nuts to move on from Fields right now. I dunno, maybe it's just a terrible couple of years for QBs but the alternative is what... you end up with another project and hope he's got magic dust from day 1? There's no sure thing QB's where the Bears will be picking, and sometimes even the sure thing isn't a sure thing.

Also, everything you are saying about Fields was said about Jalen Hurts last year. As an outsider I just think that would be the stupidest thing an NFL team has done in a while. But I'm usually wrong on QB's so who knows.

[B & B]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Is being benched for Mike White good for a QB's development? Asking for a friend.

IF you watched/wasted any part of 3+ hours watching the Jets/Pats game then you know this answer.

The Jets are like a mini version of the Donkeys. Both are wasting top 10 defenses and will not make the playoffs, except the Jets can cut their QB while Denver is set back years with that 250 million dollar mistake.

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I think you look at every other QB in the draft the last couple years, including the can't miss of the decade, you are nuts to move on from Fields right now. I dunno, maybe it's just a terrible couple of years for QBs but the alternative is what... you end up with another project and hope he's got magic dust from day 1? There's no sure thing QB's where the Bears will be picking, and sometimes even the sure thing isn't a sure thing.

Also, everything you are saying about Fields was said about Jalen Hurts last year. As an outsider I just think that would be the stupidest thing an NFL team has done in a while. But I'm usually wrong on QB's so who knows.

I agree. I think Justin is on track to be a solid QB for the Bears for a long time. He's not there now but he has a great chance to get there both with his arm and with his legs. And he's shown enough for the Bears to build around him in the offseason to see where he can go with a better roster.

[Edward64]

Good to see 2 Hogs lining up for the Lions. Ragnow and Skipper.