2012 MLB Thread (Cabrera Gets Triple Crown, first since Yaz 1967)

[stevew]

Too freaking cold to be out there. At least the Primanti's sandwiches are pretty reasonable.

[oykib]

Originally Posted by Atocep

This is the same MLB that doesn't allow clips on youtube because they want to force people to go to MLB.com for highlights. They don't have a damn clue when it comes to marketing so I'm not surprised.

A few months ago, I found a corner of youtube with a bunch of full games from the 70s and 80s, including pre- and post game shows. I'd read a Grant Bisbee article on SBNation where he mentioned running across them. He wouldn't post links because he was afraid of the Bud mafia coming to take them down. I wonder if they're still up.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Shkspr

If his fastball is only 88 at this point, why hide him? Terry Ryan is probably salivating on line two as we speak.

To try and make teams think that he is going through correctable problems and that he just doesnt stink.

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I'm about to go see the Pirates and Rockies. I predict that I'll be shoving sharp objects into my face by the 4th inning. Look for me in the headlines tomorrow!

I promise to wave if I see you on tv!

[Scoobz0202]

The MLB being extremely strict with youtube is interesting. With the popularity of youtube, why wouldn't you want to attract the younger generation to your game? I understand, its the revenue from their own highlights on their website, but I think attracting fans would be better in the long run.

But, I will at least give them some credit. Their video section is really well done and they put highlights up pretty quick.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Anyone watching Giants/Reds? How exactly does one double to shortstop?

[Scoobz0202]

He didn't. It was hit down the left field line.

Stubbs, right?

[Scoobz0202]

Holyyyyy shittttt... I wasn't expecting the Reds to score off Cain. Pleasant surprise.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

He didn't. It was hit down the left field line.

Stubbs, right?

Yeah. I got out of my car and came upstairs and there was a guy on second. I looked at Yahoo, their boxscore said he doubled to short. Weird.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

With the popularity of youtube, why wouldn't you want to attract the younger generation to your game?

YouTube is for the younger generation?

[Scoobz0202]

Poor wording, I guess. More youth on youtube than on mlb.com.

[Lathum]

Yuck.

Bay and Pelfry on the DL, reports saying Pelfry needs Tommy John surgey. Bay has cracked ribs.

[stevew]

I was annoyed by the lack of the box scores as well. I know that it makes me a horrible fan, but I only opted for the $3 months rate cause I figure I will be done with the 2012 Pirates in less than 4 months.

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Dunno if this has been mentioned before, but here's a great example of the ways in which MLB doesn't "get it" in terms of marketing the way the NFL does:

I have the MLB.com At Bat app for my iPhone. I opted for the free version. I don't get any video replays or real-time streaming video or audio - OK, I get that. But I can't even get a box score through the app. How does this make any sense?

Hello MLB - there's this thing called the "internet" - I can go to any number of sports news websites and get up to the second live box scores for free via the browser on my phone, but you want me to give you $15 to view those box scores on your app?

Compare and contrast this with the NFL's app - unless they have changed it this year, I could get live box scores of games via that app, because the NFL isn't stupid - they know I can get that info free any number of places, and they'd rather have my eyeballs on their app with their ads embedded.

When the fuck is MLB going to get a clue when it comes to marketing...

[Scoobz0202]

Is Bochy the type of manager that consistently leaves SP's out too long? Or is the bullpen really beat up/tired from the double header?

[cartman]

Yu Darvish had an outstanding start against the Yankees. He threw 8 scoreless innings, had 10 Ks, while giving up 6 hits and 2 walks. He struck out the side in the 7th. He pitched himself out of a bases-loaded no-out jam in the 3rd. He got a standing ovation from Nolan Ryan when he left the mound after the 8th.

edit: Looks like he's coming back out to start the 9th.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by cartman

Yu Darvish had an outstanding start against the Yankees. He threw 8 scoreless innings, had 10 Ks, while giving up 6 hits and 2 walks. He struck out the side in the 7th. He pitched himself out of a bases-loaded no-out jam in the 3rd. He got a standing ovation from Nolan Ryan when he left the mound after the 8th.

edit: Looks like he's coming back out to start the 9th.

not sure why. I know hes not really a rook, but he's already thrown 113 pitches heading into yhe ninth. Got the first guy out and then a lines single.now they are getting him out. not smart imo

[Scoobz0202]

And now he comes out. Finally.

e: Why wouldn't you bring Nathan out from the get go? He has had a couple rough outings but he is a solid closer.

[cartman]

The first three batters in for the Yankees in the 9th were 0-9 tonight against Darvish, that's probably why they left him out there. He was still throwing in the mid-90s, so he wasn't tired. I'm pretty sure they weren't going to leave him out there for more than 5 or 6 pitches. Gave the fans a chance to thank him when he got pulled.

[Jas_lov]

Darvish pitched great. The Yankees are patient hitters and it looked like they were trying to work the count like they always do, but Darvish was consistently getting ahead of hitters with his fastball and finishing them off with his breaking ball. Their only real threat was when they had bases loaded, no outs, and Yu struck out Granderson and then got A-Rod to hit into a DP. Kuroda was good too, but Darvish was better. Pretty impressive pitching tonight by the two starters against the two best offenses in baseball.

[cartman]

Evidently that was only the 7th time in MLB history that two Japanese starting pitchers have faced off in a game.

[MizzouRah]

Fucking Cubs.. lol

[kingfc22]

Giants looked like a team that got into town at 3 AM. Hopefully the late inning pitch at Posey's knees wakes them up for the next two.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by TroyF

not sure why. I know hes not really a rook, but he's already thrown 113 pitches heading into yhe ninth. Got the first guy out and then a lines single.now they are getting him out. not smart imo

I agree. He threw a lot of pitches in his last start as well(121 in 6 1/3). Not sure how many games they play in Japan but you would think the Rangers might want to make sure they dont overuse him early in the season as I dont think winning in April is the important thing to them.

[Logan]

Still waiting for a picture that shows Ryan 1000% didn't swing.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Logan

Still waiting for a picture that shows Ryan 1000% didn't swing.

You might be the only one.

[k0ruptr]

Originally Posted by Logan

Still waiting for a picture that shows Ryan 1000% didn't swing.

[molson]

I think that's more of an image than a picture.

[Crapshoot]

Those of you at home might want to turn on the COL-PIT game.

[Butter]

Way to jinx it.

[Lathum]

and now you can go back to The Price is Right

[k0ruptr]

Originally Posted by molson

I think that's more of an image than a picture.

I tried.

but I am still waiting for a picture that shows 1000% ryan did swing.

[Suicane75]

Man, that Pedro Alvarez has a pretty swing.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Man, that Pedro Alvarez has a pretty swing.

There's definitely been times when I've salivated over his swing. Where he looks like the dude you can pencil in to hit 35 bombs easily. But then he gets so unbelievably cold, and all his does is strike out. If he could ops .800, I'd love him regardless of whether he looks like Rob Deer. Bit I'm not holding my breath.

Bucco pitching keeps looking great, I can get behind that.

[TroyF]

Interesting game today in Pitt.

After three turns through the order, her are the stats for the Pirates 1-8 hitters:

1-3

A 2 out double by McCutchen and a HR by Alvarez. zero walks.

McDonald was simply dominant through 4 innings. In the fifth, he started to lose it. He hit Giambi. Walked the next guy on four pitches. Threw a ball 2 feet inside for ball one on Rosario. Rosario then shows why he's a young hitter and proceeds to hit McDonald's first strike of the inning straight to the SS.

The Rockies then blew a chance to get another guy in with Tulo on third and one out. They pay the price in a big way when Alvarez hits his blast to right center. The Rockies bullpen has struggled the last few games. . . they need to figure out a way to take this game. McCutchen leads off the bottom of the eighth. They don't get him, they'll lose the game.

[TroyF]

stevew,

Help me out here. The Pirates have one LHP in their bullpen. Tony Watson.

Everything I look at shows the guy to actually be someone who is brutal on righties and ok on lefties. Last night he came in to get one guy out and Cargo took him over the wall. Today he comes in to pitch to Colvin and the first pitch is the one thing they don't want, a fly ball to the OF.

Now he's going to face Cargo again with a guy on second.

I know he pitches leftie, but they really should have someone in that bullpen who specializes in getting LHB out.

[stevew]

You watched Hurdle before, right? It doesn't have to make sense. We just didn't spend money on a FA lefty and really don't have any in the farm. Maybe Locke or Moskos some day.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by stevew

You watched Hurdle before, right? It doesn't have to make sense. We just didn't spend money on a FA lefty and really don't have any in the farm. Maybe Locke or Moskos some day.

Yeah, I did watch Hurdle before. He can be very frustrating. The thing I never liked about him was how much he loved to tweak lineups. It was like an everyday thing when he was in Colorado.

The first thing Tracy did was simply put Cargo in the lineup everyday. He struggled like hell at first and then started to click. I'm honestly not sure Cargo would have ever broke out under Hurdle.

Game two starting now. Morton vs. Chacin. Chacin has looked pretty good in his last two outings. Will this be the game the Pirates score or give up 6 in a game?

[k0ruptr]

ChiSox and A's are 2nd and 3rd in the AL in team ERA. so far in there 3 game series game scores have been 4-0, 2-0 and now 2-2 in bottom of 12th today.

I'm NOT saying they are that team or are gonna make it that far, but so far this White Sox team reminds me a lot of 2005, but with better game management, and defense.

[dawgfan]

Bad news for Michael Pineda as he has a labrum tear. I feel really bad for the kid, because he's easy to root for and had a ton of potential, but this was not a shocker. When you look at his pitching motion, it just screams "injury in the making".

Hopefully he can eventually make it back, but even if he does, his arm is a ticking time bomb unless he revises his mechanics.

[stevew]

Obviously the Yankees should never deal with the Mariners again. The borderline bait and switch on the Cliff Lee trade. And now this.

[stevew]

Alvarez homers in both games today. Maybe I need to talk shit about him more often.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by stevew

Obviously the Yankees should never deal with the Mariners again. The borderline bait and switch on the Cliff Lee trade. And now this.

Yankees gave him a pre-trade physical, so they have only their doctors to blame.

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Yankees gave him a pre-trade physical, so they have only their doctors to blame.

And wasn't there warning signs like decreased velocity in hit last few starts? I know he didn't pitch as well the 2nd half of the season. With this news and the struggles of Hughes and Garcia, Andy Pettitte went from being a luxury to a necessity. The Yankees really only have 3 good starters right now and don't have Montero as trade bait.

[rowech]

Does Bochy bitch about everything? Bitched all last night. Bitched after the game last night. Bitching again tonight. Saw him bitching in a game this weekend.

[Suicane75]

I dunno, but he's a creepy looking fella.

[sterlingice]

Royals win! Royals win! 148-14 here we come!

SI

[tarcone]

Albert who?

[k0ruptr]

Way to jinx whitesox pitching k0r.

And may I say Fuck Yoenis Cespedes.

That guy is gonna break a lot of opposing teams fans hearts.

Son of a bitch.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

And wasn't there warning signs like decreased velocity in hit last few starts?

Eh, not really - nothing dramatic or out of the ordinary over the course of a season, especially for a young pitcher:

http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfxo.as...ion=P&pitch=FA

His tougher 2nd half was more likely due to the league getting more complete scouting reports on him, learning that besides his fastball, he didn't have a lot else that was working really well in his arsenal. He really needs to develop a change-up to give him another weapon against lefties.

[PilotMan]

Last week's late inning meltdowns against the Brewers have set up the Dodgers for this week's late inning meltdowns. I'm getting the feeling that these losses could be toxic. You win the game for 8 innings and then blow it in the end with walkoffs on the road and giveaways at home. It's just demoralizing for the team. These losses start to eat away at the confidence of the team.