WW CXXVI: Wolves in Asgard - Game Over (Result in Post 2538) - Page 29

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 12:38 PM

Can we try and sort out the business with the fake hammer. I got no information about Mjolnir being fake. I'm betting Telle will say the same. Unless the wolves are given more information about the fake hammer when they receive it then Hoops handing it to Chubby means that I trust Hoops more. Now we know that the (presumably) real hammer is out there I don't see anything sinister in the fake hammer at all. I think it is probably the item that isn't listed at the start and it was supposed to act as a slight bonus for the wolves. I can imagine people voting others for being liars if someone said that they had the Hammer on day two.

Personally I think J23 was the night kill target for night two and night three. Blocked on night two and killed night three.

JAG · 08-12-2011, 12:38 PM

Day 4 Voting as of post 1401:

Autumn 2 - hoopsguy (1395), Barkeep49 (1399)
Barkeep49 1 - Autumn (1348)
Thomkal 1 - Narcizo (1349)
hoopsguy 1 - EagleFan (1374)

Day 5 deadline votes:
3 for Monday
0 for Sunday

Just an FYI the D5 deadlines votes don't have to be in official format.

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 12:40 PM

Well, with (presumably) three votes out there on Autumn I'm happy enough leaving my vote where it is - don't want to pile on. I think mau and Bug deserve consideration as well.

Barkeep49 · 08-12-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Can we try and sort out the business with the fake hammer. I got no information about Mjolnir being fake. I'm betting Telle will say the same. Unless the wolves are given more information about the fake hammer when they receive it then Hoops handing it to Chubby means that I trust Hoops more. Now we know that the (presumably) real hammer is out there I don't see anything sinister in the fake hammer at all. I think it is probably the item that isn't listed at the start and it was supposed to act as a slight bonus for the wolves. I can imagine people voting others for being liars if someone said that they had the Hammer on day two.

Personally I think J23 was the night kill target for night two and night three. Blocked on night two and killed night three.

Hmm. Because of telle letting the hammer be randomly distributed don't we have issues with tracking which hammer came from where? Can we source the fake hammer back to telle? Cause if so I think that's pretty damning.

Lathum · 08-12-2011, 12:43 PM

vote Autumn

EagleFan · 08-12-2011, 12:45 PM

Thank you. Waiting to see who would jump along with me.

unvote hoops

vote BK

Barkeep49 · 08-12-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Thank you. Waiting to see who would jump along with me.

unvote hoops

vote BK

You realize I've already switched off him, yes? And part of the reason I looked his way that he was suggesting YOU might be a wolf...

EagleFan · 08-12-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

You realize I've already switched off him, yes? And part of the reason I looked his way that he was suggesting YOU might be a wolf...

I've been suspicious of you since early in the game to be honest. Yes, you backed off your vote after it was called out. That's not exactly something to hang one's hat on.

EagleFan · 08-12-2011, 12:49 PM

dola: And he said I may be a wolf on day one. Not since then? Someone always calls me a wolf on day one but that doesn't always make that person a wolf.

EagleFan · 08-12-2011, 12:50 PM

Finishing up lunch, will check back in later tonight. Not sure exactly when but probably not until after 8. Taking the daughter to the pool tonight.

Telle · 08-12-2011, 12:55 PM

I agree that we should put a little effort into tracking down the two hammers. Did they both exist from the beginning? With there being two hammers, I honestly don't know if the one Narcizo received and passed is the one I originally had or not.

Barkeep49 · 08-12-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

dola: And he said I may be a wolf on day one. Not since then? Someone always calls me a wolf on day one but that doesn't always make that person a wolf.

Actually he implies you've been converted in the same post I voted in. And just to be clear you think I'm a wolf despite having been strongly anti-Danny and the second vote on DV, and a vote which I never really considered moving?

Zinto · 08-12-2011, 01:05 PM

I think I am going to throw down a vote on Thomkal. He has a not so great voting record and more often then not Narcizo provides good analysis regardless of being a wolf or a villager. I have not been able to get my head around the game thus far and I am probably going to spend sometime today at least rereading day one so this may be just a place holder vote.

Vote Thomkal

hoopsguy · 08-12-2011, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Actually he implies you've been converted in the same post I voted in. And just to be clear you think I'm a wolf despite having been strongly anti-Danny and the second vote on DV, and a vote which I never really considered moving?

No, I'm just suggesting that until we have knowledge of there actually being a block (or wolves not submitting an action, I suppose) that the idea of conversation at the conclusion of Day 2 has to be considered.

If there was a conversion, it sure would make sense for EF and/or Chubby (probably in that order) to have been targets. But I also said that I don't think we need to go down that path just yet. For now, I'm happy to let our roled players give us information about block/no-block when they see fit.

jeheinz72 · 08-12-2011, 01:27 PM

Thomkal has been hittin the radar for me for awhile now, so I'll add to that one. Of course so has Autumn, but I don't see the benefit to doing that. Additionally, I've been trusting of (and yes, I know, following) Narcizo for awhile now. Ergo

Vote Thomkal

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 01:29 PM

I'd just like to say something about the way everyone seems to bandy around the fact that they're vanilla villagers nilly-willy. Can we cut that out please. Don't think it particularly matters at the moment because the major roles have gone but otherwise aren't you just helping the wolves find the roles? I realise that it's part of the culture to lie about it even if you have a role but I don't like the way people come out saying they're vanilla after a couple of votes have been thrown at them.

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 01:30 PM

Stop blaming me for voting Thomkal. It makes me very jittery.

hoopsguy · 08-12-2011, 01:34 PM

Narcizo, it sounds like you are sliding into an elevated WW paranoia level just in time for the weekend.

Deep breaths, it will be OK. You can do this. This isn't the chess game.

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 01:34 PM

Also I think we have a lot to gain if anyone who has had any dealings with the "other" hammer comes out and says so. I've just thought of something. What if it was Darth who had the "real" hammer and when he was lynched it wound up with Racer? So my initial idea of the wolves creating a fake hammer and keeping hold onto the real hammer could hold true.

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 01:35 PM

Which would lead me back to being suspicious of Telle.

hoopsguy · 08-12-2011, 01:36 PM

JAG, does the person that get lynched see their item assigned randomly? Or do they have any opportunity to pass items prior to the lynch?

I think I know the answer to this, but figured it was worth asking.

hoopsguy · 08-12-2011, 01:39 PM

I'm kind of skeptical of there having been another hammer earlier - just seems like we would have had some conflict around the lines of "what do you mean you passed the hammer to Player X? I had the hammer and passed it to Player Y!" We've had a couple of days for that to happen but I can't recall any conflict like that.

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 01:42 PM

I've looked back and there's no mention of an unlisted item - I got it mixed up with the unlisted role.

Hoops, if the wolves have been holding onto the hammer then that conflict wouldn't have occured.

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 01:44 PM

Telle is the only one to have mentioned having the hammer until now so I'm not sure that there would have been a conflict. Dunno really.

hoopsguy · 08-12-2011, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I've looked back and there's no mention of an unlisted item - I got it mixed up with the unlisted role.

Hoops, if the wolves have been holding onto the hammer then that conflict wouldn't have occured.

Agreed, that could have taken place. And there was no real reason, that I can see, for them to have been worried about what DV might have been holding based on previous day.

Of course, if he did have that kind of item then they would likely have had a little more incentive to try and keep DV alive yesterday. Making it more reckless for us to vote on the people early to the DV party ...

Do you consider it more likely that the item came into the game after the "fake" disappeared or that the wolves started with it and have kept it close?

Finally, do you (Narc) or anyone have records of people claiming items throughout the first few days? If we think the wolves are keeping a tight lid on their items, then maybe publicly declaring items becomes a small data point for trust. Certainly not a substantial one, but perhaps a tie-breaker for close calls.

JAG · 08-12-2011, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

JAG, does the person that get lynched see their item assigned randomly? Or do they have any opportunity to pass items prior to the lynch?

I think I know the answer to this, but figured it was worth asking.

This circumstance would be covered under Item Rule 3.:

Quote:

3. If you have an item and either you or the target you pass the item to is killed, or you fail to inform me to whom you're passing the item, the item will be distributed randomly.

jeheinz72 · 08-12-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Stop blaming me for voting Thomkal. It makes me very jittery.

Oh, didn't mean to blame. I take full responsibility for my own votes

jeheinz72 · 08-12-2011, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I'd just like to say something about the way everyone seems to bandy around the fact that they're vanilla villagers nilly-willy. Can we cut that out please. Don't think it particularly matters at the moment because the major roles have gone but otherwise aren't you just helping the wolves find the roles? I realise that it's part of the culture to lie about it even if you have a role but I don't like the way people come out saying they're vanilla after a couple of votes have been thrown at them.

Doesn't it basically behoove all 3 classes of people (VV's, Roled V's and Wolves) to claim vanilla, unless it's an actual/fake reveal situation?

I guess what I'm saying is, I can say I'm a vanilla villager until i'm blue in the face, but no one is going to buy that beyond the status quo, be they wolves or villager.

Ultimately, ones' play is going to be the sway of opinion

hoopsguy · 08-12-2011, 02:16 PM

Working on a research post, trying to accumulate a bunch of info in one place. Hopefully people can help fill in the blanks over the weekend after it is up. Will be keeping up with game while compiling, but probably not actively brainstorming in the thread.

Barkeep49 · 08-12-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Doesn't it basically behoove all 3 classes of people (VV's, Roled V's and Wolves) to claim vanilla, unless it's an actual/fake reveal situation?

I guess what I'm saying is, I can say I'm a vanilla villager until i'm blue in the face, but no one is going to buy that beyond the status quo, be they wolves or villager.

Ultimately, ones' play is going to be the sway of opinion

I agree with this. To me it's all in the game, even when you throw it out there regarding whether you're going to be lynched or not.

JAG · 08-12-2011, 02:29 PM

Day 4 Voting as of post 1430:

Autumn 3 - hoopsguy (1395), Barkeep49 (1399), Lathum (1405)
Thomkal 3 - Narcizo (1349), Zinto (1413), jeheinz72 (1415)
Barkeep49 2 - Autumn (1348), EagleFan (1406)

Day 5 deadline votes:
3 for Monday
0 for Sunday

Just an FYI the D5 deadlines votes don't have to be in official format.

jeheinz72 · 08-12-2011, 02:30 PM

Almost forgot - Monday deadline please.

hoopsguy · 08-12-2011, 02:34 PM

Items questions:
1.) Has anyone admitted to having the mistletoe today? It would have moved randomly when J23 was night-killed. I'm hoping that someone will admit to having it. Silence suggests that the wolves got it and can now "weaponize" it.
2.) Does anyone want to admit to having possessed Freyr's Magic Sword before today? I'm curious how it would have made its way to me, as I've had people admit to passing the first two items I obtained.

Thomkal · 08-12-2011, 02:39 PM

planned activites cancelled due to storms in the area. Catching up now.

Thomkal · 08-12-2011, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I don't think that's really true Barkeep. I think Lathum spent most of the day with his vote on Darth. It was only when Darth seemed to be losing momentum that he shifted to you. And the votes on you only really started to fizzle out when he moved his vote back to Darth.

God, if Lathum turns out to be a wolf I'm going to be so pissed off.

I won't after finding that stuff on him.

Thomkal · 08-12-2011, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Day 4 Voting as of post 1401:

Autumn 2 - hoopsguy (1395), Barkeep49 (1399)
Barkeep49 1 - Autumn (1348)
Thomkal 1 - Narcizo (1349)
hoopsguy 1 - EagleFan (1374)

Day 5 deadline votes:
3 for Monday
0 for Sunday

Just an FYI the D5 deadlines votes don't have to be in official format.

I voted Sunday, and not bold so maybe they should be in bold since you missed it

Lathum · 08-12-2011, 02:57 PM

Looks like the deadline will be Monday, but I am ok with either day. I leave for vacation tonight so I will be around regardless.

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Items questions:
1.) Has anyone admitted to having the mistletoe today? It would have moved randomly when J23 was night-killed. I'm hoping that someone will admit to having it. Silence suggests that the wolves got it and can now "weaponize" it.
2.) Does anyone want to admit to having possessed Freyr's Magic Sword before today? I'm curious how it would have made its way to me, as I've had people admit to passing the first two items I obtained.

1) Bug said that he received it 1314. Thinking about this, given that it could have wound up with anyone and we wouldn't know if it landed with a wolf I think this gives me decent trust for Bug.

2) I'm starting to think that we should take stock of all item movement up to day two or three at least. I can imagine that there might be some drawbacks to this but I'm curious about how the real hammer seemed to drop out of nowhere into Racer's hands. (Not implying suspicion of Racer here). The longer we go on the more people are going to die and the less full information we're going to be able to colate.

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 03:03 PM

I started the game with Odin's Spear. I handed it to J23. I think chances are it disappeared once Dubb was killed but I don't know.

Start of day two I got the (fake) Hammer. I passed the hammer to Hoops.

Barkeep49 · 08-12-2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

1) Bug said that he received it 1314. Thinking about this, given that it could have wound up with anyone and we wouldn't know if it landed with a wolf I think this gives me decent trust for Bug.

2) I'm starting to think that we should take stock of all item movement up to day two or three at least. I can imagine that there might be some drawbacks to this but I'm curious about how the real hammer seemed to drop out of nowhere into Racer's hands. (Not implying suspicion of Racer here). The longer we go on the more people are going to die and the less full information we're going to be able to colate.

I agree. I've had a very hard time getting a grasp on items this game but they seem really important and being able to track them equally important.

Racer · 08-12-2011, 03:09 PM

Looking at the vote history, Thomkol's looks pretty awful (maybe to awful). I know I was gun ho yesterday about knocking out Barkeep, but his doesn't look that bad. Autumn's doesn't look to good either, but not quite as bad as Thomkol. Therefore,

Vote Thomkol
Vote Sunday deadline

I'll look at things some more later.

Barkeep49 · 08-12-2011, 03:10 PM

I voted Monday deadline but I'm fine with a Sunday deadline. So perhaps I shouldn't have voted at all

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 03:14 PM

Wish I could hang around to see where some of the other people on my suspect list are voting. There seems to have been a big run on Thomkal, which makes me antsy, even if it is people I have some trust for. I'm hoping we don't get a two-horse race too early.

JAG · 08-12-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

I voted Sunday, and not bold so maybe they should be in bold since you missed it

Heh, alright, I'll go back and take a better look to be sure I didn't miss anything else. Thanks for the heads up.

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 03:18 PM

I've been getting a weird vibe off of mau - I don't think I've seen him address anyone so much as he's been talking to me. I'm wondering if the whole hammer thing was to set me up and mau has been laying the groundwork for that. I have a tough time getting a read on Telle because I don't think I've been in a game with her as a wolf. The whole hammer thing has me considering switching to her to get her involved in the voting. Thomkal's votes has legs so it's not like I'd be pulling the rug out from that candidate.

Narcizo · 08-12-2011, 03:25 PM

I nearly voted Telle but, perversely, the fact that she didn't vote Danny day two makes me a bit less willing to pull the trigger on that. If it turns out no-one has seen the hammer before Racer then I think we have to look at her again.

Thomkal · 08-12-2011, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Can we try and sort out the business with the fake hammer. I got no information about Mjolnir being fake. I'm betting Telle will say the same. Unless the wolves are given more information about the fake hammer when they receive it then Hoops handing it to Chubby means that I trust Hoops more. Now we know that the (presumably) real hammer is out there I don't see anything sinister in the fake hammer at all. I think it is probably the item that isn't listed at the start and it was supposed to act as a slight bonus for the wolves. I can imagine people voting others for being liars if someone said that they had the Hammer on day two.

Personally I think J23 was the night kill target for night two and night three. Blocked on night two and killed night three.

I think I'm in agreement with you there Narcizo. I was going over your vote counts from each day, and I was reminded of two votes for J23 that I thought were mildly suspicious at the time and maybe more so given what we now know about J23 and Chubby. Would you look back to what Racer and Zinto said when they voted him on day 2, and see how you feel about their votes and comments then based on our knowledge now? I'm not exactly trusting my deductive reasoning skills right now and don't want to put attention on something I very well might be wrong about and take away focus from finding wolves.

Thomkal · 08-12-2011, 03:28 PM

and I come back to find the two people I mentioned in the post to be voting for me now. Maybe I'm feeling better about my thoughts on them.

hoopsguy · 08-12-2011, 03:33 PM

Thomkal, build the case. The two you mention have been people I've spent a fair amount of time looking at in my little "research project" this afternoon. Lets see how the conclusions match up for you, me, Narcizo, and whoever else feels like taking a stab at this.

jeheinz72 · 08-12-2011, 03:35 PM

FWIW, both those two have pinged my radar at some point too. I was voting Racer early in the game. Zinto has just made some off comments/votes

I held back because well, we don't need me tossing out some crazy idea

08-12-2011, 12:38 PM	#1402
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Day 4 Voting as of post 1401: Autumn 2 - hoopsguy (1395), Barkeep49 (1399) Barkeep49 1 - Autumn (1348) Thomkal 1 - Narcizo (1349) hoopsguy 1 - EagleFan (1374) Day 5 deadline votes: 3 for Monday 0 for Sunday Just an FYI the D5 deadlines votes don't have to be in official format. Last edited by JAG : 08-12-2011 at 12:39 PM.

08-12-2011, 12:45 PM	#1406
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Thank you. Waiting to see who would jump along with me. unvote hoops vote BK __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

08-12-2011, 12:49 PM	#1409
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	dola: And he said I may be a wolf on day one. Not since then? Someone always calls me a wolf on day one but that doesn't always make that person a wolf. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

08-12-2011, 12:50 PM	#1410
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Finishing up lunch, will check back in later tonight. Not sure exactly when but probably not until after 8. Taking the daughter to the pool tonight. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

08-12-2011, 02:29 PM	#1431
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Day 4 Voting as of post 1430: Autumn 3 - hoopsguy (1395), Barkeep49 (1399), Lathum (1405) Thomkal 3 - Narcizo (1349), Zinto (1413), jeheinz72 (1415) Barkeep49 2 - Autumn (1348), EagleFan (1406) Day 5 deadline votes: 3 for Monday 0 for Sunday Just an FYI the D5 deadlines votes don't have to be in official format. Last edited by JAG : 08-12-2011 at 02:30 PM.

08-12-2011, 12:38 PM	#1401
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Can we try and sort out the business with the fake hammer. I got no information about Mjolnir being fake. I'm betting Telle will say the same. Unless the wolves are given more information about the fake hammer when they receive it then Hoops handing it to Chubby means that I trust Hoops more. Now we know that the (presumably) real hammer is out there I don't see anything sinister in the fake hammer at all. I think it is probably the item that isn't listed at the start and it was supposed to act as a slight bonus for the wolves. I can imagine people voting others for being liars if someone said that they had the Hammer on day two. Personally I think J23 was the night kill target for night two and night three. Blocked on night two and killed night three.

08-12-2011, 12:40 PM	#1403
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Well, with (presumably) three votes out there on Autumn I'm happy enough leaving my vote where it is - don't want to pile on. I think mau and Bug deserve consideration as well.

08-12-2011, 12:43 PM	#1405
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	vote Autumn

08-12-2011, 12:55 PM	#1411
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	I agree that we should put a little effort into tracking down the two hammers. Did they both exist from the beginning? With there being two hammers, I honestly don't know if the one Narcizo received and passed is the one I originally had or not.

08-12-2011, 01:05 PM	#1413
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	I think I am going to throw down a vote on Thomkal. He has a not so great voting record and more often then not Narcizo provides good analysis regardless of being a wolf or a villager. I have not been able to get my head around the game thus far and I am probably going to spend sometime today at least rereading day one so this may be just a place holder vote. Vote Thomkal

08-12-2011, 01:29 PM	#1416
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I'd just like to say something about the way everyone seems to bandy around the fact that they're vanilla villagers nilly-willy. Can we cut that out please. Don't think it particularly matters at the moment because the major roles have gone but otherwise aren't you just helping the wolves find the roles? I realise that it's part of the culture to lie about it even if you have a role but I don't like the way people come out saying they're vanilla after a couple of votes have been thrown at them.

08-12-2011, 01:30 PM	#1417
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Stop blaming me for voting Thomkal. It makes me very jittery.

08-12-2011, 01:34 PM	#1418
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Narcizo, it sounds like you are sliding into an elevated WW paranoia level just in time for the weekend. Deep breaths, it will be OK. You can do this. This isn't the chess game.

08-12-2011, 01:34 PM	#1419
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Also I think we have a lot to gain if anyone who has had any dealings with the "other" hammer comes out and says so. I've just thought of something. What if it was Darth who had the "real" hammer and when he was lynched it wound up with Racer? So my initial idea of the wolves creating a fake hammer and keeping hold onto the real hammer could hold true.

08-12-2011, 01:35 PM	#1420
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Which would lead me back to being suspicious of Telle.

08-12-2011, 01:36 PM	#1421
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	JAG, does the person that get lynched see their item assigned randomly? Or do they have any opportunity to pass items prior to the lynch? I think I know the answer to this, but figured it was worth asking.

08-12-2011, 01:39 PM	#1422
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm kind of skeptical of there having been another hammer earlier - just seems like we would have had some conflict around the lines of "what do you mean you passed the hammer to Player X? I had the hammer and passed it to Player Y!" We've had a couple of days for that to happen but I can't recall any conflict like that.

08-12-2011, 01:42 PM	#1423
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I've looked back and there's no mention of an unlisted item - I got it mixed up with the unlisted role. Hoops, if the wolves have been holding onto the hammer then that conflict wouldn't have occured.

08-12-2011, 01:44 PM	#1424
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Telle is the only one to have mentioned having the hammer until now so I'm not sure that there would have been a conflict. Dunno really.

08-12-2011, 02:16 PM	#1429
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Working on a research post, trying to accumulate a bunch of info in one place. Hopefully people can help fill in the blanks over the weekend after it is up. Will be keeping up with game while compiling, but probably not actively brainstorming in the thread.

08-12-2011, 02:34 PM	#1433
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Items questions: 1.) Has anyone admitted to having the mistletoe today? It would have moved randomly when J23 was night-killed. I'm hoping that someone will admit to having it. Silence suggests that the wolves got it and can now "weaponize" it. 2.) Does anyone want to admit to having possessed Freyr's Magic Sword before today? I'm curious how it would have made its way to me, as I've had people admit to passing the first two items I obtained.

08-12-2011, 02:39 PM	#1434
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	planned activites cancelled due to storms in the area. Catching up now.

08-12-2011, 02:57 PM	#1437
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Looks like the deadline will be Monday, but I am ok with either day. I leave for vacation tonight so I will be around regardless.

08-12-2011, 03:03 PM	#1439
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I started the game with Odin's Spear. I handed it to J23. I think chances are it disappeared once Dubb was killed but I don't know. Start of day two I got the (fake) Hammer. I passed the hammer to Hoops.

08-12-2011, 03:09 PM	#1441
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Looking at the vote history, Thomkol's looks pretty awful (maybe to awful). I know I was gun ho yesterday about knocking out Barkeep, but his doesn't look that bad. Autumn's doesn't look to good either, but not quite as bad as Thomkol. Therefore, Vote Thomkol Vote Sunday deadline I'll look at things some more later.

08-12-2011, 03:10 PM	#1442
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I voted Monday deadline but I'm fine with a Sunday deadline. So perhaps I shouldn't have voted at all

08-12-2011, 03:14 PM	#1443
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Wish I could hang around to see where some of the other people on my suspect list are voting. There seems to have been a big run on Thomkal, which makes me antsy, even if it is people I have some trust for. I'm hoping we don't get a two-horse race too early.

08-12-2011, 03:18 PM	#1445
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I've been getting a weird vibe off of mau - I don't think I've seen him address anyone so much as he's been talking to me. I'm wondering if the whole hammer thing was to set me up and mau has been laying the groundwork for that. I have a tough time getting a read on Telle because I don't think I've been in a game with her as a wolf. The whole hammer thing has me considering switching to her to get her involved in the voting. Thomkal's votes has legs so it's not like I'd be pulling the rug out from that candidate.

08-12-2011, 03:25 PM	#1446
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I nearly voted Telle but, perversely, the fact that she didn't vote Danny day two makes me a bit less willing to pull the trigger on that. If it turns out no-one has seen the hammer before Racer then I think we have to look at her again.

08-12-2011, 03:28 PM	#1448
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	and I come back to find the two people I mentioned in the post to be voting for me now. Maybe I'm feeling better about my thoughts on them.

08-12-2011, 03:33 PM	#1449
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Thomkal, build the case. The two you mention have been people I've spent a fair amount of time looking at in my little "research project" this afternoon. Lets see how the conclusions match up for you, me, Narcizo, and whoever else feels like taking a stab at this.

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