NFL Week 5

[Abe Sargent]

not a bad game here either

[Vince, Pt. II]

NBC, you are awful and evil. I was enjoying a 45 minute free trial of the game streaming online. With 5 minutes left, they cut my feed right after the touchdown by Hyde and asked me to put in my cable provider's information.

I don't have television, so I don't get to watch the final drive by Eli. Sigh.

[Groundhog]

Much better game for Kap overall. Good to see Hayne get some time at RB too.

[sabotai]

Eli...just get down.

[Groundhog]

Can totally see the Giants scoring a TD here...

[sabotai]

Refs mistake a hand signal from Eli to his receivers as a timeout...

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

Can totally see the Giants scoring a TD here...

Going to need a lot of luck (like they got right there) with Beckham and Reuben on the bench. They're going deep into their receiver depth chart on this drive.

[sabotai]

Nevermind, Beckham's back out there.

[Arles]

In the Green Bay game, that would have been a game ending INT. Luckily for the Giants, they had a different crew.

[sabotai]

And that is one of the reasons why I was so big on the Giants signing Vereen.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Vereen just seems like a guy that would make every single team in the league better.

[JPhillips]

If the Giants lose, there will be twenty teams with losing records after tomorrow's game.

[Abe Sargent]

ZANG

[Vince, Pt. II]

Sigh.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Sigh.

Collinsworth was all over it. How do you let Vareen beat you the entire drive?

[Groundhog]

Assuming no miracle, rough finish to the game, but a big step forward after the last couple of weeks for the Niners.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Since I no longer have a NFL franchise to follow, I am excusing myself from any further NFL Week threads.

Enjoy the season, fellas!

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I wouldn't have minded seeing a Pete Carroll reax shot after that last FG, considering the amount he was whooping it up in the third quarter.

Couldn't have happened to a better person.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Since I no longer have a NFL franchise to follow, I am excusing myself from any further NFL Week threads.

Enjoy the season, fellas!

It's not all bad! Take off your paper bag tinted goggles!

[TroyF]

OK, for the last couple of years I have gotten a ton of flack for my comments about the Kansas City Chiefs. I pointed out during their unbeaten start two years ago that it was mythical. The Chiefs D played a bunch of backup QB's and the Chiefs would falter once that luck stopped.

So, Chiefs fans, go ahead and give me crap for this:

The Broncos are a myth right now. They are 5-0 and they have a dominant defense. DOMINANT. (Much better than the Chiefs D that year) But their offense is putrid. (Much worse than the Chiefs O that year)

The 5-0 includes games vs the Ravens (1-4), Chiefs (1-4), Lions (0-5), Raiders (2-3) and Vikings (2-2). All but the Lions were one score games. The kicker and defense are currently responsible for 80% of the Denver points this year. No, that isn't a misprint.

This isn't a joke anymore. We are 1/3 through the season and there is no running game at all.Keep the defense honest? Well, you aren't doing that on 18 carries for 43 yards. If SD loses tonight, the division is already pretty much over. The playoffs? Ummm. . . how about no?

[Butter]

No offense, but I think most people agree that the Broncos are frauds among the 5-0 teams right now. But a team with a dominant D and Trent Dilfer at QB won a Super Bowl, so anything is possible.

[spleen1015]

Yep and wehn the Broncos win the Super Bowl, Manning becomes GOAT because he won another Super Bowl.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

No offense, but I think most people agree that the Broncos are frauds among the 5-0 teams right now. But a team with a dominant D and Trent Dilfer at QB won a Super Bowl, so anything is possible.

Hey, anything is possible. Maybe Denver figures it out and runs better. Maybe the defense is so good it won't matter. Maybe we'll get the refs from last weeks Seahawks game to gift us some football games.

The reality? The offense is not even close to average and I don't believe you'll win a title without some balance.

The other point, this is MY team. I think their frauds and I cheer for them. When I'm ripped on KC it was because I felt they were frauds, not because they were the Broncos rivals. Same thing applies here. I hope Denver wins the Super Bowl. I hope they sack Brady 50 times in a single game and Tom is screaming at his OLine for 60 minutes in January. The reality? That's just not going to happen.

With a decent offense, this defense might be historically great. This defense is going to wear down and when we play a team with true offensive firepower? We are going to get spanked.

[Kodos]

Hey Troy: Do you know why Cody Latimer is rarely seeing the field. I thought he had a good camp?

[Arles]

It's been 15 seasons since that Dilfer title. I'm not sure how relevant it is in today's NFL. With the rule changes, you need to be able to throw somewhat consistency - even with the best defense. Its been shown you can win without much pedigree at RB, but you need a top 10-5 QB in pretty much every case.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Yep and wehn the Broncos win the Super Bowl, Manning becomes GOAT because he won another Super Bowl.

Wouldn't that be ironic? That he probably is the GOAT, and is definitely in the conversation, and the one thing holding him back has been Super Bowls/postseason flameouts. For him to possibly win one as a game manager type QB would make me laugh hysterically.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Hey Troy: Do you know why Cody Latimer is rarely seeing the field. I thought he had a good camp?

He had an OK camp, not nearly as good as many of the national papers were saying. The rumor here is that he got into it a little bit with Manning about some pass routes which went over about as well as you would expect it to. He has a small injury now, but I don't think it matters. He's fallen to 5th in the WR pecking order. I don't see him seeing the field a lot this year unless we get a ton of injuries at that position.

[Kodos]

Yeah, I've seen him in on a couple of pass plays, and some special teams plays. It's too bad. He's a talented guy.

[Thomkal]

Hopefully he has as much of an impact as Chris Johnson has:

Arizona Cardinals add pass-rusher Dwight Freeney

[BillJasper]

Staph infections are nothing to mess around with...

NY Giants Tight End Daniel Fells Fighting Staph Infection; Doctors Hope to Save Foot - The Root

I had one on the back of my leg that took months to heal.

[PilotMan]

Look, if Vick can't pass, at all, and you can't rely on him, then put Jones in. At least he knows the offense better.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Look, if Vick can't pass, at all, and you can't rely on him, then put Jones in. At least he knows the offense better.

+1

Vick looks horrible out there. Question is: has Jones gotten any work with the first team?

[stevew]

Is Melvin Gordon wearing concrete boots? Once again he's looking awful.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

+1

Vick looks horrible out there. Question is: has Jones gotten any work with the first team?

Jones sucks worse than Vick.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by stevew

Jones sucks worse than Vick.

From what I've seen, not sure that is possible.

[BillJasper]

Philip Rivers is the biggest fucking crybaby in pro football.

[SirFozzie]

The NFL continues its tradition of trying to piss off everyone possible.

NFL Goes After Deadspin And SBNation Over Tweeted Vines And GIFs | TechCrunch

[Abe Sargent]

uh oh

[Abe Sargent]

Got to respect a run there by teh Steelers

[Pumpy Tudors]

A Steelers win with no time on the clock would be great, since that would shove it in the face of the clock operator in San Diego illegally running nearly 20 seconds off the clock after the Chargers kicked off at the start of this drive. I have no idea how nobody on the field noticed all that time running off the clock, but it looks like it could end up costing the Chargers a chance to win the game.

[bhlloy]

That's a crazy play call but it worked. Would think a Vick rollout with the option to gun it through the end zone after 2 seconds makes more sense there.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

The NFL continues its tradition of trying to piss off everyone possible.

NFL Goes After Deadspin And SBNation Over Tweeted Vines And GIFs | TechCrunch

I'm not sure why people are upset. Considering how much time each play actually runs for, how is a 6 second vine or gif different than showing a minute video clip? I enjoy consuming them because they're a quick roundup of important plays, but they're pretty clearly copyright infringement.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

That's a crazy play call but it worked. Would think a Vick rollout with the option to gun it through the end zone after 2 seconds makes more sense there.

Not if you watched the 2 4th and 2's from last week it wouldn't. Either way, it was a very ballsy call. Probably stupid too. An almost for sure fg blown, by a wildcat, goal line play, would have exploded talk radio in the Steel City this week.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Not if you watched the 2 4th and 2's from last week it wouldn't. Either way, it was a very ballsy call. Probably stupid too. An almost for sure fg blown, by a wildcat, goal line play, would have exploded talk radio in the Steel City this week.

If the game goes to OT what percentage chance would you give Pitt playing in SD? 50/50 at the best? San Diego came into the game as 4 point favs.

As long as you feel that playcall has a better than 50 percent chance of success it seems like a brilliant call to me. Youd have to assume any run play from the 6 inch line has more than a 50 percent success rate.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

A Steelers win with no time on the clock would be great, since that would shove it in the face of the clock operator in San Diego illegally running nearly 20 seconds off the clock after the Chargers kicked off at the start of this drive. I have no idea how nobody on the field noticed all that time running off the clock, but it looks like it could end up costing the Chargers a chance to win the game.

Right there in the play by play too

• 4-8-PIT 36 (2:59) 2-J.Lambo 54 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-M.Windt, Holder-5-M.Scifres.
• PIT 17 SD 20 Plays: 12 Possession: 4:46
• Pittsburgh Steelers at 02:56
• 2-J.Lambo kicks 65 yards from SD 35 to end zone, Touchback.
• 1-10-PIT 20(2:38) (Shotgun) 26-L.Bell left guard to PIT 27 for 7 yards (27-J.Wilson).

18 seconds for a Touchback?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Yep, the clock should never have run. I can't remember if they started the clock when the ball was kicked off or after it went through the end zone, but in either of those cases, it's wrong. Home cooking did not go San Diego's way right there!

[Pumpy Tudors]

So I watched it again, and they started the clock after the ball went through the back of the end zone. lol gg chargers

[stevew]

(0:14 - 2nd) Timeout #3 by SD at 00:14.
2nd and 1 at PIT 40
(0:14 - 2nd) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass short left to D.Woodhead ran ob at PIT 42 for -2 yards (J.Harrison)
3rd and 3 at PIT 42
(0:12 - 2nd) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass incomplete short left to D.Woodhead

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

As long as you feel that playcall has a better than 50 percent chance of success it seems like a brilliant call to me. Youd have to assume any run play from the 6 inch line has more than a 50 percent success rate.

(From pro-football-reference.com)

Run plays from the 1 yard line from 1994 to 2015 had a 54.6% chance of scoring a TD with a 3.3% chance of a fumble. This varies from team to team though. Pittsburgh, as it turns out, was the worst team in the league at this, with only 38.7% of their tries (42 out of 111 runs from the 1) scoring a TD, but also only fumbling once.

Link

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by sabotai

(From pro-football-reference.com)

Run plays from the 1 yard line from 1994 to 2015 had a 54.6% chance of scoring a TD with a 3.3% chance of a fumble. This varies from team to team though. Pittsburgh, as it turns out, was the worst team in the league at this, with only 38.7% of their tries (42 out of 111 runs from the 1) scoring a TD, but also only fumbling once.

Link

Well done and you found the information very quick