The Republican Party Headquarters Thread (No Dems Allowed!!)

[PurdueBrad]

NM, too public, wolves would know who they were. Bad idea.

[illinifan999]

So if the two parties, and the speaker can submit bills, then we could potentially have 2 bills to pass from our side, one from the party, the other from the speaker.

[PurdueBrad]

Yeah, if we get Speaker of the House, we could pass 2 bills. It's a huge advantage to get that spot.

[illinifan999]

And if we take the speaker role we could submit a Hunter type bill, where the person scans and if it's a wolf they have a certain percentage chance to kill the wolve/die in the attack or something along those lines.

[PurdueBrad]

So we have three big decisions:

Leader of the party
Liason
Presidential candidate

Unless I missed it, and I don't think anything has been finalized, here is what I'm thinking:

Leader of the party should actually be more on the conservative side in order to placate all of our constituents. The liason can be middle-conservative to mild-conservative, keeping the peace on the fringes. The presidential candidate, to have a shot popular vote-wise should probably be middle of the road conservative. If you ere too much towards the middle, we might win but irritate Republicans (see John McCain) or if we go too far right, we'll alienate the middle and likely lose. Anyone else?

[PurdueBrad]

NM, missed some posts obviously. So Pass/Tyrith are liason/leader, good start. I would say St. Cronin for Pres. as he's middle-conservative.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

NM, missed some posts obviously. So Pass/Tyrith are liason/leader, good start. I would say St. Cronin for Pres. as he's middle-conservative.

Thing about cronin is that he already has a vote for Speaker. We might want to slot him there.

[PurdueBrad]

Ahhh, I assumed that our leader would either be speaker or minority, my bad.

[jeheinz72]

Shouldn't Pres candidate be a tinge to the middle as he'll get votes from a broader perspective of Americans?

[PurdueBrad]

Damn, I really need to go back and re-read the rules set for a third time.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Shouldn't Pres candidate be a tinge to the middle as he'll get votes from a broader perspective of Americans?

Yeah, but you can't go too much, a la a McCain and piss off the base. That's why I would go somewhere from our middle four or five and leave off the outliers at both ends.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Shouldn't Pres candidate be a tinge to the middle as he'll get votes from a broader perspective of Americans?

That's my thought: Choose someone in the middle, have our leader throw all three Supports behind him -- (and throw one Slurry each at their three guys closest to the middle).

[jeheinz72]

Ok, so if I'm reading you guys correct, we'd want

Leader: Tyrith
Liaison: Pass
Speaker: Cronin
Pres Cand.: Mrs. S

That right? Or by middle do you mean like me (the most lib of the Repubs)

[illinifan999]

Was there any reason in particular Mrs. S voted for cronin before we really discussed it?

[PurdueBrad]

No Heinz, I could see that as a good start for us. You got it right by my definition of middle.

[jeheinz72]

I have no problem with the foursome I outlined above, FTR.

[jeheinz72]

FYI I really need to get some work done, so I'm likely gone for a few hours

[claphamsa]

ok, so we need to write a seer bill (I say we wait till the dems put forth theri BG bill (to ensure they make it nonpartisan) then ill write it!)

Who shoudl the cosponsors be? ideas>?

[PurdueBrad]

In the main thread, I said that I "could support" a bill that has the BG and seer up as random. Do we really want to risk that the seer ends up as a non-Republican given the power of the role?

I guess we would be rolling the dice in that we could get both roles on our side but at the same time, we could get none or lose seer and just get BG. Thoughts?

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

ok, so we need to write a seer bill (I say we wait till the dems put forth theri BG bill (to ensure they make it nonpartisan) then ill write it!)

Who shoudl the cosponsors be? ideas>?

Who needs to worry about popularity in their districts the most? This should be a slam-dunk bill that gets a boost to whoever sponsors.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

ok, so we need to write a seer bill (I say we wait till the dems put forth theri BG bill (to ensure they make it nonpartisan) then ill write it!)

Who shoudl the cosponsors be? ideas>?

If Mrs. S and cronin are going to be up for elections, I think they should have their names linked to the bill.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by illinifan999

Was there any reason in particular Mrs. S voted for cronin before we really discussed it?

I don't think so -- maybe she thought she wouldn't be able to catch up fully by deadline (even though she said she would be back before it). I think it's an okay vote, but I'll say again that we should try to collaborate before putting out votes early, since we don't want to unvote if we can help it.

[Passacaglia]

Since no one has objected, I'm putting my name in to CR for liaison. I think the rest can wait.

[illinifan999]

I do have work at 6EST so I'll need to know what actions/who I need to support before then.

[Passacaglia]

Sure thing, illinifan. It's looking like all you will have to do is choose what type of politican you are (PM that to CR), and vote for speaker in the thread (probably for cronin).

[st.cronin]

I only have a few minutes, can somebody please post a summary for me.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I only have a few minutes, can somebody please post a summary for me.

Yeah, here you go:

Liason is Pass
Leader is Tyrith
You are up for speaker
Mrs. S for Pres.

Our bill is for a seer role that goes to a random, non-wolf player
Dem's bill is for a bg role that goes to a random, non-wolf player

[st.cronin]

What do I need to do?

[PurdueBrad]

Choose what type of politician you are, via PM

And vote for yourself in the main thread and that is it I believe.

[Tyrith]

Okay, I don't see any real opposition to me being leader so I'm going to go ahead and assume that will be the case.

I would shade towards the middle a little more for our presidential candidate -- either illinifan or Render would be my pick, but Mrs. S would be okay too.

We need to come up with some riders for our seer bill. Either give the seer some chance to live through an attack (25-33%) or broadcast his info upon death.

I would encourage our more conservative members to vote against the BG bill on the understanding that we're going to let it pass. The people towards the middle of the road should probably be able to jump ship and show their bi-partisaness and be okay.

[RendeR]

I'm fine with being the presidential candidate if thats what y'all want. Not sure if it makes me a target or safer in the long run. I'm submitting a totally honest, popular style poitician for myself.

[Tyrith]

BTW, I have to leave in about 45-60 minutes and will not be back for several hours (this will not be a usual occurrence) so I'm going to submit my name as leader here in just a few minutes.

[illinifan999]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I'm fine with being the presidential candidate if thats what y'all want. Not sure if it makes me a target or safer in the long run. I'm submitting a totally honest, popular style poitician for myself.

Same goes for me, as I also submitted the totally honest, popular politician.

[Tyrith]

For the bill I'm going to announce our likely presidential candidates as cosponsors - Mrs. S for one, probably illini as the other. The dems used their 3rd and 5th from the center as their two cosponsors so they're probably thinking along the same lines we are.

[Passacaglia]

I wonder if we should go more centrist than Mrs. S, to hedge our bets, in case Chubby beats cronin.

[Tyrith]

We could do illini/Render. I'd like to be someone that can be around for the night phase regularly -- I know that's not heinz, and I'm not sure about those two.

[Tyrith]

And Pass, what's your recommendation on the extra bonus on our seer bill?

[illinifan999]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

We could do illini/Render. I'd like to be someone that can be around for the night phase regularly -- I know that's not heinz, and I'm not sure about those two.

I'm only scheduled to work tonight and I should be out of there at the latest 11EST, otherwise my nights are usually open.

[Tyrith]

Then I say we go with the illini/Render team as our potential candidates to talk about tomorrow. We have to decide by the end of the day and I'd be content either way.

[illinifan999]

We'll also have to decide what we want to do with our slurry/support powers or did we already and I missed it?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

And Pass, what's your recommendation on the extra bonus on our seer bill?

How about:

100% chance of killing target if scanned as a wolf
25% chance of staying alive if night-attacked

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by illinifan999

We'll also have to decide what we want to do with our slurry/support powers or did we already and I missed it?

My recommendation is to toss all three supports on our Presidential Candidate, and slurry three guys of theirs we think will run -- path, PF, and maybe Chubby?

[Tyrith]

BTW, I'm going to name Pass as Whip for today unless someone has any objections.

Support - our bill (will help all of us), illini, Render
Slurry - their bill, path, Packer

Help our candidates, hurt theirs.

[Tyrith]

Ah, they are cumulative. I'd say then all three supports should go on our candidates, yes.

[Tyrith]

I personally think that's too aggressive, Pass. Maybe like a 25 percent chance on both would be as aggressive as I'd want to get, but I'm being fairly conservative.

[Passacaglia]

25% on both is fine -- I just hate days when the seer has found a wolf, and we all just vote for the same dude

[claphamsa]

why slurry their bill?

we shoudl put all our slurry on chubby so Cronin wins.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

25% on both is fine -- I just hate days when the seer has found a wolf, and we all just vote for the same dude

Understandable. I'm going to go ahead and post the bill now, naming illini and Render as the co-sponsors, and naming you as whip, Pass, for the time being. I'm going to leave here in a minute and _might_ not be back until after the deadline.

Did you go ahead and talk to CR about liason? The Dems were asking in the public thread.

[Passacaglia]

I'm not sure about me as Whip. I already have a job, and I don't know about taking two, when some don't have any. Also, we both seem to be around in the daytime -- maybe you should choose someone who's around when we're not?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

why slurry their bill?

we shoudl put all our slurry on chubby so Cronin wins.

It's a Congressional vote, not a public one, so it won't matter. Although I don't know what happens in case of a tie, the presidential election is one we can't control.

The bill is a hedge -- my assumption is that it will hurt the popularity of everyone who votes for it, although we do have some aisle jumpers so that might not be the best idea. We could double up on path, I think he's the more likely presidential candidate, although they're probably thinking that, too.