Official College Football Week 4 thread

[I. J. Reilly]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

No kidding! Too bad his performance wasn'y enough, though.

Kudos to Oregon State. They played a hell of a game and proved Wisconsin wad no fluke. In fact, I believe we will look back on a few weeks and see that this win today wad in fact even more impressive than the Wisconsin win. I definitely underestimated the Beavs.

Missed opportunities for the Bruins. They are a young team. Hopefully they take this as a learning experience and get right back to it.

IJ Reilly, be proud of your team! I am thinking they may have something to say about how the Pac 12 North ends up this season.

On Hundley, I wasn’t completely sold on him until today. He showed a lot; OSU threw a couple of haymakers and Hundley led his team right down the field each time to answer, pretty impressive from a guy his age.

And as for the Beavs; -2 in turnovers with 90 yards of penalties on the road against the 19th team in the nation and we still lead the whole way. That’s pretty impressive. Who knows how many wins we will end up with, but with playmakers like Wheaton and Cooks we will have a shot at anyone.

And hey, with a little luck maybe we’ll see you again this year

Edit: And how do you celebrate the win if you're Oregon State? In-N-Out of course.
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[General Mike]

Originally Posted by miked

Unreal game for Nova so far.

Hope you made another bet with your wife.

[mckerney]

Thank god Syracuse keeps turning it over since Minnesota has struggled finishing drives against them.

[Matthean]

Missed FG by Auburn seals the win for LSU.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tennessee clinging to a lead at home against Akron. Now 33-26 with 12:30 left in Q4.

[miked]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Hope you made another bet with your wife.

I did but she's still upset about the GT choke today.

[mauchow]

The Big Ten is WIDE OPEN this year. Who's going to come out on top! WHAT AN INTERESTING STORYLINE!

[mauchow]

Wreckless football by Oregon, 4th and 2 on the 35 yard line in their own territory and go for it...

Really? I mean, really...?

Whatever, they'll win anyway bu tstill.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

The Big Ten is WIDE OPEN this year. Who's going to come out on top! WHAT AN INTERESTING STORYLINE!

Who's going to survive the Leaders division?

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Who's going to survive the Leaders division?

I was being sarcasticabout it being interesting because it truly will be a wide open conference as a whole. They all suck.

Wisconsin and Purdue will be the Leaders leaders, I presume. Michigan, Nebraska, MSU, dare I say Northwestern and Minnesota (lol...j/k) will battle for the Legends. Nobody stands out at this point.

[Matthean]

Having watched ND for the last two games, I'm amazed that team won both of them. Granted Michigan sealed its own fate but that has to be some of the most god awful offense I have seen from all teams involved. Unless a Big Ten team flips some massive switch, whoever the Big Ten champ faces in the Rose Bowl is going to get smoked by 20+. This has to be the worst of the main six conferences and being so on a rather large level.

P.S. Illinois is getting rolled 52-24 by LTU.

[Matthean]

OU falls to KSU 24-19 in Oklahoma.

[MrBug708]

Oregon and Arizona is awful football. The game is so fast, neither team can settle down.

Arizona is 0-4 on trips to the RZ. One muffed FG, one blocked FG, one turnover on downs, and another TO.

[Logan]

Wooooooooooooooooo!

Wow. There were so many points in tonight's game where I expected a typical Rutgers "moment". Instead, just kept firing back and making plays when they were needed. We gotta work on 3rd down play calling (not being too conservative) and have to get the frosh kicker sorted out, but damn I love this team.

Nova was unbelievable tonight.

[Young Drachma]

Wow. Nice job Rutgers.

Meanwhile, holy cow...Old Dominion's QB threw for 730 yards today against New Hampshire.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

Installing Denard Robinson as your quarterback is like handing the keys to a Lamborghini to Dale Earnhardt, Jr., only he's been up for the last 48 hours on a Red Bull and cocaine bender.

More like handing your keys to blind kid on a fast motoscooter.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by Logan

Wooooooooooooooooo!

Wow. There were so many points in tonight's game where I expected a typical Rutgers "moment". Instead, just kept firing back and making plays when they were needed. We gotta work on 3rd down play calling (not being too conservative) and have to get the frosh kicker sorted out, but damn I love this team.

Nova was unbelievable tonight.

The good thing about freshman is that they become sophomores. Anyway as far as kicker goes, Ito and Te both struggled early on and got better. Hell the disaster at Illinois in 2005 still haunts me.

[Lathum]

As a life long Rutgers fan this was maybe the most satisfying win I can recall. They showed such guts and Nova played out of his mind. Amazing they beat an SEC school on the road, this is going to be huge for recruiting. I grew up going to games in the 80's and 90's with my dad, I can't count the number of blowouts I witnessed against the likes of Miami and WVU. To see them win a game like this, and so obviously be the better team, is so gratifying.

[Lathum]

That had to be the strangest TD run I have ever seen in the Oregon game

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Having watched ND for the last two games, I'm amazed that team won both of them. Granted Michigan sealed its own fate but that has to be some of the most god awful offense I have seen from all teams involved.

ND has a great front 7, a couple TE's/WR's who can make 2-3 ridiculous catches a game on poorly thrown balls, and that's it - yet somehow that might qualify as a top 10 team now. I know we're not anywhere close to Alabama, and Miami/Pitt/BC aren't gimmes, but at the same time I don't see any reason we can't beat Stanford/Oklahoma/USC - all top 15 teams. God forbid we actually made it to the title game, because we'd get destroyed, but if we're a deserving (top 12) BCS team and not a "ND qualifies as #22 ahead of Louisville at #23 - they jumped 6 teams for TV ratings and got blown out by ACC #2" team, that's a nice building block.

Btw, if people haven't picked up on it, Manti Te'o is a beast. 36 tackles/3 picks in 4 games, at least 2 more forced ones tonight alone, and as much as I hate to bring it up, his grandmother and long-term girlfriend (from leukemia) passed away last week. I don't know if an inside linebacker can ever compete for a Heisman, but it's pretty impressive so far.

P.S. Illinois is getting rolled 52-24 by LTU.

To be fair, if LTU wins vs. A&M 10/13 they probably have the inside track on Ohio in the "we feel bad we never gave TCU or Boise a chance for the title - here play in the worst BCS bowl" sweepstakes.

[B & B]

Te'o is considered the best ILB in the game and a first round pick.

Jarvis Jones is considered the best OLB and a top 5 pick. (Actually #1 overall on two boards, including Mcshay)

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by B & B

Te'o is considered the best ILB in the game and a first round pick.

Jarvis Jones is considered the best OLB and a top 5 pick. (Actually #1 overall on two boards, including Mcshay)

I know Te'o was guaranteed 1st round last draft, which made it even more surprising he came back, but the question was always how much he would slip as an ILB - 16-28 was the guess, but who knows - it only takes one team (ask Jake Locker or Tim Tebow).

And fwiw, I like Jarvis Jones a lot, but if he goes top 5 that team screwed up. There's a ton of grey area with 3-4 ends/4-3 OLB's, but the last OLB worth a top 5 pick was whom, LT? Take reigning DPoY Terrell Suggs - drafted 10th overall, and I can find at least 5 players I'd rather have in that draft (2003 NFL Draft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) AJ, Polamalu, Kevin Willliams Osi, Lane Briggs.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Welcome the the SEC, Missouri.

I'm sitting in the Atlanta airport at the moment, heading to Columbia for work. Funny to be sitting around quite a few Mizzou folks, overhearing them talking about the culture shock of "sitting in a 90-degree stadium." It's more than a bit funny to think about that one. It wasn't even what we would call "hot" yesterday...

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I'm sitting in the Atlanta airport at the moment, heading to Columbia for work. Funny to be sitting around quite a few Mizzou folks, overhearing them talking about the culture shock of "sitting in a 90-degree stadium." It's more than a bit funny to think about that one. It wasn't even what we would call "hot" yesterday...

That is just plain stupid considering half the Big 12 was in Texas

[M GO BLUE!!!]

To be fair to Denard, the interception Smith threw wasn't his fault. It just looked about the same as any of Denard's 47 picks in the game.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I know Te'o was guaranteed 1st round last draft, which made it even more surprising he came back, but the question was always how much he would slip as an ILB - 16-28 was the guess, but who knows - it only takes one team (ask Jake Locker or Tim Tebow).

And fwiw, I like Jarvis Jones a lot, but if he goes top 5 that team screwed up. There's a ton of grey area with 3-4 ends/4-3 OLB's, but the last OLB worth a top 5 pick was whom, LT? Take reigning DPoY Terrell Suggs - drafted 10th overall, and I can find at least 5 players I'd rather have in that draft (2003 NFL Draft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) AJ, Polamalu, Kevin Willliams Osi, Lane Briggs.

If Rick Spielman is still the Vikings GM he will probably take Te'o no matter how high they're picking since he love taking Notre Dame players and reaching on players because they're the best available at a position of need.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

and collectively cusenation falls off the marrone bandwagon. classic case of nice guys finish last. sad

[panerd]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I'm sitting in the Atlanta airport at the moment, heading to Columbia for work. Funny to be sitting around quite a few Mizzou folks, overhearing them talking about the culture shock of "sitting in a 90-degree stadium." It's more than a bit funny to think about that one. It wasn't even what we would call "hot" yesterday...

Yeah uh I am not about to go defending the performance on the field for that stinker of a game but we play in like 100+ degree games almost every year to start the season and our road games were in Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, and Texas. Probably just bitching about hot weather but definitely not something new.

[MizzouRah]

That KST - OU game was great. Congrats to KST for beating a good team on the road.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

That KST - OU game was great. Congrats to KST for beating a good team on the road.

Does this launch them into the national title picture? They crushed Miami and now won at Oklahoma. They have to go to West Virginia and TCU and have a home game against Texas. But their only other road games are at Iowa State and Baylor``

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

If you saw GT's final offensive play yesterday, you may have been wondering (as I was) why there was an unengaged OL (RT I believe) seen just sort of drifting aimlessly to his right. Today's beat blog explains.

After a timeout to choose the play, Washington checked out of the called play — a quarterback follow — to a toss. After he made the change, Miami switched its alignment, putting two men over the right tackle. Figuring a toss play would not gain the first down, Washington decided to keep and lowered his head. He was met square by linebacker Eddie Johnson, a North Atlanta High grad who stonewalled Washington for no gain.

Reggie Ball, Jr strikes again. Checking out of the play call is one thing, deciding to forego what you just called in the audible without bothering to tell your line is a different matter.

edit to add:
RB2 adds a little more insight on the situation

“The play that was called was a quarterback follow, and I checked to the toss because they were all in the gaps like coach [Johnson] talked about before we walked off the sideline. When I checked it they moved back out, but I did not re-check it. I’m coached to not re-check it twice right there, so I just tried to get it on my own.”

Biggest play of the game, and what we saw is actually how it's taught? Srsly?

[JonInMiddleGA]

And while I'm "enjoying" the recaps after Saturday's debacles/near debacles, the little tidbit linked below catches my eye. Yeah, Tennessee's "big win" to open the season is looking slightly less impressive. Dear Lord, how bad will Georgia beat the Vols next weekend? Biggest offensive streak in the history of the school (40+ in 4 straight games for the first time ever) vs a defense that barely managed to contain Akron. The only hope of it not being a historic rout might be the fact that UGA doesn't have as good a coaching staff as Akron.

North Carolina State drops Savannah State 45-33 | www.ajc.com

[britrock88]

The paper dropped the headline there -- the school that beat Savannah State is North Carolina Central.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by britrock88

The paper dropped the headline there -- the school that beat Savannah State is North Carolina Central.

LOL, I didn't even notice. I found their version totally believable.

edit to add: I went back and looked, to be fair, the headline comes from AP (not the AJC). The body of the article even refers to them as North Carolina State, only indication otherwise would be where they cite the winners record in the MEAC.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

It's time to see what Berkstresser can do. Franklin can run, but can't pass worth shit.

Yeah, Pinkel hasn't had much of a QB controversy since he's been the coach. B. Smith, Daniel, and Gabbert have kept that position solid. The cries for Berkstresser are going to be strong both inside and outside the locker room. Yesterday wasn't even the defense's fault. The defense was making some big plays early on. At some point, the offense has to get some sustained drives together or the defense doesn't stand a chance. They run out of steam.

Good news is that we've faced our two toughest foes in the East now. We have Alabama at home, but the rest of the games are all winnable games.

Edit: Saw this posted over at Tigerboard from mubobby. Usually a poster with some good football info......

-Dysfunction in the locker room- Wish I could be more specific, but respect that I can not. Shouting matches by coaches, in front of players. Players had to be seperated (more than once). Lets say the players have a voice about a couple issues, lets also say somebody doesnt want to hear it. Im told by somebody who has seen alot of locker rooms, he has never seen anything like that. He also thinks these guys may finally be pissed enough to play some football, and a certain member of the staff is being watched very closely. May be losing some responsibility."

Would guess that Coach Yost is likely the one who may be moved. Wouldn't be surprised to see Pinkel yank the offensive playcalling and do it himself.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Does this launch them into the national title picture? They crushed Miami and now won at Oklahoma. They have to go to West Virginia and TCU and have a home game against Texas. But their only other road games are at Iowa State and Baylor``

SI

Maybe..

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Yeah, Pinkel hasn't had much of a QB controversy since he's been the coach. B. Smith, Daniel, and Gabbert have kept that position solid. The cries for Berkstresser are going to be strong both inside and outside the locker room. Yesterday wasn't even the defense's fault. The defense was making some big plays early on. At some point, the offense has to get some sustained drives together or the defense doesn't stand a chance. They run out of steam.

Good news is that we've faced our two toughest foes in the East now. We have Alabama at home, but the rest of the games are all winnable games.

Edit: Saw this posted over at Tigerboard from mubobby. Usually a poster with some good football info......



Would guess that Coach Yost is likely the one who may be moved. Wouldn't be surprised to see Pinkel yank the offensive playcalling and do it himself.

Couldn't agree more. They have to be able to pass and Franklin just doesn't possess the arm. That play where they hike the ball and he runs up the middle makes me want to smash my TV into about 4000 pieces.

[Logan]

Rutgers broke into both polls at 23/25.

[Easy Mac]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Yeah, Pinkel hasn't had much of a QB controversy since he's been the coach. B. Smith, Daniel, and Gabbert have kept that position solid. The cries for Berkstresser are going to be strong both inside and outside the locker room. Yesterday wasn't even the defense's fault. The defense was making some big plays early on. At some point, the offense has to get some sustained drives together or the defense doesn't stand a chance. They run out of steam.

Good news is that we've faced our two toughest foes in the East now. We have Alabama at home, but the rest of the games are all winnable games.

Edit: Saw this posted over at Tigerboard from mubobby. Usually a poster with some good football info......



Would guess that Coach Yost is likely the one who may be moved. Wouldn't be surprised to see Pinkel yank the offensive playcalling and do it himself.

To be fair. No one moves the ball on USC.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

To be fair. No one moves the ball on USC.

Except for East Carolina ... who put up over 400 yards total offense against them, but shot themselves in the foot repeatedly with turnovers.

For that matter, all three SC opponents so far recorded more yards total offense than Mizzou.

Just to be fair, of course

[Wolfpack]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

And while I'm "enjoying" the recaps after Saturday's debacles/near debacles, the little tidbit linked below catches my eye. Yeah, Tennessee's "big win" to open the season is looking slightly less impressive. Dear Lord, how bad will Georgia beat the Vols next weekend? Biggest offensive streak in the history of the school (40+ in 4 straight games for the first time ever) vs a defense that barely managed to contain Akron. The only hope of it not being a historic rout might be the fact that UGA doesn't have as good a coaching staff as Akron.

North Carolina State drops Savannah State 45-33 | www.ajc.com

Originally Posted by britrock88

The paper dropped the headline there -- the school that beat Savannah State is North Carolina Central.

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

LOL, I didn't even notice. I found their version totally believable.

edit to add: I went back and looked, to be fair, the headline comes from AP (not the AJC). The body of the article even refers to them as North Carolina State, only indication otherwise would be where they cite the winners record in the MEAC.

Thanks for the vote of confidence in our program, Jon.

I'm actually surprised this hasn't been mentioned anywhere on Pack Pride. Usually they go ape when they find this sort of thing in the press, claiming yet another slight of disrespect against our fair university. This more often happens as a result of press reports or game announcers leaving "State" off when they give the school name, so it winds up as yet another reference in the press for the rivals down the road. I've never seen State confused for NC Central, though.

State whopped The Citadel 52-14, by the way. Not that it matters much, but at least State didn't give up 33 points to Savannah State.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Thanks for the vote of confidence in our program, Jon.

Hey, it's at least as much a shot at UT as it was at State

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Except for East Carolina ... who put up over 400 yards total offense against them, but shot themselves in the foot repeatedly with turnovers.

For that matter, all three SC opponents so far recorded more yards total offense than Mizzou.

Just to be fair, of course

Agreed. A much more competent QB would have scored three touchdowns yesterday for Mizzou. It wasn't like there was blanket coverage going on. Franklin was a loose cannon. He was missing wide open receivers on some plays and outright ignoring them on others. I'm not saying Mizzou would have won, but having a QB who can find receivers and actually throw to their numbers wouldn't have hurt one bit.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Agreed. A much more competent QB would have scored three touchdowns yesterday for Mizzou. It wasn't like there was blanket coverage going on. Franklin was a loose cannon. He was missing wide open receivers on some plays and outright ignoring them on others. I'm not saying Mizzou would have won, but having a QB who can find receivers and actually throw to their numbers wouldn't have hurt one bit.

Wanna swap? I'll even throw in a 6th round recruit to go with Reggie Ball, Jr.
(We can bench Franklin & start the Vad Lee era a little earlier than expected)

[Ksyrup]

Not happy with FSU's D in the 1st half, but before the garbage TD at the end of the game, Boyd's 2nd half numbers made him look like Morgan Newton - 5-13, 0 yards, 1 INT. Watching FSU's offense put up nearly 700 yards despite running it into the line starting at about 7 minutes left was fun.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Agreed. A much more competent QB would have scored three touchdowns yesterday for Mizzou. It wasn't like there was blanket coverage going on. Franklin was a loose cannon. He was missing wide open receivers on some plays and outright ignoring them on others. I'm not saying Mizzou would have won, but having a QB who can find receivers and actually throw to their numbers wouldn't have hurt one bit.

MBBF is the gift that keeps on giving.

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Getting refocused. 27 hours until kickoff for Mizzou. Ready to see Franklin in action. I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Except for East Carolina ... who put up over 400 yards total offense against them, but shot themselves in the foot repeatedly with turnovers.

For that matter, all three SC opponents so far recorded more yards total offense than Mizzou.

Just to be fair, of course

Doesn't surprise me, our offense sucks!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

MBBF is the gift that keeps on giving.

Hoping for one thing and later having a realization that all is not as it should be is a shocking revelation to be sure.

[MacroGuru]

So the news this week is that BYU's starting QB has been playing with 3 cracked vertabrae that were sustained in the Weber State game.

Rumor has it that it is the transverse process...We will see if Hill or Lark step out on Friday against Hawaii.

[Julio Riddols]

The offensive play calling for Arizona in the Oregon game early on was frustratingly bad. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why a team would continue to try and run fancy shit like that at the goal line. Just line up in a big package and pound the ball right up the middle, man. All those missed opportunities killed the teams momentum, and by the second half their spirit had been broken. I can't help but think the game would have turned out much differently if they came away with points when they should have.