Dog kills cat, cat owner shoots dog, dog owner shoots 5 people. - Page 3

BrianD · 05-28-2009, 04:57 PM

New information which shouldn't be news:
1. The dog that killed the cat was a pit bull.
2. A guy who is willing to shoot a neighbor family feels the need to have a "man's dog" and isn't bright enough to train it properly.

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I was just wondering where the part about the location of the dog's attack on the cat came from.

Here's the Charlotte Observer version of the story but it also doesn't say where that happened either.

Around 11 p.m. Wednesday night, the sheriff's office says, a man's pit bull dog attacked and killed a neighbor's cat, and the cat's owner responded by shooting and killing the dog. Then, authorities say, the dog's owner got into an altercation with the neighbor, shooting him and his daughter.

A different version of the story by the same writer appears in the RaleighNews-Observer and adds this detail
Neighbors told reporters at the scene that the dispute actually goes back several months, when the dog bit a girl in the neighborhood.

I think it's pretty clear there was speculation only about the dogs location.

Boy am I shocked it was a pitbull that had an aggressive history. Like I said earlier, the dog was probably either aggressive or trained to attack. I would be very surprised if the pitbull was on it's own property when this happened.

Radii · 05-28-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

New information which shouldn't be news:
1. The dog that killed the cat was a pit bull.
2. A guy who is willing to shoot a neighbor family feels the need to have a "man's dog" and isn't bright enough to train it properly.

3. The dog had previously bitten a child in the same neighborhood.

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

3. The dog had previously bitten a child in the same neighborhood.

yeah, why is the dog even alive to cause another incident?

BrianD · 05-28-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I think it's pretty clear there was speculation only about the dogs location.

Boy am I shocked it was a pitbull that had an aggressive history. Like I said earlier, the dog was probably either aggressive or trained to attack. I would be very surprised if the pitbull was on it's own property when this happened.

..or just plain untrained.

sterlingice · 05-28-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

Holy crap. After reading through this thread I am not sure if I want to shot most of you or just shoot myself to end the pain.

Again, big disappointment from this thread. So much material to work with and this is what we get

SI

Bad-example · 05-28-2009, 05:22 PM

The idiot cat owner looks even more stupid with the revelation that it was a pit bull. The dog was most likely in his own yard when it killed the cat and when he decided to gun it down in cold blood. His decision put him and his family in mortal danger.

The guy owned a pit bull. What were the odds he had a gun in the house and was willing to use it in response to someone killing his dog? Survey says: pretty damned likely.

I have no pity for the dog owner. He shot a little girl and police officers. But for the cat owner not to expect return fire is stunningly stupid.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-28-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad-example

The dog was most likely in his own yard

Based on what? The sterling history of well behaved pit bulls?

Giving pits the benefit of the doubt is borderline Noop stupid (Noopid?)

Noop · 05-28-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Based on what? The sterling history of well behaved pit bulls?

Giving pits the benefit of the doubt is borderline Noop stupid (Noopid?)

Really?

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 05:32 PM

danger!

gstelmack · 05-28-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Based on what? The sterling history of well behaved pit bulls?

We're dealing with all kinds of irresponsible pet ownership here, barring the cat sneaking into the other neighbor's house or the dog sneaking into the cat owner's house.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-28-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Really?

RLY

Take heart, you are not alone in the world.

edit to add: Although that's really not a big revelation, around here it's not easy for you to be conspicuous, only your absolute best & most bizarro work really stands out any more.

Noop · 05-28-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

RLY

Take heart, you are not alone in the world.

You know what I know a lot of people let you slide with the shit you say but seriously you have no room to even talk. One more thing I know I am not alone because you are right there with me at least I acknowledge it.

CU Tiger · 05-28-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

So avenging your dog would be worth a lengthy jail sentence?

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Originally Posted by KWhit

niiiiiiiiice.

I hope my sarcasm wasnt lost in that post.....

Bad-example · 05-28-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Based on what? The sterling history of well behaved pit bulls?

Giving pits the benefit of the doubt is borderline Noop stupid (Noopid?)

Dogs most often tend to be restricted to their owner's property, be it by chain or fence. Dogs do get loose but the stories don't mention the dog running free. Until more details come available I find the most likely scenario to be that the cat went into the dog's yard and got caught.

Low blow there at the end. And funny, considering how many of your posts I have considered borderline 'Noopid'.

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I hope my sarcasm wasnt lost in that post.....

I reread it and thought you were probably joking, then I realized you are from South Carolina so you never know

TCY Junkie · 05-28-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I hope my sarcasm wasnt lost in that post.....

"minding his business...eating their cat and they shot him...BANG"
I was thinking to each their own until the above and then "he tricked me".

I like the term noopid, it is funny because he is unfairly bashed on more than others on here.

Tyrith · 05-28-2009, 05:56 PM

All I can say is that if someone's dog killed my cat, I'd kill the dog. And it deserved to die. I'm not saying that killing it would be the best way to handle the situation, but I think it would be fundamentally just. And I really doubt there is much of a case that can be held against the cat owner other than unlawfully discharging a firearm - a dog is a deadly thing, just like a gun is, and the dog - and therefore the dog owner - started it.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-28-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad-example

Dogs most often tend to be restricted to their owner's property, be it by chain or fence.

We must have lived in some pretty different places. I see as many token efforts as genuine ones.

Let's make no mistake, I am extremely critical of any pet owner -- dog, cat, bird, hamster, pot-bellied pig -- that allows their animal to encroach on anyone else's property. It's highly irresponsible and no good comes of it.

That said however, even in areas where dogs roaming are supposedly restricted by law, I've consistently have to deal with roughly the same number them in my yard as I do cats.

Now maybe the cats are just more discreet, and Lord only knows I'm more forgiving of them since I've never had anyone else's cat attack my or a family member in my own yard (something I can't say for other people's dogs) but my own experiences haven't shown dog owners to be any more responsible with their pets than cat owners.

And in fairness, I did single out your apparent faith in the dog/dog owner as being Noopid, not you in general. Just about anybody is entitled to the occasional moment of Noopidity, just don't make a habit of it

Sgran · 05-28-2009, 06:09 PM

Aggressive dog bites a kid. Tensions are high. Neighborhood is buzzing about the crazy guy who refuses to keep his dog on a tighter leash. Neighbor offers some free advice which the dog owner rejects. Little girl watches her cat get mauled by said dog, starts to cry. Dad loses it, goes inside for his gun (rifle? handgun?) and shoots the dog. Neighbor hears shot and returns fire, but he's a bit drunk and not used to his oversized handgun and his shots go off in all directions, striking the man and his daughter. Cops show up and the dog owner is holed up, refusing to give himself up. Violence spills into the street, shots are exchanged, 2 cops go down, man is shot to death. News of the event spreads and the violence continues on a website forum devoted to simulated football software. Where will it end??!!

Pumpy Tudors · 05-28-2009, 06:21 PM

This is all Daivd Winter's fault.

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sgran

Aggressive dog bites a kid. Tensions are high. Neighborhood is buzzing about the crazy guy who refuses to keep his dog on a tighter leash. Neighbor offers some free advice which the dog owner rejects. Little girl watches her cat get mauled by said dog, starts to cry. Dad loses it, goes inside for his gun (rifle? handgun?) and shoots the dog. Neighbor hears shot and returns fire, but he's a bit drunk and not used to his oversized handgun and his shots go off in all directions, striking the man and his daughter. Cops show up and the dog owner is holed up, refusing to give himself up. Violence spills into the street, shots are exchanged, 2 cops go down, man is shot to death. News of the event spreads and the violence continues on a website forum devoted to simulated football software. Where will it end??!!

I blame Noop, he started this thread

Bad-example · 05-28-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

We must have lived in some pretty different places. I see as many token efforts as genuine ones.

Good point. We see probably one loose dog a month here. Cats of course roam freely.

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad-example

Good point. We see probably one loose dog a month here. Cats of course roam freely.

Probably because cats don't usually attack children or dogs.

gstelmack · 05-28-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Probably because cats don't usually attack children or dogs.

Well, dogs don't usually attack cats or children either.

M GO BLUE!!! · 05-28-2009, 06:51 PM

What ever happened to dueling banjos?

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Well, dogs don't usually attack cats or children either.

then why do mailmen carry mace?

Bad-example · 05-28-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

then why do mailmen carry mace?

in case they meet orc

Noop · 05-28-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

then why do mailmen carry mace?

In case the husband comes home.

Travis · 05-28-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

then why do mailmen carry mace?

Ounce of prevention worth a pound of cure and all that.

I mean, one dog attack (if it's a big enough dog) is going to be a pretty bad day. Not a lot of people tend to have 20+lb cats for pets (and the one's I've run across aren't exactly "fit" if they're tipping the scales at over 20lbs).

Around where I live we rarely see dogs roaming free but we clean up after cats on our lawn very regularly. Sure that's annoying, but cleaning up after 20 cats is a lot less dangerous than facing one (insert large dog breed name here). Mailmen carrying mace in certain areas is likely much more necessary than others, but a smart idea for all I'd say.

Fidatelo · 05-28-2009, 07:22 PM

All this 'would you or would you not shoot the guy that shot your dog' talk is missing something very fundamental: What happened to just beating someone down?

Seriously, if someone shot my dog, and if I felt it was unjustified (read: my dog isn't a crazy-ass pitbull that just ate the dude's pet), I wouldn't go get a gun and shoot the fool. I'd simply give him an old fashioned beat down with my fists. And if he was bigger than me, I'd jersey him first.

fantom1979 · 05-28-2009, 07:23 PM

Cat attack = bad scratch, maybe an infection (get a bandaid)
Dog attack = death (get a casket)

cuervo72 · 05-28-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Based on what? The sterling history of well behaved pit bulls?

Giving pits the benefit of the doubt is borderline Noop stupid (Noopid?)

I get stoopid, I shoot an arrow like Cupid,
I use a word that don't mean nothin', like noopid

Kodos · 05-28-2009, 08:04 PM

JiMG and I rarely see eye to eye on much, but Noopid was brilliant.

Kodos · 05-28-2009, 08:09 PM

P.S. Yes, I'm aware that he likely considers me to be a Kodolt or Kodidiot.

DanGarion · 05-28-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

I love Mad Libs!!!

Ok, looking for 2 nouns, obviously, so I will answer with "banana" and "paper shredder".

"I don't think the death of anything should result in the death of anything more. Just because you kill my banana doesn't give me any right to kill your paper shredder."

LOL!!!

I'm with Pumpy that was epic!

JonInMiddleGA · 05-28-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

JiMG and I rarely see eye to eye on much, but Noopid was brilliant.

Thanks, I have to admit I was pretty happy with it. My only hesitation was that I couldn't believe that it hadn't already been used. It's so obvious & it just sings.

gstelmack · 05-28-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fantom1979

Cat attack = bad scratch, maybe an infection (get a bandaid)
Dog attack = death (get a casket)

Well, yeah. The original quote was about frequency, not result.

Noop · 05-28-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Thanks, I have to admit I was pretty happy with it. My only hesitation was that I couldn't believe that it hadn't already been used. It's so obvious & it just sings.

My name for you would get me IP banned.

DanGarion · 05-28-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sgran

Aggressive dog bites a kid. Tensions are high. Neighborhood is buzzing about the crazy guy who refuses to keep his dog on a tighter leash. Neighbor offers some free advice which the dog owner rejects. Little girl watches her cat get mauled by said dog, starts to cry. Dad loses it, goes inside for his gun (rifle? handgun?) and shoots the dog. Neighbor hears shot and returns fire, but he's a bit drunk and not used to his oversized handgun and his shots go off in all directions, striking the man and his daughter. Cops show up and the dog owner is holed up, refusing to give himself up. Violence spills into the street, shots are exchanged, 2 cops go down, man is shot to death. News of the event spreads and the violence continues on a website forum devoted to simulated football software. Where will it end??!!

Sgran for the win.

DanGarion · 05-28-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fantom1979

Cat attack = bad scratch, maybe an infection (get a bandaid)
Dog attack = death (get a casket)

Actually cat bites are quite dangerous. And haven't you ever heard of cat scratch fever?

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Probably because cats don't usually attack children or dogs.

Actually it's because no one gives a shit about the cats.

heybrad · 05-28-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

My name for you would get me IP banned.

PM it to me and I'll post it and take the hit. I've got to know.

This is one of the funniest, most interesting threads around this place lately.

MrDNA · 05-28-2009, 09:46 PM

So should I stop letting my tiger roam the neighborhood freely?

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 10:14 PM

hey Brad!

fantom1979 · 05-28-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDNA

So should I stop letting my tiger roam the neighborhood freely?

As mentioned earlier, cats are harmless.

RendeR · 05-28-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

These are not the only possibilities. Just because the dog killed the cat does not mean the dog was the aggressor. A cat is just as likely to attack a dog as a dog is to attack a cat. The dog could have simply been defending itself.

This is one of the most obviously stupid statements I have ever read from you. You're really not this ignorant of animal behaviour are you?

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I predict this thread gets ugly soon

It got ugly as soon as Noop tried to make an argument that the dog owner had any right to fire his gun.

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Originally Posted by Noop

Because you are a hypocrite.

And now we see why you're not in law school anymore....

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Holy crap. After reading through this thread I am not sure if I want to shot most of you or just shoot myself to end the pain.

Seriously, I'm with you here.

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Pumpy I am not sure what you're getting at? I agree with you for the most part.

And we flip flop yet again

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No I wondered if a judge would make the cat owner share some blame in what happened. Kind of like if I start a fight in a club and during the melee someone broke their arm I could be held responsible.

Yeah cause shooting PEOPLE is son on the level with shooting a dog thats attacked other PEOPLE before, let alone a cat.

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Then I somehow grossly misread this.

No we all just grossly misunderstood Noop, we thought he had a brain.

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Really?

Reeehheeeeeely.

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Originally Posted by Bad-example

Dogs most often tend to be restricted to their owner's property, be it by chain or fence. Dogs do get loose but the stories don't mention the dog running free. Until more details come available I find the most likely scenario to be that the cat went into the dog's yard and got caught.

This is North Carolina, the vast majority of the state has no "enforcable" leash laws. As you said though you're used to a different area of the country where they keep tighter reign on things.

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Probably because cats don't usually attack children or dogs.

DING!

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Well, dogs don't usually attack cats or children either.

LOLA ABAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahah!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Noop

My name for you would get me IP banned.

After some of your more recent threads/posts I'm beginning to think that wouldn't be a huge problem.

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Originally Posted by MrDNA

So should I stop letting my tiger roam the neighborhood freely?

No, Tigers are obviously just giant snuggly lovable creatures. So what if they swallow pit bulls whole? If the dog got near the tiger it apparently deserved to die.

RendeR · 05-28-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fantom1979

As mentioned earlier, cats are harmless.

See now, if I were the Tiger I'd have mauled their ugly fucking asses too. As a Tiger I deserve better than to be put on stage with those two elderly fucksticks.

Noop · 05-28-2009, 11:29 PM

Render you're a fat piece of shit. I got some words for anyone with a problem with me. PM me if you want to hear it.

CU Tiger · 05-28-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

LOLA ABAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahah!!!!!

So it is your position that dogs do generally attack cats and children?
Wow....75MM dogs as pets in the US and less than 5 mm annual reported attacks and your position is that dogs usually attack children and cats...

Wow....you should buy those powerball tickets

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05-28-2009, 04:57 PM	#101
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	New information which shouldn't be news: 1. The dog that killed the cat was a pit bull. 2. A guy who is willing to shoot a neighbor family feels the need to have a "man's dog" and isn't bright enough to train it properly.

05-28-2009, 05:22 PM	#107
Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	The idiot cat owner looks even more stupid with the revelation that it was a pit bull. The dog was most likely in his own yard when it killed the cat and when he decided to gun it down in cold blood. His decision put him and his family in mortal danger. The guy owned a pit bull. What were the odds he had a gun in the house and was willing to use it in response to someone killing his dog? Survey says: pretty damned likely. I have no pity for the dog owner. He shot a little girl and police officers. But for the cat owner not to expect return fire is stunningly stupid.

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05-28-2009, 05:56 PM	#118
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	All I can say is that if someone's dog killed my cat, I'd kill the dog. And it deserved to die. I'm not saying that killing it would be the best way to handle the situation, but I think it would be fundamentally just. And I really doubt there is much of a case that can be held against the cat owner other than unlawfully discharging a firearm - a dog is a deadly thing, just like a gun is, and the dog - and therefore the dog owner - started it.

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M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	What ever happened to dueling banjos?

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fantom1979 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sterling Heights, Mi	Cat attack = bad scratch, maybe an infection (get a bandaid) Dog attack = death (get a casket)

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