Civilization 7 announced

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

You're such a bad influence

My first impressions are more positive than I expected. There are new mechanics to learn but I think I'll be playing more than VI.

You're welcome and I'm glad you have a good first impression

[Schmidty]

I was bored at work tonight and buckled. I bought the Deluxe.

My first impressions after about 2 hours of play? It feels slow, ponderous, and much different than any other Civs that I've played over the years. Having said that, I'm also having fun with it. There are so many new things to learn and mess around with and as slow and clunky as seems, it still has me wanting to go one more turn. It's going to take a long time to get my money's worth, but I can see that happening down the road, especially after all of the ui patching and such.

[Edward64]

Thanks for your take

(and reminding me to download now)

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Nice, you guys are building up some memories that they'll remember for the rest of their lives.

Unfortunately, son never got into Civ or 4x games. After Pirates, he went on to RPG games like Fallout, CoD, Assassins series.

Take it FWIW. Son lives in a different state for work. One big regret is not playing multi-player with him so we can continue playing together, like on Fallout 76. So, if you get a chance, start doing that now so in the future you 4 will be able to connect even if you are spread out.

Totally. I'm imagining that when they move out, games like this will be the only way I'll have significant contact with them. I've actually barely played myself, but it's been fun to hear them say stuff like "we *need* to be friends with Harriet Tubman!" or arguing about what to build.

I'm thinking of trying to get started on that and setting up multiplayer games here at home. We have my current laptop, a switch, a PS5, then the new laptop soon. I think mentally I don't view them enough as independent entities yet to get a copy of the game for each of them, though. Maybe when the price goes down.

[Edward64]

Patch 1.0.1 is out.

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[Schmidty]

It feels like as the 3rd age ends, it’s a cluster fuck of clicking on the right thing hoping for the right result. I don’t like to just quit, but I’m coming close.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

It feels like as the 3rd age ends, it’s a cluster fuck of clicking on the right thing hoping for the right result. I don’t like to just quit, but I’m coming close.

I couldn't make it through a game for a similar reason, I'm going to put it on the shelf until they make more quality of life and depth changes I think. I can see what they were going for and I think there's potential for the changes to really work, but IMO it's not there yet.

[Edward64]

Civ 7 updates roadmap.

• Mar 4
• Mar 25
• April

"Additional UI Updates & Polish" highlighted on all 3

Update Check-In: Feb 27, 2025 | Civ VII

[Passacaglia]

I'm happy to see hotseat, even if it's in beyond, I'm just glad it's on a list.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

It feels like as the 3rd age ends, it’s a cluster fuck of clicking on the right thing hoping for the right result. I don’t like to just quit, but I’m coming close.

I'm in the same boat. Just not really doing much for me. Maybe with some updates and a DLC it'll be better but I can't get into it.

One thing I do like is how each Civ has its own civics tree to work from too. Always felt like the Civs were too close in previous versions and this helps differentiate them a bit more.

[Edward64]

Mar 4 patch is out.

For those playing, let us know how well it addressed the UI (and bug) stuff ... essentially, has it made a good/significant improvement on gameplay for you?

I've been reading solid patch but UI still needs work.

[Schmidty]

I’m about to start a new game to see if the patch is noticeable. Having read the patch notes, I’m not really confident that I’m going to notice anything unless I play toward the areas the patch addresses. It doesn’t seem like it strengthens the overall game, but we’ll see.

[HerRealName]

I had a few hours to play today and spent 10 minutes on Civ 7 and went back to Old World. I do think it will be good eventually but I'm not getting that 'one more turn' feeling on this one.

[Edward64]

I only played it a little at the beginning but knew I'd need to give the patches time to work things out. I've been checking out the forum to see what others have been saying.

One post highlighted that Steam recent reviews is actually "mostly negative (1,252)".

Anyone here still playing Civ 7? Is it a solid game now with all the patches? If not, I'll keep playing Civ 6 for now.

[SirFozzie]

I'm having fun. There are currently some bah-roken combos (watch Ursa Ryan's youtube series that highlights some of the more broken ones). but it's goodf for a game a day for me

edit to note: I'm using a set of mods including an AI mod, another that also unlocks larger map sizes and True start options ( I don't use the True start) and changes the UI a bit (I think that modder has already been hired by Firaxis.)

[Passacaglia]

A game a day?

[Flasch186]

Foz can you highlight those mods for me as to what they are?


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[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

A game a day?

Remember, I'm disabled/retired.. so I can sit and play through for 4-5 hours at a time (taking breaks for pain management etcetera)

(you can get the CivMods program from CivFanatics and these are the programs that I use)

City Hall
Resource Re-Sorts
RHQ Intelligent AI Mod
Enhanced Town Focus Info
Leonardfactory's Policy Yield Previews
TCS Improved Plot Tooltip
YNAMP (Larger Map, Continents ++ (Beta)
Sukritact's Simple UI Adjustments

Note: Sukiritact is the modder that Firaxis has hired.

[Passacaglia]

I didn't know that. Even so, how many hours does it take you to finish a game?

[RainMaker]

How's the end game in 7? That's what always drags me down with other versions.

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I didn't know that. Even so, how many hours does it take you to finish a game?

4-6 hours, but that's because I tend to play "SimCiv" early on (especially as the AI likes to start declaring wars on you early in exploration age, using the AI mod), and the Modern Age goes by quick because it's just a matter of seizing the victory condition that you want to go for, I've won several games on the default difficulty and one of two at Viceroy difficulty (Benjamin Franklin was so far ahead in science and culture, I called it a lot)

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

How's the end game in 7? That's what always drags me down with other versions.

dola: The age reset mechanic helps, but if you get way out in front, it's obvious how the game will end.

edit: Maybe tomorrow I'll do a twitch stream or something for folks to hang out at?

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

dola: The age reset mechanic helps, but if you get way out in front, it's obvious how the game will end.

Thanks for your feedback.

The reset of the ages was the biggest issue I read from those that didn't like Civ 7. All that work, and not enough "transferred" over to next age. Do you like this feature or preferred the old way.

[SirFozzie]

It's... a mixed bag. I get why it's there, and it does affect your decisions in the latter stages of an age. Since many buildings lose most of their potency in the switch between ages (they lose all adjacency bonuses in the next stage, so you have a reason to "overbuild" in the next stage, it becomes a decision of what to prioritize.

For example, take the Arena. it's a late stage-1 (Antiquity) Happiness building, but since it's fairly deep down the technology tree, by the time you unlock it, you end up only using it where absolutely necessary (let's say you have a city that's going into riots and destroying things (one of the late stage 1 crisises deals pretty harsh happiness penalties, and cities at negative happiness start rioting, destroying one improvement EVERY TURN (and if you don't fix it in 9 turns, will revolt and go over to another civ).. you end up only building them when absolutely necessary.

The age mechanic is probably needed just to provide things to build in every age.. since by the end of the exploration age you're ruynning out of places to build.

I do like that it allows somewhat of a course change if you find you're behind.. for example in the Benjamin Franklin game I mentioned above, I realized pretty much midway through the first age that Benjamin Franklin was a superpowerhouse, so I switched my Ashoka-World Renouncer (gets extra food from extra happiness) builld from Greece in the antiquity age (which gets bonuses to influence and work with city states) to Bulgaria (a more war focused build that gets bonuses to pillaging, where it's kinda like the Mongol Horde, all your towns get bonuses of food etcetera when you pillage an enemy tile. It allowed me to get back int he game somewhat, but Franklin went on a rampage in the distant lands, and was still out of reach ny the the end of an age.

[Edward64]

FWIW

Some stats on Civ 7, Civ 6 and Civ 5 at a-point-in-time.

Civilization 7 just hit a Mostly Negative rating on Steam | Windows Central

SteamDB has stats on PC player count, and while it's but a small part of the overall player base, I don't doubt that the drop-off is seen on other platforms.

At the time of writing, Civ 7 has 6,368 players in-game on PC, with an 8,679 player peak in the last 24 hours. That's a big drop compared to the 84,558 PC player peak seen at launch.

To put that into perspective, Civilization 6 currently has 32,046 PC players in-game right now. Civilization 5, which launched 15 years ago, currently has 12,429 players on PC.

[frnk55]

Originally Posted by Edward64

FWIW

Some stats on Civ 7, Civ 6 and Civ 5 at a-point-in-time.

Civilization 7 just hit a Mostly Negative rating on Steam | Windows Central

Kind of sad. For me Civ 5 is the best.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by frnk55

Kind of sad. For me Civ 5 is the best.

It's been a while, don't remember Civ 5 much but am, for the most part, happy with Civ 6. So, in no hurry to play Civ 7.

I'll probably wait until the DLC for the "era after the modern times". Have to believe that it'll have more tweaks to the era transition process and mostly functionally complete.

[Edward64]

New Civ 7 update today. Update notes below

Update Check-In: June 10, 2025 | Civ VII


The most important part to me is below. Glad to see they are taking the age transitions seriously.

... we also hear that some of these features haven’t landed quite as we'd hoped in their current implementation. Specifically, here are a few recurring themes we’ve seen in player feedback:

• Age Transitions can feel abrupt
• Game replayability needs more depth
• There's room for improving the player's sense of empire identity and continuity throughout a multi-Age campaign

These are significant areas of the game that are incredibly important to get right, but are more complex to solve. Addressing this feedback in a satisfying way will take time, over the course of several updates. That said, you’ll start to see some smaller changes in July focused on end of Age countdowns and improvements to Age Transitions. For the longer-term and broader changes, we’ll share more detailed plans here when we’re ready. We’re invested in making these changes and empowering you to enjoy what sets Civ VII apart.

[Thomkal]

Should be a new update out this week(?) that gives you the option of staying with the same civ for the whole game, you know like a regular game of Civ?