2014-15 NFL Offseason Thread (Non Draft Edition)

[stevew]

I could see docking Hardy a significant amount of game checks but he already served 14-15 games last year.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by stevew

I could see docking Hardy a significant amount of game checks but he already served 14-15 games last year.

Agreed. The guy is a douche, but he's already did his time.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by stevew

I could see docking Hardy a significant amount of game checks but he already served 14-15 games last year.

He was on the commissioner's exempt list. He still got paid.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Grover

He was on the commissioner's exempt list. He still got paid.

That would be why you dock him a significant number of game checks.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

That would be why you dock him a significant number of game checks.

Yes.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

I am guessing this is allowed in the new personal conduct policy. Either way, I think this is the move for the Commish moving forward. Suspend over the top and let an arbiter reduce the punishment.

The punishment also came from whoever that woman was that was hired to task up this new office within the league.

Oh and an over the top punishment for this POS would be for him to have each finger and toe ripped off slowly before being left to rot in a prison cell. An arbitrator could reduce from there to something more appropriate.

[Thomkal]

Sports Illustrated: The Chargers are taking Marcus Mariota | San Diego Sun Times

[QuikSand]

Hmmm... that doesn't read like it has any actual news, like confirmation of a trade. It's just one lazy newspaper citing another dinosaur "publication" who did a mock draft like everyone else.

Let's exhale here.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by stevew

I could see docking Hardy a significant amount of game checks but he already served 14-15 games last year.

I don't get how anyone thinks these guys served anything last year. Unless I am mistaken they weren't docked any pay and have one less year of wear and tear on their bodies. Seriously "suspend" me for a year with full pay from my job. On top of that I would assume there would be a major issue with Carolina paying him for last season vs Dallas having to pay him for this year. This guy is a major POS and isn't in jail because of a payoff, zero sympathy if he had to sit out the entire season.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Hmmm... that doesn't read like it has any actual news, like confirmation of a trade. It's just one lazy newspaper citing another dinosaur "publication" who did a mock draft like everyone else.

Let's exhale here.

I actually agree with you Quik. But I thought it worth mentioning it given the upcoming draft. We'll soon see if it happens or not. Given his history with young QB's, I'm sure Whisenhunt would prefer Rivers over Mettenberger anyway.

[panerd]

So a coworker supposedly is friends with a member of the St. Louis Rams personnel who was told today to start looking for houses in LA.

1) Not even sure if this is news
2) Not sure if this is true

But word from him is that the deal is done.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by panerd

So a coworker supposedly is friends with a member of the St. Louis Rams personnel who was told today to start looking for houses in LA.

Better make that studio apartments given the difference in cost of living between LA and St Louis.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by panerd

So a coworker supposedly is friends with a member of the St. Louis Rams personnel who was told today to start looking for houses in LA.

1) Not even sure if this is news
2) Not sure if this is true

But word from him is that the deal is done.

Maybe said person is being traded ?

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by panerd

So a coworker supposedly is friends with a member of the St. Louis Rams personnel who was told today to start looking for houses in LA.

1) Not even sure if this is news
2) Not sure if this is true

But word from him is that the deal is done.

Season isn't over until January. Seems a little early to be looking for houses in the new market.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by panerd

So a coworker supposedly is friends with a member of the St. Louis Rams personnel who was told today to start looking for houses in LA.

1) Not even sure if this is news
2) Not sure if this is true

But word from him is that the deal is done.

If the team had told personnel to prep for a move, and said personnel were sharing that info with friends, it would be all over the news/social media.

I totally think that it is right of you to pass it on in a message board thread. That's what these are for. But I also don't think that it's true.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Arles

Better make that studio apartments given the difference in cost of living between LA and St Louis.

It's like my brother's company in Pittsburgh is getting strip mined and bought out and they do have a SF division that he could theoretically transfer to, but the pay differential is something like 20-25% which means that he could basically just get an apartment in SF for his entire salary.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

If the team had told personnel to prep for a move, and said personnel were sharing that info with friends, it would be all over the news/social media.

I totally think that it is right of you to pass it on in a message board thread. That's what these are for. But I also don't think that it's true.

If you like blankets of speculation, you would have loved the LeBron to Cleveland madness that was going on last summer on my forums.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by panerd

I don't get how anyone thinks these guys served anything last year. Unless I am mistaken they weren't docked any pay and have one less year of wear and tear on their bodies. Seriously "suspend" me for a year with full pay from my job. On top of that I would assume there would be a major issue with Carolina paying him for last season vs Dallas having to pay him for this year. This guy is a major POS and isn't in jail because of a payoff, zero sympathy if he had to sit out the entire season.

Hey, I probably agree with you, but the NFL is trying to just do what they want to on the fly. And I'm not even a gun person but the "scary assault rifles" bit from the league is hilarious because surely he would have received all kinds of weapons charges, but of course they were all entirely legally purchased.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Class move by Dwayne Bowe.

Dwayne Bowe pays respect to Chiefs 'angel' with final kiss - KCTV5

[miami_fan]

So what you are saying is it's too soon?

Greg Hardy, Cowboys teammate fight after 'woman beater' comment - SBNation.com

Hardy can't be that sensitive if he expects to last this season.

[miami_fan]

Dion Jordan of Miami Dolphins suspended for entire 2015 season for violation of NFL's substance abuse policy

My squad my squad. I am so looking forward to this year's draft screwup

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Dion Jordan of Miami Dolphins suspended for entire 2015 season for violation of NFL's substance abuse policy

My squad my squad. I am so looking forward to this year's draft screwup

Jeff Ireland's final "Fuck You" to Miami.

I hated that fucker.

[chinaski]

Gah these are so gooood. If the NBA had helmets....
http://imgur.com/a/P4Ape

[stevew]

I enjoyed them, but felt like there were way too many takes on the Eagles type helmet. Just a slight criticism. I think a run of NFL style jerseys for the NBA fandom to wear in the stands could probably be pretty successful.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Dion Jordan of Miami Dolphins suspended for entire 2015 season for violation of NFL's substance abuse policy

My squad my squad. I am so looking forward to this year's draft screwup

It willl probably be DE Shane Ray or Randy Gregory, with drug problems of their own

And what a waste of space Jordan has been.

Glad to see he's not appealing, probably against the players union's wshes

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

It willl probably be DE Shane Ray or Randy Gregory, with drug problems of their own

And what a waste of space Jordan has been.

Glad to see he's not appealing, probably against the players union's wshes

Not surprised if against the union's wishes. They seem to believe that no player can ever be guilty and if by chance one is, then there should be no punishment.

[SteveMax58]

Originally Posted by chinaski

Gah these are so gooood. If the NBA had helmets....
http://imgur.com/a/P4Ape

They look good but some of them are a little weird.

Like the Raptors looks like a Maple Leaf and the Rockets look like they should be the Sharks or something.

[Kodos]

I thought the Raptors one was pretty brilliant.

[Radii]

Cam Newton gives a lesson on play calling and audibles | Watch the video - Yahoo Sports

Video is totally worth watching. Both interesting and Cam Newton is entertaining as hell.

[SirFozzie]

Deflategate report is out:

No conclusive evidence but concludes "more probable then not" that Pats people deflated balls.

https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com...championsh.pdf

[Subby]

The two guys in the text messages are hilariously aggrieved. BRADY: Hey, can you guys deflate some balls for me? GUYS: THIS FUCKIN' PRICK.

— Drew Magary (@drewmagary) May 6, 2015

[Subby]

Text message exchange between two Pats employees about Tom Brady & getting his footballs ready. Damn. pic.twitter.com/oGBksapACj

— Jimmy Traina (@JimmyTraina) May 6, 2015

[Subby]

Usually if Im reading about how many pounds per square inch a QB needs I just assume its about Brett Farve chubbing up for a sext

— PFTCommenter (@PFTCommenter) May 6, 2015

[ISiddiqui]

Jeez, those text messages between Jastremski and McNally are pretty bad... I'm assuming they've been fired already?

[ISiddiqui]

Here the conclusion about the Colts game:

Based on the evidence developed in connection with the investigation and summarized in this Report, we have concluded that it is more probable than not that New England Patriots personnel participated in violations of the NFL Playing Rules and were involved in a deliberate attempt to circumvent those rules. In particular, we conclude that it is more probable than not that Jim McNally and John Jastremski participated in a deliberate plan to circumvent the rules by releasing air from Patriots game balls after the examination of the footballs by NFL game officials at the AFC Championship Game. We believe that McNally and Jastremski were aware that the inflation level of the Patriots game balls following pre-game inspection by the game officials would be approximately 12.5 psi and planned for McNally to deflate the balls below that level following the pre-game inspection using a needle provided by Jastremski. Based on the evidence, we also have concluded that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls. 73

We do not believe that the evidence establishes that any other Patriots personnel participated in or had knowledge of the violation of the Playing Rules or the deliberate effort to circumvent the rules described above. In particular, we do not believe there was any wrongdoing or knowledge of wrongdoing by Patriots ownership, Head Coach Belichick or any other Patriots coach in the matters investigated. We also do not believe there was any wrongdoing or knowledge of wrongdoing by Patriots Head Equipment Manager Dave Schoenfeld.

[ISiddiqui]

Also:

We nevertheless believe, based on the totality of the evidence, that it is more probable than not that Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls. Evidence of Brady‟s awareness appears in text communications between McNally and Jastremski.

[Draft Dodger]

still don't care

[Subby]

[SirFozzie]

yeah, they still have jack and squat.

[ISiddiqui]

LOL, oh you Pats fans.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Jeez, those text messages between Jastremski and McNally are pretty bad... I'm assuming they've been fired already?

I assumed they were a joke. Are those real?

[Grover]

The Hilarious, Brady-Bashing Texts Sent By The Pats' Ball-Deflators

Allegedly very real.

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

LOL, oh you Pats fans.

Same thing I've been saying, if something happened Brady knew it and he deserves the shit he gets. I didn't and still don't think anyone above Tom knew. I thought Tom was going to own up to it before his bullshit press conference and I can pull up my own posts stating that.

But yeah, other than those txt messages(assuming they are real), this whole report is pretty much useless it would seem. Final result is "More probable than not Brady was at least aware". Yeah, that's a pretty damn confident statement of guilt.

We are basically at the same point now as we were after the game.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by jeff061

We are basically at the same point now as we were after the game.

The Pats cheat on a rather consistent basis and Brady is a douche.

Yeah, that's pretty much where we were alright.

[Subby]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

yeah, they still have jack and squat.

Christ. At least Simmons owns being a homer.

The Wells Report should have ended with a recap of Brady going 37 for 50 for 4 TDs with properly inflated balls in the Super Bowl.

— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) May 6, 2015

I AM IN FULL HOMER MODE!!!!!

— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) May 6, 2015

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Final result is "More probable than not Brady was at least aware". Yeah, that's a pretty damn confident statement of guilt.

You do realize that "more probably than not" is the definition of "preponderance of the evidence"? And preponderance of the evidence is the standard we use in the vast majority of civil trials.

[jeff061]

Ha, I may be a homer. But I'm all for Brady being hung out to dry for lying in his press conference. Everything from those texts seems to support what I thought went down between Brady and some underling. He should have owned up to it immediately.

It really isn't that big of a deal, but when he lied he guaranteed the zoo continued and that he ended up looking even worse. So let him deal with the consequences.

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

You do realize that "more probably than not" is the definition of "preponderance of the evidence"? And preponderance of the evidence is the standard we use in the vast majority of civil trials.

I'm not debating semantics. I wanted details, you should have as well. Wells is pocketing who knows how much money for that crummy conclusion that everyone had already jumped to.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I assumed they were a joke. Are those real?

I thought they were a joke as well

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by jeff061

I'm not debating semantics. I wanted details, you should have as well. Wells is pocketing who knows how much money for that crummy conclusion that everyone had already jumped to.

So you didn't read the report then? I mean its not 243 pages (including appendices) because he's throwing around cliches. There are tons of details in the reports - excruciating detail at that.