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Old 07-28-2008, 05:53 PM   #1701
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Vote Yes on SARPSA

I will hold off on my censure vote until this evening.
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Old 07-28-2008, 05:58 PM   #1702
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Old 07-28-2008, 05:58 PM   #1703
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Old 07-28-2008, 05:59 PM   #1704
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:02 PM   #1705
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Well gents, I'm outta here. Catch ya tomorrow.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:06 PM   #1706
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I humbly accept my parties nomination as speaker and as a centrist will work together to create bills that will allow us to eliminate the wolf party.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:06 PM   #1707
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:16 PM   #1708
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:26 PM   #1709
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I humbly accept my parties nomination as speaker and as a centrist will work together to create bills that will allow us to eliminate the wolf party.


yeah well, good luck with that, I've been going round and round with the powers that be and I don't any of us succeeding along these lines.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:41 PM   #1710
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:42 PM   #1711
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:48 PM   #1712
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OK guys, there has been a lot going on in the past couple hours with questions regarding bills and whatnot. I've been talking with CR and this is what he has come up with as a solution:

"“I have received some PMs about frustration over the bills and their role in the game going forward, and I have decided it might be best to make a change—if you’re all up for it.

I was hoping to encourage out of the box thinking, but I understand the frustration. I said from the beginning that the public would not like an idle Congress and also suggested that there would be limits to how much power was allowed before the public and Supreme Court got a little wary.

The inference should have been that taking too much power at the start might result in exactly this situation. You guys went to town, passing plum roles with extra features, and maximizing your power from the start. Ideally, you should have worked on smaller roles with less power, or concentrate on rules changes before you were up against it with respect to power. Perhaps I should have made that more clear, because it seems obvious now no one carped to it. If so, I apologize for not being clearer.

Here is my solution, and it’s a one time offer: the public in the end only really cares about catching wolves. Many of the bills have had their impact, but it’s the wolf vote that really runs the election results. The bills add creativity, but I can see it has passed its fun stage and gone to pointless tedium (sadly). So I will do away with them if Congress (majority) agrees to this: the roles currently in place remain as is, and the wolves get one more rider (which maxes their power, and puts everyone on more or less even footing).

This then moves toward a two faction wolf game with roles in place and some wolf riders. You still have to worry about elections, but that’s it. Well, and catching wolves."

The bill will be called "The Bills Be Gone Bill"
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:52 PM   #1713
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The Repblican propose:

CEO Automatic Repeal Protector

Sponsor: Passacaglia, RendeR

The Congressional Executive Oversight Act shall be repealed.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:52 PM   #1714
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:52 PM   #1715
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PLEASE NOTE THAT APPROVING THE BILLS BE GONE BILL WILL INVALIDATE THE SARPS BILL...

IF YOU DO NOT APPROVE THE BILLS BE GONE BILL, IT IS NOT A PROMISE/GUARANTEE THAT SARPS WILL BE APPROVED BY THE SUPREME COURT.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:53 PM   #1716
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Idea with this is that the CEO Act is nothing more then a brutal wolf clause. We can't repeal part of a law, which makes getting rid of the cunning wolf difficult, but the CEO Act is nothing but a brutal wolf clause, and should be repealed.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:59 PM   #1717
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vote yes to bill be gone
vote yes carp
vote yes sars
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:03 PM   #1718
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vote yes carp
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:30 PM   #1719
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:33 PM   #1720
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:34 PM   #1721
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vote yes to bill be gone
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:35 PM   #1722
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PackerFanatic strikes me as much more wolfish, as he started the votes on me and has been a power whore, whereas mccollins could have legitimately gotten stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time -- not that I trust him.

VOTE YES CARP
VOTE YES BILLS BE GONE

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Old 07-28-2008, 07:36 PM   #1723
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VOTE NO TO BILL BE GONE

I think we can still do damage here. We can get rid of the brutal wolf with the CARP, and chesapeake and I have been talking about ways to get rid of the cunning wolf.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:39 PM   #1724
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And, btw, to the moderator, I think a village trying to put in a BG, seer, and a spy in a big game is, well, exactly what you should suspect, because these are roles along the lines that we see in the small games. To expect us to spend our time messing around with podunk stuff to match expectations we had no clue about is unfair to us, I believe.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:42 PM   #1725
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IIRAC didn't we mostly nerf the cunning rider out of relevance a couple of days ago?
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:44 PM   #1726
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IIRAC didn't we mostly nerf the cunning rider out of relevance a couple of days ago?

No, apparently we worded it poorly.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:59 PM   #1727
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:59 PM   #1728
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:01 PM   #1729
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:06 PM   #1730
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Vote YES Bill Be Gone

watching a movie with the gf, tho I snuck away to check in
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:08 PM   #1731
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:10 PM   #1732
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:11 PM   #1733
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BTW, everyone, I am here now, if anyone needs anything specific addressed.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:13 PM   #1734
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And, btw, to the moderator, I think a village trying to put in a BG, seer, and a spy in a big game is, well, exactly what you should suspect, because these are roles along the lines that we see in the small games. To expect us to spend our time messing around with podunk stuff to match expectations we had no clue about is unfair to us, I believe.

Yeah, that's why I was the one apologizing. I don't believe I spelled it out well enough, and I may have had unrealistic expectations.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:22 PM   #1735
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vote packer
yes carp
no bill be gone
assuming all future bills turned down by sc include entire bill including rider
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:27 PM   #1736
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:31 PM   #1737
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Come on, people. We can take away a brutal wolf rider now, or we can GIVE them a rider? Why are we voting yes on this?
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:32 PM   #1738
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Anyway, I hope you guys are putting KWhit up for President.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:33 PM   #1739
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No, actually we're not, assuming I'm not electable (too liberal)
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:34 PM   #1740
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F that. You're the only villager totally cleared, and the President can't be night-killed.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:37 PM   #1741
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I'm thinking that if KWhit runs against me, he'll likely win -- I'm one of the least popular guys in Washington, and almost as extreme as him. If you want, you can slurry me some, too.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:38 PM   #1742
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Not to say that the Republicans have chosen me as the candidate. We haven't discussed it at all.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:41 PM   #1743
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well its official, I have no idea what is going on anymore.

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Old 07-28-2008, 08:43 PM   #1744
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Vote Yes SARPS Act
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VOTE YES CARP
VOTE YES BILLS BE GONE

Wolf Vote count please
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:45 PM   #1745
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I have PF up 7-4.
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:00 PM   #1746
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Tense deadline.
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:01 PM   #1747
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vote packer
yes carp
no bill be gone
assuming all future bills turned down by sc include entire bill including rider

I can't count the bill be gone vote. No conditionals can be added to the vote. I am counting you as having no vote at the moment.
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:02 PM   #1748
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:19 PM   #1749
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Today's votes

Bolded votes are for multiple district votes

WOLF

mccollins-D (4)-- PackerFanatic-D (1634), PurdueBrad-R (1635), illinifan999-R (1650), Render-R (1651)
PackerFanatic-D (8)-- Passacaglia-R (1653), chesapeake-D (1670), KWhit-D (1690), Chubby-D (1692), jeheinz72-R (1693), Tyrith-R (1722), henry296-D (1735), Lathum-D (1743)

SPEAKER

PackerFanatic-D (2)-- PackerFanatic-D (1586)
Render-R (9)-- jeheinz72-R (1644), Render-R (1645), illinifan999-R (1646), Passacaglia-R (1647), Tyrith-R (1663), PurdueBrad-R (1664)
henry296-D (7)-- Chubby-D (1702), chesapeake-D (1704), henry296-D (1707), Lathum-D (1710), KWhit-D (1729), mccollins-D (1744)

SAFEGUARDING AGAINST REDUNDANT PROTECTIVE SERVICES ACT

PASS (15)-- KWhit-D (1688), jeheinz72-R (1689), Chubby-D (1691), Lathum-D (1696), illinifan999 (1697), Render-R (1699), chesapeake-D (1700), henry296-D (1701), Passacaglia-R (1711), PurdueBrad-R (1717), mccollins-D (1744)
FAIL (1)-- Tyrith-R (1720)

CEO AUTOMATIC REPEAL PROTECTOR
PASS (10)-- Passacaglia-R (1714), PurdueBrad-R (1717), illinifan999-R (1718), Tyrith-R (1722), henry296-D (1735), mccollins-D (1744)
FAIL (0)-- None
BILLS BE GONE BILL
The bill to end all bills
PASS (6)-- PurdueBrad-R (1717), Lathum-D (1721), Tyrith-R (1722), KWhit-D (1728), Chubby-D (1730), mccollins-D (1744)
FAIL (1)-- Passacaglia-R (1723)


Starting the writeup right now. So let me know if something looks funky.
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:21 PM   #1750
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