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CU Tiger · 05-16-2018, 01:01 PM

dishwasher/clothes washing machine, both use inductive motors. Same characteristics.

The dryer thing changes things a bit. Typically your dryer chasis is grounded by connection to the groundED conductor (not the groundING conductor) if you have a chasis connection to groundED conductor a GFI breaker (AFCI) will trip every time. The wiring creates a theoretical short between ground and neutral.

Now there are some nuance differences between Arc Fault and Ground fault. I dont want to be throwing those around interchangeably.

Bottom line, if its a new home - it has a warranty - they need to get out there and fix it.

Coffee Warlord · 05-16-2018, 02:11 PM

Oh, I've already pinged them to come out and take a look.

And thus far, both machines plugged into the other outlet in the laundry room has not tripped the breaker.

Coffee Warlord · 05-17-2018, 04:23 PM

The saga continues. Guy came over, tested the outlets, and basically told me "thanks to the new code, that's just gonna happen". I told him in no uncertain terms that was not acceptable. Being unable to operate a washer and dryer is Not Okay.

"Well, about the only thing you can do is replace the breaker with one that's not up to code".

"Okay, so who do I talk to to do that?"

"...let me chat with my boss."

We'll see.

Fucking annoying.

CU Tiger · 05-17-2018, 04:33 PM

Have you engaged the builder/GC?

If they are no help, call the electrical inspector himself. They love to hammer contractors who blame "the code" for their incompetence...

Coffee Warlord · 05-17-2018, 04:36 PM

That WAS the builder.

Thomkal · 05-21-2018, 10:48 PM

Since its graduation season, this seems appropriate:

404 Not Found

miami_fan · 05-22-2018, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Since its graduation season, this seems appropriate:

404 Not Found

Maybe it is against the decorator's beliefs to write that word. Here is my gripe though.

Quote:

"It's fine for us to be compensated for the cake. We're just happy that our son graduated school and has a bright future," said Cara Koscinski.

If you were compensated and you are just happy for your son's achievement and bright future, WHY IS THIS IN THE NEWSPAPER?!

stevew · 05-22-2018, 01:07 PM

Oh homeschooling..

Coffee Warlord · 05-22-2018, 02:04 PM

My son's field day at school today. The Thunderbirds were out practicing for the Air Force Academy graduation tomorrow, they buzzed the playground a couple times. Didn't get any good pictures, but was still cool.

NobodyHere · 05-22-2018, 05:08 PM

I need to talk to more Indian(the non native American kind) people or something. I feel like I bombed a job interview because I couldn't get around one of the interviewers thick Indian accent.

CU Tiger · 05-22-2018, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I need to talk to more Indian(the non native American kind) people or something. I feel like I bombed a job interview because I couldn't get around one of the interviewers thick Indian accent.

I sympathize.

I am hard of hearing anyway (legally deaf in 1 ear and only 70% function in my good ear) but I can typically function great with a combination of attention and a little lip reading. I've got one client however who is Indian, and he's a super good guy and super smart. But all of our interactions are painful because I cant understand him. I end up asking him to repeat himself 10x each.

NobodyHere · 05-22-2018, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I sympathize.

I am hard of hearing anyway (legally deaf in 1 ear and only 70% function in my good ear) but I can typically function great with a combination of attention and a little lip reading. I've got one client however who is Indian, and he's a super good guy and super smart. But all of our interactions are painful because I cant understand him. I end up asking him to repeat himself 10x each.

I do better with lip reading too but this was a phone interview.

Kodos · 05-22-2018, 07:00 PM

I struggle with many accents.

Buccaneer · 05-22-2018, 07:43 PM

I sympathize too. I have 100% loss in one ear and 40-60% loss in the other. I work in IT and have the most problem with Asian Indian accents to the point I tend not to communicate with them (I don't have to much anyway). Other Asians and Europeans not much of a problem if I listen carefully, though I would have to add American Southerners to the problem list as well.

stevew · 05-23-2018, 02:34 AM

I pick up a lot of foreign students. It's kind of weird when they'll be conversing in their native tongue but then Express something in English and then go right back to their native tongue. I assume some expressions/ideas in English just don't Translate well to other foreign languages?

Warhammer · 05-23-2018, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I pick up a lot of foreign students. It's kind of weird when they'll be conversing in their native tongue but then Express something in English and then go right back to their native tongue. I assume some expressions/ideas in English just don't Translate well to other foreign languages?

I discovered the same thing when I was in Germany earlier this year. They would be going full speed in German, then you hear something in English, then they go right back into German without missing a beat.

cartman · 05-23-2018, 10:21 AM

I noticed this when I was living in Italy. Some English phrases just get used. One example is 'weekend'. That was used quite a bit, when there 'fine settimana' is the proper Italian to use. A lot of computer terms used are English as well.

Coffee Warlord · 05-23-2018, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I sympathize.

I am hard of hearing anyway (legally deaf in 1 ear and only 70% function in my good ear) but I can typically function great with a combination of attention and a little lip reading. I've got one client however who is Indian, and he's a super good guy and super smart. But all of our interactions are painful because I cant understand him. I end up asking him to repeat himself 10x each.

Most accents I have very little trouble with, but the Indian accent is the one that just kills me, every time. I simply cannot parse it.

CU Tiger · 05-23-2018, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Most accents I have very little trouble with, but the Indian accent is the one that just kills me, every time. I simply cannot parse it.

same

Coffee Warlord · 05-23-2018, 12:58 PM

Heh. Electrical fun update.

In a move that surprises no one, they tried a few things, then replaced the breaker with an older, non arc fault breaker. And gasp, it's not tripping anything. They didn't have a tester with them for the units themselves, so they're gonna come back at some point to test the washer/dryer.

Edward64 · 05-29-2018, 01:41 PM

Roseanne, I am hoping the rest of your life is miserable.

Wanda Sykes quits 'Roseanne' after Barr's Twitter rant

albionmoonlight · 05-29-2018, 01:51 PM

In a bar watching First Take with the sound off.

Max Kellerman’s job is literally to sit there and pretend to look interested while SAS rants.

And you know what? He’s really good at it. Staring into a camera for minutes on end, not talking and not looking like a goober isn’t as easy as it looks.

ISiddiqui · 05-29-2018, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Roseanne, I am hoping the rest of your life is miserable.

Wanda Sykes quits 'Roseanne' after Barr's Twitter rant

And ABC just canceled Roseanne:

‘Roseanne’ Canceled at ABC – Variety

molson · 05-29-2018, 01:59 PM

Back to politics I guess.

Edward64 · 05-29-2018, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

And ABC just canceled Roseanne:

‘Roseanne’ Canceled at ABC – Variety

That is fantastic.

I'm sure there are things I disagree and agree with her on but, man, that was just bad. How stupid and/or arrogant are you to think you can say something like that ...

miami_fan · 05-29-2018, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Back to politics I guess.

I am guessing she will pop back up on Fox in 2019.

NobodyHere · 05-29-2018, 02:36 PM

Just from watching cable news coverage of Roseanne's tweet, I can only conclude that no one has ever insulted anyone before. The way they talk about it you'd think she had participated in the Holocaust or something.

I'm not a fan of the tweet myself but some people need to get off their pedestals.

ISiddiqui · 05-29-2018, 02:41 PM

Are you seriously saying that calling a black woman an ape is just another insult? Seriously?

NobodyHere · 05-29-2018, 02:43 PM

Insults are suppose to hurt, that is the point. And I already said I'm not a fan of the tweet.

larrymcg421 · 05-29-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Just from watching cable news coverage of Roseanne's tweet, I can only conclude that no one has ever insulted anyone before. The way they talk about it you'd think she had participated in the Holocaust or something.

I'm not a fan of the tweet myself but some people need to get off their pedestals.

Stop.

ISiddiqui · 05-29-2018, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Insults are suppose to hurt, that is the point. And I already said I'm not a fan of the tweet.

Racism is ok if its an insult? Cause you know that's why it hurts here.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-29-2018, 02:47 PM

I'd have to consciously rediscover what the p.o.s. in question looks like to pass judgement on the tweet.

And I can't remotely find myself caring enough one way or the other to do that.

NobodyHere · 05-29-2018, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Racism is ok if its an insult? Cause you know that's why it hurts here.

Now you're just putting words in my mouth.

larrymcg421 · 05-29-2018, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Now you're just putting words in my mouth.

How so? Either you don't know that the tweet is racist or you're saying people are overreacting to a racist tweet.

ISiddiqui · 05-29-2018, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

How so? Either you don't know that the tweet is racist or you're saying people are overreacting to a racist tweet.

Yeah. I'm a bit dumbfounded here. I think he probably doesn't realize that calling black folks apes is racist insult.

miami_fan · 05-29-2018, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Just from watching cable news coverage of Roseanne's tweet, I can only conclude that no one has ever insulted anyone before. The way they talk about it you'd think she had participated in the Holocaust or something.

I'm not a fan of the tweet myself but some people need to get off their pedestals.

Sepp? Is that you?

NobodyHere · 05-29-2018, 02:54 PM

I never said racism is ok and I said I'm not a fan of the tweet.

miami_fan · 05-29-2018, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I never said racism is ok and I said I'm not a fan of the tweet.

Can you please clarify then?

I have not seen any of the cable news coverage so maybe they are people on there suggesting she receive the death penalty. If that is the case, then yes I agree, those people need to get off their pedestal.

If the cable pundits are comparing it to yo momma jokes however...

Edward64 · 05-29-2018, 04:28 PM

I think he said

1) Insults are okay
2) He is not okay with racism

I infer that he doesn't think this specific "insult" was that bad

Therefore

1) He doesn't think the insult rises to the level of racism?

ISiddiqui · 05-29-2018, 04:40 PM

A weird take when someone makes a joke than an African-American woman descends (partially) from apes.

Thomkal · 05-29-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

And ABC just canceled Roseanne:

‘Roseanne’ Canceled at ABC – Variety

And just two weeks ago they were celebrating her #1 ratings too. Cue Fox News and a Donald Tweet about in 3,2,1...

molson · 05-29-2018, 05:33 PM

It is kind of strange that this is front page national news, maybe that's what he's getting at. I mean, even here, it's not worthy of its own thread. Does that mean we don't think this was a big deal? Or was this so great a tragedy as to appropriately dominate the news outlets? Yes, there's a lot going on but damn it, that mentally ill racist sitcom star said something else terrible, stop the presses!

I wonder if this was the most expensive tweet in the history of twitter. This was a big show (which I had no idea of until today, so, thanks news outlets, I guess.)

stevew · 05-29-2018, 06:13 PM

Kendall Jenner dissing snapchat had something like a 1bn market valuation*

*I just read this, have no idea how true it was.

Can't we start new threads here btw?

JonInMiddleGA · 05-29-2018, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew

Kendall Jenner dissing snapchat had something like a 1bn market valuation* *I just read this, have no idea how true it was.

While the exact impact is hard to read, I think it's probably fair to say that her tweet was among the most negative financial impact from one we've seen.

Trump's Lockheed Martin tweet probably exceeded it in raw dollars, that was the start of a $3.5b tumble, though there was partial recovery afterwards. (I don't own any of it so I haven't looked to see how complete the recovery has been)

molson · 05-29-2018, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Cue Fox News and a Donald Tweet about in 3,2,1...

Rosanne was at least always respectful of the anthem.....

1990 THROWBACK:"ROSEANNE BARR SINGS THE NATIONAL ANTHEM" - YouTube

Edward64 · 05-29-2018, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Rosanne was at least always respectful of the anthem.....

1990 THROWBACK:"ROSEANNE BARR SINGS THE NATIONAL ANTHEM" - YouTube

I heard it the first time (was it back in 1990?). I don't need to hear it again

molson · 05-29-2018, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

I heard it the first time (was it back in 1990?). I don't need to hear it again

It was actually worse than I remembered

miami_fan · 05-29-2018, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

It is kind of strange that this is front page national news, maybe that's what he's getting at. I mean, even here, it's not worthy of its own thread. Does that mean we don't think this was a big deal? Or was this so great a tragedy as to appropriately dominate the news outlets? Yes, there's a lot going on but damn it, that mentally ill racist sitcom star said something else terrible, stop the presses!

I wonder if this was the most expensive tweet in the history of twitter. This was a big show (which I had no idea of until today, so, thanks news outlets, I guess.)

I can only speak for myself and with the caveat that I have read very little of the coverage of the scandal other than the comments here. I will never be able to ignore the historical context of associating a black person with apes. In the same way, I will never ignore the historical context of a Jewish person with rats for example. So for me, when I hear either of those associations being made, I do ask why because my initial thought is one informed by that historical context. That doesn't mean that when it happens that I go into a depression or it automatically forces me to judge the person that says it into a "mentally ill racist". It does become a piece of the puzzle that is my impression of said person. I also have a history with being called a gorilla on more than a few occasions to include one time in a Dothan, Alabama bar that did not end especially well so there is that.

To answer your questions, do I think it is a big deal?

Yes, because of what I wrote above and I thought the collective "We" thought that this was not cool 40 years. That does not mean it should be a big deal to you but also does not invalidate its importance to me.

Was this so great a tragedy as to appropriately dominate the news outlets?

No, because I would not have expected anything else from Roseanne. For more context, I also did not think it was a big deal when she sang the National Anthem.

Humor strikes everyone differently and does the backlash to humor

YMMV

digamma · 05-30-2018, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I'd have to consciously rediscover what the p.o.s. in question looks like to pass judgement on the tweet.

And I can't remotely find myself caring enough one way or the other to do that.

Missed this yesterday, but it's over the line. Take a few days.

CU Tiger · 05-30-2018, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

Missed this yesterday, but it's over the line. Take a few days.

Of all the think Jon has said over the years, this gets him banned?

That seems like a fairly capricious standard, even for this place.

05-17-2018, 04:23 PM	#17653
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	The saga continues. Guy came over, tested the outlets, and basically told me "thanks to the new code, that's just gonna happen". I told him in no uncertain terms that was not acceptable. Being unable to operate a washer and dryer is Not Okay. "Well, about the only thing you can do is replace the breaker with one that's not up to code". "Okay, so who do I talk to to do that?" "...let me chat with my boss." We'll see. Fucking annoying. Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 05-17-2018 at 04:24 PM.

05-17-2018, 04:33 PM	#17654
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	Have you engaged the builder/GC? If they are no help, call the electrical inspector himself. They love to hammer contractors who blame "the code" for their incompetence... Last edited by CU Tiger : 05-17-2018 at 04:34 PM.

05-21-2018, 10:48 PM	#17656
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Since its graduation season, this seems appropriate: 404 Not Found __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

05-22-2018, 05:08 PM	#17660
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	I need to talk to more Indian(the non native American kind) people or something. I feel like I bombed a job interview because I couldn't get around one of the interviewers thick Indian accent. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

05-22-2018, 07:00 PM	#17663
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I struggle with many accents. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

05-16-2018, 01:01 PM	#17651
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	dishwasher/clothes washing machine, both use inductive motors. Same characteristics. The dryer thing changes things a bit. Typically your dryer chasis is grounded by connection to the groundED conductor (not the groundING conductor) if you have a chasis connection to groundED conductor a GFI breaker (AFCI) will trip every time. The wiring creates a theoretical short between ground and neutral. Now there are some nuance differences between Arc Fault and Ground fault. I dont want to be throwing those around interchangeably. Bottom line, if its a new home - it has a warranty - they need to get out there and fix it.

05-16-2018, 02:11 PM	#17652
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Oh, I've already pinged them to come out and take a look. And thus far, both machines plugged into the other outlet in the laundry room has not tripped the breaker.

05-17-2018, 04:36 PM	#17655
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	That WAS the builder.

05-22-2018, 01:07 PM	#17658
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Oh homeschooling..

05-22-2018, 02:04 PM	#17659
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	My son's field day at school today. The Thunderbirds were out practicing for the Air Force Academy graduation tomorrow, they buzzed the playground a couple times. Didn't get any good pictures, but was still cool.

05-22-2018, 07:43 PM	#17664
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I sympathize too. I have 100% loss in one ear and 40-60% loss in the other. I work in IT and have the most problem with Asian Indian accents to the point I tend not to communicate with them (I don't have to much anyway). Other Asians and Europeans not much of a problem if I listen carefully, though I would have to add American Southerners to the problem list as well.

05-23-2018, 02:34 AM	#17665
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I pick up a lot of foreign students. It's kind of weird when they'll be conversing in their native tongue but then Express something in English and then go right back to their native tongue. I assume some expressions/ideas in English just don't Translate well to other foreign languages?

05-23-2018, 10:21 AM	#17667
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I noticed this when I was living in Italy. Some English phrases just get used. One example is 'weekend'. That was used quite a bit, when there 'fine settimana' is the proper Italian to use. A lot of computer terms used are English as well. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

05-23-2018, 12:58 PM	#17670
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Heh. Electrical fun update. In a move that surprises no one, they tried a few things, then replaced the breaker with an older, non arc fault breaker. And gasp, it's not tripping anything. They didn't have a tester with them for the units themselves, so they're gonna come back at some point to test the washer/dryer.

05-29-2018, 01:41 PM	#17671
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Roseanne, I am hoping the rest of your life is miserable. Wanda Sykes quits 'Roseanne' after Barr's Twitter rant

05-29-2018, 01:51 PM	#17672
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	In a bar watching First Take with the sound off. Max Kellerman’s job is literally to sit there and pretend to look interested while SAS rants. And you know what? He’s really good at it. Staring into a camera for minutes on end, not talking and not looking like a goober isn’t as easy as it looks.

05-29-2018, 01:59 PM	#17674
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Back to politics I guess.

05-29-2018, 02:36 PM	#17677
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Just from watching cable news coverage of Roseanne's tweet, I can only conclude that no one has ever insulted anyone before. The way they talk about it you'd think she had participated in the Holocaust or something. I'm not a fan of the tweet myself but some people need to get off their pedestals. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

05-29-2018, 02:41 PM	#17678
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Are you seriously saying that calling a black woman an ape is just another insult? Seriously? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

05-29-2018, 02:43 PM	#17679
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Insults are suppose to hurt, that is the point. And I already said I'm not a fan of the tweet. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

05-29-2018, 02:47 PM	#17682
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I'd have to consciously rediscover what the p.o.s. in question looks like to pass judgement on the tweet. And I can't remotely find myself caring enough one way or the other to do that. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-29-2018, 02:54 PM	#17687
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	I never said racism is ok and I said I'm not a fan of the tweet. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

05-29-2018, 04:28 PM	#17689
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	I think he said 1) Insults are okay 2) He is not okay with racism I infer that he doesn't think this specific "insult" was that bad Therefore 1) He doesn't think the insult rises to the level of racism?

05-29-2018, 04:40 PM	#17690
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	A weird take when someone makes a joke than an African-American woman descends (partially) from apes. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

05-29-2018, 05:33 PM	#17692
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	It is kind of strange that this is front page national news, maybe that's what he's getting at. I mean, even here, it's not worthy of its own thread. Does that mean we don't think this was a big deal? Or was this so great a tragedy as to appropriately dominate the news outlets? Yes, there's a lot going on but damn it, that mentally ill racist sitcom star said something else terrible, stop the presses! I wonder if this was the most expensive tweet in the history of twitter. This was a big show (which I had no idea of until today, so, thanks news outlets, I guess.) Last edited by molson : 05-29-2018 at 05:35 PM.

05-29-2018, 06:13 PM	#17693
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Kendall Jenner dissing snapchat had something like a 1bn market valuation* *I just read this, have no idea how true it was. Can't we start new threads here btw?

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