WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!! - Page 4

jeheinz72 · 04-27-2009, 04:51 PM

Work on Gladhanding

jeheinz72 · 04-27-2009, 04:51 PM

Wanted to get that in, I'll be gone until morning.

Abe Sargent · 04-27-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Still unsure, when we post what work we want to do do we also post how many units we are going to do or do we always just do 1 unit?

No units, htis isn;t a BK game.

You just post that you are doing the work and you will give one man-day of work unless it is an area of specialization

dubb93 · 04-27-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I also have bonus to working in a specific skill, I imagine other villagers do as well, is there a negative for coming out with this information and using it to more properly gage how much work we need on each task?

I think this got lost in the loop and is worth discussing.

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

No units, htis isn;t a BK game.

You just post that you are doing the work and you will give one man-day of work unless it is an area of specialization

You mock even as you steal my mechanic. That's fine. It's a good mechanic and I am pleased to see someone else using it.

I will Orate.

In case you haven't already noticed.

Danny · 04-27-2009, 04:56 PM

I think we should consider all posting our area of specialization. What it can do is make it know exactly how many units of work should be completed on a specific job and will show us where and if there is faked work. I'm also guessing (but I am definitely not sure) that wolves do not have an area of specialization and thus the wolves are forced to lie about it or risk having other villagers become trusted.

I want some discussion on this, but I don't see a downside to this yet.

Danny · 04-27-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I think this got lost in the loop and is worth discussing.

Yeah, and I brought it up again as you were posting.

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I think this got lost in the loop and is worth discussing.

I did miss it. Thanks dubb. I would argue people with specialization are asking to be wolf fodder, especially if we can keep our act together. Now there might be a good reason later on to reveal, but I can't think of why revealing now would be a good thing for the village. Of course, if such specializations are pretty widespread then I think the point becomes less consequential.

Danny · 04-27-2009, 04:59 PM

From the rules "All of you have various skills that might come in handy in certain camps and areas. At the end of the day, results will be posted, but not how much work each individual did. At that point, you will know whether or not you were successful."

Abe Sargent · 04-27-2009, 05:00 PM

I will be out from 5:30 or so until bout 9:30 or so

PurdueBrad · 04-27-2009, 05:01 PM

Thankfully the wife is running late (as usual).

I will orate

claphamsa · 04-27-2009, 05:01 PM

gladhandle

vote anxiety!

I have softball, so Ill be gone most of the night

Danny · 04-27-2009, 05:02 PM

lol, no voting today Clap

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

From the rules "All of you have various skills that might come in handy in certain camps and areas. At the end of the day, results will be posted, but not how much work each individual did. At that point, you will know whether or not you were successful."

Ok based on that mass reveal seems good and so I will admit that I'm good at working the Treasury.

Danny · 04-27-2009, 05:04 PM

I say we go with this as well. I am good at food distribution

For this to really work, hopefully everyone will end up posting theirs as well.

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I say we go with this as well. I am good at food distribution

For this to really work, hopefully everyone will end up posting theirs as well.

I don't hope. I expect.

EagleFan · 04-27-2009, 05:07 PM

Since I'm still trying to figure out what is happening I am just going to check in at the moment. My skill is neither of the two today so I will also wait to see how this plays out before I decide upon which to do, or wait to see if a mission is planned and if that would fall in line with my skill better.

USFLTecmo · 04-27-2009, 05:08 PM

Checking in, and checking out for the night. In bed in a few hours for a really early start at work tomorrow, then back around 10 AM ET. I'll catch up on anything then.

EagleFan · 04-27-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I say we go with this as well. I am good at food distribution

For this to really work, hopefully everyone will end up posting theirs as well.

Not really sure if this would help anything except giving the "wolves" an idea of who to target.

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Not really sure if this would help anything except giving the "wolves" an idea of who to target.

Except since everyone has an ability, and we don't know which days will need which abilities, there's no reason for everyone not to reveal. By revealing we can maximize our utilization and perhaps catch the wolves in a lie. This is how things have worked in my 2 cathedral games and my 3 spawn games. I know of what I speak.

Poli · 04-27-2009, 05:11 PM

If I recall correctly, I'm really good at searching.

Abe Sargent · 04-27-2009, 05:11 PM

On December 6, 1907, in the small coal mining town of Monongah, an explosion caused by the igniting of methane tears through the #6 and #8 mines causing a massive collapse and trapping hundred of miners!!!

People are panicking and going every which way. Miners and comapny are unorganized and not responding well.

MISSION -

You may send a # of people to organize the rescue crew and try to rescue the miners trapped by the explosion of the #6 and #8 mines.

Post your entrance to the mission is bold. The mission will process at 3 pm tomorrow afternoon. If you go on the mission, you may not work today.

claphamsa · 04-27-2009, 05:11 PM

im a gladhandler, whatever the hell that is

Danny · 04-27-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

im a gladhandler, whatever the hell that is

Then you should be working on gladhandling today

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

im a gladhandler, whatever the hell that is

Ok, this is good to know. So you're useful today. Are you 2x 3x 4x 5x more useful than the ordinary person?

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

If I recall correctly, I'm really good at searching.

Presumably this goes to today's mission. So Poli should work on that instead of our conversion.

Abe Sargent · 04-27-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

im a gladhandler, whatever the hell that is

dictionary.com

to greet others with enthusiasm, esp. feigned enthusiasm

Danny · 04-27-2009, 05:15 PM

I'd like to see us work out who is doing what as a group before anyone decides to go on the mission. If we use our specialization, we can send a max # of people on the mission and force the wolves to fake in order to not complete everything.

Danny · 04-27-2009, 05:17 PM

So far

BK- Working the Treasury
Danny- Food Distribution
Poli- Searching
Claphamsa- Gladhandling

dubb93 · 04-27-2009, 05:17 PM

I am a good gladhandler. I'm able to do 3x the work that a normal person would perform in this area.

Danny · 04-27-2009, 05:19 PM

Ok, so if Clap is a 3x, then I believe we should put Clap, Dubb and two others (or one if there is another with that specialization) on Gladhandling and no one else. This frees up a lot of other people for the mission and if a wolf fakes there is a limited selection of players to choose from.

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:19 PM

I think people should only reveal specifics when appropriate. So even though we're using Poli's skill today there's no need for detail since we don't know what our ideal # is. Where as dubb and clap seem to be able to perform a majority of our gladhandling work by their lonesome. It would help if clap reveal the specifics of his ability.

Danny · 04-27-2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I think people should only reveal specifics when appropriate. So even though we're using Poli's skill today there's no need for detail since we don't know what our ideal # is. Where as dubb and clap seem to be able to perform a majority of our gladhandling work by their lonesome. It would help if clap reveal the specifics of his ability.

Agreed

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I think people should only reveal specifics when appropriate. So even though we're using Poli's skill today there's no need for detail since we don't know what our ideal # is. Where as dubb and clap seem to be able to perform a majority of our gladhandling work by their lonesome. It would help if clap reveal the specifics of his ability.

And by using Poli's skill I mean Poli should be using his skill to search. Not that this has already been done.

Abe Sargent · 04-27-2009, 05:23 PM

March 7, 1891 – A law is passed which bans the use of company script as payment for workers. No company or employer is ever prosecuted under this law, that companies flaunt for decades. Company script is token money that can only be used in the company store.

Autumn · 04-27-2009, 05:27 PM

I don't see a real downside to disclosure either. Well, actually I can think of one. It's possible the Sympathizers have the ability to disrupt our work, possibly by blocking an individual. In that case disclosure would help them. But that seems unlikely enough that catching them in lies will be a much bigger upside.

So, I have a specialty in hunting. I don't think anything that's come up so far will work towards that, so I'll just go wherever we need a number.

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

I don't see a real downside to disclosure either. Well, actually I can think of one. It's possible the Sympathizers have the ability to disrupt our work, possibly by blocking an individual. In that case disclosure would help them. But that seems unlikely enough that catching them in lies will be a much bigger upside.

So, I have a specialty in hunting. I don't think anything that's come up so far will work towards that, so I'll just go wherever we need a number.

Now there's some good thinking. It would suggest that perhaps we don't want to cut it so close.

jeheinz72 · 04-27-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Ok, so if Clap is a 3x, then I believe we should put Clap, Dubb and two others (or one if there is another with that specialization) on Gladhandling and no one else. This frees up a lot of other people for the mission and if a wolf fakes there is a limited selection of players to choose from.

I am also a Gladhander at 3x strength

Poli · 04-27-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Post your entrance to the mission is bold. The mission will process at 3 pm tomorrow afternoon. If you go on the mission, you may not work today.

POLI GOES ON THE MISSION

The Jackal · 04-27-2009, 05:34 PM

My skill is searching, so I think I should go on the mission. Not sure if that will apply to trapped miners, but it certainly could.

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

My skill is searching, so I think I should go on the mission. Not sure if that will apply to trapped miners, but it certainly could.

I have to think it does.

The Jackal · 04-27-2009, 05:36 PM

GO ON MISSION

dubb93 · 04-27-2009, 05:41 PM

My bsdar is starting to get pinged. Three gladhandlers at this point and not a single other specialty has more than one at this point. I guess we play the wait and see game for everyone to reveal.

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

My bsdar is starting to get pinged. Three gladhandlers at this point and not a single other specialty has more than one at this point. I guess we play the wait and see game for everyone to reveal.

That's not true. I count 5 specialties revealed so far. Who is the third gladhandler?

Abe Sargent · 04-27-2009, 05:43 PM

Okay, off to my function. See ya all when I get back

jeheinz72 · 04-27-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

That's not true. I count 5 specialties revealed so far. Who is the third gladhandler?

Me, clap and Dubb.

If someone wants to think I'm a wolf for it, fine. But it wasn't coincidence that I was all over asking how to put my action in like white on rice.

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Me, clap and Dubb.

If someone wants to think I'm a wolf for it, fine. But it wasn't coincidence that I was all over asking how to put my action in like white on rice.

Thanks. Missed your reveal.

Barkeep49 · 04-27-2009, 05:48 PM

So presumably we have 9 out of 8 required units completed there.

dubb93 · 04-27-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So presumably we have 9 out of 8 required units completed there.

I think I'll wait and see if the other ones have 3 people specializing in them too before I assume that is the truth.

path12 · 04-27-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

But it's not so let's not muddy the waters. We might or might not have traditional roles, but I'm inclined to think we've got some form of a bodyguard, seer, duke, etc.

Seems to me that role speculation at this point distracts us from the main issue which is to get this camp converted. I'll trust that any roles we do have are wise and efficient in their duties for now and worry about which ones if any are around later.

Ready to go to work on either mission. I don't think my particular specialty will help either of the two missions.

04-27-2009, 05:00 PM	#160
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04-27-2009, 05:01 PM	#162
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	gladhandle vote anxiety! I have softball, so Ill be gone most of the night __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-27-2009, 05:11 PM	#171
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04-27-2009, 05:11 PM	#172
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	On December 6, 1907, in the small coal mining town of Monongah, an explosion caused by the igniting of methane tears through the #6 and #8 mines causing a massive collapse and trapping hundred of miners!!! People are panicking and going every which way. Miners and comapny are unorganized and not responding well. MISSION - You may send a # of people to organize the rescue crew and try to rescue the miners trapped by the explosion of the #6 and #8 mines. Post your entrance to the mission is bold. The mission will process at 3 pm tomorrow afternoon. If you go on the mission, you may not work today. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent Last edited by Abe Sargent : 04-27-2009 at 05:11 PM.

04-27-2009, 05:11 PM	#173
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	im a gladhandler, whatever the hell that is __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-27-2009, 04:56 PM	#156
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think we should consider all posting our area of specialization. What it can do is make it know exactly how many units of work should be completed on a specific job and will show us where and if there is faked work. I'm also guessing (but I am definitely not sure) that wolves do not have an area of specialization and thus the wolves are forced to lie about it or risk having other villagers become trusted. I want some discussion on this, but I don't see a downside to this yet.

04-27-2009, 04:59 PM	#159
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	From the rules "All of you have various skills that might come in handy in certain camps and areas. At the end of the day, results will be posted, but not how much work each individual did. At that point, you will know whether or not you were successful."

04-27-2009, 05:01 PM	#161
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Thankfully the wife is running late (as usual). I will orate

04-27-2009, 05:02 PM	#163
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	lol, no voting today Clap

04-27-2009, 05:04 PM	#165
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I say we go with this as well. I am good at food distribution For this to really work, hopefully everyone will end up posting theirs as well.

04-27-2009, 05:07 PM	#167
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Since I'm still trying to figure out what is happening I am just going to check in at the moment. My skill is neither of the two today so I will also wait to see how this plays out before I decide upon which to do, or wait to see if a mission is planned and if that would fall in line with my skill better.

04-27-2009, 05:08 PM	#168
USFLTecmo H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin	Checking in, and checking out for the night. In bed in a few hours for a really early start at work tomorrow, then back around 10 AM ET. I'll catch up on anything then.

04-27-2009, 05:15 PM	#178
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'd like to see us work out who is doing what as a group before anyone decides to go on the mission. If we use our specialization, we can send a max # of people on the mission and force the wolves to fake in order to not complete everything.

04-27-2009, 05:17 PM	#179
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So far BK- Working the Treasury Danny- Food Distribution Poli- Searching Claphamsa- Gladhandling

04-27-2009, 05:17 PM	#180
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	I am a good gladhandler. I'm able to do 3x the work that a normal person would perform in this area.

04-27-2009, 05:19 PM	#181
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Ok, so if Clap is a 3x, then I believe we should put Clap, Dubb and two others (or one if there is another with that specialization) on Gladhandling and no one else. This frees up a lot of other people for the mission and if a wolf fakes there is a limited selection of players to choose from.

04-27-2009, 05:19 PM	#182
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I think people should only reveal specifics when appropriate. So even though we're using Poli's skill today there's no need for detail since we don't know what our ideal # is. Where as dubb and clap seem to be able to perform a majority of our gladhandling work by their lonesome. It would help if clap reveal the specifics of his ability.

04-27-2009, 05:23 PM	#185
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	March 7, 1891 – A law is passed which bans the use of company script as payment for workers. No company or employer is ever prosecuted under this law, that companies flaunt for decades. Company script is token money that can only be used in the company store. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-27-2009, 05:27 PM	#186
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I don't see a real downside to disclosure either. Well, actually I can think of one. It's possible the Sympathizers have the ability to disrupt our work, possibly by blocking an individual. In that case disclosure would help them. But that seems unlikely enough that catching them in lies will be a much bigger upside. So, I have a specialty in hunting. I don't think anything that's come up so far will work towards that, so I'll just go wherever we need a number.

04-27-2009, 05:34 PM	#190
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	My skill is searching, so I think I should go on the mission. Not sure if that will apply to trapped miners, but it certainly could.

04-27-2009, 05:36 PM	#192
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	GO ON MISSION

04-27-2009, 05:41 PM	#193
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	My bsdar is starting to get pinged. Three gladhandlers at this point and not a single other specialty has more than one at this point. I guess we play the wait and see game for everyone to reveal.

04-27-2009, 05:43 PM	#195
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Okay, off to my function. See ya all when I get back __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-27-2009, 05:48 PM	#198
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	So presumably we have 9 out of 8 required units completed there.

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