LXXVIII: Politicus Lupus (GAME OVER!! SEE POST #2593 FOR RESULTS) - Page 43

mccollins · 07-29-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

You mean me, or Chubby?

I was referring to the same person you were referring - not turning your funeral words back onto yourself.

jeheinz72 · 07-29-2008, 04:05 PM

Oh ok, gotcha. Me dumb. Don't think. Hurts earballs.

illinifan999 · 07-29-2008, 04:05 PM

If PB is lynched are we going to go with the doctor protect heinz, and the BG protect me to protect my districts tonight?

KWhit · 07-29-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by illinifan999

If PB is lynched are we going to go with the doctor protect heinz, and the BG protect me to protect my districts tonight?

That sounds like a good plan to me. Whoever is the BG should make sure to make that happen (it's not me, unfortunately).

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

Oh, well the first part just boils down to which reveal you believe.

Again, I point you to my analysis, then. I think it's far worse to let PB get away with lying, then to let heinz get away with it.

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by illinifan999

If PB is lynched are we going to go with the doctor protect heinz, and the BG protect me to protect my districts tonight?

I don't think we need to worry about you getting killed, if PB is bad. That means Tyrith and heinz are good. If PB is lynched and GOOD, then we have to worry about whether or not you're a wolf.

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Here's my take:

Assume PB is right: Heinz is a wolf, and me, Tyrith, and PB are all good.

Bad case 1: Heinz, illinifan, and mccollins are wolves. They have 7 districts now. If we lynch PB, they go up to 8, and killing Chubby gives them 9.

Bad case 2: Heinz, Chubby, and mccollins are wolves. Bonus points for the 2-2 split. They have 6 districts now, getting PB lynched gives them none. Killing illinifan gives them two more, and they're at 8. We get heinz at that point, and they're hurting.

Bad case 3: Heinz, illinifan, and Chubby are wolves. They have 6 now. Getting PB lynched bumps them up to 7. Killing mccollins puts them at 8 or 9, depending on how his three districts get split.

Bade case 4: Heinz, Chubby, and chesapeake are wolves. They have 5 now, getting PB lynched keeps them at 5. Killing illinifan puts them at 7 or 8, and killing mccollins puts them at 8.

So we really only need to worry about BC1 and half of BC3 if PB is telling the truth.

Based on this post, if PB ends up good, we should protect Chubby and mccollins. But mostly Chubby. I'm thinking BG on Chubby, Doctor on mccollins -- I would trust the BG more in this case, since illini is claiming to be the Doctor.

chesapeake · 07-29-2008, 04:15 PM

My colleagues, choosing a president is among the most important things that American citizens do. The next presidential term is likely the one that will see either the defeat of the dreaded Wolf Party -- or it's terrifying victory. To lead us through these dark times, the Democratic Party would like to nominate the one man who, with the help of the loyal bodyguard, has withstood the slanders and innuendos of the wolves and emerged stronger than ever. My colleagues, I submit for your approval, the Democratic Nominee for President of the FOFC States, KWHIT!

chesapeake · 07-29-2008, 04:16 PM

ENDORSE KWHIT FOR PRESIDENT

chesapeake · 07-29-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'm hoping not, since I'd like to see us pass the CARP, which would get rid of the brutal wolf. I think they don't have very powerful riders they can add now, though, so it's not the end of the world, I guess.

I'm with Pass on this one, for the record.

chesapeake · 07-29-2008, 04:21 PM

VOTE CENSURE PURDUEBRAD

Lathum · 07-29-2008, 04:24 PM

ENDORSE KWHIT FOR PRESIDENT

mccollins · 07-29-2008, 04:27 PM

ENDORSE KWHIT FOR PRESIDENT

KWhit · 07-29-2008, 04:33 PM

Yay for me.

Endorse myself for President.

illinifan999 · 07-29-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Yay for me.

Endorse myself for President.

Just so you know, I asked CR if we could endorse ourselves, and he said that it's assumed. Don't know if you knew that or not, just throwing it out there.

KWhit · 07-29-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by illinifan999

Just so you know, I asked CR if we could endorse ourselves, and he said that it's assumed. Don't know if you knew that or not, just throwing it out there.

I figured it couldn't hurt.

Chubby · 07-29-2008, 04:40 PM

Endorse KWhit for Prez

Tyrith · 07-29-2008, 04:45 PM

Even if it's assumed, I think I'll do it just for fun.

ENDORSE MYSELF FOR PRESIDENTE

chesapeake · 07-29-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Even if it's assumed, I think I'll do it just for fun.

ENDORSE MYSELF FOR PRESIDENTE

It feels good, doesn't it, amigo?

henry296 · 07-29-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Really? I could understand henry saying that, since he probably hasn't caught up, but you've been around today -- all my analysis, and it still makes the most sense that the two options are just as likely?

Pass, I had been reading along and my comment was from a pure starting stand point, not based on the additional information from playing the game. I'm very much on heinze's side right now, but need to finish reading.

henry296 · 07-29-2008, 05:18 PM

I think I've caught up enought to vote

census PurdueBrad

My theory is that mccollins and Chubby are the other wolves.

illinifan999 · 07-29-2008, 05:20 PM

Endorse Tyrith for President

jeheinz72 · 07-29-2008, 05:39 PM

Well I'm outta here folks in 10 minutes. Last chance for any seer-eqsue questions.

chesapeake · 07-29-2008, 05:49 PM

I'm headed home, myself. I may be on again before the deadline, but I may not.

Chubby · 07-29-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

I think I've caught up enought to vote

census PurdueBrad

My theory is that mccollins and Chubby are the other wolves.

glad to see taking one for the team with my veto and casting the deciding vote on Mrs S were useless

If i'm wrong then i'm wrong but I think i'm right. If i'm wrong then scan my ass, i dont care.

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

glad to see taking one for the team with my veto and casting the deciding vote on Mrs S were useless

If i'm wrong then i'm wrong but I think i'm right. If i'm wrong then scan my ass, i dont care.

IMO they weren't useless -- you might have made it through the next day due to some lame excuse and the extreme partisanship of the other Democrats, but you would have lost a lot of trust, and that would have caught up with you.

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 07:37 PM

Anyway, if you're wrong, it's likely mccollins who should get the scan. With three districts under him, we need to know what he is.

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 07:46 PM

CR says he is...

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

working overtime on a file, so I may not get home by the deadline. The deadline will still remain as is, but it won’t be processed until I get home. I will rush home as fast as I can, of course. Thanks!

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 07:46 PM

Bummers -- this hampers my ability to tell you all what to do, pending results. Assuming we're lynching PurdueBrad, I think we should protect Chubby first, mccollins second is he is bad.

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 07:51 PM

And if PB is bad, I'm thinking illinifan and mccollins should be guarded, but it's not as important.

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 08:22 PM

VOTE PURDUEBRAD WOLF
VOTE NO BBGB OVERTURN
ENDORSE TYRITH PRESIDENT

mccollins · 07-29-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

And if PB is bad, I'm thinking illinifan and mccollins should be guarded, but it's not as important.

I think Illinifan has stated about a dozen times what needs to happen with the Doctor and the Bodyguard.

Lathum · 07-29-2008, 08:37 PM

VOTE WOLF JEHEINZE

mccollins · 07-29-2008, 08:40 PM

VOTE WOLF JEHEINZE

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

I think Illinifan has stated about a dozen times what needs to happen with the Doctor and the Bodyguard.

Yeah, he's been wrong, though.

Chubby · 07-29-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

IMO they weren't useless -- you might have made it through the next day due to some lame excuse and the extreme partisanship of the other Democrats, but you would have lost a lot of trust, and that would have caught up with you.

I'm losing trust for following my gut anyways

henry296 · 07-29-2008, 08:47 PM

vote henry speaker

mccollins · 07-29-2008, 08:49 PM

vote henry speaker

mccollins · 07-29-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Yeah, he's been wrong, though.

I'm pretty sure I figured out who is which role and I think he's right.

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

I'm pretty sure I figured out who is which role and I think he's right.

With all due respect, I don't think that sentence should convince anyone, compared to the analysis I've put in.

mccollins · 07-29-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

With all due respect, I don't think that sentence should convince anyone, compared to the analysis I've put in.

You played out all the scenarios - true. Do you want me to tell you which is the Dr. and which is the BG?

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

You played out all the scenarios - true. Do you want me to tell you which is the Dr. and which is the BG?

Not particularly. I think illini made a hint at being the doctor. I mentioned it later, but I don't totally believe it. Anyway, my scenarios are to avoid losing, in case PB turns up good. If PB is bad, I'm not too worried.

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Not particularly. I think illini made a hint at being the doctor. I mentioned it later, but I don't totally believe it. Anyway, my scenarios are to avoid losing, in case PB turns up good. If PB is bad, I'm not too worried.

By this I mean I'm more concerned with losing than protecting the BG and Doctor. If PB is bad, I don't see how we can lose tonight. If PB is good, that means that we need to worry about illinifan being a wolf and you or Chubby getting killed. That makes sure we avoid losing tonight.

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 08:57 PM

This is all assuming PB is getting lynched, of course. I don't have a vote count.

mccollins · 07-29-2008, 09:01 PM

DEADLINE

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 09:05 PM

CR said he'd probably get home around 9:45 Eastern.

mccollins · 07-29-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

If PB is bad, I don't see how we can lose tonight. If PB is good, that means that we need to worry about illinifan being a wolf and you or Chubby getting killed.

Do you not know?

After your analysis, you sounded pretty sure that PB was bad here:

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Again, I point you to my analysis, then. I think it's far worse to let PB get away with lying, then to let heinz get away with it.

I think if you look at the way everything played out today that Heinze really comes off as the real seer. I voted him near the end when it was way out of reach to see if any wolf would try to save him.

mccollins · 07-29-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

CR said he'd probably get home around 9:45 Eastern.

Cool. He also said the deadline times were the same. I was just marking it for everyone.

Passacaglia · 07-29-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

Cool. He also said the deadline times were the same. I was just marking it for everyone.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to say anything about the deadline -- just giving people a better idea when they can expect results.

Tyrith · 07-29-2008, 09:09 PM

I assume we had enough votes.

07-29-2008, 04:05 PM	#2103
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	If PB is lynched are we going to go with the doctor protect heinz, and the BG protect me to protect my districts tonight? __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

07-29-2008, 05:18 PM	#2121
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I think I've caught up enought to vote census PurdueBrad My theory is that mccollins and Chubby are the other wolves. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

07-29-2008, 05:20 PM	#2122
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Endorse Tyrith for President __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

07-29-2008, 08:47 PM	#2137
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	vote henry speaker __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

07-29-2008, 04:15 PM	#2108
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	My colleagues, choosing a president is among the most important things that American citizens do. The next presidential term is likely the one that will see either the defeat of the dreaded Wolf Party -- or it's terrifying victory. To lead us through these dark times, the Democratic Party would like to nominate the one man who, with the help of the loyal bodyguard, has withstood the slanders and innuendos of the wolves and emerged stronger than ever. My colleagues, I submit for your approval, the Democratic Nominee for President of the FOFC States, KWHIT!

07-29-2008, 04:16 PM	#2109
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	ENDORSE KWHIT FOR PRESIDENT

07-29-2008, 04:21 PM	#2111
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	VOTE CENSURE PURDUEBRAD

07-29-2008, 04:24 PM	#2112
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	ENDORSE KWHIT FOR PRESIDENT

07-29-2008, 04:27 PM	#2113
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	ENDORSE KWHIT FOR PRESIDENT

07-29-2008, 04:33 PM	#2114
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Yay for me. Endorse myself for President.

07-29-2008, 04:40 PM	#2117
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Endorse KWhit for Prez

07-29-2008, 04:45 PM	#2118
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Even if it's assumed, I think I'll do it just for fun. ENDORSE MYSELF FOR PRESIDENTE

07-29-2008, 05:49 PM	#2124
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	I'm headed home, myself. I may be on again before the deadline, but I may not.

07-29-2008, 07:37 PM	#2127
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Anyway, if you're wrong, it's likely mccollins who should get the scan. With three districts under him, we need to know what he is.

07-29-2008, 07:46 PM	#2129
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Bummers -- this hampers my ability to tell you all what to do, pending results. Assuming we're lynching PurdueBrad, I think we should protect Chubby first, mccollins second is he is bad.

07-29-2008, 07:51 PM	#2130
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	And if PB is bad, I'm thinking illinifan and mccollins should be guarded, but it's not as important.

07-29-2008, 08:22 PM	#2131
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	VOTE PURDUEBRAD WOLF VOTE NO BBGB OVERTURN ENDORSE TYRITH PRESIDENT

07-29-2008, 08:37 PM	#2133
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	VOTE WOLF JEHEINZE

07-29-2008, 08:40 PM	#2134
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	VOTE WOLF JEHEINZE

07-29-2008, 08:49 PM	#2138
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	vote henry speaker

07-29-2008, 08:57 PM	#2144
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	This is all assuming PB is getting lynched, of course. I don't have a vote count.

07-29-2008, 09:01 PM	#2145
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	DEADLINE

07-29-2008, 09:05 PM	#2146
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	CR said he'd probably get home around 9:45 Eastern.

07-29-2008, 09:09 PM	#2150
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I assume we had enough votes.

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