08-06-2014, 11:17 PM | #2301 |
High School Varsity
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA
|
Not to mention Xbox is out advertising sony, I'm seeing ads for their games before blockbuster movies and I know bigger ones are on the way
|
08-06-2014, 11:26 PM | #2302 | |
General Manager
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
|
Quote:
So you're saying the next 15 months are the make it or break it for the X1. Seems very reasonable. At that point, you're three holiday seasons into a cycle and facing a good lineup of Sony exclusives. If you can win in that situation, you can win the generation. |
|
08-06-2014, 11:31 PM | #2303 |
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2013
|
Honest question but what Sony exclusives are there coming out in the next 15 months? Keeping in mind if the game comes out on PC I don't consider it exclusive.
__________________
"I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney" |
08-06-2014, 11:33 PM | #2304 | |
General Manager
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
|
Quote:
Link? Every article I've seen has Sony heavily outspending MS in regards to advertising. This study is just one example, but Sony has consistently stated in interviews that they plan to out-advertise MS at any cost this generation. PlayStation is Video Game Industry’s Biggest TV Spender So Far This Year - CMO Today - WSJ |
|
08-06-2014, 11:37 PM | #2305 |
High School Varsity
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA
|
No Link...just seeing Ads for their games in front of every movie I see and i know, even though again i cant link, that theyre rolling out movie theater trailers for their exclusive games. Even if sony is out spending them theyre not getting the same penetration from what my friends and I are seeing
|
08-06-2014, 11:37 PM | #2306 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sydney, Australia
|
Maybe we can start the PS4/Xbox One fight when either of the consoles has a single next gen title out. Right now I barely turn on my PS4 except for when I feel like an hour or so of My Career in 2K14. Hell, still got my PS3 hooked up so I can use it as a media player, because my PS4 won't let me.
__________________
Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce |
08-06-2014, 11:56 PM | #2307 | |
General Manager
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
|
Quote:
Here's the bigger exclusives coming out that we're aware of through next holiday season...... PS4 DriveClub Little Big Planet 3 Drifter The Order: 1886 Secret Ponchos Bloodborne Uncharted 4 MLB 15: The Show X1 Forza Horizon 2 Fantasia: Music Evolved Sunset Overdrive Halo: Master Chief Collection Fable Legends Halo 5: Guardians Quantum Break Scalebound Not sure if any of the games are also on PC, but I would guess that if any of them were, it would likely be MS just because they sometimes create PC versions of their console exclusives. I'd also note that most consider Destiny nearly an exclusive, just because most of the downloadable content is exclusive for a year, giving the PS4 version a big advantage and tilting pre-sales heavily towards that version. |
|
08-07-2014, 12:07 AM | #2308 | |
General Manager
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
|
Quote:
You might want to download the latest PS4 update (1.75) in regards to media play. Helped quite a bit on the Blu-ray front. As for next-gen titles, MLB 14 and Infamous: Second Son are both big improvements over their previous generation options. Killzone is also a very good single player shooter campaign if that's your kind of thing. There's limited options to be sure, but saying there's not a single next-gen title is stretching it quite a bit. |
|
08-07-2014, 12:11 AM | #2309 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Green Bay, WI
|
Quote:
MLB 14 is quite good but it also stripped quite a lot from MLB 13 (PS3). Not ready to call it a next-gen title. MLB 15? Yes, probably. |
|
08-07-2014, 12:13 AM | #2310 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Green Bay, WI
|
Quote:
Destiny will be coming to PC. It's not an exclusive any more than Elder Scrolls or Fallout were Xbox 360 exclusives because they had exclusivity windows on DLC. |
|
08-07-2014, 12:14 AM | #2311 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Green Bay, WI
|
Quote:
Of course they are. They have a vested interest in obscuring the previous messaging and burying memory of the early "oops"ies. Plus, until recently, they had a price differential to overcome. Sony will put some bullets in the advertising gun at some point, I'm sure, but at this moment in time, Microsoft needs the ad blanket more than Sony does. |
|
08-07-2014, 12:19 AM | #2312 | |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
|
Quote:
This holiday season the PS4 will have two games that are already available on PC, victory to Sony! |
|
08-07-2014, 12:47 AM | #2313 | |
General Manager
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
|
Quote:
Both of those games heavily benefited the 360 for the same reason. Call it what you want, but it's a huge advantage for the PS4 to have that game have exclusive content for a full year. |
|
08-07-2014, 01:22 AM | #2314 | |
Coordinator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sydney, Australia
|
Quote:
I've played Killzone and I own Infamous: Second Son. I don't consider either a significant jump forward from last gen to be honest.
__________________
Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce |
|
08-07-2014, 05:24 AM | #2315 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Green Bay, WI
|
Quote:
It's really not, but keep deluding yourself. Destiny is a nice game. It's a nice game that's going to be available on five separate platforms - PS3, 360, PS4, Xbox One and PC. There are precisely zero people who are going to buy a PS4 because OMG EXCLUSIVE CONTENT FOR A YEAR. No. They'll buy Destiny on PS4 if they have a PS4 already or are planning to get one at the time the game launches. They'll buy it on Xbox One if they get a One for whatever godforsaken reason. If they either get wood over PC games or decide to wait on a price drop to move into the next generation, they'll get it on 360 and/or PS3. The only world in which exclusive content for a year matters for a game that's going to be available on essentially everything but the Wii U is the world is what we call "MBBF's Dream World." Everybody and their sister had the opportunity to play Destiny during the recent beta. It looks like it's going to be a good game. It isn't going to be a system seller. It's not going to sway anybody to one platform or the other based on anything but whatever decision they as a consumer had made already. |
|
08-07-2014, 08:16 AM | #2316 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
|
EA Access is going to have some sort of a bump for XB1 as well, especially with the big sports games coming out soon.
|
08-07-2014, 08:18 AM | #2317 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
|
Quote:
Honestly.. I don't care. I wouldn't be surprised if the XB1 makes huge strides starting with this holiday season though. |
|
08-07-2014, 09:29 AM | #2318 | |
Resident Alien
Join Date: Jun 2001
|
Quote:
Interesting. Probably not enough to sway me to Xbox 1, but at least makes my choice a bit harder. |
|
08-07-2014, 10:41 AM | #2319 | |
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2004
|
Install times are unreal. Picked up the PS4 basically at launch. To this day that remains my #1 impression. Install times are out of this world long...and mandatory. I read that they were longer on XBox before I picked up the console. Not sure how or if that is even possible. Still can't believe they shipped these consoles like this.
I can download and install a full game off Steam (8gb game) in less than 1/8 the time that it simply took me to install NBA 2k on the PS4 off the disk. Ditto with MLB.
__________________
Quote:
Last edited by dubb93 : 08-07-2014 at 10:51 AM. |
|
08-07-2014, 10:45 AM | #2320 | |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
|
Quote:
Is there still a long install process after downloading games and patches on the PS4? While using Steam most of the time that's what always annoys me most with my PS3. |
|
08-07-2014, 10:53 AM | #2321 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
|
With this an Dead Rising 3 it looks like the trend of XBox exclusives eventually coming to PC could continue this generation. Scalebound not coming to PC would have me strongly considering getting an XBox One though. |
08-07-2014, 10:55 AM | #2322 | ||
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2004
|
Quote:
No. The patches are actually extremely quick to install. It is the start up process that took me 3 hours to get NBA 2K's data to my hard drive and 2 with MLB that just have wondering WTF they were thinking. These installs are mandatory and there basically isn't any way to avoid them. You can play a stripped down version of the game with limited teams, players, graphics, and no commentary while it installs, but I have found that pointless. Basically for each new AAA game you buy, you have to dedicate 2-3 hours to your PS4 just sitting idle. As I said, I read when I did initial console research, but can't confirm that the XBox has longer install times. Either way, if you assume they both are probably similar in this regard, it is still unacceptable to me.
__________________
Quote:
|
||
08-07-2014, 11:02 AM | #2323 | |
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
|
Quote:
I don't know about patches, but games still take hours while Steam on my PC takes 15 minutes or less. They both share the same internet connection, so that's not the bottleneck. Both my XBox and PS4 have baffling long install times compared to Steam. I don't understand it. It's annoying as hell. And the XBox takes just as long if you buy the physical media, it must still re-download everything regardless of the media(is there anything on it?). Have not purchased physical media for my PS4, so I can't compare. Last edited by jeff061 : 08-07-2014 at 11:12 AM. |
|
08-07-2014, 11:05 AM | #2324 |
Death Herald
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas
|
Titanfall didn't take long at all to install, but that might have been because I still had the alpha and beta versions on the hard drive.
__________________
Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint |
08-07-2014, 11:07 AM | #2325 |
Pro Starter
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Winnipeg, MB
|
Almost a year into these two consoles and I still haven't seen or read a single thing that has me interested in buying one.
__________________
"Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime." |
08-07-2014, 11:11 AM | #2326 | |
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
|
Quote:
If I remember correctly Titanfall for me was going for 3 hours before I gave up and went to bed. Edit: That said, downloaded the DLC yesterday and I was shocked it only took 5 or 10 minutes. Granted it's just a few maps, but my expectations have been shot to shit. Last edited by jeff061 : 08-07-2014 at 11:13 AM. |
|
08-07-2014, 12:30 PM | #2327 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
|
Quote:
You are right there.. I use my XB1 to turn my tv and satellite box on and off Madden, NHL and FIFA coming soon as well as some other games that should showcase these next-gen boxes. |
|
08-07-2014, 12:42 PM | #2328 |
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
|
I just wish there were more local multi-player games. COD is just a horrible game and is pretty much all I have right now for that. Can't wait for Destiny.
|
08-07-2014, 12:55 PM | #2329 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
|
|
08-07-2014, 12:56 PM | #2330 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
|
Quote:
FIFA 14 was an incremental improvement. I'm expecting FIFA 15 and NHL 15 to be sweet. |
|
08-07-2014, 01:08 PM | #2331 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
|
Quote:
Like how the PS3 took a year to download a tiny as, and mandatory update(of course) every time I'd turn it on. |
|
08-07-2014, 01:49 PM | #2332 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
|
|
08-07-2014, 03:39 PM | #2333 | |
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Backwoods, SC
|
Quote:
This is what you hear in your head. Here is what I think everyone else sees. MBBF: Sony rules. X1 drools. Person A: Sony is outselling M$, but M$ is still viable MBBF: SONY RULES. Person B: M$ does this well but Sony overall may be the better choice. MBBF: Nah Ah. Sny does that better too. SONY RULES....M$ execs cleaning offices and preparing suicide notes Person C: M$ had a good slaes month as did Sony MBBF: SONY SONY SONY SONY No one here is saying M$ will pass Sony at any point....but kep setting that strawman up and knocking him down. |
|
08-07-2014, 03:54 PM | #2334 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Green Bay, WI
|
Quote:
Patches I haven't had a problem with. Install times have been hit-and-miss. MLB 14 took for-friggin'-ever to install to the point I could do anything. I don't know if it was downloading the extra data instead of installing off the disc or what, but it installed just enough to let me futz around in the menu, but that was it. I couldn't Derby, couldn't play an exhibition, couldn't start a career mode and check out the options...nothing. It was 2 hours before I could do anything but look at the menu. None of my other disc-based games have been that onerous. When I rented Need for Speed Rivals, it took maybe 5 minutes. inFamous was reasonably short. When I downloaded Lego Marvel after it went on sale for $10 a week or two ago, the initial download was 8 gigs or so. That went about as quickly as an equivalent Steam download. Then it installed enough to let me play the first mission while it downloaded the rest in the background. It needed maybe an extra 5 minutes after I finished that first mission before I was able to move on. I don't know if any of the system updates have addressed the install times or if it's just uneven and the next game I get will be more like MLB 14's interminable wait. |
|
08-07-2014, 06:20 PM | #2335 | |
Coordinator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sydney, Australia
|
Quote:
Like an abused housewife, each year I bring Madden into my house hoping it's changed and this will be the year it doesn't let me down. I'm at least expecting this Madden to be a significant step forward graphically and with a deeper career mode.
__________________
Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce |
|
08-07-2014, 11:48 PM | #2336 | |
College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Jan 2001
|
Quote:
I'll second that opinion for sure! Makes reading this thread very difficult at times. |
|
08-07-2014, 11:57 PM | #2337 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
|
There's an ignore button, use it.
|
08-08-2014, 07:47 AM | #2338 |
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Backwoods, SC
|
|
08-08-2014, 08:06 AM | #2339 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
|
Quote:
I'm with you here.. every year I say, it HAS to be better! |
|
08-08-2014, 08:20 AM | #2340 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
|
New Details Emerge on EA Access' Game Selection and Trials - IGN
More EA Access news.. games that go into the vault, stay in the vault. Quote:
|
|
08-08-2014, 08:48 AM | #2341 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Dayton, OH
|
Shit, did you guys hear that MS execs are cleaning offices and preparing suicide notes? I can't reveal my sources, but it's pretty deep stuff.
__________________
My listening habits |
08-10-2014, 11:25 AM | #2342 |
General Manager
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
|
Nice to see folders finally arriving.
Images from the next PS4 system update leaked, Showcasing new design, System notification and more - Behind Games - Gaming News! |
08-10-2014, 11:29 AM | #2343 |
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2013
|
Consoles are slowly catching up to PCs.
__________________
"I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney" |
08-10-2014, 02:01 PM | #2344 | |
College Prospect
Join Date: Jul 2001
|
Quote:
Update to the same article says it has been confirmed as fake. |
|
08-10-2014, 04:21 PM | #2345 |
General Manager
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
|
|
08-11-2014, 12:51 PM | #2346 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
|
EA Access is LIVE!
Just purchased a year.. downloading BF 4 and Peggle 2 now. Should be able to download Madden 15 in about 10 days. Join EA Access Today on Xbox One - EA News |
08-11-2014, 02:20 PM | #2347 | |
General Manager
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
|
Quote:
Saw the move by EA to no longer do public demos corresponded with the EA Access release. Only available to subscription members. IMO a great move by EA. They've lost a lot of sales due to demos with warts or people able to play early and realize it's mostly the same game again. If they don't do demos, that doesn't happen. And the people who have the subscription already are already bought in anyway, so it doesn't matter if they see the warts/issues. |
|
08-11-2014, 02:55 PM | #2348 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
|
Quote:
Do you really think they lose sales because of a demo? I'd like to see data to support that. The demos are like usually 5 mins of gameplay, so I never really take much from them. It DOES matter for those who have early access because I believe it's mostly the full game, so they can basically play a "gold" version of the game to really gain impressions. Those who pay for only a month at $4.99 (or the full year) are basically "demoing" the game anyway and haven't bought into anything. You still have to purchase the game when it releases (but get a 10% discount). I don't think it's much different than the Season Ticket they had for the 360 and ps3. Last edited by MizzouRah : 08-11-2014 at 02:58 PM. |
|
08-11-2014, 02:57 PM | #2349 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Sep 2004
|
Quote:
Weird. On my PS4, both NBA 2K14 and MLB took maybe 30-45 minutes. Not sure why yours took so long.
__________________
2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) |
|
08-11-2014, 03:12 PM | #2350 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
|
Quote:
Really? If I had an XBox I'd say "Fuck them in their ears" to that. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 08-11-2014 at 03:14 PM. |
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
Thread Tools | |
|
|