The Official 2013 MLB Thread - Page 47

BishopMVP · 10-05-2013, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

SAT Game #2@BOS: David Price
SUN TRAVEL DAY
MON Game #3@TBY: Alex Cobb (just got my tix for this one.)
TUE Game #4@TBY: Chris Archer
THU TRAVEL DAY
FRI Game #5@BOS: David Price

I'm making some assumptions on the 2nd travel day...so if that's right I will assume we'll just avoid Hellickson and go back to Price. That's a lot of pressure to put on him, but hey, he knows how to handle this better than anybody so he might just pull of the upset two'fer in Boston.

2nd travel day + Game 5 are moved up a day, but that's what I would have assumed for TB's rotation as well. However, now that they've pitched Chris Archer in relief (and really, mop-up duty), it would strongly imply that they're planning to pitch Hellickson or Matt Moore on 3 days rest there in Game 4... neither of which make much sense to me. I know Moore's previous success against Boston (and Boston's lower hitting stats vs. lefties), but he hasn't been the same pitcher since coming off the DL. Only getting past the 5th inning once in 7 starts now, 22 BB in 23.2 IP and lower fastball velocity. Hellickson 43 IP, 36 ER since the trade deadline, Archer 60 IP, 28 ER in that time frame (and that cuts out his brilliant July with 37 IP, 3 ER). I mean, Price scares me, but it doesn't seem like TB/Maddon is maximizing its chance to get to that Game 5.

(After checking, looks like Maddon said it'd be Hellickson in Game 4.)

BishopMVP · 10-05-2013, 01:38 AM

Dola - it's kind of cool to see so many players who came up through the Red Sox system in the playoffs. I count 17 in the AL - Moss, Reddick, Lowrie (A's) Iglesias, Sanchez, Alvarez (Tigers), Ellsbury, Pedroia, Middlebrooks, Nava, Bogaerts, Buchholz, Lester, Doubront, Tazawa, Workman, Breslow (Red Sox) - and Hanley+Fedorowicz in LA. Not quite Cardinals level of Homegrown players, but much better than most people have had the system the last 10-12 years.

fantom1979 · 10-05-2013, 02:01 AM

Just to harp on the Marvin Lewis thing some more.

As an outside observer, I have always thought Lewis was an average coach getting average results from average talent. I admit that I watch probably a total of an hour of Bengals games every year, but I never sit there at the beginning of the season and think of the Bengals as a superbowl contender. Except for a couple of Palmer years, they really have never had a real good QB, never really had a real dominate defense, and yet he has made the playoffs 4 of 10 years and has a .500 record. I don't think Cincinnati is lucky to have Lewis, but I think there are plenty of coaches that have done worse with more.

rowech · 10-05-2013, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cougarfreak

Have you ever watched Marvin Lewis try to manage a clock? Or watched a press conference and viewed his condescending attitude? Dude is freaking tool. And he's not a very good coach. It was time for Baker to go. He'd lost the clubhouse something awful, and he was a player's manager. Inmates were running the asylum. Google "Brandon Philips ctrent", and watch Dusty sit there with a stupid smile on his face while one of his players comes into his office and calls a beat reporter a fat mother****. His reaction? "I ain't in this". Total ineptitude. Sums up the Reds this year when it counted. I think both Lewis and Baker have done good jobs getting teams to respectability. Neither is going to outcoach or manage any of their peers anytime soon.

Exactly how I feel. Like both guys, and they've both been good for their teams, but I don't think either team is getting to the next level with them in charge. Both teams have great talent but constantly show they are not in control of Ll the little things it takes to be great. Their talent can get them by most times but sometimes that little stuff is what kills you.

panerd · 10-05-2013, 06:44 AM

I don't know I guess my perspective comes from being a 39 year old guy. So those Kenny Anderson teams were too early for me and the Boomer teams are what got me into following the Bengals. Then 15 years of pure shit. So I guess my expectations are decididly low but also a little more realistic. Hate to pull a MBBF but the same thing is true about Mizzou football. We were shit for 20 years and Pinkel pulled the team out of the gutter. Now people who started following the team when they were good in NCAA '07 want him fired. Perspective people, Mizzou aint Notre Dame. Cincinnati aint Green Bay or Pittsburgh.

As for Dusty Baker the Reds do have a lot more tradition and should be able to expect a little more. But again 3-90 win seasons and a firing? That's Yankee/Red Sox expectations.

cougarfreak · 10-05-2013, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by panerd

I don't know I guess my perspective comes from being a 39 year old guy. So those Kenny Anderson teams were too early for me and the Boomer teams are what got me into following the Bengals. Then 15 years of pure shit. So I guess my expectations are decididly low but also a little more realistic. Hate to pull a MBBF but the same thing is true about Mizzou football. We were shit for 20 years and Pinkel pulled the team out of the gutter. Now people who started following the team when they were good in NCAA '07 want him fired. Perspective people, Mizzou aint Notre Dame. Cincinnati aint Green Bay or Pittsburgh.

As for Dusty Baker the Reds do have a lot more tradition and should be able to expect a little more. But again 3-90 win seasons and a firing? That's Yankee/Red Sox expectations.

The NFL is cyclical, and designed to be. I wouldn't want to be Pittsburgh right now. Baker had to go, it's nice to see an owner with expectations and high standards. It's not all on Baker for sure, but he's the captain of the ship that can make it past the first round of the playoffs.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-05-2013, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by panerd

But again 3-90 win seasons and a firing? That's Yankee/Red Sox expectations.

Is it that unreasonable to expect at least one post-season series win?

rowech · 10-05-2013, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Is it that unreasonable to expect at least one post-season series win?

In addition, in 2010 it was a three game sweep. In 2011, after up 2-0 it was a three game sweep. This year, it was losing six in a row to finish. At some point, it's not good enough.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-05-2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rowech

In addition, in 2010 it was a three game sweep. In 2011, after up 2-0 it was a three game sweep. This year, it was losing six in a row to finish. At some point, it's not good enough.

Definitely ain't gotta tell nobody in Atlanta about that feeling, that's for sure

Matthean · 10-05-2013, 09:46 AM

I don't envy a team who gets Verlander second.

JPhillips · 10-05-2013, 09:55 AM

After reading Dusty's comments I don't think this had anything to do with expectations being to high. According to Dusty he was asked to make coaching changes, specifically firing Jacoby, and he refused. He was also told that the team seemed to lack fire down the stretch. He then suggested that maybe it was time for him to go. After that the owner and GM agreed to fire him.

That sounds like a guy that saw himself above the owner. Dropping a threat like, maybe it's time for me to go, gives ownership two choices, either they let Dusty stay and codify that he's the final say or they call his bluff and move on.

cuervo72 · 10-05-2013, 10:02 AM

Davey Johnson's available...

molson · 10-05-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Is it that unreasonable to expect at least one post-season series win?

I don't know, but the expectations for the next guy apparently will be to do better, to win 90+ games and get to the NLCS and beyond. That won't be an easy or desirable spot.

rowech · 10-05-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

After reading Dusty's comments I don't think this had anything to do with expectations being to high. According to Dusty he was asked to make coaching changes, specifically firing Jacoby, and he refused. He was also told that the team seemed to lack fire down the stretch. He then suggested that maybe it was time for him to go. After that the owner and GM agreed to fire him.

That sounds like a guy that saw himself above the owner. Dropping a threat like, maybe it's time for me to go, gives ownership two choices, either they let Dusty stay and codify that he's the final say or they call his bluff and move on.

My take as well. Dusty thought he was the single most important piece of the entire organization. I also want to know who decided not to add anyone at the deadline. I wonder if Dusty told them I don't want anybody else.

frnk55 · 10-05-2013, 12:08 PM

It's to bad for the Reds that Dale Sveum got picked up by the Royals.

JPhillips · 10-05-2013, 12:28 PM

I'll be surprised if Brian Price doesn't move up from pitching coach. He's been great and the players like his constant demands for accountability.

MizzouRah · 10-05-2013, 04:20 PM

There's always LaRussa Reds fans.. DOH!

SirFozzie · 10-05-2013, 08:20 PM

What the hell is up with Maddon leaving in Price for so long?

Swaggs · 10-06-2013, 07:05 PM

Who knows how long it will last, but what a fun Pirates' season!

(especially given how terrible the Steelers and WVU have been)

Crapshoot · 10-06-2013, 07:22 PM

Go Pirates! My number one rooting interest this post-season. I still remember going to Three Rivers and have some guy tell me that "Pat Meares"(sp?) was going to be the difference in the Pirates success that year.

MrBug708 · 10-06-2013, 11:19 PM

Hanley is beastly

MrBug708 · 10-07-2013, 12:32 AM

Just got back from the Dodger game. Electric crowd to say the least.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-07-2013, 01:42 PM

I am at work in the Renaissance Center in downtown Detroit, which is about a mile and a half or so from Comerica Park and I can hear the crowd roaring with each big hit.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-07-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I am at work in the Renaissance Center in downtown Detroit, which is about a mile and a half or so from Comerica Park and I can hear the crowd roaring with each big hit.

And now there is silence...

sterlingice · 10-07-2013, 02:30 PM

Is Renaissance Center worth a visit if in Detroit? How's the view? And isn't there supposed to be some sort of GM museum in there somewhere?

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miami_fan · 10-07-2013, 03:35 PM

Baseball players are soooo sensitive.

Ronnie Dobbs3 · 10-07-2013, 03:39 PM

HEY GUYS WACHA IS PERFECT THROUGH FIVE

ISiddiqui · 10-07-2013, 03:42 PM

So it looks like Kershaw is going for the Dodgers on 3 days rest tonight:

Clayton Kershaw to start for Los Angeles Dodgers in Game 4 of National League Division Series | MLB.com: News

Atlanta still seems to be going with Freddie Garcia....

Ronnie Dobbs3 · 10-07-2013, 03:44 PM

Now Wacha just has a no hitter through 5

tucker rocky · 10-07-2013, 04:21 PM

eff bombs by random_sports

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Arles · 10-07-2013, 05:07 PM

Nail-biting win by the Cards in a clutch game. Hopefully they can pull off the win at home and move on.

BishopMVP · 10-07-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

So it looks like Kershaw is going for the Dodgers on 3 days rest tonight:

Clayton Kershaw to start for Los Angeles Dodgers in Game 4 of National League Division Series | MLB.com: News

Atlanta still seems to be going with Freddie Garcia....

I question that on LA's part. With the way your offense is playing/who the opponent is pitching, go with Nolasco and see if you can get Kershaw lined up for Game 1 of the NLCS.

MrBug708 · 10-07-2013, 05:44 PM

The problem is that if Nolasco doesnt get it down, you risk running out Kershaw for game 3 and probably game 7 in the second round.

But I agree, not a huge fan of this move

Vince, Pt. II · 10-07-2013, 05:59 PM

...isn't the only way to get Kershaw more than twice in the next series if Nolasco wins today? If Kershaw pitches today, he's unavailable until at least game 2 of the NLCS, right?

BishopMVP · 10-07-2013, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

...isn't the only way to get Kershaw more than twice in the next series if Nolasco wins today? If Kershaw pitches today, he's unavailable until at least game 2 of the NLCS, right?

Unless there's a rainout or they have him throw Game 1 (Friday) on 3 days rest again. If Game 1 was Saturday and this lined him up for 1/4/potential relief in Game 7 I'd be all for it, but it doesn't seem like there's any difference between starting 2 and 6 or 3 and 7.

SackAttack · 10-07-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I question that on LA's part. With the way your offense is playing/who the opponent is pitching, go with Nolasco and see if you can get Kershaw lined up for Game 1 of the NLCS.

LA's offense has been really inconsistent of late. They SHOW UP and then they kind of roll over and die and then O HAI I CAN HAZ RUNZ and then...

That's the thing. Yeah, two out of the three games, the offense has been there. But for most of September it was pretty anemic. You can't count on it being there tonight, even with Kershaw on the mound. I'm not saying I'm hugely a fan of running him out there on short rest for the first time after a 124 pitch outing, but you can use Nolasco as the long man, and you've got Greinke in the hole for Game 5, if necessary.

There's at least a case to be made. I don't know that I agree with it, but there's a case to be made.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-07-2013, 06:18 PM

The one thing that I believe shouldn't be a big factor here is Garcia going for ATL. Three September starts (WAS,PHL,MIL) he gave up 4 earned runs in 19 2/3rds innings. Plus, IIRC, he has more post-season experience than the rest of the Braves roster combined, and they've looked rather starstruck during the series to me thus far.

He may very well get shelled but at this point I feel as good about sending him out tonight as I would Medlen on short rest

MizzouRah · 10-07-2013, 08:40 PM

Wacha.. what a big game pitched by him today. He's been fantastic!

Now Waino needs to seal the deal and I hope Matheny never pitches Lynn again this season.

PilotMan · 10-07-2013, 08:53 PM

Crawford! Picking up right where we left off last night!

tarcone · 10-07-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Wacha.. what a big game pitched by him today. He's been fantastic!

Now Waino needs to seal the deal and I hope Matheny never pitches Lynn again this season.

Please make this true.
They were talking on the radio during Lynns game. Said he was hot in September and that earned him his spot. Then they said he pitched against the Cubs, Rockies and Brewers twice. Yeah, My dead grandma would be considered hot pitching against them in September.

Miller should've and should be in the rotation.

And to echo the suggestion that LaRussa should go to the Reds. Dont forget that Jockety likes LaRussa. And I imagine Duncan is available to be the pitching coach. Stranger things have happened.

PilotMan · 10-07-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Crawford! Picking up right where we left off last night!

BOOOOOOOOOM!

Lathum · 10-07-2013, 09:31 PM

PETA will not approve of that walk off home run.

sterlingice · 10-07-2013, 09:39 PM

It wasn't really a bad pitch.

Also, Longoria earlier in the game, shades of a couple of years ago:
MLB.com Gameday | MLB.com: Gameday

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Easy Mac · 10-07-2013, 09:44 PM

As a Braves fan, I can't really be upset over the season. If you would have told me the Braves would win the division going away with their two highest paid players hitting under .200, pretty much the whole season without Beachy, half the season without Hudson, and losing Venters and O'Flaherty early for the year, I would have said it was miraculous.

Still can't help but be disappointed in how they've shot the bed in the playoffs.

miami_fan · 10-07-2013, 11:44 PM

Crushed!

Easy Mac · 10-07-2013, 11:47 PM

Why wasn't Kimbrel out there. Even if Carpenter went through unscathed, Kimbrel would pitch to 8-9-1. Wouldn't you rather have your better pitching going 5-6-7?

PilotMan · 10-07-2013, 11:50 PM

That was a very emotional moment for me. God I hope Kenley locks this down.

MrBug708 · 10-07-2013, 11:51 PM

Boom!

BishopMVP · 10-07-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

It wasn't really a bad pitch.

Lobaton off Uehara - baseball can be a funny game sometimes. (Lot easier to say when that walk-off made it 2-1 Red Sox instead of losing a series.) Overall, I'd say that was a pretty poorly managed game by both managers (I'm never a fan of pulling Ortiz for a pinch-runner in a tie game because it always comes back to bite us in the ass, pinch-hitting Johnny Gomes when you know he'll be intentionally walked and it'll set up Salty/Drew vs. a lefty instead of just letting Nava hit, and then we don't pinch hit Xander for Drew against a lefty, but instead pinch run him for Middlebrooks? There's a negligible difference in speed there), and as much as I'd love to complain about the strike zone, it was inconsistent on the outside corner for both teams, and the Red Sox benefited from a couple missed calls (Berry was definitely out at second, Ellsbury was probably out at 3rd although that one was very close.)

PilotMan · 10-08-2013, 12:09 AM

Ironic Dodger boxscore item of the night:

Dodgers RISP: 1-9 (H Ramirez 0-2, A Ellis 0-1, Y Puig 0-1, M Ellis 0-1, A Gonzalez 0-3, J Uribe 1-1)

Just goes to show how bad the team struggled. The errors were near killers. I think without Kershaw on the mound we lose this game.

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10-05-2013, 01:38 AM	#2302
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fantom1979 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sterling Heights, Mi	Just to harp on the Marvin Lewis thing some more. As an outside observer, I have always thought Lewis was an average coach getting average results from average talent. I admit that I watch probably a total of an hour of Bengals games every year, but I never sit there at the beginning of the season and think of the Bengals as a superbowl contender. Except for a couple of Palmer years, they really have never had a real good QB, never really had a real dominate defense, and yet he has made the playoffs 4 of 10 years and has a .500 record. I don't think Cincinnati is lucky to have Lewis, but I think there are plenty of coaches that have done worse with more.

10-05-2013, 06:44 AM	#2305
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	I don't know I guess my perspective comes from being a 39 year old guy. So those Kenny Anderson teams were too early for me and the Boomer teams are what got me into following the Bengals. Then 15 years of pure shit. So I guess my expectations are decididly low but also a little more realistic. Hate to pull a MBBF but the same thing is true about Mizzou football. We were shit for 20 years and Pinkel pulled the team out of the gutter. Now people who started following the team when they were good in NCAA '07 want him fired. Perspective people, Mizzou aint Notre Dame. Cincinnati aint Green Bay or Pittsburgh. As for Dusty Baker the Reds do have a lot more tradition and should be able to expect a little more. But again 3-90 win seasons and a firing? That's Yankee/Red Sox expectations.

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MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	The problem is that if Nolasco doesnt get it down, you risk running out Kershaw for game 3 and probably game 7 in the second round. But I agree, not a huge fan of this move

10-07-2013, 05:59 PM	#2334
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	...isn't the only way to get Kershaw more than twice in the next series if Nolasco wins today? If Kershaw pitches today, he's unavailable until at least game 2 of the NLCS, right?

10-07-2013, 06:18 PM	#2337
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	The one thing that I believe shouldn't be a big factor here is Garcia going for ATL. Three September starts (WAS,PHL,MIL) he gave up 4 earned runs in 19 2/3rds innings. Plus, IIRC, he has more post-season experience than the rest of the Braves roster combined, and they've looked rather starstruck during the series to me thus far. He may very well get shelled but at this point I feel as good about sending him out tonight as I would Medlen on short rest __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 10-07-2013 at 06:18 PM.

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MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Wacha.. what a big game pitched by him today. He's been fantastic! Now Waino needs to seal the deal and I hope Matheny never pitches Lynn again this season.

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miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Crushed! __________________ "Do not be indifferent in the face of historical lies. Do not be indifferent when you see the past being exploited for the needs of contemporary politics. Do not be indifferent when any minority suffers discrimination. For it's the essence of democracy that the majority wields the power, but at the same time, the rights of the minority must be respected." Marian Turski- former prisoner of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration and death camp

10-07-2013, 11:47 PM	#2346
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Why wasn't Kimbrel out there. Even if Carpenter went through unscathed, Kimbrel would pitch to 8-9-1. Wouldn't you rather have your better pitching going 5-6-7?

10-07-2013, 11:50 PM	#2347
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	That was a very emotional moment for me. God I hope Kenley locks this down. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

10-07-2013, 11:51 PM	#2348
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Boom!

10-08-2013, 12:09 AM	#2350
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Ironic Dodger boxscore item of the night: Dodgers RISP: 1-9 (H Ramirez 0-2, A Ellis 0-1, Y Puig 0-1, M Ellis 0-1, A Gonzalez 0-3, J Uribe 1-1) Just goes to show how bad the team struggled. The errors were near killers. I think without Kershaw on the mound we lose this game. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.