The 2016 College Football Coaching Carousel Thread

[General Mike]

Minnesota fires Claeys.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Minnesota fires Claeys.

Fourth coach in a row that failed to beat Wisconsin.

Will the Goofs be able to convince PJ Fleck to go to that dumpster fire? (not really a dumpster fire on the field but off.......)

[tarcone]

Jeez. I thought that guy did a prettu good job.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by lungs

Fourth coach in a row that failed to beat Wisconsin.

Will the Goofs be able to convince PJ Fleck to go to that dumpster fire? (not really a dumpster fire on the field but off.......)

The timing suggests that they think they've got someone lined up who wasn't available yet. It would be an interesting move for both sides.

[digamma]

Tough to overcome pretty clear insubordination.

[MrBug708]

Ucla hires Jedd Fisch to be their new OC.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Jeez. I thought that guy did a prettu good job.

For a team that had no QB to speak of, yeah, it wasn't a bad job IMO.
He could have done some things better, not sure how much better that would have made their final record however.

[Kodos]

Rumor that Kevin Wilson will be the new OC at Ohio State.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

The timing suggests that they think they've got someone lined up who wasn't available yet. It would be an interesting move for both sides.

I wonder if they think they have a shot at Chip Kelly?

[tarcone]

PJ Fleck is the rumor Im hearing for Minny

And Iowa hangs onto a dead fish like Greg Davis while OSU, who has gone 61-6 under Meyer, fires their OC.

F Ferentz

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

I wonder if they think they have a shot at Chip Kelly?

That would certainly be interesting.

[sovereignstar v2]

I would be amazed if the Minnesota AD has/had anyone lined up. Minnesota is a graveyard for college football coaches and any half-sexy name is not going to go there. The End.

[CU Tiger]

Sexual assault cover ups cost you jobs these days

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Sexual assault cover ups cost you jobs these days

You have information I haven't seen? Like Digamma I just thought he clearly undermined the (embattled) AD & President during that kerfuffle. Which is also an obvious way to get yourself fired unless you're a legend at a football factory.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Sexual assault cover ups cost you jobs these days

As does supporting players who grew weary of the p.c. assaults on college campuses these days.

The players were right to demand answers, the coach was right to support them in that effort.

I don't know if he's the right coach for the situation there but this was more about punishing him for doing the right thing than anything else.

[digamma]

The press here is reporting that he had met privately with the AD and President and signed off on the suspensions, thus the insubordination.

The local mood is that there was really no other option.

Plus, there's clearly a difference between criminal charges and having your team in the headlines for something that is probably just a wee bit north of a p.c. assault on a college campus. The players folded pretty quickly once they saw the university's report.

[jbergey22]

Les Miles interviewing for the Minnesota job.

http://kfan.iheart.com/onair/gopher-...twin-15442606/

[tarcone]

Greg Davis is going to have a diminished role on the coaching staff. WTF is going on?
Man, Im just frustrated at this point.

In regards to Miles, that means another B1G team with a better coach than Iowa.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by digamma

Plus, there's clearly a difference between criminal charges and having your team in the headlines for something that is probably just a wee bit north of a p.c. assault on a college campus.

There is no justification for the now common lynch mobs posing as committees that have infected college campuses afaic. The players were forced to battle a demon that should never have been conjured in the first place.

I'd trust the word of a crack dealer & two guys named Mohammed parking a load of fertilizer outside Air Force One before I'd trust one of these faux commissions/panels. Among the very worst of the very worst victim culture left wing whackadoos.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

There is no justification for the now common lynch mobs posing as committees that have infected college campuses afaic. The players were forced to battle a demon that should never have been conjured in the first place.

I'd trust the word of a crack dealer & two guys named Mohammed parking a load of fertilizer outside Air Force One before I'd trust one of these faux commissions/panels. Among the very worst of the very worst victim culture left wing whackadoos.

Did you even read the report? It was disgusting the things that are mentioned in there.

Anyway, Claeys was an easy scapegoat for the whole thing because of his contract situation. When you give a guy a 3 year deal, you know you have no intention of keeping him long term, so just give up the charade.

[mckerney]

ITS OFFICIAL: PJ Fleck is leaving WMU for Minnesota head coach position.

— WZZM 13 On Your Side (@wzzm13) January 6, 2017

[Young Drachma]

That's just such a weird move for him, but I guess he felt like he had to strike while the iron is hot. Plus that is a lot of money to leave on the table to slum it in Kalamazoo. But man...such a weird move. AD knew he was doing though, if you can get the hottest coach on the market you gotta take him.

I guess Fleck didn't think he could build Boise Midwest, so he got out after an almost undefeated season.

Also some pretty solid jokes in reddit/CFB including one flipping
"Row the Boat" with "Shovel The Snow"

[Young Drachma]

Dola:

I guess the reddit types said that he for sure only wanted to coach in the Midwest, that he wanted Northwestern because he's from that area but of course that's not gonna open anytime soon and wanted to live in a city, which is why Purdue was never in play after they secretly visited Lafayette this year...

And so apparently the story is/was that if Minnesota opened he'd for sure take it and well, so here we are. Such a trip. Interesting, we'll see how that goes.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Did you even read the report? It was disgusting the things that are mentioned in there.

I have little confidence in reports prepared in the manner this one was.

It could be the most heinous assault in the history of the world.
It could also be considerable creativity applied to create a predetermined outcome.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I'd trust the word of a crack dealer & two guys named Mohammed parking a load of fertilizer outside Air Force One before I'd trust one of these faux commissions/panels. Among the very worst of the very worst victim culture left wing whackadoos.

I'm sure muns really appreciates the level of contempt you have for his job.

[muns]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I have little confidence in reports prepared in the manner this one was.

It could be the most heinous assault in the history of the world.
It could also be considerable creativity applied to create a predetermined outcome.

Please just give it up here as you think you know what you are talking about and you simply don't.

Those reports take WEEKS, not hours to do. I have better things to do with my time, just as every single person doing that job does. We aren't the boggy man, and not for nothing, when you find someone responsible, you have to go to bed at night knowing that you are basically ending their college career, which alters their life earnings. You change everything, and knowing that is hard.

So in short, its not a light decision as you seem to suggest that it is because the investigators name is attached to it.

Real stuff, emotional stuff, gets played out on all THREE ends. The victim, the perpetrator, and the investigator. There is no predetermined outcome.

Last thought. If you or anybody else actually read both reports, you would know that The University of Minnesota just ran circles around the police department in this case. Our justice system failed here, because wins and losses matter more on somebody's court record. Someone simply didn't want to risk it.

[muns]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

I'm sure muns really appreciates the level of contempt you have for his job.

ehhhh it's honestly not a big deal, but thanks bud.

I understand why people don't like it. Hell I didn't want to do it myself at first. But as time goes by, and you can clearly see it from this past case, colleges and universities are getting trained more, and unless something is overhauled within the justice system, will eventually get better at doing these cases. I mean the paper work alone is staggering in this case. 80+ pages to 20+ pages. I mean come on. How does a university spend more time investigating than the police?

[Butter]

Yes, but since a couple of girls famously lied or exaggerated, that means they all do. Right Jon?

[digamma]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I have little confidence in reports prepared in the manner this one was.

It could be the most heinous assault in the history of the world.
It could also be considerable creativity applied to create a predetermined outcome.

The irony here is strong.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I have little confidence in reports prepared in the manner this one was.

It could be the most heinous assault in the history of the world.
It could also be considerable creativity applied to create a predetermined outcome.

Why do you so vigorously defend rape?

[CU Tiger]

I've read the report and while it honestly sounded more like a pron script than a witch hunt.

I think there is considerable room in the middle for both sides here.
I suspect the young lady started out willingly (heck she may have been a willing participant through the whole thing I dont know) then at some point said either:
A) what have I done or
B) (And more likely in my experience) What will my friends think if they find out about this.

or possibly she was ok with several of the guys but one of them she either was turned off by, or he was too rough with her or whatever. What we dont know, and what I fear here, if she started willingly did she ever express that she changed her mind. That to me is the razor thin line between between college debauchery one over board and criminal conduct.

[tarcone]

I remember a case at Iowa many years ago. A young lady showed up at the dorm room of one of our BB players. She had a long coat on. And nothing else. And had been drinking.
The next day she went to the ER and had anal bruising.

Seems she wasnt really thinking clearly when she went there. The player was charged with rape. Was it? Only 2 people know for sure. But I think the girl got in way over her head on that one. And the player got nailed.

[digamma]

What if I told you the players may have been smoking marijuana?

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by digamma

What if I told you the players may have been smoking marijuana?

What if I told you the young lady may have as well? (we know she was taking vodka shots)
What does that change?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by digamma

What if I told you the players may have been smoking marijuana?

Then lock their asses up. There's a process for that after all.
And I can continue to advocated for strengthening that process & the penalties it entails.

Even my draconian "perfect world" for that topic (2nd offense = capital crime) only kicks in once you adjust the legal procedure accordingly.

There's not an element of my positions or proposals that calls for handing enforcement powers to an agenda-laden committee and handing them rope.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

What if I told you the young lady may have as well? (we know she was taking vodka shots)
What does that change?

{gasp} How dare you.

No one but males can ever be assigned any responsibility for anything that bad that happens. What sort of neanderthal are you?

[sovereignstar v2]

Originally Posted by mckerney

ITS OFFICIAL: PJ Fleck is leaving WMU for Minnesota head coach position.

— WZZM 13 On Your Side (@wzzm13) January 6, 2017

Wahwahweewah. Happy for my negative ass to be wrong. Long way to go, but this seems like a step in the right direction.

[tarcone]

Greg Davis retires.
Thank the Lord.

Brian Ferentz expected to take over.
God damn it.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

Wahwahweewah. Happy for my negative ass to be wrong. Long way to go, but this seems like a step in the right direction.

How is there a long way to go when you're coming off the best season since Glen Mason was there and recruiting has been middle of the B1G like it should be?

[HomerSimpson98]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Greg Davis retires.
Thank the Lord.

Brian Ferentz expected to take over.
God damn it.

lol

[lungs]

Now that PJ Fleck has experience losing to Wisconsin, he is a perfect fit for the Gophers

[tarcone]

Looks like our WR coach Bobby Kennedy is gone also. Which is another great thing.

Too bad this is as far as it goes.

[sovereignstar v2]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

How is there a long way to go when you're coming off the best season since Glen Mason was there and recruiting has been middle of the B1G like it should be?

I guess it depends on what your goal is. My goal for football and basketball has basically been, "why the f**k can't we be doing what Wisconsin is?"

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

I guess it depends on what your goal is. My goal for football and basketball has basically been, "why the f**k can't we be doing what Wisconsin is?"

I hear you, bro

[CU Tiger]

Lol. So apparently Western Michigan owns the trademark on Row the Boat and Fleck can't use it anymore.

I was justill listening a bit on the radio and haven't had a chance to dive in but this sounds like a fun direction to head in.

[CU Tiger]

Ole Miss is about to hire Trooper Taylor...this is a giant middle finger pointed right at the NCAA .

Probation sharks swimming and you hire the only coach on the planet to make John Blake blush....

[CrescentMoonie]

Dykes fired at Cal.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Dykes fired at Cal.

Odd timing, especially since they haven't announced a new hire right on the heels of the firing. I get firing Dykes, but why now and not a month ago?

I'm sure Cal fans want Chip Kelly, but it sounds like Justin Wilcox is the front-runner. Pretty good DC, and he should be able to assemble a good staff (rumors of Tosh coming back which will make Cal fans' heads explode). Rumors that he'd target Washington's Jimmy Lake for DC, but I don't see that as likely to work out, and besides - you'd expect him to go after his buddy Peter Sirmon instead.

[lungs]

Sounds like Cal is going with Justin Wilcox, DC from Wisconsin.

I have a feeling that we'll see Jim Leonhard eventually take over Wisconsin's defense. Maybe not yet, but it's coming. Until then, Bucky will plug and play.

[tarcone]

Did you see the NCAA is allowing the hiring of a 10th coach.

Interesting development.