WW XCII Sparta -- Claimed by Villagers - Page 5

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

.if he is telling the truth, that may actually be the best choice for us, as was pointed out before...we have a 50% chance of driving a wolf out of town

Saldana, "if" I'm telling the truth I'm the good marathon runner, so explain to me again how this is the best choice?

claphamsa · 04-20-2009, 01:03 PM

Ill answer that... why the hell would you fake reveal as the marathon runner? its already been suggested that that is a great lynch target.... so who cares if you say you are good. its not like you would say you are the bad one....

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 01:04 PM

Anyone that has played with me knows that I'm not prone to spinning things, I tend to lay low rather be in the thick of things, particularly as a wolf. That being said, pick what you will but my reveal narrows down your options by another person which means you have an even better shot at a wolf.

Let's ASSUME for a minute you buy that DT is most likely good, you believe that I am good, and you (whoever you may be) are a good person, that means with 10 of us in this room, you are down to 7 options. At least 2 of those 7 are wolves, meaning you have a nearly 30% of lynching one.

Yeah, it takes a lot of faith/trust/whatever, but it's not a bad play at all. And yeah, AS I pointed out, taking me out is a 50-50 wolf play (except it's really 0% because my PM says I'm the good one).

The Jackal · 04-20-2009, 01:08 PM

I'm still not sure what I'm doing. I went back to figure out why BK was on Poli and then remembered that two of you have declared war already, and I don't really think that's a good idea. Obviously the damage has been done since you can't unvote it, but it could be a wolf play to get war votes in early to try and win a city without even getting all the villagers out.

So I'm leaning towards sticking with my vote, but I understand why people would be tempted to vote PB.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 01:11 PM

I'm off to teach, so I may not be back in time but if I'm not, good luck village.

Danny · 04-20-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Anyone that has played with me knows that I'm not prone to spinning things, I tend to lay low rather be in the thick of things, particularly as a wolf. That being said, pick what you will but my reveal narrows down your options by another person which means you have an even better shot at a wolf.

Let's ASSUME for a minute you buy that DT is most likely good, you believe that I am good, and you (whoever you may be) are a good person, that means with 10 of us in this room, you are down to 7 options. At least 2 of those 7 are wolves, meaning you have a nearly 30% of lynching one.

Yeah, it takes a lot of faith/trust/whatever, but it's not a bad play at all. And yeah, AS I pointed out, taking me out is a 50-50 wolf play (except it's really 0% because my PM says I'm the good one).

You might be good, but your whole just simply assume DT and I am good line of reasoning strikes me the wrong way. Even if you are a villager, you have no way of knowing if DT is good or not. It's already been stated he usually doesn't check his PM's until later in the day. My vote is staying put when I leave, but I will reevaluate if I make it back on before deadline.

saldana · 04-20-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

Im still confused by this... If we find out someone is a wolf when we lynch them.... how would they not just get killed very soon in hades?

because no one in hades knows that until another one of us gets killed and sent there.

saldana · 04-20-2009, 01:19 PM

just a reminder, get your PM votes for the Ephor in before 3EST.

claphamsa · 04-20-2009, 01:19 PM

right... so unless the wolves intentionally send their own people there, well know one turn later on everyone who shows up if they are a wolf or not...

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 01:22 PM

Sparta Vote Count:

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saldana -- 0
Danny -- 0
jeheinz72 -- 0
dubb93 -- 2 jeheinz72 (19) PurdueBrad (149)
The Jackal -- 1 Poli (25)
Poli -- 2 The Jackal (26) Barkeep49 (41)
DaddyTorgo -- 1 claphamsa (120)
Barkeep49 -- 0
PurdueBrad -- 3 dubb93 (147) Danny (187) saldana (197)

jeheinz72 · 04-20-2009, 01:22 PM

Anyone got a vote count?

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Anyone got a vote count?

Try going back in time.

jeheinz72 · 04-20-2009, 01:26 PM

I don't think I'm moving. Even if I'm wrong, I don't like the runaway idea.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 02:01 PM

Well, deadline and nobody here to discuss. Good luck village...off to Athens.

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Well, deadline and nobody here to discuss. Good luck village...off to Athens.

You've been headbanging for too long -- deadline isn't for another hour.

Barkeep49 · 04-20-2009, 02:05 PM

Unvote Poli
Vote PB

I never thought we'd find the marathon runner through revelation, but I maintain my 50/50 analysis. And when they send us their marathon runner, we should kill them too.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

You've been headbanging for too long -- deadline isn't for another hour.

Who knew? I thought deadline was an hour ago.

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Who knew? I thought deadline was an hour ago.

Man, if the Athens people heard about this...

claphamsa · 04-20-2009, 02:11 PM

That dubb cant tell time?

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

That dubb cant tell time?

Well, dubb and PB. Athens is known for having been a city of thinkers, while Sparta was more warlike and less philosophical. The Athenians already razzed you guys for it in the main thread, and this isn't exactly helping your case!

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Well, dubb and PB. Athens is known for having been a city of thinkers, while Sparta was more warlike and less philosophical. The Athenians already razzed you guys for it in the main thread, and this isn't exactly helping your case!

The people of Athens can have all their thinkers and wine drinkers and whatever other gay crap they want. Here in Sparta we eat human flesh....including our own. And if you choose to be a runner rather than a warrior....may god have mercy on your soul.

claphamsa · 04-20-2009, 02:20 PM

Which god?

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

Which god?

Hades or Ares depending on the situation.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:28 PM

Lets turn the discussion to the marathon runner. I wasn't under the impression it worked as PB and BK seem to think it works.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:29 PM

I'm probably wrong re-reading it. For some reason I thought the runner choose to flee cities. However reading it again it appears that it happens automatically. I assume when they are voted out.

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I'm probably wrong re-reading it. For some reason I thought the runner choose to flee cities. However reading it again it appears that it happens automatically. I assume when they are voted out.

That's probably some poor wording on my part. The Marathon Runner has the choice of going to the other city or to Hades. If they don't make a choice, they'll go to Hades.

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That's probably some poor wording on my part. The Marathon Runner has the choice of going to the other city or to Hades. If they don't make a choice, they'll go to Hades.

Er, if they don't make a choice, they'll go to the other city. My bad.

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Hades or Ares depending on the situation.

Also, the correct answer here was Passacaglia.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 02:39 PM

Oh, I'm stupid. My bad.

Yeah, I understand it that I'll flee when you guys vote me out in another fifteen minutes or so.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 02:40 PM

dubb, thanks for being honest and not making me the only dummy in the room.

Poli · 04-20-2009, 02:41 PM

Unvote Jackal
Vote PB

Sorry bud.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

dubb, thanks for being honest and not making me the only dummy in the room.

No problem. I posted earlier that I would be gone at deadline fully expecting it to come at 1 est. I was confused to find out when I got back that I'm a complete freakin idiot apparently and had totally forgotten how to tell time.

jeheinz72 · 04-20-2009, 02:43 PM

But do we really think that PB is the BAD runner here? I mean we send him over there, won't they just lynch him up?

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

But do we really think that PB is the BAD runner here? I mean we send him over there, won't they just lynch him up?

Yes I think he is the bad runner. Yes they will lynch him up. And yes we will most likely lynch the other marathon runner when he comes over here.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 02:45 PM

Guys, it's fine, part of why I revealed is to help the village. IF you find the other marathon runner via seer, he's obviously a wolf. Good luck.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Guys, it's fine, part of why I revealed is to help the village. IF you find the other marathon runner via seer, he's obviously a wolf. Good luck.

Find him via seer?

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 02:46 PM

It doesn't matter that I'm the good one, it makes sense to vote out any marathon runner. I had fought the urge to reveal from when BK brought up the idea. It makes it one less way you have to look.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:47 PM

PB you think we have two marathon runners here? And you think Athens has both the evil seer and the evil marathon runner?

jeheinz72 · 04-20-2009, 02:47 PM

I'm just worried about some sort of criminal-leading-the-blind. I mean maybe with dubb going down you two hatched a plan to get him some cred by being so dogged in your persuit. Now you're basically asking to be lynched.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Find him via seer?

Yes, you have a historian who can see people. If it comes back marathon runner, you should probably lynch that person.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

PB you think we have two marathon runners here? And you think Athens has both the evil seer and the evil marathon runner?

Ahhh, maybe I misread which means I made a major miscalculation. I thought each city had two which is why revealing should have still helped the village.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 02:49 PM

The way I had read it, probably incorrectly:

Each village has 2 runners, 1 is a wolf, 1 is a good guy.

Maybe it is only two total.

DaddyTorgo · 04-20-2009, 02:50 PM

fuck - i forgot the game had started

got a PM from Pass like "hey warning"

DaddyTorgo · 04-20-2009, 02:50 PM

because of patriots day i basically forgot today was monday - what's the vote count and the vote for ephor?

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Ahhh, maybe I misread which means I made a major miscalculation. I thought each city had two which is why revealing should have still helped the village.

Yes, yes you did. Not all fake reveals can be perfect.

You may actually be the marathon runner, and probably are. But you are by no means a villager.

Good try attempting to sidetrack us into a villager after you are gone though.

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

fuck - i forgot the game had started

got a PM from Pass like "hey warning"

Vote for PB and then pick someone for the other. There is no count on the second one.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 02:52 PM

Not all real reveals can be perfect either dubb. I'm glad your proud of yourself but you couldn't be more wrong, which is frightening given your one track mind.

DaddyTorgo · 04-20-2009, 02:52 PM

well this seems to be the agreed-upon play

VOTE PB

dubb93 · 04-20-2009, 02:52 PM

PB is the lynch DT, might as well hop on the bandwagon.

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 02:53 PM

dubb, you'll be the recipient of all my day one votes from now on because you have played a very, very dangerous villager game IMHO. If you're a wolf, well played. If you're a villager, horrible miscalculation.

04-20-2009, 01:03 PM	#202
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Ill answer that... why the hell would you fake reveal as the marathon runner? its already been suggested that that is a great lynch target.... so who cares if you say you are good. its not like you would say you are the bad one.... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-20-2009, 01:19 PM	#209
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	right... so unless the wolves intentionally send their own people there, well know one turn later on everyone who shows up if they are a wolf or not... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-20-2009, 02:11 PM	#219
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	That dubb cant tell time? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-20-2009, 02:20 PM	#222
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Which god? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-20-2009, 02:41 PM	#231
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Unvote Jackal Vote PB Sorry bud. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

04-20-2009, 01:04 PM	#203
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Anyone that has played with me knows that I'm not prone to spinning things, I tend to lay low rather be in the thick of things, particularly as a wolf. That being said, pick what you will but my reveal narrows down your options by another person which means you have an even better shot at a wolf. Let's ASSUME for a minute you buy that DT is most likely good, you believe that I am good, and you (whoever you may be) are a good person, that means with 10 of us in this room, you are down to 7 options. At least 2 of those 7 are wolves, meaning you have a nearly 30% of lynching one. Yeah, it takes a lot of faith/trust/whatever, but it's not a bad play at all. And yeah, AS I pointed out, taking me out is a 50-50 wolf play (except it's really 0% because my PM says I'm the good one).

04-20-2009, 01:08 PM	#204
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm still not sure what I'm doing. I went back to figure out why BK was on Poli and then remembered that two of you have declared war already, and I don't really think that's a good idea. Obviously the damage has been done since you can't unvote it, but it could be a wolf play to get war votes in early to try and win a city without even getting all the villagers out. So I'm leaning towards sticking with my vote, but I understand why people would be tempted to vote PB.

04-20-2009, 01:11 PM	#205
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I'm off to teach, so I may not be back in time but if I'm not, good luck village.

04-20-2009, 01:19 PM	#208
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	just a reminder, get your PM votes for the Ephor in before 3EST.

04-20-2009, 02:01 PM	#214
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Well, deadline and nobody here to discuss. Good luck village...off to Athens.

04-20-2009, 02:05 PM	#216
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Unvote Poli Vote PB I never thought we'd find the marathon runner through revelation, but I maintain my 50/50 analysis. And when they send us their marathon runner, we should kill them too.

04-20-2009, 02:28 PM	#224
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Lets turn the discussion to the marathon runner. I wasn't under the impression it worked as PB and BK seem to think it works.

04-20-2009, 02:29 PM	#225
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	I'm probably wrong re-reading it. For some reason I thought the runner choose to flee cities. However reading it again it appears that it happens automatically. I assume when they are voted out.

04-20-2009, 02:39 PM	#229
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Oh, I'm stupid. My bad. Yeah, I understand it that I'll flee when you guys vote me out in another fifteen minutes or so.

04-20-2009, 02:40 PM	#230
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	dubb, thanks for being honest and not making me the only dummy in the room.

04-20-2009, 02:45 PM	#235
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Guys, it's fine, part of why I revealed is to help the village. IF you find the other marathon runner via seer, he's obviously a wolf. Good luck.

04-20-2009, 02:46 PM	#237
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	It doesn't matter that I'm the good one, it makes sense to vote out any marathon runner. I had fought the urge to reveal from when BK brought up the idea. It makes it one less way you have to look.

04-20-2009, 02:47 PM	#238
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	PB you think we have two marathon runners here? And you think Athens has both the evil seer and the evil marathon runner?

04-20-2009, 02:49 PM	#242
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	The way I had read it, probably incorrectly: Each village has 2 runners, 1 is a wolf, 1 is a good guy. Maybe it is only two total.

04-20-2009, 02:50 PM	#243
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	fuck - i forgot the game had started got a PM from Pass like "hey warning" __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

04-20-2009, 02:50 PM	#244
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	because of patriots day i basically forgot today was monday - what's the vote count and the vote for ephor?

04-20-2009, 02:52 PM	#247
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Not all real reveals can be perfect either dubb. I'm glad your proud of yourself but you couldn't be more wrong, which is frightening given your one track mind.

04-20-2009, 02:52 PM	#248
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	well this seems to be the agreed-upon play VOTE PB

04-20-2009, 02:52 PM	#249
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	PB is the lynch DT, might as well hop on the bandwagon.

04-20-2009, 02:53 PM	#250
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	dubb, you'll be the recipient of all my day one votes from now on because you have played a very, very dangerous villager game IMHO. If you're a wolf, well played. If you're a villager, horrible miscalculation.

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