NFL Week 10 discussion - Page 5

Karlifornia · 11-15-2009, 10:34 PM

LOL....

henry296 · 11-15-2009, 10:34 PM

They can't even challenge because they have no timeouts.

DaddyTorgo · 11-15-2009, 10:35 PM

gonna be pissed if we lose this because of maroney's goal-line fumble

Galaxy · 11-15-2009, 10:35 PM

That has to be one of the gustiest calls I've seen in football.

DaddyTorgo · 11-15-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

They can't even challenge because they have no timeouts.

they have 1 i think

Racer · 11-15-2009, 10:36 PM

Pats can't challenge the spot. They are out of timeouts.

Edit: Guess someone beat me to it by two minutes.

mauchow · 11-15-2009, 10:36 PM

unreal that they went for it.

henry296 · 11-15-2009, 10:36 PM

DT - I think they took the last one before 4th down... I don't see a mark on the screen.

jeff061 · 11-15-2009, 10:36 PM

Belichick gives the finger to his defense then loses the game.

DaddyTorgo · 11-15-2009, 10:36 PM

or not

DaddyTorgo · 11-15-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

Belichick gives the finger to his defense then loses the game.

defense is just gassed...better to let payton have a shot at winning and then get the ball back for a FG attempt maybe

DaddyTorgo · 11-15-2009, 10:37 PM

poor pats

outplayed them for 57 minutes

Galaxy · 11-15-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

poor pats

outplayed them for 57 minutes

Eaglesfan27 · 11-15-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

Belichick gives the finger to his defense then loses the game.

Yep, way to instill confidence in the defense.

jeff061 · 11-15-2009, 10:38 PM

Awful call on 4th. Horrible.

They should have just sat down and given them the TD.

Galaxy · 11-15-2009, 10:39 PM

Karlifornia · 11-15-2009, 10:39 PM

unbelieveable...this is absolutely heartbreaking for my fantasy team

Eaglesfan27 · 11-15-2009, 10:39 PM

Tonight was a great game to watch as a neutral fan.

jeff061 · 11-15-2009, 10:40 PM

Now I'm annoyed they didn't just let them score on the 1st play.

If you don't think the defense can stop them from driving 80 yards. Why bother trying on 35.

I still can't believe he made that call. Blows my mind.

Neuqua · 11-15-2009, 10:40 PM

Peyton's an f'ing killer.

jeff061 · 11-15-2009, 10:41 PM

Maybe so. The victim gave the killer a loaded gun and followed it up by sucking on the barrel.

jeff061 · 11-15-2009, 10:43 PM

Third and 2, you have 2 downs and your in the lead. Two fucking passes? Really?

Galaxy · 11-15-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

Third and 2, you have 2 downs and your in the lead. Two fucking passes? Really?

I thought Dick Jauron was coaching the Pats.

jbergey22 · 11-15-2009, 10:44 PM

What the hell is Bellichek doing? Ive never seen anything so stupid.

bhlloy · 11-15-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

defense is just gassed...better to let payton have a shot at winning and then get the ball back for a FG attempt maybe

IF this is your logic you cannot tackle Addai on the one yard line when Indy still has a timeout and enough time to run 3-4 plays easily. Terrible, terrible decision. Really unprecedented to not trust your defense enough to stop a team from going 60+ yards in 2 minutes with only 1 time out. Only time will tell but that kind of decision can really lose the locker room.

EagleFan · 11-15-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

That has to be one of the stupidest calls I've seen in football.

fixed it for ya.

jbergey22 · 11-15-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

Awful call on 4th. Horrible.

They should have just sat down and given them the TD.

Exactly if you dont have enough confidence in your defense to stop them from going 60-80 yards with 1 timeout left why the hell not just let them score and go for the game winning FG. Something about that whole thing didnt make sense.

Arles · 11-15-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I thought Dick Jauron was coaching the Pats.

Be fair, it was more like Mike Tice

As an aside, Reggie Wayne's late TD is giving me a chance in fantasy (need 12 combined points from Mason and the Balt D).

EagleFan · 11-15-2009, 10:47 PM

I LOVE it, Bellichek's arrogance cost him the game!!!!

Big Fo · 11-15-2009, 10:48 PM

Good game, awesome ending. Belichick's face on the sideline after the failed fourth down play had me laughing pretty good.

Galaxy · 11-15-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

What the hell is Bellichek doing? Ive never seen anything so stupid.

Maybe that's because you knew it was being filmed.

jeff061 · 11-15-2009, 10:49 PM

His face should have been in the dirt after Wilfork put him in it.

jeff061 · 11-15-2009, 10:50 PM

You have any idea how much it pains me to listen to Dungy speak the truth about something, like anything, at all?

MizzouRah · 11-15-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

I LOVE it, Bellichek's arrogance cost him the game!!!!

Me too!

DaddyTorgo · 11-15-2009, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Exactly if you dont have enough confidence in your defense to stop them from going 60-80 yards with 1 timeout left why the hell not just let them score and go for the game winning FG. Something about that whole thing didnt make sense.

yeah - that didn't make any sense to me either.

wtf

Galaxy · 11-15-2009, 10:53 PM

Post-game conference on ESPN2.

Radii · 11-15-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Tonight was a great game to watch as a neutral fan.

+1, that was awesome

Kodos · 11-15-2009, 10:56 PM

Awesome finish. How sweet is it that Belicheck basically gave the game away. GREAT GAME. Go Colts!

larrymcg421 · 11-15-2009, 10:57 PM

Peyton did that to the Fins earlier this year, so I'm glad he was nice enough to return the favor and do the same to the Patriots.

jeff061 · 11-15-2009, 11:01 PM

I mean Manning only really tore them up on two drives before that last one. I just can't wrap my mind around Belichick's sudden insanity. I'm usualy ok with his shitty press conferences, but that fucker should explain himself this time. I'm expecting the "Look, we are just trying to win the game" with a look of disgust on his face.

Kodos · 11-15-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

gonna be pissed if we lose this because of maroney's goal-line fumble

Welp, I think you have a different scapegoat now.

cartman · 11-15-2009, 11:03 PM

Belichick must have been watching game film from the 90s when Switzer made the exact same boneheaded call on 4th down against the Eagles.

Abe Sargent · 11-15-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Welp, I think you have a different scapegoat now.

Heh

Antmeister · 11-15-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

I LOVE it, Bellichek's arrogance cost him the game!!!!

Wow....now if anyone tries this is Madden, I won't say it's unrealistic. Watching Rodney Harrison in the post game say it was the worst call they had seen was great. You could see it hurt him to say it.

jeff061 · 11-15-2009, 11:08 PM

Fucking Belichick said it was a bad spot? Someone just put that guy out of his misery.

I'm not overreacting damn it.

Wolfpack · 11-15-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

I mean Manning only really tore them up on two drives before that last one. I just can't wrap my mind around Belichick's sudden insanity. I'm usualy ok with his shitty press conferences, but that fucker should explain himself this time. I'm expecting the "Look, we are just trying to win the game" with a look of disgust on his face.

A variant of "You play to win the game!" ? (Yes, I've compared Belichick to Herm Edwards....)

To be fair, if they had converted, everyone would still think it insane, but an insanity usually ascribed to geniuses. And yes, he gave a colossal no-vote of confidence for his defense against Peyton Manning. Should come in quite handy at playoff time should the teams meet again.

Racer · 11-15-2009, 11:30 PM

Interesting article regarding Belichick's decision to go for it.

hxxp://www.advancednflstats.com/2009/11/belichicks-4th-down-decision-vs-colts.html

Groundhog · 11-15-2009, 11:37 PM

Even before reading that, I didn't think it was a particularly stupid decision. Like it says, you make those 2 yards and you win the game. It's easier to gain 2 yards than it is to stop a Peyton Manning 2-minute drill IMO.

If it works, you're a genius, if it doesn't, you're crucified.

Big Fo · 11-15-2009, 11:38 PM

That was interesting. I wouldn't have guessed the likelihood for getting a TD from your own 30 with two minutes left would be over 50%.

Groundhog · 11-15-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

That was interesting. I wouldn't have guessed the likelihood for getting a TD from your own 30 with two minutes left would be over 50%.

I always find it surprising how efficently some teams run a 2-minute drill, especially just before the half. You see them sputter on offense all half, and then suddenly a no-huddle, all-pass 2-minute drill has them putting points on the board.

11-15-2009, 10:34 PM	#201
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	LOL.... __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

11-15-2009, 10:34 PM	#202
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	They can't even challenge because they have no timeouts. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

11-15-2009, 10:35 PM	#203
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11-15-2009, 10:36 PM	#206
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Pats can't challenge the spot. They are out of timeouts. Edit: Guess someone beat me to it by two minutes. Last edited by Racer : 11-15-2009 at 10:36 PM.

11-15-2009, 10:36 PM	#208
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	DT - I think they took the last one before 4th down... I don't see a mark on the screen. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

11-15-2009, 10:35 PM	#204
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	That has to be one of the gustiest calls I've seen in football.

11-15-2009, 10:36 PM	#207
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	unreal that they went for it.

11-15-2009, 10:36 PM	#209
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Belichick gives the finger to his defense then loses the game. __________________

11-15-2009, 10:36 PM	#210
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	or not __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

11-15-2009, 10:37 PM	#212
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	poor pats outplayed them for 57 minutes __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9 Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 11-15-2009 at 10:38 PM.

11-15-2009, 10:38 PM	#215
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Awful call on 4th. Horrible. They should have just sat down and given them the TD. __________________

11-15-2009, 10:39 PM	#216
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	TD!

11-15-2009, 10:39 PM	#217
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	unbelieveable...this is absolutely heartbreaking for my fantasy team __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

11-15-2009, 10:39 PM	#218
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11-15-2009, 10:40 PM	#219
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Now I'm annoyed they didn't just let them score on the 1st play. If you don't think the defense can stop them from driving 80 yards. Why bother trying on 35. I still can't believe he made that call. Blows my mind. __________________

11-15-2009, 10:40 PM	#220
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11-15-2009, 10:41 PM	#221
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Maybe so. The victim gave the killer a loaded gun and followed it up by sucking on the barrel. __________________

11-15-2009, 10:43 PM	#222
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Third and 2, you have 2 downs and your in the lead. Two fucking passes? Really? __________________

11-15-2009, 10:44 PM	#224
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	What the hell is Bellichek doing? Ive never seen anything so stupid.

11-15-2009, 10:47 PM	#229
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I LOVE it, Bellichek's arrogance cost him the game!!!!

11-15-2009, 10:48 PM	#230
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Good game, awesome ending. Belichick's face on the sideline after the failed fourth down play had me laughing pretty good.

11-15-2009, 10:49 PM	#232
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	His face should have been in the dirt after Wilfork put him in it. __________________

11-15-2009, 10:50 PM	#233
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	You have any idea how much it pains me to listen to Dungy speak the truth about something, like anything, at all? __________________

11-15-2009, 10:53 PM	#236
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Post-game conference on ESPN2.

11-15-2009, 10:56 PM	#238
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Awesome finish. How sweet is it that Belicheck basically gave the game away. GREAT GAME. Go Colts! __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-15-2009, 10:57 PM	#239
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11-15-2009, 11:01 PM	#240
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I mean Manning only really tore them up on two drives before that last one. I just can't wrap my mind around Belichick's sudden insanity. I'm usualy ok with his shitty press conferences, but that fucker should explain himself this time. I'm expecting the "Look, we are just trying to win the game" with a look of disgust on his face. __________________

11-15-2009, 11:03 PM	#242
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11-15-2009, 11:08 PM	#245
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Fucking Belichick said it was a bad spot? Someone just put that guy out of his misery. I'm not overreacting damn it. __________________

11-15-2009, 11:30 PM	#247
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Interesting article regarding Belichick's decision to go for it. hxxp://www.advancednflstats.com/2009/11/belichicks-4th-down-decision-vs-colts.html

11-15-2009, 11:37 PM	#248
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Even before reading that, I didn't think it was a particularly stupid decision. Like it says, you make those 2 yards and you win the game. It's easier to gain 2 yards than it is to stop a Peyton Manning 2-minute drill IMO. If it works, you're a genius, if it doesn't, you're crucified. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

11-15-2009, 11:38 PM	#249
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	That was interesting. I wouldn't have guessed the likelihood for getting a TD from your own 30 with two minutes left would be over 50%.

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